Hands On: PS5 Pro Injects More Magic into Hogwarts Legacy

Walked into the dining hall with Quality+RT and it ran at sub 30fps . Disappointed, tbh . The performance mode looked pretty crisp and ran way better though.

The RT on Hogwarts legacy was never really that good even on a High-end PC.
The fact that it keeps everything else the same but adds more blurry and shaky reflections with the same res and framerate is a little disappointing.

I know the pro is a shiny new toy (and I hope those that got it are enjoying it)

But do we really need an article on every game? It’s going to be better than the standard ps5.

The horse is flogged.

That's a bit disappointing to be honest.

The one game that I thought was immediately a stand out from the presentation and it was in all likelihood running at 30fps to make the graphics look their best.

Feels like a bit of a confused implementation

only recently picked up a PS5 (slim), but this website has just been a PS5 pro ad site since then!!

(Regular) Performance mode (not just high framerate mode) can also be uncapped, and on Pro runs well above 60fps in a lot of areas, without a hit to visual quality you get by putting it into high framerate mode.

Even I dont see the point in dropping the visuals so hard for the increase in fps offered by the High framerate mode, and I really like high framerates.

In this mode its one of the best Pro enhancements, with a significant increase in image quality, plus the annoying ghost images from FSR are gone too.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Yes, we do. PS5 Pro owners like myself want to know how the games have changed. Why do you bother reading the articles and commenting?

You HAVE to stop with these blatant ads for the Pro. We do NOT need a blow by blow for every game. Of course they’re better. It’s a £700 machine.

From now on just assume the PS5 Pro runs games better by default before you start losing traffic.

The problem is, @fleenerstrunk, whilst the reporters are writing these articles, they cannot be doing something else that might interest all of us, rather than a certain subset...

And another one... sigh... 😒

@themightyant there's supposedly a definitive edition coming next year....

Only 593 games to go, keep it up lads /s

@Fiendish-Beaver which pieces of news has Push Square missed in the last week?

I'm not sure what you and all the other people complaining about expect, with a new piece of hardware out that has the main feature of improving already existing games.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Yes we do, as a new console we want details and changes listed and tested.

@Fiendish-Beaver Sony doesn’t talk much these articles are the first time there has been something to talk about for years. This would be a good time to do an interesting deep dive on a historical PlayStation topic though which I would love.

Personally I hope Pushsquare cover all major games which have had enhancement patches.

If you dont have a Pro, or aren't interested in getting one, why read the articles - I dont read every article here that does not interest me.

Plenty of people are working hard at Pushsquare to test out and write these articles, and I want to read comments from other people who have checked out the game on Pro, or have other info relevant to the Pro enhancement of the game in question.

It is sadly feeling like a few people irritated they dont have one at the moment.

For every person who complains about a PlayStation-focused website covering a new PlayStation console launch, we add another game to the list to write about.

I get some are bored of the pro articles but as new pro owner I’m finding them useful so appreciate them.

Maybe it’s time to stop clicking them if it’s of no interested to you.

@LiamCroft oof 😂

@LiamCroft
Lol
But, that just makes me want to complain on every article now, so we get more.

(No sarcasm, at least to yourself, as you will see from my comment above yours)

To be honest the game by game articles are pretty interesting, eventually we’ll get into a rhythm of knowing which devs are likely to have better improvements etc etc. but what we really wanna see Pro-wise is Arkham Knight! Arkham Knight! Arkham Knight! Arkham Knight! Arkham Knight! Arkham Knight!

@LiamCroft I will read them all!

@PsBoxSwitchOwner I really think there's just not that much else to talk about at the moment. No big game releases imminent, no new game announcements, still a month away from the Game Awards. If not the Pro, what do you think PS should write about right now?

@wildcat_kickz it was more does every game need its own article? A round up would work better imo.

Nothing against the pro and I’m glad it’s performing well. I’m all for it. It’s just with 50+ games out there it’s a bit repetitive to say it’s performance is better than base ps5

It's looking real nice with the added RT and the image quality is still high. Other modes are extremely smooth in the IQ department . Happy with the results!

All these comments moaning about Pro coverage are a bit weird considering it's news about Playstation and there's not exactly anything else going on right now - what do you expect? Me thinks people may be feeling the colour green 😬

@LiamCroft 🤣🤣🤣 keep the articles coming! Really enjoying them.
It’s perfectly obvious who are here to just be negative - perhaps even with an affiliation elsewhere…..

@zhoont
Ive added a comment further down but if people want the best experience in this game on Pro, and have a 120hz VRR TV, they really need to try it in Performance mode, and uncap the framerate - I have a lot of hours in this game, and like you have said, this mode has had a big increase.

Same old few saddos crying in the comments, haven’t you got anything better to do than to continue moaning about the console you supposedly don’t care about? 😉

I still question the hyperbole around a lot of the rhetoric around how "amazing" the PS5 Pro is, unless Hogwarts ran particularly terribly on the PS5.

Hogwarts is a game I've played fully on a Series X (which I believe ran worse than it did on PS5 at the time?), and again on a 4070 Ti Super, and also on a 4090. The 4070TiS vs 4090 has zero difference, the 4090 can just hit more extreme 3 digit fps. The 4070TiS does have some increased sharpness, the ray tracing adds "different" lighting you would neither notice as better or worse without side by sides. Does it look "better" with all the settings maxed? Somewhat, but it's far from what I would consider a significant difference, Hogwarts is a technological marvel how it ran on the consoles.

Edit: And just to be clear, not knocking this article which is very clear it's not a big difference, just highlighting that this game highlights that some of those OTHER articles going into hyperbole are questionable.

@LiamCroft @Rich33 Love it as you guys will, I happen to find Push a less interesting site now that the whole site is just "here's how much better PS5 games would run on an old PC."

Either cover the PS5, or buy yourselves a cheap Zen2 4070 laptop and cover that, I'm sure you can get one on Black Friday for about the same price as a disc+stand PS5 Pro, and it'll amaze you if you think the Pro is all that!

I love Harry Potter but… I tried it once but couldn’t get into it. I got too overwhelmed with Hogwarts. I wish it was a bit more linear instead at the beginning to get you more used to roaming around the school. It’s probably a “me” issue. I’m 100% going to give it another chance though

Feels like the Dining Hall floor shouldn't be that shiny, it looks wet rather than the rough stone everyone has walked for hundreds of years.

I hope the sequel ditches the open world aspect, it seriously brought the overall experience down. A smaller hub area for Hogwarts, Hogsmeade with the immediate adjoining areas should be it (maybe with an unlockable Forbidden forest area) followed by mostly linear story missions, throw in a couple of open area missions in there and you'd get a tighter better overall game.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Oh, I totally get it! I'm just saying that PS probably makes money off ads and clicks, so more articles = more ads and more clicks. If there's no other news going on to write articles about, they need to fill the site with something. Not ideal, but here we are...

@Fiendish-Beaver before the pro came out they wrote a lot of articles I wasn’t interested in. Only difference is I didn’t click on them and complain

@PsBoxSwitchOwner This. It feels like every other article is about Pro reinventing something. I feel less and less inclined to check site updates. I hope normalcy returns soon.

@NEStalgia I got the PS5 Pro and am very happy with my purchase, but you're not wrong. The changes for the majority of the games that have a Pro patch are incremental, at best. There are some standouts, like Hogwarts, FF VII Rebirth, and the Crew, but most can essentially be distilled down to "Fidelity mode at 60fps."

The problem with game graphics now is we've reached a point where a game such as Alan Wake 2 on PS5 looks amazing, and with 4K resolutions those jaw dropping moments of seeing games on a new console are history. I feel privileged to have started gaming on the Atari 2600 in the 80's and I've had that wow moment many times with a new console. Spectrum to Amiga, Amiga to SNES, SNES to PS One

@NEStalgia with the specific Pro patches, I'd say games are displaying a far bigger difference than what we had with PS4 and PS4 Pro 👍 additional RT features, increased resolutions/IQ and doubling frame rates - although not at the same time in the case of Hogwarts specifically - make quite the difference.

@zhoont I tried the Dead Rising Demo with added ray tracing on pro and it played worse than the demo did on the regular PS5. These extra features sound good, but why add them if the game can’t run smoothly.

Its good to know which setting would be best played, so the articles are fine. The PS5 Pro will keep me going till the PS6, I've been happy with it and been impressed with the games such as Last Of Us and Spiderman etc. I tried Hogwarts and sure the extra Ray Tracing looks nice but I found Performance is best and it looks better than before. I always preferred Performance in games and now most patched games I can do the Performance with great quality. Only main compromise is ray tracing really which is no biggie since I barely stop my characters to just stand there looking at details.
Besides everyone hating on it will change their tune once GTA6 comes out.

@Loamy
"with the specific Pro patches, I'd say games are displaying a bigger difference than what we had with PS4 and PS4 Pro"

I certainly agree with you on patches like this one.
Forgetting the RT mode (because itts 30fps which is a bit disappointing), I like the fact that the performance modes add a bit of everything at the same time - increased visual quality, better settings, and increased smoothness / fps (if you have the TV to uncap) - rather than just focussing on 1 thing, which is what the PS4 Pro did with resolution, which was understandable at the time as 4k was the new thing.

@NEStalgia
If I went on the PC site, i would want to know what I could expect from an average and a top tier set up (PS5 has just got its top tier a few years late) - although I have seen some PC info where about 6 different set ups are compared!

Im sure it will all blow over in about... 4 years time when PS6 is announced lol.

@Rich33 PC sites will do HARDWARE comparisons with a standard set of common benchmark games and test suites when new hardware launches, mostly comparing fps results at the same set of settings.

Not separate analysis of every single game on the new card, page after page after page. Not detail zoom ins of one versus another. Just a performance comparison at like settings.

Though once consoles have "tiers" console already failed. You're just choosing between an open PC platform or a closed one.

@NEStalgia Push square still creates articles on all other news topics. Actually, of the 17 articles created today, only 3 were about the Pro.

But as you may have read by now, there is a lot of interest from people to know exactly what features the devs used to upgrade these games, whether its resolution, fps, the use of PSSR or a combination of all.

And since you mention PC, you are aware that PC sites and channels also benchmark hardware with many games, to properly explain to those interested how a particular hardware affects a game.

By the way, if you ever find that RTx4070 laptop. Im sure others would like to see the link, as some might find it an interesting alternative to the PS5 Pro. 😃

As a Pro owner I appreciate these articles letting me know which games at launch are enhanced and how they’re enhanced. Perhaps if we were a year out from release it might seem superfluous but the console just launched. I can’t help but feel part of the complaints are from people who want to pretend it doesn’t exist because they didn’t / can’t purchase one.

@NEStalgia Thats not entirely true though. There are plenty channels who make detailed videos benchmarking a single card on a game by game basis. For example an RTx4090 running Cyberpunk. Some of these channels have 100s of thousands of subscribers. Meaning there are PC people who are interested in seeing how these cards perform with individual games.

This particular focus on older games running on Pro will probably be only temporary though. I mean really, why would anyone get upset for a momentary focus on the Pro. Its not like a new console gets released every day. Or every year even.

@Zuljaras The irony is pretty funny. Especially since you’re also milking that joke. This is the 2nd time I've seen you post that picture in different articles 😄

It is a funny pic though, i must admit, glad you’re getting a lot of mileage out of it, Lol!

All good showing screen shots but it runs like *****. I was really disappointed by this. The pro is a fantastic console and this kinda poor enhancements let it down massively.

For you @PsBoxSwitchOwner and anyone who complaining and got angry about PS5 Pro articles, i seriously reccomend logging off from the internet & social media for like a week long.

You guys made a big fuss over gaming articles that you don't care but informative for other people is a clear sign that you spent too much time on the internet & social media and it affected negatively on your emotion / mental health.

The RT looks very grainy and blurry, compared to PC.
Not worth sacrificing the performance.

@NEStalgia
As of now we have 3 tiers in 'next gen'.
(The blessing and curse of console gaming - non upgradeable, set offerings, allowing less hassle and higher optimisation because of it).

Series S - Low
PS5/ Series X - Middle (Fanboys may try to convince you of a massive difference either way!)
PS5 PRO - High

This is not completely new though, and we have had various consoles of different ability in each gen - at least we are not back in the days of every console having completely different architecture - although switch 2 may change that I suppose, I dont know.

For consoles, the current gen started 4 years ago with the Low and mid tiers, and now we have an upper tier added. In 4 years time (probably) it will be time for the PS6 generation to start.

If you are a single ecosystem reporter ie Pushsquare, or player (eg due to games / libraries), and in the case of current gen so far even if multiformat, you literally have 4 years (or more for Xbox) between each new hardware you can write about to build revenue, read about, or buy - a 20th of the normal lifespan of a human.

So it is a massive event, whether people like it or not - if people dont like the new console, fine - if I dont like the PS6 because its not built around consigning sub 60fps to history then I will have plenty to say in the initial pieces on the new PS6 hardware, and the hardware launch review, and likely just move to PC - what I wont do, is comment on every Pushsquare article detailing individual games for the next few months to year asking them to stop writing articles about it.

When new PC hardware comes out, you often have multiple tiers released all at the same time, and it can be far more frequent an event particularly as you might get the new stack (is this the right term - I hear it on DF frequently) of GPUs one year, and CPUs the next, and the unusual occurence in consoles of companies releasing close together just isnt as much of a thing. There is no single format (yet...) - you can buy a new AMD CPU one year, pass on their GPUs and buy a new Nvidia one the next year. Its a completely different beast, which is handled completely differently.
Even then, when Nvidia launch their 5000 series, I would expect a flood of reviews and info for it on PC sites / media.

@Steel76 @Woods-PS
Im kind of feel like im flogging a dead horse at the moment, but I completely agree - Performance mode, uncapped, is where the real upgrade is for this game. I have 3 100% playthroughs, and a 4th is now likely this xmas!

@Zuljaras “I will try to not over post it, and someone make a meme about it”

Lol, nice one! 😂

@Rich33 It's not a massive event. It's the same exact console with a modest GPU upgrade for nearly double the price. Only in marketing-enhanced PlayStation Land is that a massive event.

Imagine if Nintendo Life had months of it's feed covered in mostly comprisons of how much better the SWOLED looked in every game. It's a similar level event. And similarly PXB doesn't have articles comparing every single game on S and X. Yeah they're milking it because it's new because they're milking the SEO. These articles aren't for the readership, they're for Google hits.

I would love to go back to this to see the pro enhancements but I’m holding out for the heavily rumored directors cut with 15 hours of new content

@NEStalgia Actually, they very much are for readers. These PS5 Pro articles aren’t setting the world on fire views-wise. We’re writing them because we’re a PlayStation-focused website covering a new PlayStation console launch.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Heres a novel idea : Click on the articles you want to read.
Those of us with a pro want to know how some of our fave old games are performing and the machine is less than a week old. Of course Push are going to cover it loads, its why we are here?
What we dont need is people like you clicking on articles they clearly dont want to read just to moan that the site doesnt cater exclusively to their interests.

Shame this is not a more appealing update, but I was never going to go back to this game anyway, so its no biggie for me.

@Dodoo The site is a PS5 site is it not? There has been nothing else put PRO, no new game news really, just better looking old games most people have played to death

@Titntin there are hardly any other articles though. No balance, just PRO old games.

@Areyouthatdumb yeah true but maybe there’s not been much other news? Either that or the writers are just a bit excited about the pro?

@LiamCroft Surprising to hear but good to know. Very surprising though that it would be all that popular. Personally though I'm not buying a 5 Pro, I did buy a 4 Pro, a SWOLED, a One X, and even as I bought all of those, individual game articles on enhancements like this would not at all have appealed to me, nor with GPU upgrades on PC, I'll check out the hardware reviews and comparisons, but not search for per-game differences one at a time like this. Can't imagine how it appeals to buyers or non buyers, but if it apparently does, I guess, yay.

@Areyouthatdumb Thats simply not true. I have no idea why you think anyone would believe that when we can all count front page articles ourselves?
As of posting this, there are 19 articles on the front page which are not pro performance articles.
Just read them?

I tried this with my Pro, and as much as I was excited to see the new fangled ray tracing, it's really hard to stick with a 30 FPS mode when you get over 60 FPS at 4K.

I used to be a Quality Mode guy but with Pro it seems like 60 FPS is the best way to go!

@Titntin No i don't read most of the articles, i have no interest in Pro articles as I play on a portal. I have no interest in developers telling me about there views on game lengths. No interest in price drops on tech i already own. No interest in whos been cast in a tv show. Just interested in new games not rehashed visuals on old games. I gave my opinion and its just as valid as yours, enjoy your evening

@Areyouthatdumb Your opinion was that there were nothing but pro articles on the website.
That is objectively not the case.
The fact that you are not interested in the vast bulk of articles doesnt make them all about the pro. You surely appreciate that the site needs to cater to all sorts of people and cant pandar to your very specific wants only, I would hope!
None the less., I shall hope you will see some articles that you do have an interest in. Hope you have a good day too.

My negativity towards the PS5 Pro comes from everyone acting like its doing something new. Like this post. "injects something new" when it genuinely doesn't 😂 The Pro is now entry/mid level PC cost territory. Doing things that entry level PCs do. Lets be real. £700 and having to pay PS store prices for games. Its time Sony dropped the price to PC level