
No one seems to know when it actually happened, but at some point, Sony removed the big '8K' resolution logo from the PS5's packaging. If you bought a PS5 within a year or two of its launch in 2020, you'll have probably noticed that the box proudly displayed an 8K stamp right alongside the 4K and HDR logos that are still present today.
And of course, now that people have caught on to the 8K claim's disappearance, there's been a bit of an uproar on Reddit and social media (as reported by PSLS). Some are going as far to say that Sony is guilty of false advertising here, since the current-gen console has never properly utilised its 8K functionality.
Indeed, to our knowledge, there's only one PS5 game that supports anything close to 8K resolution, and that's The Touryst; the quirky indie title boasts 8K supersampling.
Anyway, now that the PS5's box no longer touts 8K as a feature, it's assumed that Sony's given up on the dream. What's more, some are suggesting that a potential 8K boost is being saved for the PS5 Pro, which is strongly, strongly rumoured to be launching later this year.
But what did Sony actually say about the PS5's 8K support in the first place? Well, 8K functionality was originally confirmed back in 2019, before the system released. Wired's PS5 blowout article — which included all kinds of technical specs — simply mentioned that the console was capable of pushing 8K.
Still, there's no getting around the fact that 8K was advertised as PS5 feature, it's never really materialised, and now it's gone missing from the console's packaging. Officially, this is what Sony had to say about 8K on the PS5's pre-launch FAQ page: "PS5 is compatible with 8K displays at launch, and after a future system software update will be able to output resolutions up to 8K when content is available, with supported software."
What do you make of this kerfuffle? Has Sony been a bit disingenuous here? Did you ever expect 8K to actually be used for PS5 games? Give us your take in the comments section below.
[source playstationlifestyle.net]
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I bet those two people in existence with 8K televisions are very disappointed.
People will nitpick anything to do with Sony these days.
8K wasn't a feature, it was just the MSRP price tag for scalpers.
Being upset about this is the perfect characterisation of moaning for the sake of moaning.
I’m sure PS5 is compatible with 8k. It’s just that the games aren’t.
Sweet spot is 1440p ......
Well it was false advertising. The funny thing is that there is one game that is 8k on PS5(The Touryst), but the update is never coming for it on Sony's end. Personally im not mad as I don't have an 8k tv to begin with nor do I want one due to the lack of 8k content right now. Not much is moving on that end in the near future also.
1080p is still the most used resolution to this day in most TVs even on PC. 1440p should be the norm by now and should have replaced 1080p but it hasn't. Heck even 2k should be but no they've been pushing for 4k for years and yet now people complain that 4k60fps isnt norm.
We don't even have 8k content unless you go to cinema
Getting ready for the pro.
I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say false advertising.
I doubt there any many people (if any) that bought one just because it said 8K on the box
The vast majority of people (myself included) will have bought one simply because it was the new Playstation on the Market and it was a hot item
Well, they can simply offer all of the 8K tv owners who bought their PS5 specifically for its 8K compatability a refund 👍👀
Misleading at best, false advertisement at worst. It’s not just simply about 8k and the lack thereof. Putting things like 8k and 120fps on the box made a lot of people believe 4k@60 was essentially a guaranteed benchmark for this gen.
It so they can put it on the PS5 Pro packaging and make it look more advanced and yummy than the standard PS5.
4k 8k 60fps, couldn't care less, its about great games. Something devs & gamers alike seem to have forgotten about.
I think that Sony overestimated way too much the market. I believe that even if it weren’t for the pandemic and the actual worldwide economic quagmire, the 8K boom would still have never come. I mean, even 10 years after I first saw 4K TVs on the market, I still don’t see too many adopters around. Heck, I still use a 1080p TV for my PS5/Switch combo, as I don’t have enough space for a decently-sized 4K one.
I think PS5 is capable on paper to output 8K, but not for games (at least not for huge AAA blockbusters) so it is kinda futureproof on that part.
I don’t think Sony is lying, like why would they keep advertising a feature that it is still years away from becoming something closer to mainstream?
8K or not, this gen is definitely the weakest in terms of great games lineup. It’s almost as bad as the Wii U days really
It does say it on my box. Not that 8K’s particularly feasible these days but I do think this does constitute to false advertising at worst. You can’t advertise a feature for an expensive console like this and then never deliver.
Can Sony mandate exactly what a developer's game has for resolution and FPS output? Blaming Sony for the software not using all available resources is like blaming Maybach for my chauffeur never driving the car past 220kmph even though the speedometer says it can.
@somnambulance You are either working in marketing or are a lawyer, right?
When I watch true 4K movies and games
There really isn’t the need for anything more resolution wise.
It’s just TV manufactures etc and the industry trying to sell the next big thing.
Let’s all remember hardly any games this generation run true native REAL 4K.
it’s all upscale this, tricky technique that, false and fake 4K.
Play last us 2 remastered on PS5 fidelity mode that is true native 4K. That does look special and has great detail fidelity.
Most new games don’t this high fidelity and true native 4K.
Again the downside only gets to around 30fps.
My point is this generation isn’t all that powerful
most 4K is upscaled, from around 1440p or 1800p. It’s almost a fraud generation backed by hype and tricks.
I dont care about 8k or 4k - i just want every game to acheive 1440 @ 60 to 90 fps like some developers have managed to!
I mentioned this ages ago as I found it pretty hilarious. I don't know why it was ever put there because it's a lie.
Even The Tourist won’t output to 8K because the PS5 was never updated to pass it through correctly via HDMI 2.1.
So, no, it wouldn’t even matter if more devs did 8K capable games.
This is so stupid. Just like the PS5 Pro if it gets announced. Why would anyone buy into this crap when they havent even put out one game that even pushes the boundaries of the base console?
Bah, as long as the framerate is good I don't really care about how the game looks.
In no way is this false advertising. It’s CAPABLE of 8k output. Just because there’s no content doesn’t mean the capability vanished.
BUT MUH INTERNET OUTRAGE!
What are people on about? Of course it can output at 8k, so can the ps4, it would just run like a slideshow if it wasn’t a very specific type of game. No false advertising going on.
Is there a 8K setting in the video settings?
If there is, it probably only appears for those with an 8k display.
While there is next to none 8k content, stating it's capable does speak to the systems power.
As in "8k, wow! It will handle 4k 60fps no problem then!"
@thefourfoldroot1
Was there small print that said "8k, but only if you want to browse your photo collection"?
Playing devil's advocate here, there could be a class action lawsuit incoming.
Sony misleading people?
Is not the first time, neither the last.
But people will still defend Sony regardless as we clearly see on these comments.
Just a reminder that Sony never promised 8K for games and all the time they talked about the feature it was to promote 8K media playback, which PS5 is capable to handle and so is basically any gpu released after 2018.
The main problem here is that native 8K never took off and the industry found cheaper to use AI upscale on TVs, which renders the feature kinda useless not only on PS5 but on everything that had the 8K seal of approval, which include many Denon, Onkyo, Marantz and other receivers/media players.
@KoopaTheGamer:
So is it ok for Sony to mislead people just because the circumstances doesn't affect you?
I wonder if that's how you would think of any other company misleading the consumers affecting you directly....right, you would be up in arms about it.
@AdamNovice And people would use this opportunity to defend Sony's misleading practices.
Didn't Sony show gt7 running in 8k at some swanky convention in Japan on a ps5? I'm pretty sure they did. I don't own an 8k TV so I'm not bothered at all about this and to be honest I'm not even sure why this is a thing. Jesus can't anybody just be happy with what they have any more? Not happy with your ps5 sell the damn thing and move on to your next bug bear.
If it was on the box and then removed without any explanation from Sony, yes. It's false advertising.
More entitled pri*ks complaining. Most likely complaining about a feature they will never use.
Pretty sure the tourist runs at 8k so if that's accurate it's not false advertising
PSVR2 has 2x 4K displays so thats 8K XD. Chill guys 😀
@AdamNovice But they were the ones that put 8K on the box, we didn't make them put it there why are you mad at us? Is it a big deal? No! But is still misleadings at best.
@CielloArc I don’t recall the specifics but I agree with you that 8k was always meant as movie and tv media playback, not games. I feel like Sony went through something similar with PS3 when they were promoting 1080P video playback but a lot of the early games ran at 720p and were upscaled.
Either way I feel like there aren’t enough 8k TVs out there to worry about it. Maybe by PS7 or 8.
Storm in a teacup. I raised an eyebrow at the 8K claim in the corner of the box, but then I loaded up the Demons Souls remake and forgot my own name
@Member_the_game It was advertising a feature it doesn't have. Literally false advertising.
@rusty82
"More entitled pri*ks complaining"
Are the others mugs that are okay with misleading information.
Where do you draw the line?
If it was said the PS5 could make breakfast and keep the wife happy, would that be okay because most people "wouldn't use that feature" or didn't take it seriously?
False advertising rules are there for good reason otherwise you wouldn't be able to trust buying anything.
@dskatter Ok, connect it to an 8k tv and set the output to 4320p... Oh, what's that? You can't? The system isn't capable of outputting an 8k signal, 3.5 years after they started selling it with 8k advertised on the box? Well I'm sure this must be a mistake and we should all rush to defend the company for lying.
@TrickyDicky99 Wat? It could if they bothered to enable it. It has an HDMI 2.1 connection. That can do 8k60. Hell, that's how it does 4k120.
@Arkz My point was more addressing the fact that almost nobody would have bought it just because it said 8K on the box.
I, and I'm sure millions of others would have been buying one regardless so it wasn't really a selling point
If you want to talk about false advertising let's go right back to Sega with their Blast processing (that didn't exist)
@pumpkin_head Not wanting to be lied to when buying a product it moaning for the sake of moaning?
@GeeForce
Can it do 8k? Yes. Then no action possible. Can people say it was reasonable to assume the 8K was for that generation of games? Possibly. But good luck with that argument.
@Member_the_game No one using it is irrelevant. They were advertising a feature that it doesn't have. My car said its top speed in 150mph. I'm never gonna do that, but I'm pretty sure if it turned out it can only do 75 max and the 150 was a lie, there would be trouble. Legal trouble.
Also blast processing was actually real. But no game used it. All it did was increase colour depth. Kinda like 8bit + frc to achieve fake 10bit colour.
@thefourfoldroot1 It can't do 8k though. 3.5 years later and they've never released an update to enable it. Max you can set it to is 4k120. The 8k on the box is simply a lie.
@Arkz
Even if they technically never opened it up, they could easily argue they would have done as soon as there was a game capable. And they aren’t responsible for setting third party software limits.
8k is the new 3d glasses fad. Well, maybe someday we will have 10k+, but 8k is a frivolous upgrade.
@thefourfoldroot1 But the point is they didn't. The box said it. It doesn't do it. They could have enabled it for media at least. Or simply so the GPU does the scaling instead of the TV scaling the 4k input to its 8k screen.
But they didn't. They advertised something it doesn't do.
There's even a game that internally renders in 8k, but it's then supersampled down to 4k by the GPU since no 8k output is supported.
i'm guessing they thought 8k media and tv would be more available by 2025/2026 it might still be a few years off. idk why people are making a big deal about this when they don't even own a tv that plays 8k content in the first place.
@TrickyDicky99 @TrickyDicky99
/shrug/If you read my original post correctly, I said nothing about 8k, I was referring to any resolution or frame rate.
I don't know what the real issue is here anyway, gamer bros gonna complain about whatever they can just to keep the meme going. I guess crying about this gaming generation is now an entire personality.
@twitchtvpat
It gets better when you think there isn't 8K content yet
@twitchtvpat Owning an 8k tv is irrelevant. They advertised a feature on the box that it doesn't have. That should not be allowed.
Maybe the box should show the picture of the console with 2 controllers, even though it comes with one. They can just say you can go buy a second controller.
@Arkz comparing that to a car makes no sense, it would be like buying something for a car you don't even own. if people don't own a 8k monitor or tv they wouldn't even be able to play 8k media in the first place.
@CielloArc even better when you misunderstand and misread a comment, i never claimed there wasn't 8k content , of course there is 8k content , which is the current standard for movies atm? 4k or 8k? i said " more available" not doesn't exist.
@Arkz
I hope you understand that I'm not disagreeing with you as such.
I'm just pointing out that pretty much not a single person would have saw the box on the shelf and saw the 8k logo and thought "ooooh, I must get myself one of them because it supports 8k"
They bought it because it was a PS5 and would have been buying one regardless of what it claimed on the box
The only people who care about this are the lawyers trying to drum up a class action lawsuit so they can make millions. If anybody looked at the 8K logo and said "That's the #1 reason for buying this product" you deserve to give your head a shake.
@Arkz my point is no one is buying a ps5 for that feature , and is irrelevant , because they don't even own anything that supports that feature that clearly states would be added in a future update. its just another case of fake out rage of being upset for the sake of being upset.
@twitchtvpat But the point being the box advertised it as being capable. I can't take my car to 150, I can only go 70-80. But it should still be capable of it if that's what they advertised.
They advertised a feature it doesn't have. Doesn't matter if you intended on using it or not.
@Member_the_game People not buying it for that purpose is irrelevant. I don't own an 8k TV, and I have no intention of getting one. It's a feature I would never use, never the less they put on the box that it has it. It doesn't.
People can keep saying ohhh they could enable it. Yeah. But they haven't. In 3.5 years they haven't. For 3.5 years they've been showing it has a feature on the box that it doesn't.
It's a deception regardless of how many would make use of it.
@Medic_alert It could do the second, just only on basic looking games. Hell it could run PS2 games in 8k. And there is a game on the PS5 that runs in 8k internally.
I imagine most people seeing it on the box thought it was for media streaming apps to watch 8k videos.
Still. Sony lied.
@Arkz thats beyond the point , i mean if you don't even own a 4k tv does it matter what the ps5 can do? its not really deception when you don't have an intention on using it. like i said its fake out rage for just being upset over nothing. also it does say on the box that 8k is not out of the box and is with a future update.
@Arkz
If you don't mind me saying... for a feature you have no interest or intention of using you seem to care way too much about this.
Just let it go man, it's really not that big of a deal
@twitchtvpat Of course it's deception. Me not using the feature doesn't mean it's ok to advertise it being there when it isn't.
Can't fathom why you're all so desperate to defend some big company.
Best place to play... the touryst (great game btw)
@Member_the_game Because they're misrepresenting customers. Regulations exist for a reason. If you're gonna put it on the box then it should be able to do it. Not some time down the line maybe, or not at all.
Hell there probably are a few folks out there who saw that and thought they'd be able to view 8k content on youtube or amazon video, only to discover it can't even have the output set higher than 4k.
Being upset that a feature you can't really take advantage of anyway is no longer advertised on the packaging is really just complaining for the sake of it.
@Arkz
Interestingly, Microsoft make the same 8K claims about their Series X
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoles/xbox-series-x
Not sure what to make of that myself but it would suggest that they may both support it through an update if and when it's ready
@TrickyDicky99 For an uncompressed video stream, sure. It would only do 8k30. That's what DSC is for, which the PS5's HDMI 2.1 is capable of. It could output 8k60 no problem. They just haven't bothered to release an update enabling it.
@Member_the_game Yeah, since they both have HDMI 2.1, and their GPUs will be capable of scaling to 8k. Weird that they don't just enable it. The GPU scaler will be quicker the the TV chipset scaling a 4k image to 8k in most cases.
@thefourfoldroot1
"Can it do 8k? Yes."
Has it not been established that it can't?
(due to the firmware never being updated)
The things people will defend and accept because of brand loyalty.
@Medic_alert Phones can emulate the PS2 no problem. Emulating it on a PC is light. The PS5 is similar to a 6600XT or 6700. Either of those have more than enough power to emulate an ancient PS2 in 8k. Hell with Sony's in house emulation code it would be more efficient than other x86 PS2 emulators out there.
@GeeForce
It’s not brand loyalty. I don’t even like California Sony and their sanitised cinematic games bore the hell out of me. I just don’t think crybaby opportunists should be given any credence whatsoever. But, yes, if it was never updated in the firmware they could be susceptible to such people on a technicality, despite there never being any actual point in allowing it given there is effectively no content that can run at 8K
I always found the 8K sticker to be kinda funny, and in hindsight, I can see why people would be upset.
I see it as false advertising, no matter how widespread 8k displays are these days. Sony just didn‘t implement the software for it. The hardware should be capable of presenting an 8k image. And with 8k capabilities, games like Prince of Persia or Penny’s Big Breakaway should offer modes with more than 4k resolution.
The main question is: Would people really prefer an 8k image without HDR over a 4k image with HDR?
Because the PS5’s low HDMI bandwidth of only 32 Gbps can’t deliver 8k with HDR, according to this tool here: https://www.extron.com/product/videotools.aspx
The 8k configuration would be 8k, 60 Hz, 8 bits, 4:2:0 chroma subsampling.
Meanwhile, the Xbox Series X with its 40 Gbps could deliver 8k with HDR (= 10 bits). Maybe it’s better for Sony not to start the competion on this front.
I'm sure the PS5 could offer 8k in some games - even Natively, but I doubt it will offer any AAA new games at 8k or that ANY Devs would actively seek to make a 'native' 8k Game unless they have a low frame rate target and/or a LOT of GPU resources.
I have a bigger issue with Devs/Publishers actually lying about the resolution/frame rates of their games - Claiming 4k when its actually running at 1080p or lower and using FSR or some other upscaling method to send a '3840x2160' image to the TV. Yes it may well be sending a 4k image, but then my SkyQ sends a '4k' image for SD/HD content that's 'upscaled' before its sent to the TV thus filling a 3840x2160p screen
Same with Frame Rates - claim its 60fps, but invariably its running at 40-50FPS most of the time.
Sony may well be able to send an 8k image to a TV, but doesn't mean that 'Games' will be 8k. It could just be just 8k content via youtube for example. Being able to work with '8k' TV's could be enough - even if they don't have any 8k Content of their own.
Its like saying it has Dolby Vision support but if no Devs/Publishers add Dolby Vision to their games, its not Sony's fault. If it can do Mesh Shading for example, but no games release to utilise it, that's not the 'fault' of the hardware.
All my ps5 games play in 8k 120fps, what's everyone talking about?
@commentlife Anyone who believed 4K/60fps was going to be standard this gen are adorable. Yeah sure mid 2019 hardware is putting out 4K/60fps 🙄😂
$10 says the PS5 Pro will say 8K on the box.
@Gamer_X It's not okay for Sony to mislead people, but thankfully this won't affect most people. But at this point, knowing how some PS5 games are quite low-res, it would be misleading to have the 8K on the box, so I can understand why they removed it.
And what are you rambling about other companies? I have very little reason to defend Sony if that's what you mean. They've done plenty of stuff that I've criticized, including the whole Helldivers and PSN situation.
It’s OtherOS all over again!
😂🤣💀
@somnambulance No, it literally isn't compatible with 8K output. Nothing a game can do about it. The "8K" game people are talking about just renders at 8K internally and then downsamples to 4K for output.
@GeeForce maybe re-read my full comment hey?
@dr-gorgo Lol. I’ve done a little bit of legal stuff in my field, but I’m an operations manager.
class action lawsuit is in order.
The PS5 APU's frame buffer is probably capable of pushing 8K, but the truth is that the feature never really caught on. So why bother implementing it on the firmware?
It's a simple market thing and a curiosity at best, but nothing to see here.
Sony is really getting on the 1st place as the most misleading and greedy company in the gaming industry.. what a disgrace it became
Regarding resolutions, 4K is already simply a waste of resources in gaming, and nowadays native resolutions are kinda thing of the past. Upscaling is here to stay and continue to be improved.
Many PC players with capable HW to run games decently at 4K, are using upscaling anyway to target higher frame rates
1080p is still the most common resolution on steam followed by 1440p (considered to be the sweet spot)
1440p already looks quite decent in a display up to 55 inches.
For context a 1440p 27 inches screen has more pixel density than on a 42 inches screen at 4K..
Going from 1440p to 4K is too taxing, using those resources for other graphical settings makes the game looking way better overall
Much more important than resolutions are other graphical settings like RT effects, textures, animations, physics, AI on NPC/enemies etc..
This push for 4K in gaming is absolutely ridiculous and a way to justify high end GPUs
That being said, I don't think I need to even mention 8K, just leave that and 4K for cinema specially on gigantic screens
@pumpkin_head I’ll be honest with you, while I get your point it did gave me false hope.
I don’t have a 8k TV, but seeing 8k on my box I really thought that it confirmed that 4K wouldn’t be a problem, which is not exactly true either…
If anybody out there actually bought a PS5 simply because it said 8K on the box, I have some swampland in Florida to sell you...
Maybe you can view your photos at 8k in the media manager. PS5 is not just for gaming right?
As others have said, I think the 8k potential meant I thought we were getting guaranteed 4k.
@Nakatomi_Uk what world are you living in? TV and 1080p
Section 43(a) of the Lanham Act (using the U.S. here because it is by far the biggest customer base, although the EU and England tend to have better consumer protection laws):
To bring a claim for false advertising, the plaintiff must show:
(1) The defendant made false or misleading statements as to their own products (or another’s); [Difficult to meet the burden of proof on this one. The box says it can output in 8K, and it can. Not likely that an argument that Sony doesn't release games able to meet an 8K resolution would make this a false or misleading statement].
(2) Actual deception occurred, or at least a tendency to deceive a substantial portion of the intended audience; [More arguable that you can meet this one, as an informed consumer would know this is in reference to media playback and not games, but there is potentially an argument to be made that an uninformed consumer would believe this means games would consistently run at 8K. Still doubtful a claim gets by on this element].
(3) The deception is material in that it is likely to influence purchasing decisions; [Again, this is one of the better points of argument here. However, I think the relative unavailability of 8K tvs and their low adoption rate really works against a claim].
(4) The advertised goods travel in interstate commerce; and [Finally, a claimant easily gets this element! Still need four others though...].
(5) There was a likelihood of injury to the plaintiff. [Not likely as maybe 1% of ps5 owners own an 8K display].
Before saying "false advertising" or claiming a law has been broken and their could be a class action etc., I think its important we take time to understand and apply the law... even in a quick bare bones way. Otherwise, we are just contributing to the noise and spread of misinformation that the internet has become at large.
@IamJT
"(1) The box says it can output in 8K, and it can."
It CAN'T because it's never been enabled.
Unless you're interrpetating the law as 'it can' as in it's capable? (which it is)
How is it false advertising? The logos merely state that the PS5 is capable of outputting at 8k, HDR and whatever else. To my knowledge Sony does not state that the games and media WILL be in 8k. If people generally thought the PS5 was going to be able to output 4k at 60 or even 8k it's on them because I knew from the off of we get a native 4k game the only way it will be running at 60 or above would be for pixel based or very confined games like a walking simulator. For anyone with an avid interest in games or it being their main hobby I would hope they wouldnt be expecting a game like Horizon to be blasting along at native 8k 120 🤣
Also it's no different to TVs stating they are HDR. Cheaper television sets can in fact display it so again they are lying or falsely advertising but they generally don't get bright enough to have any impact. Internet gonna moan and another article coming from the depths of Reddit....
@GeeForce I mean that is likely how it would be interpreted yes. It is capable of 8K output and I think if 8K media had been more widely adopted between now and 2020 it would have been used.
EDIT: I think also if a class action were to be brought to certify as a member of the class you would need to prove ownership of an 8K display, so it would be a really small class.
To say it supports 8K TVs is something but I mean you could just say it's HDMI 2.1 compatible or any other detail same as they could say it's HDMI 1.4a for 3D TVs. But they push 8K instead as a factor. It depends what the packaging box says in fine print or on their website about the 8K factor then customer expectations of oh software will have it right?
I mean Okami was in 4K I think for the HD versions but scaled down. But games vary in their specs and in a way any game could be higher resolution if the game isn't heavy detailed. It just depends on how scaling works and how intense it is and so on to offer stable products.
I'd agree with the commentor below that it's likely 8K TV supported but I mean I can hook up any screen with a Component/Composite or any other connector that has it they don't brag about Component or HDMI support on the PS3 box or 360 box or Wii U or any other console with say AV then RF or otherwise do they? It would just be a footnote usually right?
Did the Dreamcast brag about VGA out even though it's the only console that ever offered the feature?
It is early so maybe later in the gen (even though early 1080p to better implementation and texture work was a thing on PS3 like GT HD Concept, Ridge Racer 7, Lair and others with fair textures and 1080p but compared to later gen 1280 or 1920 x 1080p or other resolutions I mean some like Forspoken it made sense why they went with 1400p at whatever it did and 1080p 30FPS big games that did compared to 720p 60fps or 30fps also at that yeah I'm not surprised how few big games did it or cut it back to 720p then the Indies at of course 1080p or 900p or whatever the case or well known Indies at the time) because most people don't have 8K TVs or Monitors but I mean if devs offer it then with content of movies/games will get people to buy them. Problem is yes they are too expensive still yet they push the hardware (certain technologies) quite a bit or unintentionally because they are still getting used to the hardware to adapt their engines to it.
We may see Indies offer it. But AAA unless they lower some features I don't see it happening.
8K movies like the 4K Xbox One S, it's probably likely. 8K will happen eventually but when who knows. Will we see 8K with ray tracing I doubt it but looking at GT HD Concept yesterday as GT4 engine, less fanciness of GT5/GT5 Prologue it says a lot how some games can look without a lot of visual extras added on. That being also 1080p then 1080i of the 576i doubled.
So 8K with less extra would be interesting to see but I doubt it with how much devs won't likely do that and how much motion blur or other features get added where for effect or performance or artistic, some benefit some make the game sluggish and that was a playable PS3 tech demo so like it counts much but it does make a point they could do that with games offer less visual features and meet 8K these big games.
I questioned it for GT Sport's offline patch or so and the PSVR branding. I can understand why it wasn't that hard as arcade mode is offline but still. Liveries are gone (don't think advertised feature but I can't remember), no offline for that, it could be but they gutted the whole thing not just the uploading the whole menu. It doesn't mention it on my PSVR copy but then again the online description on many games have their limited time or whatever details probably listed and those aren't false advertising even if in fine print then the 'online mode detail here' in the advertising portion of a box art's back or the rating with the 'online details change' at least in my region descriptors.
We had PS3/360 1080p games, not matter the 1280 x 1080 or 1920 x 1080 or otherwise. So why advertise if no one is willing to achieve it.
hmmm. to play devil's advocate... when sony marketed 8K, i think they meant it in the context that ps5 is compatible with 8K tv's... as in, you can connect a ps5 to the 8K TV and it will work (the TV itself will do the upscaling). sony never promised native 8K resolutions or anything even remotely along those lines. at the time, sony likely anticpated video streaming services would feature 8K content (one day) and that PS5 would again, be compatible with such content. nowhere did sony promise native 8K gaming experiences.
some people have taken this out of context and are getting excited over nothing. was sony's marketing misleading? maybe to some extent, but sony cannot help those who are naiive and ignorant when it comes to gaming tech. i don't think we will ever get to a place where native 8K is a thing as it will just be diminishing returns at that point. it would be absolutely counterproductive and hinder game development even further. i think the AAA gaming industry will tap out at native 4K one day... maybe in 10 years time and from there, consoles/pc's will do 8K upscalaing for those who are on the cutting edge. i don't see myself ever wanting to go beyond 4K, though.
who cares about resolutions anymore when this generation still can’t even get started
@nomither6 agreed. or hit 60FPS consistently
I only expect next Gen consoles to start doing actual 4k without image reconstruction systems in place, not to mention 8k which won't be a standard until at least the next 7-8 years.
Back in 2020 Sony made a blog and it states...
"PS5 is compatible with 8K displays at launch, and after a future system software update will be able to output resolutions up to 8K when content is available, with supported software."
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/11/09/ps5-the-ultimate-faq/
However they have probably removed it to place on the PS5 Pro box.
@Max_the_German That's uncompressed. DSC would let it output 8k60 in HDR.
@Stale-Bread No one expects it to run games in 8k. But the point is it can't output in 8k. If you connect it to an 8k TV you can still only select 4k as the max res.
I blame the sheep that believe this BS more than Sony advertising this....it's just like the No Man's Sky trolls that, in their own heads, believed what was in the game, not what the devs said wasn't in the game, here we are again. IQ"s must have dropped since the similar claims were made with PS4pro. We still cannot guarantee 60fps now, resolution is the least of your worries. It's all BS to sell TV's, not games. Sony cares more about PC than their own brand.
https://www.psu.com/news/the-touryst-is-the-first-native-8k-60fps-game-on-consoles-on-ps5/
Yet as it says in the article (from 3 years ago) it doesn't actually output at 8k, bit it is running at 8k. Sounds like a planned feature but possibly only this one game could run at 8k anyway.
@Northlander Sean Murray lies countlessly in interviews leading up to release. Specific claims that we're not at all true. They even made gameplay sequences that didn't happen in the game, featuring creatures and AI behaviour that didn't exist in the game, and warring factions having space battles and so on. They claimed it would have co-op. I can agree that people hyped themselves up but Sean lied loads of times very blatantly.
The first one is more jokey, but look at this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ-tgaE37UE
I thought anything above 4k isn’t noticed by the human eye anyway? If that’s true then what’s the point in even having 8k?
Given the existence of The Touryst, it isn't false advertising to say the PS5 supports 8k - because it does for that one Switch title.
However, 8K seems to be an answer to a question no-one asked when circa 4K is all you can get out of streaming services (Netflix, Disney+, Prime, etc.) and standard broadcast is good, old 1080i/p
Forget 4K, what we need is 16K support, or maybe 32K 👻
Probably using downgraded hdmi chip they either intentionally or unintentionally can't support 8k output
At its core yes it is false advertising, they made claims to hype the console up, as many people assumed if it could possibly run 8k then 60fps at 4k woukd be a standard however we were very much given a console that can barely do 60fps at 4k
And yes the same goes for Xbox as I believe they also advertised 8k but if I remember correctly they specifically stated that was for videos maybe that was what Sony meant too but forgot to do it
Either way this generation on both consoles has been full of disappointment and lackluster promises
@Nakatomi_Uk so cinemas display 8k do they?
It's not really false advertising, they could say it's 16K, it still would be alright. Graphic resolution and video resolution are not the same thing, contrary to popular belief and because playstation uses adaptive resolution, it'll always look as though it is the resolution of the monitor/ TV.
What a stupid thing to complain about. Bunch of chancers. There is nothing stopping Sony enabling 8K output on the PS5 through a firmware update, the hardware can manage it for some content, but the simple fact is there is little to no content for it.
It’s worth bearing in mind that when the PS5 first released was around the time that 8K tvs were popping up and it was (very briefly thankfully) a bit of a buzzword and there was a chance that streaming services and the manufactures might have pushed towards it. Thankfully sense prevailed. 4K is more than fine for now at the typical distances most people view continent from on a TV.
sounds like a class action lawsuit to me. If a guy can sue over Jill Valentine not having the right underwear in Re3 remake then somebody is going to over this.
Yeah the 8K on the side of the box always made me laugh, they shouldn't have put that there in the first place, to be honest.
As a long time DF fan, I had a feeling we'd struggle to see any games running 1440p60 upscaled or upsampled to 4K, and due to lack of optimisation it's actually the case we sometimes see 720p30 or 1080p30 upscaled to 4K which is why a lot of games look soft and blurry or have artifacts. They're basically PC architecture now, developers should have way less trouble than the Cell of the PS3 with all it's SPUs to micromanage, yet it seems in some ways quality is taking a step backwards in more ways than one.
Long story short, PS5 ever doing anything in 8K is a bit of a joke, which is why it being on the box was amusing to me.
There's me wondering where the actual 4k exclusive game's are 4 year's into it's life almost....rise of the ronin, spiderman 2,demons souls . I'm more concerned that we are halfway through it's life and this is what we got ? We all know spiderman 2 will go to pc definitely probably next few months and most likely the other two eventually. Kinda makes me wonder why did I pay £500 for a system to ps4 game's. I was expecting banger and banger....wow we all got that wrong. PlayStation 5 pro? Wouldn't bother There's jack all to play on the base one .
@Dodoo 60fp 4k apparently, I googled that a few months ago lol
@SNARF ah thought so! Can’t wait for 64k at 1000 fps in 20 years looking the same then! 🤣🤣
I don’t get why people would get upset.
Most people I see talking about prefer 1080p at 60fps. So, 8K it’s not even close to be a preference.
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