Wuthering Waves Fanbase in Flames After Dev Makes Some Undies Edits

Incoming messages where people call those that play these types of games every negative name they can think of.

And no I don't play WuWa... mostly because I just didn't enjoy the combat much.

The fact that anyone even noticed this speaks volumes about that section of the fan base. Embarrassing.

The absolute second hand embarrassment of it all.

@themightyant
I'm honestly amazed with the sheer amount of Gachas you play. I just play ZZZ and that already feels like too much.

Gamers are their own worst enemies at times. 🙄

Isn't this fake bait? I have the character and I never even would of noticed if it wasn't for the internet

It takes a special kind of "gamer" to notice these kinda things. The kind that should be on a register.

How very dare they! 🥸

At least the watermelon knockers have been left unmolested by the evils of censorship.

U must be lonely in life if u worry someone fixing panties in a game gooners need help

This is the Stellar Blade "controversy" all over again, remember folks it was the devs who wanted to change some outfits for Eve, so save your pitchforks for something that actually matters.

Any form of art shouldn't be changed only because censors don't like it. It doesn't matter if it's in this case or another. If they don't like it, just go away. For example I heavily dislike anime at all, but I'm not poking to artists who make it. Art is art.

At this point I’m sure they are just doing it for the free publicity from sites like this and writers seem happy to give it to them.

I've never played these sorts of games, but this seems tame compared to the vagina textures they patched out of WatchDogs 2, or even the nudist NPCs you'd occasionally catch wandering around the city in that game.

Always reminds me that I share my hobby with crazy weirdos...

And the world just becomes a little less enjoyable.

@Oram77
lol, the naivety.

@thefourfoldroot1 I am? I mean, it was the literal case with Stellar Blade...

Sheesh… the cake on Fleurdelys… I would have been mad about that too 🤣 clearly joking, I don’t usually play games that be purposely revealing.

I can't say I like or support censorship in art but with cases of uncomfortable behavior going up on PS5 and elsewhere, I get it. Not everyone knows how to draw the line between an avatar and a person, and not everyone wants to.

Fun is fun and art is but when I see someone in a fit of absolute Hulk smash-rage about this kind of censorship I can't help but wonder how they would react around a real person. Then I remember it's not single player.

Edit: The more I think about it the stranger it gets. I read the reddit post and I can't help but picture a bunch of guys being aroused by a boss fight, while at the same time trying to focus on the fight itself. It's cursed my afternoon. I had to leave the room to even read the article for fear of someone seeing, and then trying to explain what it was about.

i guess the perverts are upset..

“They’ve unfortunately removed the detail…” Holy 🤬 these guys are pitiful!

Edit: Why are people saying “censorship” at this? This isn’t really the type of censorship that needs to be railed against. The devs made a change. They weren’t forced to make the change. If you all are so against censorship (which I am also not a fan of) then why wear clothing? Be the rebels you claim to be and show’em you mean business! Again, this is such odd behavior 😬

@get2sammyb Don't look at The First Descent then 👀

Oh no, I can't look at the panties of a (probably underaged) anime girl no more. What will I do with my life now 😫

As silly as it sounds, I think this kind of stuff is absolutely diabolical.

Look... if no one wants to hear out the folks complaining about a line, I get it-- sounds super banal. But the issue I immediately have is when this happens to gacha games. We all know the entire point is to sell the characters based on different appeals. You're already in fanservice city as the main bait. If whatever you see there is how the character is represented when you spend god KNOWS how much money, then it should stay that way. Any actual improvements are fine(new attack, animations, etc), but it's not like these characters are going to move faster without the wedgie lol

I just think it makes more sense to reward people for spending that kind of money. Playing the morality game now seems 4 steps too late.

I don't play any gacha games but there's a few on the horizon that definitely caught my eye. I highly doubt it'll be underwear related but I know there's a level of change that would make me pretty upset if I started to invest in those.

There ain't nothing sexy about cameltoe man.

@bluemage1989 yeah that’s what I thought. Funny these games are released in these states only to be changed later…

What's even sadder than the weebs complaining about this , is that there is other weebs out there that will see this and want to play it now , good job for getting more publicity and most likely more money 👍

One day maybe people will realise it’s not about the panties. It’s about changing something that shouldn’t bother anyone.
If it’s removed then it means there is someone out there who went bellow and beyond to find something to complain about and the devs catered to them, instead of preserving something some people valued (the original artist included)

Also, the idea that someone who likes something sexual in nature is a pervert is 18th century puritanical. I don’t play these games, and i assume most people commenting don’t, but why would you go out of your way to insult someone based on they enjoying these details in their sexy gacha game is beyond me

@Oram77
You think it was the devs’ choice and not the publisher?

@Carck ah, yes. The value of cameltoe. Now that's a worthy cause.

I think this is all part of a bigger question of "does nudity have a place in video games?"

I dont know this game, but 3 questions HAVE to be able to be answered YES to:

• Is the rating 18+ ?
• Does it include a Nudity in the rating warning?
• Are the characters involved 18+ (and depicted as such ie the character looks 18+)?

Its a debate ive seen many times, but not often from anything other than an (often immature) 'Im outraged at ..... censorship..." point of view - often where the character in question is female....

Whatever the answer, no game should be allowed to objectify one sex, be it female (which appears to be often the case) or male, and nudity of any type, if included, should not be disproportionately used (eg character sex, age, build etc) ie the game should equally include nudity across character types and sexes.

If I remember correctly and as a fairly extreme example, full frontal nudity was included in Cyberpunk across both sexes - though I cant honestly remember there being any real reason for it, but I also cant remember it being a big point of discussion.

NB no innuendo is being intended in my comment.

@Carck it’s not about the camel toe. It’s about changing something that doesn’t bother anyone. This is why when they change a piece of shoulder armor it gets the same level of pushback online. Because it’s the change itself that matters. Not what’s being changed… 😒

Edit: /s

@AhmadSumadi Does it matter, though? It's their game. Their product. Their development. Why shouldn't they have the right to change it however they see fit?

The boss censorship bothers me more than the cameltoe but with how chaotic and fast she is, i literally never noticed what she was wearing down there 😂. As for cantarella, I thought the appeal of her was the 2 massive reasons upfront that jiggle like crazy. Even during serious cutscenes lol

I hope the SEO on this article was worth it.

@thefourfoldroot1 The main dev literally went on stage on said it was HIS choice, so yes I believe it.

@Rich33 Conan Exiles had it too. When I played it there was no warning for 'here comes a big ol' d--k' it was just right there with a slider. They added the warning after the game got more popular. It was pretty funny to see it, but that characters looked nothing like children. These were rough gruff adults.

Unfortunately you can't stop children accessing 18+ content, it's up to the parent/guardian. Gaming is a great hobby but already some very unsettling content is normalized, and it's sometimes the first thing you see on the storefront. Consoles have beaten other devices in reports of unsavory interaction with minors.

I don't agree with repressing sexuality, it's healthy to do what mother nature intended. Those characters aren't real, the people playing them are. If a Dev/Studio tries to deliberately sexualize children then they shouldn't be in business, doing so enables a much bigger problem. I don't care if their standards are different, they are responsible when they market it to The West.

I definitely do think nudity has a place in video games, it's the human body, it's natural and there's no shame in it. It's unhealthy to hide it all away as if it doesn't exist, especially when it can be an expression of art. One gamer friend is all messed because they were frequently told how wrong sexuality was, they struggle to even date.

It becomes a problem when the subject is easily mistaken for a child. Whether they realize it or not they are slowly programming themselves to build a mechanism around that image. One that (if you've read the reports/studies) is almost impossible to adjust, or remove. I've met too many peoples who's ideas of 'normal' were messed up by the media they consumed.

I'm not making excuses for their behavior, it absolutely shatters your trust in humanity when you find out. I don't think anyone is an expert on this especially when it comes to games. I just know there are some things a developing brain shouldn't exposed to and most of those things are always just a click away. Even the idea of this topic would mortify some people, parents especially.

It should be talked about, not ignored or laughed off as gooners gonna goon. Censorship is just the tip of that iceberg.

@Carck

I think it's generally just human nature. The longer I live the more I notice humanity absolutely reveling in the disappointment of others especially if there's fake brownie points available for being morally superior.

@ElkinFencer10 read my comment again. I edited it to be more clear and concise.

@TicklefistCP Maybe if women aren't your speed

@GirlVersusGame
I have edited my original comment to include the clarification "(and depicted as such ie the character looks 18+)? " as when reading your reply, you are quite right in that its not enough just to say the character(s) is 18+ , that has to match with the depiction / facial features etc, and anything else is frankly sick and im sure illegal.

As I say, I dont know much about this game at all, and my point was more generalised after casually reading the article - but this seems to be a topic that I have read about a lot recently, and I think its far more nuanced than some make it out to be.
Not targetting under 18s or depicting under 18s is obviously key, but I also think games need to be careful in not objectifying a single sex, or applying disproportionately (as per my original comment).

Quite agree with the fact that some parents will not stop under 18s watching/playing 18 classification movies/games - but I do wonder how clearly the content is labelled to parents/ guardians?
Its not something I pay much attention to, but I have been asked (on a few occasions, by different people) for my "opinion" on certain games before, when a parent was asking about the stength of content in a game.
To a certain extent this is a whole discussion in itself!

@SintasSays as if all women have that terrible affliction.

@AhmadSumadi I gotcha. Apologies, I misunderstood your meaning originally.

@Rich33 I don't think a lot of parents understand what their children are playing or watching half the time. I only dabbled briefly with Anime. Afterwards I had tea with the Mum of the person who tried to get me into it. She was concerned that her son was gay because he collected 'dolls' and watched cartoons. I told her he definitely wasn't.

I wasn't sure if she had blinders on or not, it was obvious how sexual some of those statues and things were but she took it to mean something else. His Dad was the one who was more casual about it, probably because he knew not to make a big deal about it. That's pretty much how I feel about adults engaging in anything consensual, including gaming. It's not really harming anyone.

Being a gamer can be awkward enough, when you try to restrict gender/sexuality to specific themes/hobbies (especially in gaming) you run the risk of pushing people further into a vacuum where they are more likely to run into those who are a little bit more extreme in their preferences. I feel worse off for people who are pushed off to the side, I've never seen guilt bring about anything positive and if that character is an adult then I don't see why anyone should feel guilty about it. Open minded individuals are why we have so many great games to play.

I saw a lot of unnecessary drama when Infinity Nikki launched. One particular friend wanted to try it (it's free and he didn't have a lot of money to spend on new games) sure enough some others piped up with 'that games gay', for all they knew he fancied the character. I don't think we can ever know why people play the games they do or consume the media that they do. I try not to assume.

Gamers are a lot closer to the subject matter and we still don't know what makes others tick, I don't think parents have a hope in hell of keeping up. It took the police on my doorstep for mine to understand. I called them when I knew others were involved. Had I said nothing they would have been oblivious to the whole thing. It wasn't a separate incident either. I never touched another online game again and lurked on this site for years before I even made an account. It's been healthy to get back into the community. It's still a great outlet, I just don't like that the world is in such a ridiculous state and so much time is spent pointing out everyone's differences instead of just getting on with it and letting them be. Happiness is in short supply right now, everyone is feeling pressure from something.

People laugh and name-call until their game gets censored. If this was a choice the devs decided to make organically, fine; otherwise, buzz off with your politics.

@Oram77
Ok, you can believe that if you wish. The rest of the game, not to mention the devs’ original designs, stand in strong evidence against that. But you can believe the devs had a change of heart if you wish.

@Rich33 If its not 18 its childporn to be fair. And dont get me started about a girl that looks like she is 14 and then say in the description she is 18 its a bit creepy.

@GirlVersusGame The mom asked he was gay because he collected statues of sexual looking females then she is just dumb. And does watching cartoons make you gay? I guess dumb and blind dont want to be rude she just sounds ignorant and extremely dumb and close minded religious maybe?

And i hope she stays offline she probably would go nuts. Kids get bombarded with adult stuff nowadays.

@Flaming_Kaiser
Yes, and whilst it seems like "18+ and looks 18+" is something that should just be a given (and I was trying to raise a point also against the objectification of a single sex), this seems like something that in a videogame could be open to more abuse (whether intended or not), also age determination in a game character is often more difficult when a facial model is not used.

As I said, I dont know this game - so cant comment on the characters listed in the article.

@Flaming_Kaiser Not religious at all. She was a normal enough Northern English Mum who was really kind. It was just something completely foreign to her because there was no Anime in her time. What she saw was her son collecting those figures (some did look like they were made for girls - I was picturing them on my shelf) and watching what looked like cartoons about high schools and shopping. Then there were the posters. She had no other reference point and resorted to forming one herself.

When he brought me home to meet her she just came out and asked (he wasn't in the room) she was just worried for him, it didn't come across as judgemental. It sounded like she'd been worried for years and the worry wasn't about him being gay, it was how he'd struggle in that environment. This was a small town and I'd come up from London, it was completely alien to me too. I got the impression that everyone knew everyone's business there and she didn't want him being the brunt of someones joke, or worse.

I've mentioned it before but there's a housing crisis at the moment. People are struggling to pay for rent, many are moving home. If he wasn't living at home he'd have room to better place his collection and it wouldn't look as weird. That's why guys have man caves and or game rooms, or at least they would if people didn't have to part with a kidney just to keep a roof over their heads.

He's not the only person I've met in that kind of situation. Gaming wasn't always as cool as it is now, I met lots of people online who were from small towns, with few prospects and falling into niche hobbies gave them something to do. That often plays back into how they experiment with sexuality too and it becomes even easier to label and judge. It's a cycle, I don't grow out of my hobbies so why should they. Maybe it's a double standard, or maybe people need to worry about their own situation before they go and judge someone else's.

You never know who's on the other side of the screen, I've seen some really bad outcomes from that kind of online pressure. I did all kinds of content creating/streaming, ran some top guilds Etc and people just naturally opened up and talked. I was really good at recruiting, I apply it to my actual work now. This was before the world went as nuts as it is now, that kind of perspective gave me a whole new appreciation of life. I'd assumed people were there to game, for some it's all they had and a lot of the reasons feed back into what I just said.