
Despite doom and gloom surrounding the console market, the PS5 is still trending around 8% ahead of the PS4 launch aligned in USA, despite its higher price point and pandemic-induced stock shortages. Given the challenges of the global economy, Sony will consider this a success.
Mat Piscatella confirmed the tidbit as part of a Q&A session on the sales-centric Install Base forum, where he added that the Xbox Series X|S is now tracking 11% behind the Xbox One in USA.
To balance the discussion, it must be stressed that higher prices have impacted the PS5 in Europe, where it’s selling slower than the PS4. It means that, overall, there’s a sense the console market has stagnated – especially following the obscene highs of the pandemic period.
But it’s worth remembering that Sony is now extracting more money from each individual consumer, by offering a strong slate of subscription services and a wider spread of accessories. Devices like the PS Portal, which have exceeded expectations, are generating significant revenue for the format holder – and we’re yet to really see the impact of the PS5 Pro either.
That’s not to say everything is smooth sailing for PlayStation, though. With software becoming more ubiquitous across all platforms and devices, the manufacturer is really going to have to work hard to create a unique selling point for future hardware, like the PS6.
[source installbaseforum.com]
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And this is why I don't buy the doom and gloom around Sony that some users here try and push.
Also the Series trailing behind the Xbox One which everyone deemed a massive failure is not a good look. Buying the biggest publishers, going all out with gamepass and even making a considerably cheaper console has done nothing to boost their sales since the Xbox One, even on their own turf.
I’m not surprised because the PS5 is now very US centric. Where previous consoles have had lots of 1st party games from Japanese and European publishers, PS5’s 1st party lineup is probably 90% US made. This has concentrated on narrative action games for young adult men with certain types of interests.
But then this isn’t really panning out as a global business strategy, is it?
They doing really good in the USA
Europe is another story and I think about 5 million down on PS4 same time line.
Though they have advertised over here a lot and have done some great price reductions over the year 2024.
And of course they still totally dominate Europe/UK, Germany etc.
I think over here money has also been a bit tighter as well.
Personal news just in, I've finally found a disc drive!!!
Honestly I have no regrets buying a pro, in fact I'm loving it! Don't understand people trying to shame others for buying it, just let gamers be gamers 🥸
@UltimateOtaku91
Microsoft may as well pull the plug on consoles nowadays and get it over with.
Absolutely zero Black Friday deals on series x consoles in the UK.
And to show how out of touch pricing wise Microsoft are see below.
PS5 discless £389.99 rrp. £309.99 B Friday.
Series x discless £429.99 rrp
It’s like they don’t want to sell consoles.
Also I wonder how Trumps new tariff plans will effect PS5 sales next year and onwards. Parts will end up costing more to import from China which could mean another PS5 price increase.
@OldGamer999 I think they have one more generation in them which will see them release an handheld and the main console instead of a stripped back console like the Series S. If sales don't improve or get even worse for them then yeah they will become a publisher only.
“Accessories” is right! What’s the best thing about the PS5? Undoubtedly the portal and PSVR2. Strange to think that, but it’s true for me.
Anyway, the big growth territories are China and Africa. That’s where they’ll be looking moving forward, which I hope brings more diverse games.
@thefourfoldroot1 That's if China aren't about to clamp down on gaming again, they recently announced the closure of the Nintendo Switch store for 2026 and other online services.
@MrGawain Certainly beats playing Japanese games with scantily clad girls of a questionable age.
@thefourfoldroot1 as you say that I’m reminded that I recently played an ESO dungeon with a player who’s based in South Africa. He saw my name “Ahmad” and thought I was also African lol. Don’t think I’d ever knowingly come across a gamer from South Africa. I know they’re there. Just never have interacted with someone from there.
@MrGawain Astro Bot, Astro's Playroom, Death Stranding, Gran Turismo 7, Horizon Forbidden West, Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered, Returnal, Sackboy's Big Adventure are all Asian/European-developed games.
Then there's paid-for exclusives like Stellar Blade, FF7 Rebirth, Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin, also all European/Asian.
@MrGawain more like interactive movies . don’t you just love cali-sony
GTA 6 is going to help shift a lot of consoles. I think Sony studios are going to start being ready to release their big generational games from next year as well. The PS5 could end up outdoing the PS4, especially if they can find a way to cut product costs.
@Oram77 totally with you my friend! Everything I play just feels and looks better/faster/stronger 😎
@JustCameHereToSay that’s not how it works
"PS5 is still trending around 8% ahead of the PS4 launch aligned in USA, despite its higher price point and pandemic-induced stock shortages."
The idiotic tariffs in the U.S. will "fix" that right up.
@UltimateOtaku91 Gosh you love your box. I am glad it makes you feel better about yourself as a person. Seriously, who cares what Xbox does or doesn't. every comment you make has to trail back to Xbox. Enjoy the games and stop worrying about a box. Do you even play games or just worry about what MS does? Sony is winning the console war. They are selling more, OK. I hope that makes you feel better.
I'm pretty sure the gains in the US are due to the fact that Xbox One sold decently in the US but Series has simply collapsed everywhere, and PS benefits from the conversion. After all, This Is An Xbox.
Europe is the main piece that is very dar behind
@UltimateOtaku91 I've really only heard doom and gloom around Xbox, and maybe deservedly so. Not sure where you're hearing Sony is in trouble. I don't think anyone believes that.
Playstation consoles tend to pop off late in the generation. Especially now that games have, like, decade-long development cycles lol.
GTA VI is gonna sell so many consoles on its own.
It's just crazy. And to to think we are reaching year 4.
When PS4 reached year 3, the price dropped to 300 quid too and the Pro was introduced for 400. In year 4 of PS5 its more expensive than it was at launch and there is a 800 euro (= 844 dollars, figure that scam out) Pro lol.
It's astounding it's even keeping great pace of PS4 giving all these factors. But they did release a lot of their 2020 announced games, and even games announced after that too.
The argument could be made that Xbox's console sales are dropping every month for 2 years straight because there are 2019/2020 games announced that still lack a release date or even a release year. And no amount of LIES and myth spewing that Xbox has an incredibly well planned "roadmap", will change this fact.
Halo Infinite had a roadmap too, a TEN year roadmap.... and it died a death after less than 2 years.
@JustCameHereToSay no it’s not , you don’t even know what the term means. Interactive movie means games that are “story rich” with a bunch of walking & talking segments, cutscenes, and gameplay that’s a slow burn . not just a cutscene like you’re trying to simplify it to be.
I just wish M$ would pull their heads out of their a$$es and focus on making a decent console (be it portable or telly tied) and ecosystem so that Sony stop becoming complacent. I'm not interested in acquiring any kind of Xbox (although a portable would pique my interest), but Sony need strong competition to keep the buggers honest. Although I do feel the PS5 will have a strong back half of it's cycle, well developed PS5 games can sing on that thing, it just takes a bit of effort, and once some devs get their heads into it we could be in for some real treats. I don't see PS6 being fantastically better than PS5 Pro, I think we've reached a point of diminishing returns unless stupendous amounts of money are spent.
@andrewsqual Bear in mind that the EU/UK pricing should be inclusive of VAT/sales tax whereas those in the US have to do maths before they buy anything. Because... Complicated tax systems?
I honestly, and truly, do not know how.
I am 50, and this generation has been the worst PS generation in my lifetime.
I rarely play my PS5, and honestly regret buying it. I have maybe 20 games for my PS5 while I have over 120 for my Switch.
SInce I have always played P.C. games and own a Switch, and planning on buying a Switch 2, I do not thing I will ever buy another PS console. I love Playstation! But this current gen has left a very bad taste in my mouth.....The amount of remasters is just so damn ridiculous, PS PLUS rising in cost and having different tiers, and lack of new gaming content with new, or old I.P.'s, which in turn, I do not see that get any better, just really makes any interest I have in my current, or next PS console, go down to ZERO.
Sony will really have to pull a rabbit out of their a$$ to get me to buy a PS6!
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