Sony's Live Service Push 'No Joke', A Lot of People Working on Horizon Online

Horizon online has potential tbh. The gameplay/ combat are the only things worthwhile in these games.
Though, Sony already had gold in their hands with Factions 2, but decided to cancel that and pump money elsewhere (aka in flops), so yeah, I have absolutely zero expectations. Today's Sony will ruin it somehow

Ok that might be an unpopular opinion but I would like to play an MMORPG in Horizon's world.

Still sad about TLOU online getting canned. But the killzone team have skills and plenty of experience so could see something interesting emerge here.

I know this kind of thing has its place, but I really wish it didn’t. It just ends up encouraging developers put 90% of their efforts into online stuff that isn’t anywhere near the quality of the single player experiences they’ve made a name from (Rockstar).

The quality and scope of games tends to massively decrease once it’s got an online component attached to draw in the 12 year olds.

That why I think next year 2025 and going forward it’s going to be only one big AAA from Sony Studios per year.
2025 Ghost and I bet that’s it, maybe some dlc for another game.
Then they will really on paid third party like Death Stranding 2 etc or make up the void.

Oh believe me it's very much a joke. How many more need to flop before that's clear.

The problem isn't a multiplayer/online format. Its that the model that existed in the days of factions, socom, old halo, originally cod, (list goes on), doesn't exist anymore and that's what we want. Hell divers proves that and also proves it can be meshed with the new and work if not as mismanaged as it is by the devs and Sony.

The new model isn't to creast engaging online communities around a quality game play loop. What we have now is everyone chasing money through intentionally designed predatory addiction schemes, and even then Sony is far too late to that party. Fairgames and Concord will fail because of the over saturation and generic nature just like the many that have failed in the last 24 months.

Factions 2 would have been an obvious hit that for some reason they couldn't see how obvious a collaboration having one of these studios making the failures take point in the ongoing aspect of it. It would have had legs and promoted a tent pole IP they are milking anyways as well as create engagement to build upon.
Socom is another absolutely obvious potential hit modernized into this space, however the original talent for that ip is long gone, but I'm sure the design aspects of it could be mimicked.
Funny enough twisted metal is also another obvious potential hit in the model if done right and yet they canned that project as well
Yet Sony is so devoid of creative thinking and so poorly managed at the moment that the best they can come up with is mimicking the most oversaturated generic games already established and even doing that poorly nearly a decade too late.

A horizon true mmoarpg or survival /mmorpg could work, however I doubt they have they chops or commitment to get one of those off the ground as it would need to.

Joke, this entire situation very much is.

Horizon online definitely seems like it has potential but I feel like Monster Hunter Wilds will dampen people's enthusiasm for it.

Horizon: Concordian Legacy

But jokes aside. A co-op in Horizons rich world is not by default a terrible idea. Pedigree/history aside it's all about execution...and monetization.

It's also a two-edged sword, if this becomes a runaway success then singleplayer games from the studio might become much less of a priority.

Time will tell. 🤷‍♂️

PlayStation is not tired of horizon games🤔.they milking it with Cheerios.haha wtf.lets get some killzone.resistance sony.word up son

Game going on 7 years of development should be released next year. I still remember when everyone thought they were rebooting socom lol.

I genuinely hope it succeeds, PS needs a multiplayer win.

Great, another Part III single-player game that has been delayed for a live service. Great job, Sony. Naughty Dog wasting millions of dollars, and, more importantly, valuable time, on a live service wasn't enough, apparently.

If this is Monster Hunter-like then yeah think that be cool playing co-op taking down a Thunderjaw.

I think horizon really has a good chance to work for online gaming. This can be a lot of fun with friends! Like Helldivers 2, but with more depth...

I’d rather play Horizon 3, thanks.

Im not the biggest fan of online games but for guerilla im willing to give it a go. Im hoping for a fallout 76 type game without the god awful launch. I just dont want guerilla to go the way of other devs

I'm curious what direction it will be. The Horizon world lore is packed full of interesting story. Is it a class based mmo style? Can you choose your clan to start with? Is this a glorified monster hunter or Fallout 76 style?

Horizon has great games but this maybe an example of Sony expecting way too much from thisbip

Probably pass on this, don't really like spending all my time on one game. Not the biggest fan of horizon . Quite a lot of j-rpgs this year and next year like ghost of tsushima sequel add assassins creed shadows Id rather play over a live service game + sequel to trails through daybreak

If this focuses on quests (and continues to add content) and co-op, it could do well. But hard to say.

I’m curious to hear more about it.

If it’s monster hunter style that could be interesting. Otherwise I’m not really sure unless it’s mmo how it would work (but there’s not much variety in characters). Sonys Elder scrolls?

Obviously I’d rather the 3rd if the single player games

Nah, although incredibly well crafted and very cool for a single player game,
this world doesn’t have the appeal and world building to me of for example WoW, Final Fantasy, Monster Hunter or LotR. It’s just not a really ‘fun’ world imo to stay in for a long time. It takes itself too serious. And not enough diversity between characters, races, etc.

I do not see this succeed but am keen to learn more of what they come up with. Hope to be proven wrong, I spend tons of hours in WoW back in the day.

But have to say, it’s a shame that so much resources are still being poured into this live service stuff at Sony.

Absolutely loved both the Horizon games and their DLCs, so an online game which will obviously be PVE is very welcomed.

It would be kinda cool if it was like Monster Hunter.

There, I don't always have to be negative about these initiatives. Horizon GaaS has potential.

I'll admit the idea of an MMO set in this world is intriguing but if it means I'm not getting Horizon 3 for a long time then that honestly pi🐍🐍es me the hell off. I'm really invested in Aloy and Seyka's romance and wanna see how it pans out

@MrMagic this is my thinking as well, but with frankly monster hunter in general. Right now what differentiates horizon from MH is that it is a single player open world game. If Horizon tries to get into multiplayer it really needs something to make it feel different than just “robot Monster Hunter but the only weapon is the Bow”

I guess Sony hasn’t learnt their lesson still

This is unbelievable. Sony is pushing Horizon hard. Too hard in my opinion. Horizon is bland, and missing the elusive "it" factor in my opinion. Sure it's stunning visually, and has an intriguing idea. But something is off. And I have no interest in a live service.

Live service will immediately put a bad taste in my mouth.

I mean, yeah. This is pretty much known since 2018 as noted in the article. At some point it would become the studio's main project to finally release it.

Guerrilla itself already confirmed in 2023 that this and the next single-player Horizon were in development.

By the way, this project started before Jim Ryan got promoted to CEO and ruined every Sony studio as everyone likes to say.

@AlexPorto it gets tiring always having single player games it about time Sony make.mulitplayer games and other genres.

The idea of a co-op Horizon game has always intrigued me. However, I don't trust the chuckleheads now running PlayStation to fully realize this concept's potential. Their multiplayer instincts have been mostly garbage. If anyone will find a way to screw this up, it's modern PlayStation.

Haha absolutely not, not even if you OFFER me money to play it. Singleplayer or bust.

@NxtDoc I know what you mean about the ''it'' factor.

Sony's problem - and it has had this for a long time - is that it does not have a mascot aka a household name in which people automatically link to the brand. Nintendo has Mario and Zelda, Xbox has Master Chief, Sega has Sonic, but Sony has never quite managed it.

I think that they are trying VERY hard with Aloy but I just do not believe that they have succeeded. The closest that they ever got imo was with Crash Bandicoot back in the 90s.

@Mikey856 This is exactly what you SHOULDN'T want! If Horizon Online is succesfull they might just make the entire franchise and other Sony ip's online online/live service - which means you can't play it ever again once they remove them from their servers :/

''It’s probably worth adding some context here. To the best of our knowledge, Horizon Online has been in development since around 2018''.

That's a warning sign given how Concord took the exact same amount of time to develop. The gaming landscape has changed immeasurably since then.

I agreed with some people who said Horizon Online has potential.

I mean, there's plenty of hero shooters live service in the market and one of the biggest reason why Concord failed miserably is because it can't provide different experiences compare to the competitors.

But how many multiplayer live service games that took place after the apocalypse and offers you the experience to hunt / fight a mecha dinosaurs with your friends? So far i see none.

Horizon Online could be a different experience compare to MonHun and it also could satisfy people who asked for a co-op in a Horizon game. That way, the next main Horizon can stay as single player experience.

Honestly if it's like a PVE open world multiplayer game with quests, big new robots to take down with friends, clans etc it could be really good.

It's not for me but it sounds like something that could be good, rather than just another overwatch ripoff

@AdamNovice Yes, they should have done that in 2018. Then we could be looking forward to the release of new IP in 2025. They lean to heavily on the Horizon IP. It is almost as delusional as thinking Concord could be the new Star Wars. I like the Horizon games but this is just dull and unimaginative

Bet they are feeling superconfident now 😅 to be honest I would of played tlou and probably would of at least tried this. Live action games aren't all evil. Concorde just goes to show how important character design is.

Well, there’s the potential for too much money in games like that to abandon attempting it despite the fact most fail. Still, people need to keep buying their single player stuff like Astro Bot to show we still want things like that.

Please don’t, Sony. We don’t want Guerrilla to close or have major layoffs once yet another live service no one asked for flops…

@PloverNutter Yeah but you lost me on the only weapon is a bow.

There's a few different types of weapons in Horizon with alternate ammo types and effects. Like spears and slingshots and tripcasters and a rapid fire crossbow that sort of fires like a gun and saw blades that are like boomerangs also turrets that are like miniguns etc.

I was burnt out on Horzion after the sequel and didn't even bother with the dlc so I'm glad the single player series won't be around for a while. Needs a break to avoid oversaturation.

@AdamNovice Maybe they never did need a mascot - but they clearly want one now because there is guaranteed money to be made out of it. Why else do they keep on pushing this character?

Forgot to add:

Not just PvE but it could also have PvP like clan vs clan since in the main game not every tribe are getting along with each other.

I can imagine some cool stuff where you can hacked / ride a Thunderjaw and used it to attack other clan. And the other clan can do the same.

Now i'm curious to try it :3

As a fervent player for Elder Scrolls Online I can tell you how much I hated the idea of an online Elder Scrolls game. Now, 10 years in, it’s the only game I play every single day! Horizon has all the right parts for this game to be a success. If don’t right, of course.

I dont get why people get turned off immediately by the words live service. Not every live service is the same genre. GT7 is live service. It basically just means they're continually going to be updating the game.

Hey, the game might be bad. But everyone seems to judge even before games are announced. A game can be bad whether its singleplayer or multiplayer you know?

I for one, are very much interested to see what this could be. Stop judging games before seeing anything, its stupid. As if all singleplayer games are automatically better than multiplayer.

How am I supposed to know if I want to play it it not if I don’t even know what genre it is? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Im not interested in a hero shooter or even a co-op monster Hunter type game but I would be interested in a MMO like WoW or FF14. I could even see it working as a Nintendo Switch style farming sim, kind of an MMO lite.

Sony needs to figure out the whole pricing thing though. Live service seems to need to be free to start, not $60 or $40. Helldivers is the exception, not the norm. 🤑

I’m burned out of both the Horizon franchise and multiplayer games so it’s a default skip for me.

@AdamNovice what did they do with last of us. Cut their losses and move on instead of pouring more resources for something nobody asked for

The first game was fantastic. Forbidden west was pretty but the story was just bland. It does not also help that Aloy is always a very grumpy character (resulting in me disliking the character). After the second game I was done with Horizon as a franchise (also going from one AI as world ending event to another AI going rogue… )

I still need to play both Horizon games and i plan on doing that on the PS5Pro. They should have continued factions 2 and people would have looked at a whole different way at Sony their live service games. It's hoing to be curious to see if Horizon online will be popular. It will definitely do better than Concord. But releasing a live service game that people don't really want in a year where GTA VI, Ghost of Yotei, Monster Hunter Wilds, Death Stranding 2 will release... I don't know...

Literally my idea of hell.

I like Horizon

But I'm not interested in a live service Horizon

Horizon Online could be pretty interesting if done right.

Wasn't it recently reported that there are about 400 million reasons that speak against it?
I guess we'll foot the bill with psplus price hikes and more expensive future hardware.

@KillerBoy Its hard to follow what people want. If they should listen to what the people want. It would be more Fortnite. Cause contrary to what you might think. That is what is most being played by majority of the PS casual users.

Astro Bot is what people wanted. And although it might be doing fine. I have yet to see the 'sold over 5 million copies' posts from Sony. What we on this site want, is actually pretty niche, unfortunately

For example, i see many people judging Sony for closing Japan Studio. But the most popular games from the studio hardy sold that much. So which criteria should they follow? You can hardly blame them for not doubling down on franchises that dont sell well right? Same for Killzone, Resistance, Sly Cooper etc.

Im not saying i agree btw, i do want them to make these games. Im just saying its hard for publishers to really know what people want and what would sell well.

@Slayer25c What? PlayStation has a good variety of games. The Last of Us is a post-apocalipse drama, God of War is fantasy, Horizon is sci-fi, Demon's Souls is a hardcore souls dark fantasy game, Ghost of Tsushima is a feudal Japan open-world drama, and Ratched and Clank and Astro Bot are family-friendly. Yeah, there's no variety at all.

Horizon was the death of Sony's creativity. This franchise is unbelievably mediocre.

It’s Sony, it’ll be a joke.

@AdamNovice Agree, but Sony also thought Concord had potential. I just fear that Guerrilla might come to the same conclusion as Naughty Dog and that this title is going eat up a sizeable chunck of the studio’s resources in order to be successful

I just wish they would finalize the triology before jumping into multiplayer.

@AdamNovice I agree. You just have to breathe about a live service and people go nuts. The game can be in thought bubble stage and everyone is already denouncing it.

Answer 6: I hate MMORPG AND Horizon

@AlexPorto you have to understand that most people complain just to complain. You can ask them what kind of game they want and I guarantee that kind of game is already out there for them to play. It’s why I don’t underage gripe about live service. Yes, there are a great many that exist. But there are a ton of great single player games out there. Seems most just complain about what they don’t like instead of enjoying what they do like.

@mountain_spider lol she should smile more. Kidding…

@Zeldorf True, and I am amazed that nobody noticed that Horizon is a rip-off from Fallout, without the humor and the borderline immorality.

This could work. Just copy how monster hunter does it and it should be a serviceable game that people will want to sink time into.

@AhmadSumadi I mostly agree with you. My problem with the way Sony is approaching this is that they are taking time and work from Naught Dog and Guerrilla that they should be giving to their new single-player games and putting (ineffectively, mind you) on live-service.
Why not have their new multiplayer Studios working on the PS IPs working on live-service while they older Studios remain on single-player?

Has potential.
Can imagine something like Monster Hunter but in the Horizon universe.

As long as it plays more like Zero Dawn than Forbidden West, I'll at least keep an eye on it.

The biggest thing that worries me, though, is the longstanding evidence/rumors that this will change up the art style and lean into some sort of anime-inspired design.

Despite what flaws I think the gameplay is riddled with after Forbidden West, the art direction is NOT one of them. I think the aesthetic is still one of the best out there. And Decima as an engine can be breathtaking. So I just don't get why they'd (seemingly) abandon that for some sort of cartoon or anime-stylized look.

If that is where they land, then that would probably be the biggest thing to kill my interest. The early footage did NOT look good to me.

There was a conversation in Forbidden west with an NPC talking about clan wars which tbf I thought would work quite well in the world of horizon for a multiplayer title. There is potential in clans of humans banding together, fighting each other for resources and emergent gameplay as the robots get involved and having to band together to take out big foes.

There is potential in this. I may not play it as I don't really get on with multiplayer games, but of all of Sony's ip, I wouldn't be surprised to see this one do well

I've stayed offline since Socom 3 and Midtown Madness 3, have no plans to start now.

Nope, don't like multiplayer games. At this point I think the youtube video that explain why the game fails will be more entertaining than the game itself 😕

ps. The combat in horizon games is good, but not live service good, it's not at the level of monster hunter world combat.

@mountain_spider HFW is manageable during the first part, but once you have opened the door to enter the “forbidden west” and start the open world madness, it becomes boring and the story is more and more all over the place and totally absurd. The end is laughable, I pushed to completion of this game just to see how far it would go in the mediocrity. Never played the first one but I’m reluctant to do it.

The Lego game I’m fine with but online? Yawn! I’ll
Pass

@Mikey856 Can’t really compare 97 to 2024, though. There is only so much room for games that require almost exclusive dedication, unless it’s something completely original players won’t leave their game of choice for this. And let’s face it - current Sony is not exactly innovative.

@jrt87

The graphics and presentation were absolutely next-level, but I didn't much care for the so-so story.

Really didn't love the missions that required melee combos.

There's so much things needed to make this great and even more to make it awful, should be interesting to see which way it swings, but if it's out in 2025, it's got way to much competition, 2025 is gonna be crazy, Doom, GTA6, Ghost 2...the list goes on, hoping for FF7 PT3 but that's probs '26

Yeah, sorry but it's definitely a joke at this point, just ask Concord...oh wait, too soon?

I don't think the idea of a Monster Hunter type Horizon game is going to work as well as it sounds on paper. Mostly because I don't see the Monster Hunter fanbase jumping ship anytime soon.

How about "No, I don't play live service games "
Anyway, I mean I hope for the best? With Guerilla's luck they'll drop it adjacent to Fortnite 2.
I just don't see it popping off.

@LifeGirl I agree Sony doesn’t have a good mascot. There’s potential for Astro bot.

If agree Zelda Mario Pokémon for Nintendo. And sonic for sega potentially

Master chief for Xbox? I don’t believe the average person would make that connection in all honesty.

So I think there’s only Nintendo that have found that. And sonic but I reckon many younger gamers wouldn’t associate it with Sega.

Why I cannot choose "I don't like multiplayer" and also "I'm not fan of Horizon" ?

Ok, there will be lots of weirdos, who will try it just to see dozens thick norse redheads (I doubt there will be different playable characters) but I still don't think there is enough of them...

@jrt87 Ah yes the levitating arrogant silicon valley CEOs, that was a huge facepalm for me. What’s puzzling me is that I have never seen good comments about Horizon. The game is wide spread considered mediocre, with a universe and characters that are hated. So why Sony is pushing for a live service based on this IP? It’s mostly doomed to fail. I don’t like TLOU but at least I understand that it is a popular IP that the majority would like to experience in multiplayer. And they killed the project…

I love the horizon games, the first one was my favorite game of the ps4 gen and the sequel is my favorite this gen so far, both dlcs were great. They showed this a while ago far as a sneak peek. It had stylized type graphics, more toon than realistic. I dont know if thats since changed. Personally i dont care for multiplayer or live service for that matter so i wont be playing it. Far as the third game, i wasnt really expecting it before the very end of this gen or a launch ps6 game. Hopefully people give it a shot

Well, I don’t particularly like multiplayer games, but I do love Horizon, so I’d be willing to give this a shot, depending on what it’s like.

I'm actually interested to see how a Horizon Multi-player game would play. I assume like Monster Hunter, and if so then that would be fun.

I wouldn't be surprised if in Horizon 3 your able to play as some of Aloy's friends. Varl, Erend and especially Seyka for certain parts. I feel like her having companions in a lot of missions in Forbidden West kind of sets that up. You play as a friend of Aloy's while Aloy helps you out during the mission. Would be a fun time and change stuff up here and their.

@jrt87

LMAO @ this whole take.

You are absolutely spot on with all of it.

@Khwarezm89 An online open world, divided into pve and pvp zones, where you choose a tribe, and fight back against giant robots could be pretty good. Like Monster Hunter, but via Horizon... Depends on how it all comes together.

@B0udoir I see a lot of positive comments and discussion around Horizon. Maybe you avoid such discussions because they don’t suit the narrative you want to run with? There’s see people who cosplay Horizon. People who collect the toys. People who are excited at the possibility that there might be a live action series in the works. I know all this just from reading the internet. You likely scroll past these articles.

If it's anything like Monster Hunter where a new monster is introduced seasonally to hunt, sure. But other than that, I don't see what Horizon can do.

These 'Live Service' trainwreaks are why we're only getting old remasters from Sony.

@Khwarezm89 agree but MMOs require a LOT of work and investment, studios nowadays just want people to buy cosmetics and characters. I could see a Horizon survival MMO being amazing but it's probably going to be something generic.

Early prepro for nearly three years?

@AdamNovice Yes. As in it already does...

Likely pushing back Horizon 3 so we can get some stupid online Horizon game? Screw that. I'm a huge Horizon fan, but that's for the single player games. I have 0 interest in playing something that is the exact opposite reason why I'm a PlayStation gamer and chose the PS5 as my go-to console this gen.

Need more info, there's online games that I'd never touch like concord or the more popular apex

Then there's online games that I will look at like red dead online, fallout 76 and monster hunter

@OldGamer999 i've read several stories that 2025 they have several unannounced games , so they'll have more then 1 for next year

@KilloWertz i'd take all of this with a grain of salt since nothing was actually officially announced. but with nixxes doing the remaster , it sounds like they added more people and another team to do the multiplayer game, i wouldn't be shocked if they've been working on a new single player game since then ( assuming it will be a 3rd horizon game).

@twitchtvpat
Well shall see, but I hope so.
But I am talking Sony studios big AAA single player games.
I don’t think they will, they will want to give ghost time to sell and Death Stranding 2 and let’s not forget GTA 6 as Sony will have the advert rights etc.
Maybe some dlc for Astro Bot.

The push may be no joke but the overall results certainly will be.

I predict Horizon will end up being their only live service project (besides Helldivers) not to crash and burn.

We'll be getting full blown remakes of Zero Dawn and Forbidden West before we get part 3 at this rate. I really wish Sony Devs would speed up their game production time. I doubt we'll even see a new Naughty Dog game until the next damn generation is released. Sigh

Oh piss off. More chasing scummy live service trends which make me feel like a mark rather than a customer. Time to touch grass.

@OldGamer999 they are talking about first party sony games. not sure when they'll be announced. but they are supposed to be 2025 games.

The only live service Horizon I would play is Forza

The words 'live service' make me cringe. Done right like Astrobot where extra content is added at no cost is OK, but the model with micro transactions puts me off.
I LOVE Horizon, am a huge fan. But I'm dreading to see what sort of live service it will be. If they want micro transactions, I will not be playing it.

I don't see how it can be anything but a B-tier monster hunter clone. There's a chance they'll smash it and come up with something new and interesting, but I'm sceptical as usual. Mind you, if they do manage to make a live service game that treats the player with respect in the way Capcom does with Monster Hunter, I might actually give it a try if it's really good.

@Kenobi42 i have no issues with micro transactions if it doesn't change game play. if they want to charge for cosmetic items , and people want to buy that stuff , go for it why not. key word being as long as they sell items that have no effect on game play other then how your character looks. i think people see live service , and they don't realize how many games are actually live service games. you can look at a no mans sky which turned into a pretty amazing unintentional live service game with update after update. not to mention most fighting games mortal kombat , street fighter would be considered as live service as well. i'd say if the updates are worthwhile and they keep people interested in a game for a long time, live service games can do well.

@AdamNovice TBH I think xiv mostly thrives because it's primarily a single player story driven game with some occasional required multiplayer and then a ton of optional MMO stuff attached if you want it. The major story moments you CAN'T even do with anyone else, you have to disband parties to enter.

@Savage_Joe I think it's nonsense to say every lifeservice game is terrible from the start. I rather see what it is first. As long as it's not a F2P gacha game I'm willing to wait with my judgement before I see anything.

The universe has the potential for sure it's open ended enough for any character, any events to take place, kind of how I saw Resistance is 3 or Retribution or Burning Skies it made sense due to the scale.

But I think they are milking the IP too much. I do question Sony and their audience focus with using the IP rather then it's world just having potential for it is more my question.

Forbidden West did what it did and I get why audiences weren't into it of the weapon system or the informing too early on things or other details. I hear the same things from people around me as seeing online.

Lego Horizon to get kids interested before they are old enough for the major entries.

A Horizon Live Service. Like just way? Concord was it's own thing, but Sony and the 'we can't get enough sales for our original kids games or some other original IPs for an MMO/live service game so eh just milk this one because it can be milked enough in any of money making for other genres that are popular'. Like sigh.

My biggest problem with forbidden West was the weapon system was to loot crate like and the traps felt pointless. If they fix that and give you a sense of exploration, I’m all in.

I love Horizon and it is my favorite Sony IP but I will stick with the solo games. Id rather play LEGO than multiplayer.

It feels like Horizon is becoming like Assassins Creed.

I’d rather play a made for current Gen Killzone or new IP from these guys.
I couldn’t be bothered finishing the last two Horizon games (the VRgamw was just too simplistic & for some reason I lost interest halfway through the sequel)

So Aloy going from unsure and lovely in the first game, to arrogant disrespectful brat in the second was a way to prepare people for online behaviour? Now the awful character writing and annoying performance makes sense in HFW!

It's crazy how much Sony hates money.

If Xbox hadn’t started releasing their games on PlayStation they’d really have a few years to catch up here

To those sustaining that Sony isn't currently milking the Horizon franchise - to quote a GoW 2 line "Do you need more proof than this" ?

@J2theEzzo As a big fan of Monster Hunter. This could work well too!

@McTwist I wish they would just re release factions. Maybe a remaster and add some
New content.

Given I thought HZD was turgid and I dislike online multiplayer, hard pass for me.

Imagine it might do well if done right though.

@Boucho11
That would be so insanely cool...
But I doubt it as it's no live service, so they're just focusing on those sadly

I have bought and played to completion the first 2 Horizon games but will not be buying Horizon Online. I have no interest in multiplayer games on consoles. There's only two I play and they're on the PC. I don't wish them a lack of success with this venture, but using existing single player IPs for multiplayer projects disgusts me entirely, to be quite honest.

I'm sure if we make that game massively fail the way Concord did, Sony once and for all will give up on LIVE-SERVICE games and focus on what we all want... single player experiences.

Let's make sure Sony gets the message.

Not a fan of multiplayer overall, but I will give a chance for a Horizon one, as I really love this franchise!!

I loved horizon forbidden west. ***** I platinumed the game(my first platinum) I will need another 6 years before I want to play another Horizon. It was enough for now. I will wait for the third in the series.

It’s not that I don’t like multiplayer, but man releasing a MMO these days, you need to have a very solid game.

I don’t think Horizon is the best fit

@Savage_Joe Just saying something does not make it right. I don't know yet if it will be bad but I'll wait to see what is released first. I like Horizon had fun with the games so I'll just wait and see first.

@Major_Player Or you get a company that goes bankrupt and then you are looking at MS to let you get your fix. I'm looking at products by themselves instead and skip what I don't like.

@NEStalgia Ever played Guild Wars? I played it for 5000 hours and I have to disagree. You can have really good and fun things happen in a team based game it just has to be done right.

@Flaming_Kaiser Oh man there's a name I haven't heard in ages. I played a a little bit waaaaay back when it was new, but I couldn't get very far because the PC I had at the time just couldn't handle it.

I agree, though, I'm not a big multiplayer person, but I enjoy XIV's group dungeons, and I'm a huge Splatoon nut, so I'm not anti-multiplayer, but the problem with multiplayer is that by nature you can really only absorb one or two of them (friend coop aside), because they become a dedication of time by necessity.

@NEStalgia I loved uncovering the fog on the map for titles and just have fun with your guild in a fun way. One of the few games were i really felt like I was playing with a fun group.

@Flaming_Kaiser Back then that game was pushing some limits graphically and I was between upgrades with a weaker-end rig.....and I was on dialup! MMOs and dialup were an interesting feat

@NEStalgia Fantastic memories with that game I played for 5000 hours. 😅