
Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree, or any other DLC add-on, will be eligible to win Game of the Year at The Game Awards.
An update to the FAQ on the event’s official website notes: “The Game Awards aims to recognise the best creative and technical work each year, irrespective of the format of that content’s release. Expansion packs, new game seasons, DLCs, remakes and remasters are eligible in all categories, if the jury deems the new creative and technical work to be worthy of a nomination.”
The statement goes on to underline that “newness of the content and its price/value should be taken into consideration”. With the ballots now closed, Polygon reports that voters were aware of these rules prior to submitting their nominations.
While the language in the FAQ is new, it’s unclear if The Game Awards has always had this policy. For example, last year’s Cyberpunk 2077 expansion, Phantom Liberty, was a highly acclaimed release – although it never made the overall Game of the Year nominations. It was nominated for Best Narrative, however, so we suppose this is consistent with the above message.
Nevertheless, we suspect this statement has been released now because Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree has made the cut and will be one of the Game of the Year nominations set to be announced on Monday, but we’re not sure how we feel about that. Perhaps a different category for Best DLC would work better here?
It’s also interesting that in-game seasons are now also eligible for Game of the Year. That means, in theory, you could have a Fortnite season or Honkai: Star Rail patch competing against Astro Bot and Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth. Obviously we don’t think a scenario like that will occur, but it would be allowed per the above rules.
The Game Awards nominations and ultimate winners are determined by a panel of media and influencers from around the world, who submit their picks. The public also get a 10% say on the final outcome across all categories. Push Square is not part of the voting jury because we’re a single format website.
How do you feel about DLC or remasters being considered for Game of the Year? What would your reaction be if Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree won the top gong this year?
Do you think DLC or remasters should be eligible for Game of the Year? (1,441 votes)
- Yes, of course they should
- I don't really know
- No, that doesn't make sense
[source thegameawards.com, via polygon.com]
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Can't wait for Keighley to be bordering on tears as he shares the WORLD PREMIERE first trailer for FromSoftware's next game — then awards Shadow of the Erdtree the overall Game of the Year.
Keighley's Award show continues to be garbage.
@ChimpMasta It used to be on the website but weirdly I can't find the page at the moment. Let me have another look.
It used to be here, but the page doesn't load for me: https://thegameawards.com/voting-jury
Anything to ensure they can exclude Black Myth: Wukong
Agreed full on remakes should be a contender, but dlc I don't agree upon
Too many awesome games this year to give it to (what i'm assuming is) Elden Ring DLC. Elden Ring has had it's time.
Wishlist:
Sonic 06 remake
Sonic Adventure 1&2 remakes
Sonic heroes remake
Sonic Unleashed remaster
Mortal Kombat 9 remaster
Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe remaster
Mortal kombat Midway collection (MK-MKA)
Phantom liberty should have won game of the year then. It was sooooo goood
I usually don't care about these Game Awards, but if Shadow of the Erdtree wins over Astro Bot or Rebirth I'm going to be pissed.
Remasters, okay but DLC and seasons? Idk, that just seems off. Definitely reflects these changing times I suppose.
“GAME of the YEAR” Award should go to the Neir dlc in Stellar Blade b/c reasons.
https://youtu.be/Fr1lkJZAxm0?si=RZyeI66rnQdCM3Iu
Welp that's it then, Shadow of the Erdtree is going to snatch goty, Don't know how I feel about that....
I loved Elden Ring, I liked most of SotE, but it’s nowhere near the best FS DLC released let alone the best game released this year, I can name 5+ games better off the top of my head released this year, hopefully it doesn’t get nominated otherwise it’s a farce.
They had to make that decision really considering no one makes new games anymore 😬
@ATaco Even without this announcement, TBW has a low chance of being nominated. With the success of Silent Hill and Echoes of Wisdom, that game can't be a top six release this year. The only effect of this announcement is it put Elden Ring on the table.
Why are these awards such a joke? God I can't stand Keighly and his clown show
@get2sammyb If Bloodborne remastered/ remake isn’t announced for 10th anniversary release, we riot.
You can make an argument for remakes/remasters being eligible but any DLC that isn’t completely standalone shouldn’t be included.
So there no credibility to these awards then.
@MeanBeanEgg
They're afraid of strong men and sexy women.
I think DLC is fine, but I’m torn on Remasters. Maybe Remasters deserve their own award?
Anything for Geoff to jerk off elden ring for another year
Remakes yeah sure but remasters and DLC definitely shouldn't be eligible. They should get their own category.
I suspect this is to give Erdtree a nomination that I hope it doesn’t win. I can see the argument for it being a GotY contender, even if I felt the DLC was just sort of ok in comparison to the base game. This year is a weird year for games, and Erdtree was honestly more universal than most of the big releases this year. It is a substantial DLC… though an overrated one for me personally. I don’t particularly have a problem with DLC being included if it’s truly worth it, same as Remakes. I can’t think of a single DLC that I’d personally say comes close to being GotY for me though.
Remasters, on the other hand, do not deserve it, as they’re old games being re-released to run on current hardware. They’re basically the same game released a second time.
Truth be told, this is the first year where I’m somewhat grimacing in thinking of what may be nominated and what may win. Some may disagree with me, but 2024 had more alarm bells going off than celebration bells for this industry of ours that we love so much.
I think he's saying this before he gives FF7 GOTY instead of Astro Bot.
I believe full release of a video game got more juice.dlcs are secondaries.but it is what it is.word up son
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As others have said, remakes - yay… remasters & dlc - nay
Yeah no this isn't right. Elden Ring is great but it already got its flowers before. Make a best DLC category if you must but there is no reason Shadow of the Erdtree should be eligible.
I also don't think remakes and remasters should be eligible either since they are based on something that has come before at the end of the day, no matter how different they are.
Oh well. In the end it's up to the show makers what's what. I'm still looking forward to the show.
@Korgon yeah I like that solution… now you’ve said it, I can’t believe that there’s never actually been a best dlc category 🤷♂️
I'm growing weary of Geoffs face and forced excitement. I miss the utter madness of peak E3. Now it's just Geoff. Everywhere.
Guess Elden Ring is winning again 😁
I largely agree with commenters on here who say remakes yes, but remasters and dlcs no.
When I think about it, isn't a remake just a remaster with dlc baked in most of the time?
Extra categories make more sense tbh
@MeanBeanEgg
Yeah, ok.
Shadow of the Erdtree is a good expansion, that's for sure, but I don't personally think DLC's should really qualify for GotY, especially when the game released a few years prior.
@Scottdevine53 I completely agree with this list. I was playing MK Arcade Trilogy on my PS3 two days ago!
I do find it bizarre that it never made the Xbox backwards compatible list considering that MK9 and MK Vs DC are playable.
FF7 Rebirth
Astro Bot
Black Myth Wukong
Giving a remaster over any of these is an insult
@Worlock_ed No we don't riot.........We Hunt
Neither should be eligible. Pure nonsense to even consider that they should be. Remasters especially shouldn't be considered, since they're literally the same game, just remastered. Reimaginings (like Metroid Zero Mission, or the new version of Resident Evil 2) on the other hand are fine since they are different games than the originals.
''The public gets a 10% share of the vote.''
So it doesn't mean anything then.
Elden Ring dlc will win, but we all know Astrobot is what should truly win GotY.
I guess so. As long as they are judged on the same terms I don’t see the problem. Meaning if a DLC is terrible value for money, because it has 3 hrs of new gameplay for £20 and requires the purchase of another game to access, that would count heavily against it. Realistically though, would be best to have a separate category.
Not sure why Remasters would be ignored. Especially if they are from a generation ago (considered 16yrs for humans) as people who have never played the game before should be given a fair indication of how good it is without that impression being influenced by us old folks complaining we’ve already played it (we can just…not play it again after all). We wouldn’t expect a republication of a book to be marked down by a new critic just because it’s a republication after all, and that would be identical content.
DLC should simply have it's own category, given a large portion of games do dlc, its surprising it doesnt already exist.
The only time dlc should be valid for GOTY is if it's a standalone dlc, anything requiring base game shouldn't be valid for goty and would fall under dlc.
Remasters shouldn't be valid either, they're generally only graphical upgrades with minimal quality of life improvements, remakes are fine to be included.
This is ***** considering ff14 shadowbringers got snubbed
@__jamiie will mk9 and mkvsdc come to ps4 and ps5?
@Scottdevine53 Hopefully they all will.
Well Shadow of the Erdtree is better than most full-fledged games released this year, so I hope it wins
I’m fine with remakes but not really DLC. Just have your own category. Maybe this was posted because of FF7 Rebirth’s inclusion? Even though it’s considered a sequel, a lot still just put it in the remake category
Why are people so surprised that Shadows of the Erdtree might get nominated for GOTY? The Witcher 3's Blood and Wine expansion won RPG of the year in 2016 and no-one batted an eyelid.
If that’s the case give the award to the PlayStation version of vampire survivors.
@__jamiie What's on your wishlist for a possible Sonic 06 remake?
People seem to be confused about FF7 ReBirth, it's not a DLC or Remaster. It's a full on Remake built from scratch with significant changes.
@Scottdevine53 Zero load screens, fewer pointless missions, fewer/no humans, no sexual relationship between hedgehog and human.
What a weird rule. But eh, it's Mr Doritos event where i only care for world premiere trailer and some funny moments like Kratos roasted COD or that random kid who crashed the stage just to talk nonsense about reformed orthodox rabii Bill Clinton lmao.
@Weebleman I agree with this. It's all just one big ego trip for Keighley with endless ads thrown in. There's no actual interest in celebrating the people who make the games with half the awards not even shown at all.
That is total nonsense and a disrespect to the work the devs put into developing a full game from scratch.
The way TLOU is being handled, it’ll be GOTY nominated for the next 25 consecutive years.
@Nem absolutely!
Well this pretty much confirms they've already decided shadow of the erdtree is gonna win...
Games that will be nominated for GOTY:
Games that should actually be nominated and win:
This is a ridiculous notion and a clear sign they want Elden Ring DLC to win GOTY. Geoff has done alot for gaming and I respect him for that. But this is the last straw in my opinion.
@__jamiie wishlist on MK Midway collection and a possible Sonic 06 remake voice acting and Sonic Adventure 1&2 remakes
Some dev's DLC's are bigger and better than other dev's full AAA games.
So there is a case that can be made for their inclusion.
Alas, the decision is made, the discussion is pointless.
As for the GOTY: it will go like this.
Presenting person shouting from the stage:
P.S. A callback for Babylon 5 fans
@Weebleman I miss the E3 cringe fest.
That's a shame, all but confirms that Shadow of the Erdtree will win. Astro Bot winning GotY was the best chance of knocking some sense into Sony.
I can understand DLC, but in game seasons?!?!?! I see people discussing remakes and DLCs. But in game seasons winning game of the year sounds like the most stupid thing ever, sorry
@Scottdevine53 I've got Sonic Adventure 1&2 on Xbox so I'd rather they focus on 06.
And here I thought The Game Awards couldn't be even more of a clownshow. Looks like I've been proven wrong.
Ridiculous! Why not just add a category for expansion/dlc of the year?
@RBMango Real
@__jamiie Wishlist on Sonic 06 remake voice acting
Lol, lmao even. Why not just put them in a dlc/remaster of the year catagory. As someone else said this is a big middle finger to developers with fresh releases/experiences. Guess they need the "approved" games to win. 🙄
@DonJorginho Going to have to disagree. Absolutely the best DLC they have ever done in my opinion, and I've played them all. Also, as much as I've enjoyed Astro Bot, I cannot think of any game remotely as impactful on me this year as SotE.
No matter how good Shadow of the Erdtree is - it's not a game. It's a slippery slope
If the Elden Ring DLC wins GOTY, I'm never paying this ***** show any mind again.
Creating a category for best remaster, best dlc and best remake seems like a good idea to me. It would be good to set a standard and degree of competitiveness for these things that way
In my opinion, no. Put in a separate category for remasters/remakes and dlc
The Game Awards judges doing everything they can to avoid giving a Game of the Year award to a Japanese RPG not made by From Soft.
@NapoleonDynamite It shouldn't have.
Y'all are hilarious thinking they're giving it to SotE hence this DLC, Remake eligibility update. If anything maybe it's going to FFRebirth. SotE won't win but it's capable of getting a nomination as it's better than most full games out there.
@Orpheus79V I agree.
remasters shouldn’t count or dlcs come on people , this is common sense
It's all about who gave Geoff the biggest bag of cash. Or if his vastly, overrated friend Kojima wants something.
DLC content has been verging on sequel territory for a while now. Just because it’s baked into the base game shouldn’t mean that it couldn’t essentially be a game unto itself. Some sequels are rarely entirely different beasts compared to their predecessors and often only make changes around the edges. Erdtree perhaps does enough of that to be considered a sequel in its own right, by the standard of how much tinkering some other sequels do, even if it’s not as large as the base game. Regardless, I think Ertree would be an important inclusion in the GOTY category, if only to incentivize other publishers to put as much time and craft into expansions in the future.
I think considering sequels for GotY is weird, let alone remasters and DLC, but I'm a sicko.
If Shadow of the Erdtree gets nominated, I will only watch The Game Awards for SEGA announcements. I will skip the GOTY nominations. Only new games should be eligible.
Remaster or DLC should not be included for Game of the year.
@Llamageddon Remasters are just ports with better visuals. Remakes are the same games made from the ground up if they are new games.
There are Remakes I agree being eligible and others not. Remakes like Resident Evil 4 or Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth (even though I don't consider it a Remake) are fine being eligible.
But Remakes like Demon's Soul or Shadow of Colossus should not because there is basically no difference compared with the original games.
@Netret0120 Metaphor ReFantazio deserves the award more than those 3.
Why the hell not? DLCs and Remasters are going to have to be extraordinarily good to compete with actual Game of the Year contenders, but I'm comfortable with them being in the conversation. If Phantom Liberty had released during a really dry year I would have been fine with it winning Game of the Year, but that sort of circumstance may never happen. Even if another year like 2014 rolls around, another Dragon Age Inquisition will probably still be more deserving and end up winning above a remaster or DLC.
@NapoleonDynamite People are waking up.
@UltimateOtaku91 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth isn't a Remake, it's a Reimagining.
That is pure nonsense. Goty should be a new game not a remastered etc. meh
Helldivers WAS an absolute shoe-in till Sony farted all over itself with the PSN requirement on PC. But I also put well over a hundred hours into Shadow of the Erdtree and enjoyed every second of it. Beating pre-nerf Radahn was a chore, but totally worth it.
To be fair, Shadow of the Erdtree took me over 100 hours to comb through on my first playthrough. 😂 It's a pretty substantial game
As much as its the best thing that came out this year Shadow of the Erd Tree is just too entwined with base Elden Ring to be a GOTY unto itself.
If it was more of a standalone thing? Sure, maybe. And I don't mean like a game within a game DLC, like say an Undead Nightmare, necessarily. Though that would also be acceptable. I was playing Ode to Castlevania last week having played literally zero Vampire Survivors previously and without touching a lick of the base content had a full experience with the DLC but also the DLC was fully integrated into the base experience.
Now I'm not saying that Ode to Castlevania should win game of the year but it's the kind of DLC structure that might work for nomination. Erdtree on the other hand is just more Elden Ring flat out. You cannot separate it and play it as a bespoke thing on any level which means giving it GOTY is just giving another GOTY to a game that came out a couple years ago.
All that said... who really cares? It's just the Keighleys. It means less to me then any three of my favorite gaming podcasts GOTY winners. If they want to redefine the rules so that Elden Ring wins again I'm all for it. Fromsoft deserves all the praise and it probably won't hurt the chances of getting big on stage reveals of their future games
I mean, as much as I am one of these cynic and annoying people that hates on everything that is hyped … but I am playing Astro Bot right now and it would be ridiculous if anything other than this game wins GOTY.
Let's just make fortnite goty for the next 20 years or so. Then we don't have to watch A the Doriton Pope at all anymore. 🤡
@ChimpMasta @get2sammyb I suspect they are updating the jury list for 2024 as I also can’t get it to load, but the voting Jury for TGAs is usually over 100+ different outlets from over 30 countries including a wide range from:
You can see last years jury here on the internet archive. BTW Keighley never gets a vote.
There is no one truth to GOTY but it’s definitely the broadest range of different types of gamers within the industry in an awards that can’t easily be manipulated or brigaded. Unlike something like the 100% fan (& bot) voted Golden Joysticks which previously had more votes but has been influenced in the past by online campaigns.
Personally I think they do a very good job of making the voting jury very wide, getting a range of voices from across gaming while being transparent about the process, rules and jury.
Lastly what do sales have to do with game of the year? If is was based on sales Call of Duty would have won almost every year for over a decade and EA sports games would fill a lot of the shortlist. Something like Astro Bot, the highest rated game this year, wouldn’t stand a chance. Sales are a good way to judge a games success but a terrible way to judge if it’s the best game that year imo.
If it’s a proper expansion, like Phantom Liberty of Erdtree that gives more content, and brings more new ideas than many full games then I have no problem with it being on the list.
The Game Awards sucks ass
I don't know how anyone can stand it
Ah....
"The Biased" awards show again, just no.
Bending all these rules just for Starfield seems a little silly...
@Ichiban Personally, I lean towards enthusiast press and celebrations of the hobby. I know it's all corrupt but there's no such thing as an honest consumer anymore, and everyone says journos are corrupt and blah blah blah. I'm just here to have fun...even if half the time it is gallows humor.
Shadow of the Erdtree shouldn't have been nominated imo since it's really an expansion to Elden Ring.
A game is NOT a DLC... a DLC is a paid extension of a game. It CAN be amazing... but when it comes from an AMAZING game... that could also mean it was jus carved off, and adds little to the main game. There's been plenty of great DLC... it deserves it's own category. It is insulting to everyone to allow DLC to win GOTY. I will categorically promise to boycott Geoff Forever if they do this.
It's just a cheap excuse to fill up GOTY nominee spots with DLCs and keep the likes of Wukong or Stellar Blade out of the running. Nothing more, nothing less.
@BintendoMan @Bluemoon2008 @Korgon @colonelkilgore
Hear, hear! Give all these their own category. Best DLC, Best In-Game Season, and given the proliferation of remasters/remakes, hand them their own award as well.
Must be a dry year for gaming, lots of failures like concord, Sucide squad, Star Wars
@Gaia093 we all know those are the best games released this year
Don't they have award categories?
Best New Game
Best Studio
Best Remastered Game
Best DLC
ETC ETC ETC
While I was enjoying watching TGA over the years. Last few years were really bad and instead of being a show to celebrate Games and Devs. It became something else that I can't even recognize.
Remasters for GOTY is absurd as are DLCs qualifying.
Even remakes shouldn't be allowed.
@zupertramp
Best micro transactions
Best paid costumes
Best loot available after Boss defeat
Best jumping physics
Best sarcasm from a protagonist
Best time before game tells you how to solve puzzle
Best turnaround time between original release and remake/remaster for moneygrab
This is just becoming a bigger and bigger ****show
Sorry to all of those that disagree but Shadow of the Erdtree is a full blown game, not just an expansion. Some of you just want a Sony game to win just to make you feel better about yourself as a Sony fan.
Wow, just when you think Keighley can't get any dumber, he goes and does something like this...
Shadow of the Erdtree might be titled a DLC, but it is a full-sized game. A fukkin awesome one. I hope Fromsoft destroy all. And we need new IP. ASAP!!
That said, Bloober copped so much absolute hate while they were developing SH2 remake and the result was an absolute triumph. It is a remake but still original enough to be a new game. Both deserve the win. Bring it on!
@cburg sigh Can you play Shadow Of The Erdtree on its own, without already owning Elden Ring?
Yes: It is a full blown, standalone game. Well done, you were right all along.
No: It is DLC for an existing product.
Good talk.
DLC? No, simply put, additional content for an existing game does not constitute a separate 'game' in itself. As these are the GAME of the year awards, I see no basis for their inclusion. Remasters and remakes on the other hand - despite the fact they have already done the rounds - do constitute a separate standalone GAME at least, so I think their inclusion is warranted, but maybe in a separate category.
@GreatAuk I kinda love all of these lol.
DLCs should probably have thier own category since Ongoing Game doesn't really fit, and to my mind that should just be live service stuff.
Remakes are fine when its the likes of RE2, RE3, RE4, SIlent Hill 2 as they built the game again and expanded on it in ways.
Remasters should be left out completely
@mikeawmids What is this you just said?
Why not create a "Best DLC" or "Best Remake" category?
You can see where this idea is going from a mile away and a month ahead.
Yet another reason why this is a joke. I don't care one bit for this. I can watch trailers when they show up online.
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