@Th3solution I only played 3 out of all the games. And while you technically should play them all in order, i heard even when you play them all in order the story is hard to follow. So i probably missed some backstory things, but still enjoyed KH3 more than i thought it would. I always thought it looked a bit to family friendly for me, but the gameplay was actually fun and i enjoyed my time with it. One day i'll play 1.5 and 2.5, but my backlog is already so huge that i don't know where and when to fit them in hehe.
@Th3solution I played the first 3, as I'm 1, 2 and 3 because there is alot of games and 1, 2 and 3 is not the only order, there is alot of games in between that apparently make the story more connected.
I played them with my son, this was the main reason I played it, like jd said the story is just a mess I had no idea what was going on but the main part to play for is the characters and worlds you visit, the Disney and sqaure Enix characters make the game.
1.5 is a updated version on 1 so it's 1.5, 2.5 then 3 all the other games are old psp games I believe but updated to play on ps4 but 1.5 is old, its gameplay abd combat can be quite difficult at times but there fun games and actually quite challenging at times.
I'm by no means an expert and I'm sure that there's someone with way more knowledge than me on them but overall their fun and lighthearted games, 3 I particularly enjoyed.
@jdv95@Lavalera@MaulTsir Thanks for your input, my friends. I do wonder if playing those extra titles like Chain of Memories, Re:Coded, 358/2 Days, 2.8 Prologue, and Melody of Memory might add to the story and help I make more sense.
In actuality, I played a little of the first game, KH1, way back on PS2 I think it was. I didn’t end up spending much time on it and must have quickly sold it back, but I remember the game was okay. I think it was just like a fever dream though with Donald Duck and characters from Final Fantasy and it was all a bit weird. I’m still surprised that Disney greenlit the project with literally all their IP just allowed to be vomited into a game like this.
Given my stage of life back then, I probably was put off by the quirkinesses of it all. I must have thought myself ‘too cool’ to be playing a game with Goofy and Donald Duck, running around with a giant key for a weapon.
I moan a lot about my backlog, so the consideration of Kingdom Hearts is more of an academic question rather than a practical one; I honestly don’t think I’ll dive into it. But at this stage of my life I’m secure enough in my manhood that I don’t mind admitting I love Disney and some of these animated properties. Also I’ve loved Final Fantasy from my beginning days as a gamer. When I saw that the whole KHseries will drop into my lap from PS+ and suddenly there is no financial obstacle to trying it, I had to at least give it a few minutes of contemplation.
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I only played the third and, as others have stated, it made absolutely no sense on what was going on or why and I probably only became more confused as it went on. So I decided it was probably best not to worry about the plot and just enjoy the gameplay which was in all honesty pretty good. One thing worth mentioning though was that KH3 is largely based in more recent (for its time) Disney properties which I had never seen and so I probably missed a lot of the specific references as well. In that regard I may have enjoyed earlier games more as I might have related better with the characters and worlds they featured. So maybe factor that into your decision as well.
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@sorteddan That’s a good point. If I recall correctly, one of the first worlds in the original was Alice in Wonderland themed. I think maybe there was a Winnie the Pooh and then perhaps a Pirates of the Caribbean too…? I honestly can’t remember what I actually played versus what I have seen in trailers.
I’ve mostly kept up with Disney/Pixar output over the last 10 years, so I’m all up to date on things like The Good Dinosaur, Coco, Soul, Onward, Raya, etc. I have to admit, I’m curious how they integrate the different properties into one product. KH seems like it was a large multiverse before it was en vogue.
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@JohnnyShoulder Yeah, Chris is almost the anti-weeb. 😅 But I was so glad to see him play Yakuza LAD and really enjoy it.
I’m probably somewhere in the middle. I like quirky Japanese games sometimes, but I just can’t always follow their strange storytelling.
I’m surprised Disney even consented to have all their valuable IP put into a bonkers Japanese style game series. They must have a really big market in Japan.
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@Th3solution I'm might be more anti-weeb than Chris as I tried Judgement and I ended up not liking it at all. That has put me off trying Like a Dragon, as I've heard people have similar gripes with that game. I have zero interest in trying any of the previous Yakuza games at this point either.
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@JohnnyShoulder Yeah, and he even liked FF7R too and seems to be warm to FF16. Granted the modern FF games are quite westernized, but there’s something inherently Japanese there too. Yakuza (and I assume Judgment) is very Japanese. Y0 is the only game I’ve played with no English VA option.
I grew up on JRPGs and I used to like some anime from time to time, but now whenever they talk about One Piece or Naruto or Dragonball my brain just shuts off. I’m leaning more Western in my tastes as I’ve gotten older.
Some of my favorite games are Japanese developers doing Western style games though. Metal Gear Solid series/ Kojima games, Team Ico games, Resident Evil series, and of course now FromSoft games is entering my wheelhouse. Loved Nier Automata and very curious to see how Forspoken lands.
It’s funny because I think I’m least like Chris in my preferences because he loves Destiny and FPS, which I have a lot of trouble getting into and yet our favorite game of all time (or one of them) is the same — Shadow of the Colossus.
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This has got me thinking…
I think we all have a few unfair gaming preferences and prejudices. So, for some people, it’s an immediate turn-off if the game is, for example, turn-based or if it’s open-world; in contrast, for some people it’s immediately a must-buy if it’s a Marvel game or a certain franchise like Final Fantasy or Star Wars, or if it’s made by a certain developer like Naughty Dog or FromSoft.
Like, for me, I have trouble getting into first person perspective games. It’s not a complete no-go, but it has to be pretty enticing to get me over that prejudice. Same goes for 2D games. Can’t seem to get over my unfair bias against them and I skip a lot of good games because of it (I haven’t mustered the motivation to play Hollow Knight for example).
And on the flip-side, I give a lot of leeway if the game is story-driven. A lot of rubbish games get a pass from me because they have a compelling story. I also have inherent favoritism toward Sony first-party and for certain licenses and franchises like Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy, and Persona, for instance.
Weird how we all have unique tastes, isn’t it? 😅
Knowing one’s conscious and subconscious bias helps when determining what to play and what to recommend, but I’m constantly trying to overcome my own preconceived notions.
Apologies - Just some random end-of-week musings…. 🤔
@Th3solution I'm not a huge JRPG and don't play a great deal of them. I really enjoyed Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age and Final Fantasy 7 Remake but didn't like Dragon Quest XI from last gen. I was into watching Manga (stuff like Akira) in my late teens as one of my friends use to collect them and I do like most of Studio Ghibli's films. So there is a inner weeb in there somewhere. 😂
Life is more fun when you help people succeed, instead of wishing them to fail.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
@JudgeDredd My similar example - BioShock and BioShock Infinite. They’re amongst my all-time favorites, but are the dreaded first person shooter. But yeah, it’s good to leave the comfort zone from time to time as you might find a favorite laying there hidden in the weeds.
Another prejudice for me has been horror games. I really don’t care for the genre. But after pressing on with Resident Evil, I’ve actually found that I really like the series. I don’t think it will prompt me to start buying up every horror game now, but at least I am open to them a little more.
@JohnnyShoulder Embrace your inner-weeb! Your assignment is to play Persona 4 & 5 this weekend, followed by the Danganronpa series. 😜
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@nomither6 Moved the discussion here to avoid further derailing the Atomic Heart article.
Like I say, I’ll agree that multiplayer online competitive shooters, live service games, FPS in general, and I guess I could add fighting games (as I’m not sure we’ve seen a good first or second party fighter), are some of the voids in the Sony catalogue. But like I say, just like you’re giving Riot the benefit of the doubt for merely having a fighting game in development, give Sony a little leeway for at least trying their hand at online multiplayer, live service, and new FPS IPs that are currently in development at London studio, Firesprite, Haven, etc. There’s a good chance that Factions 2 will be high quality and will scratch your competitive online multiplayer itch, among others.
And I will have to disagree that there is much compelling about the microtransaction-ridden and heavy emphasis on F2P coming from Riot or Hi-Rez’s games, but that’s a personal choice. Maybe I need to try that Divine KnockOut since I have it from PS Plus but it didn’t seem worthwhile to me.
Have you tried Returnal? If you’re into kinetic bombastic shooters then it has some of the best gameplay out there. Stellar game (and many of the other games I listed on the article’s comment section are excellent but I can understand if you don’t care for slower paced artistic games or creative games.)
@Th3solution i haven’t played returnal it didn’t look interesting to me , especially since mass effect was free for a while , or is there something i’m missing and it’s a slept on gem ? does it do enough to distinguish itself from games similar to it , because the sci-fi shooter thing is another one that’s bloated as of late & there’s no multiplayer/co-op component to returnal either .
i mentioned riot and hi-rez for the simple fact of them dropping variety , the microtransactions and downsides of F2P wasn’t the point , but you’re right that i should give sony leeway and wait and see what they’re doing because something’s better then nothing
@nomither6 Oh yeah, buddy - Returnal is fantastic. I loved it, but it’s not going to be for everyone. I thought of it for you because it’s not narrative focused - I mean, there is a cool story, but it’s not very fleshed out and much less front-and-center compared to most Sony first party games. The real highlight of the game is the gameplay. It’s fast paced and can be pretty chaotic at times, kinda like DOOM or an MP arena shooter would be, with regard to the rapid pacing. Very little time with cutscenes or doing stuff you probably hate like crafting or messing with menus or skill trees. It’s just much more like a game where you’ll get straight into the action and start shooting enemies. It’s almost nothing like Mass Effect, despite it being Sci-Fi themed and both have some 3rd person shooting. Like I say, it feels closer to DOOM imo, but still quite different from that.
In fact the only precaution I’d have for you is that it’s a Rogue-like and so that may not click with some players. But I’m not really a fan of the Rogue-like genre and I grew to love Returnal. It can be quite a difficult game though, but I’m a very average player and probably even below average with shooters and I was able to beat the game and get the true ending.
Also some of the best DualSense features out there and stunning visuals and absolutely fantastic 3D audio.
And yes, it has a co-op mode now (added in a free DLC patch). Apparently when played in co-op it’s a bit easier.
It’s included in the PS+ Extra catalogue if you have that.
Regarding the variety of Riot and Hi-Rez, I do agree that these studios seem to really stretch their wings more than average, and do a large variety from FPS to card games to fighters, etc. It’s quite overwhelming though since almost everything from Riot has a League of Legends tie in.
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