@Neither_scene Neogaf has a thread up on the importance or lack theroff on PS Exclusives. Vast majority seem to feel those days are over. Reddit, even IconEra. Mosy console gamers tend to feel they aren't a big deal.
@LogicStrikesAgain No need to act trigged little one. If I sold an item in a store for $70, where I had not originally, that would be an added sale.
If I keep 70% ($49) and the store keeps 30% ($21), I have just made money. If selling in that store, as compared to not before, is making money. Is $49 per sale, compared to $0 not a profit? If I am making $49 per sale, now with additional sales coming in... Is that not "making bank"? Am I losing money? If I keep 49 and the store owner gets $21, he's still making more money than me each time?
@nomither6 I'm hoping it's play anywhere lol. I haven't checked, I think all 1st party are though.
What would be sweet is if in the future the program offered either PC/XBOX or PC/PS5. That would definitely be a "good guy" move lol. I highly doubt Sony would would allow it though.
Also, dang, I never realized how popular or wanted their titles actually were. They really could have done better in the grand scheme of things, just shows they really wanted to drop hardware all together. They probably would have years ago if they could have.
@MightyDemon82 Funny you mention reading. Tiktok used to waste my time last year. Now though, it has helped me find great books lol. I am like most here, an adult, and I think gaming just doesn't have the wow factor anymore. Fun hobby, I like to stay up to date on it. Nothing wrong with it at all for those who live and breathe it. Reading, hiking, and trying my hand at piano (poorly) are what I end up doing a lot.
@ilyn I won't disagree there, it'd be smart of them to actually promote it a bunch more. Idk the numbers for those that utilize it, but it does seem to be pretty popular. A few outlets, as well as Xbox Wire, mention that the program itself has been growing.
Added 100+ new titles to the list in 2025 alone. It's sitting at just shy of 1,700 now. Since it is optional for the devs the fact it's growing shows me it's doing just fine. Devs talk and work with each other, they'd probably all drop it if it hurt them.
I love steam, cheap as heck during the sales. However, if all games were BOGO on Xbox play anywhere, i'd probably never use steam again lol.
D4 is a great example, if feel it's one of a handleful though. Iirc, it's keyboard and mouse on console too.
I agree with the game pass increase being the day one games. 100%.
And as a green leaning gamer, I'll stand firm that it's purely idiotic. I love they tried to make it a thing, cool, but it's a failure. Day 1 "free" for a product that needs early full price sales is just completely dumb.
My point is $9.99 GPCore- 50+ games, cloud streaming, online play, discounts... That's a great deal still.
The Ultimate for $30 bucks has way too much on offer. Plain and simple. Like a Disney Park day pass lol. Too expensive, most things won't be touched.
@MrPeanutbutterz I think he means the targeted demographic. IDK anything about the Switch 2, I know the Switch 1 was underwhelming in the performance dept.
THAT is the difference. Sony DID say themselves that Nintendo shouldnt be included in charts, during the Acti/Blizz scenario. MSFT having the pie charts kind of hurt Sonys talking points.
Anyway... The reality is that if you want to play 4k 120fps "Elden Ring 2" or GTA6, you're only affordable option will be Sony.
That's the concern I've seen online. Yes Nintendo, yes PC. If you want "Premium Console", it'll have to be a PS5 or PS6. That's what he's alluding to.
@dskatter I was a big supporter when they started. Idk if many Vita collectors are on here, but LRG was our savior back then lol. Iirc I got my Yomawari collector edition through them. I forget.
@carlos82 I still have good pile of 360 titles, wish more were capable of PC emulation.
N64 emulation has been insane. Playing though some of the Zelda titles now. Forget the plug in ( Mueipens maybe), one of them works with Marty's mods. Haven't done so, but a post RTX mod is available. Looks crazy.
@carlos82 I know 2 that have bought Xbox Series X, both were used, but still.
They did it for the play anywhere. That's the only way I buy games for my Xbox now. Single purchase, and get 2 copies. 1 on Xbox, one on PC.
Id say that if you are a PC MAIN, then an XBOX wouldn't be a bad choice.
PC only titles (300k on steam compared to 10kish on ps5, Xbox Titles (Play anywhere), and PS titles.
If you look at it as a EXTENSION it's not a bad buy. Alone though? No... I also think Gamepass is TOO bloated. $30 bucks gets you many things, but allows access to 896? Games. Gut that, and make it cheap again.
@AllHailSony Not defending MSFT here, but how did you come to that?
MSFT are making bank selling on PS now? They'd suffer themseves by doing that.
MSFT did invest heavily into OPEN AI, who did buy up 40% of the RAM. So they kind of helped cause the mess, but not as some Combra Comander 4D chess play. Just greed leading to a crap outcome.
@LogicStrikesAgain I'm always careful to not a be snob about the audio and visual, just passionate. On further thought yeah you might be right. They aren't as they were before, but they aren't out yet. So ok I can agree there maybe in time? Who knows. When this gen launched, I was one who felt Xbox was locked in. They oozed this confidence, misplaced apparently l but they had it.
I don't want to see them disappear, but they e done it to themselves. Forza? Eh ok, Gears remaster? I guess if needed Halo? Wtf... It is what it is, but those three were kinda all they had anymore. Ill keep my series x as a reminder of days gone by. It's still nice to have. I do pick up a game here and there, mainly the buy anywhere titles, or something that's a buck or two.
I think MSFT could make their vision work. They need to be clear what it is though.
Don't want to sell a console? Want me to use your "service" then? Then make it worthwhile.
They are trying to many things at once, and I just don't know how it'll end, or if they even know.
@Nep-Nep-Freak Yeah the costs are crap now. I wouldn't get dismayed too much. Newegg.com still has bundles going on.
This Mother board and Ram bundle is only $240. It's one of the best reviewed motherboards, and 32gb of ram. Normally a MOBO is going to be $100 min. So this is a pretty dang good deal. If snag it, but my rig isn't even 2 years old now.
@LogicStrikesAgain I agree with the exclusive statements about the many companies you listed. I'd only conter with "look at their industries". Those examles each have countless competitors. Spotify doesn't have 1 main competitor, like Sony vs Xbox. They have Apple, Deezer, Pandora,tidal, etc. Same with Fast food. McDonald's sells fries,big whoop, but they need them to be GOOD compared to BK, Jack in the Box.
Good examples you used, but those industries have way more competitors than the home console market. With gaming I don't feel it needs to be that "necessary" as maybe before. Xbox 2025, is a shell, and handing them GOW, Horizon, Spider man, wouldn't change anything.
Side note, as a purist, I actually wish Netflix and others had dedicated hardware. Streaming movies, is a good reason why I don't see cloud gaming being worth it. At least right now. Netflix will say it's 4k and Dolby Atmos blah blah. It's not though. It's barely at a point to not get sued for false advertisement.
I wince when I see people who by OLED tvs, and then only stream movies. That's like buying a PS5 Pro, to play only PS2 titles. The compression alone when streaming is a sadly overlooked thing. I use them, but will buy my favorites on disc. If you spend $2000 or more on a OLED or any TV, THEN only stream, you've completely wasted money.
Long rant, my bad. I wish the gaming sphere had more console options honestly. Then yeah, more competition, better reason for exclusives. And with streaming (again random), I wish it was like a company called Kalaidascape. The hardware gives you access to the movies.
This allowed them to offer the most uncompresed VOD ever offered. The hardware allows for DRM the Studios felt comfy with, and you can now stream or buy studio master copies.
The consoles do have the ability to really shine at the end of the gen, and when the devs are getting the hang of the dev kits. So these games will only getting better.
I'm telling myself that these situations, are the universe telling me to stop spending money, and finally hit my back log. Steam and gog still tempt me. Lucky to have what I have, and can't see a reason to go for more hardware anytime soon.
@aethermath I think this will make the PS5 PRO the defacto "sweet spot". I don't own a PS5 but if it's going to have such a long life span now I might a well.
PC gaming can be cheap honestly, BUT you now have to make some hard choices. Before not so much. I love PC, but still tell most I know, who don't game online, to just grab a console. I told a guy to jus grab a PS4 Pro last month too. His sister wanted $100 bucks for it, it was a no brainer.
@nomither6 Im playing Majora's Mask myself lol. I can't stand Retroarch though. That's a lot of why I enjoy PC. "One box o rule them all" lol.
Like some have said above, a future with a single box wouldn't be bad. Sony and MSFT could easily share profits 50/50. It'll never happen, but I don't see it being a terrible thing. Sony we're going to with Nintendo anyways at first.
That's why I think steam machines will do great this time. Console with PC benefits, and with Proton now, it finally "has games". Proton is what the first attempt was missing.
Who knows. 2000 to 2025, has seen some incredible changes in tech and landscape. Excited/worried for the future, and can't decide which I am lol.
Gamepass was beating PS Now, and Sony rolled it and PLUS together. Before then, Gamepass was at, idk 15 million, and PS Now was at 3 million? Not a "dunk", just saying it did and does have legs.
It's popular, but the math is idiotic. At $10 bucks a month, with 100 games ONLY, it made sense. Now though? No... At $30 a month, with over 500 games, Id be stealing from them.
That's $0.06 a game per month. Yes I know that no one will be playing that much, it's just shocking that they feel that's doable.
No 1st party titles, and less games for even cheaper, would be smarter. 100 Indies for $5 a month? I'd never drop the service tbh.
With Xbox conoles, I don't want them to disapear either. I enjoy both, but love Xbox controllers and UI. I still see them coming out with at least one more, but it won't be subsidized. The ram prices will cost the consumer, and MSFT probably aren't going to eat any of it this time. I agree that they will end up as just an app or front end, but it'll be a while.
@nomither6 I'm curious what this 5 to 6 gen migration will be. I can't think of a time when SOOOO many games were cross gen. I'm curious if the cross gen state is going to make adoption even worse/slower than this last time.
@Deadlyblack Dang lol. I went on Newegg, and found some matching 8gb (no name) sticks, for dirt cheap. Once you aim for brand name, you're screwed. Even the cheap stuff is finally shooting up. Oh well.
@UnlimitedSevens The problem I see is that NO ONE can do it. No one can enter the game really. Amazon and Google both tried. They decided up front that hardware isn't worth the hassle, so chose streaming. If Google, Amazon, and MSFT, aren't going to bother then no one will.
Apple tried, doubt they ever will again. Plus Apple TV is already a little console. I can steam link to it, and play Apple Arcade. Valve is now entering, but at a terrible time.
I truthfully cannot fathom any other company entering the race. The start up, marketing, R&D, Staffing... It's in the 100s of billions just to start. No company will bother, let alone be able to afford that.
@Weebleman I think you're points are all valid. I see that ultimately Xbox was reigned in though. Remember, it was only a few years ago, that Xbox was even included in "Board meetings. Legit look it up, Spencer was super happy and announced it a few years ( maybe 4? Ago).
So until recently, Xbox was basically it's own little thing. The Activision bouyout was the end of that. Like a spouse, seeing the others idiotic purchases.
A lot of their initial plays were to unify PC and Console. Gamepass was (at first) a neat gameplay.
Natella and the accountants seem to have seen the progress vs spending, and put their foot down.
Xbox was always a "spare room" in MSFTs castle. PS is the main family room, and was kept up/focused on more.
I don't think the PC push was so bad actually. Considering Sonys push hasn't really hurt console sales. However I DO think 1st party day one on gamepass was idiotic beyond belief.
@UnlimitedSevens I think MSFT truly do not care anymore. I think they can clearly see that selling on PS, PC, and Switch will make them the most money. It's a bummer to see it end like this, but what ever.
I'm genuinely curious about a "No Xbox" future.
Like I wonder... What will Journalists write about? More PS vs PC comparisons? Who will gamers "Dunk" on, what is Sony going to charge for future hardware? Xbox was screwed over by suits, plain and simple.
All I see is a crummy future for gaming. Sucks honestly. A lot of people enjoy the competition. Xbox screwed themselves, and it's going to be pretty boring/ pricey future for a lot of gamers.
@get2sammyb Damn. A lot of grumpy people this afternoon. Thanks for taking the time to write this man. Even if some aren't thrilled about the calculations, I appreciate the wite up.
@BAMozzy It's taking a sales hit for sure, but I agree, it's still a "big" seller. I was going to mention that even BF6 was half off too. Physical only, through Gamestop US. Still though, surprising to see it. Not a fan myself anymore. I just felt the hate online MAY have actually hurt it. Guess not then.
That region of the U.S. holds a lot of significance, for many across the country. Here in the Pacific Northwest, MANY of us see it as a very alien place. Environment is so dang different, but so similar in the mystique.
English and French history galore, where up here its English and Russian. The folklore up here from the Natives, and the Russians is beautiful. The Folklore they have down there seems just as rich and interesting. I haven't played it yet, but the music and art alone have been a big draw. The inspiration and setting are so different from many other games.
@GamingGod Halo was kind of the first game that proved FPS could be a hit on console. It wasn't the first, but it showed that PC didn't have to be the home of them. It also truly popularized online MP. 1,2, and 3 really did a lot for gaming in general.
I don't know a single person who owned a Xbox OG, or 360 who didn't own at least one Halo Game.
Youtube has a ton of short vids on why Halo was such an important game.
It coming over honestly is a big deal. It truly signals that Microsoft truly doesn't care about Xbox anymore.
@graymamba Some are simply discussing things. You seem to be doing nothing but act like a jerk. Maybe chill man. These are just video games, legit toys.
@graymamba Meh. Could have a special deal in place tbh. Xbox made a deal with GameStop before, ensuring a cut of software sales. They did it to make sure the all digital S was sold in store. So even 5 years later now GameStop is still getting money from consoles it has sold for Xbox.
They could maybe set up another deal along those lines. Steam might be open to it.
@SuperYlvis I agree with your stance on Microsoft. I don't own a ps5, but will fully praise it. Great hardware and games, and Sony did a great job marketing it. It deserves its success.
I will also state that they have to thank MSFT leadership as well. Xbox seemed to want to compete, but it's very clear they've been "taken over" by MSFT leadership. Phil and them are just mouthpieces now.
MSFT gave up. Sony did well, but it's a win by the other team forfeiting.
So anyone with a clear sense of the future WOULD be "forced", have no real option aside from Sony. I think your statement is pretty spot on, sucks so many took issue with it.
Yes Xbox still exists, NO you're not forced to buy PS5. A lot here, seem to be in a pretty pedantic/argumentative mood today.
Good job sony: The competition gave up, so "Winning" to a certain extent only.
God, I can't imagine how bad the sales numbers for the next Xbox are going to be. I don't think they'll even bother with some markets, maybe leave some altogether.
What would impressive numers be? If the Next Xbox is $1000 or more?
700 a week at $500-600 each is sad. 700 a week at a MSRP of $1000? Would that be impressive?
@Stevemalkpus I figured it was them, a lot of people lately have been aiming at MSFT for owning a big stake in Open AI. Same boat I suppose.
Tragically the US government is just a puppet to corporations now. I know that makes me sound like a tin foil hat guy, I know lol.
Until the 1950s the corporate tax rate here was roughly 70% iirc. Now? It's like 26% with more write off/tax loophole you could ever count. We used to walk in a break up monopolies constantly. AT&T, and three others came out of a big beak up the US Gov. Forced. Now though? Companies get what they want. All Open AI has to do, is slide an envelope over the tab, and no one will stop them.
Perfect example, is our military. When I was in the Army the old timers, and a lot of higher ups, put it bluntly. We are everywhere now, not for peace, but for business. Are promise of protection, gets US companies favorable deals.
It's just business, and no one in the Gov, is immune to a nice sack O' Cash. Even if they did "force rationing", they couldn't make it fair. Hundreds of thousands of US based companies need ram. Who gets what percentage? I'd love to see it happen, but it won't.
@Northern_munkey In the U.S. sure, if you don't mind having debt forever. Idk everything about the healthcare setup in the U.K. in truth, but id say you are waaaaay better off.
I get it's not amazing, and has a ton of red tape or wait times. If you want to love it though, look up costs here in the states lol.
A typical bill for having a baby? Around $20,000. Some can be 30k.
Ambulance bills... Idk if you have to pay for them, we do. The bill for a "Woo Woo Wagon, is some times worse than the ER bill.
3 years ago, had a ambulance take me from work, to the nearby hospital. A 17 mile drive mind you, and I was stuck paying $900 out of pocket. That's after insurance knocked it down from $2400.
Random venting on my part. Still. It's a double edged sword. Yeah Long life, but a long life of bills that only get bigger and happen more often.
@SeaDaVie I'm just a few years shy of the same age. I think at this age gaming in general has taken a back burner to life. I still have my launch Series X. But it's just a thing on my myshlf now. I think the PS5 has done great, I never bought one though. I think the Xbox failures, and the way the industry has changed has just turned me off to gaming a bunch.
I think age was a bigger thing for me honestly. Everyone I know around our age still games ton. I just ended up focusing on other hobbies more.
I'm hoping to snag a PS5 down the road, it's very clear it's a great system to most here. Just need to balance my hobbies a bit more.
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Re: Fable Is 'Understood' to Be Coming to PS5, Says New Report
@Neither_scene Neogaf has a thread up on the importance or lack theroff on PS Exclusives. Vast majority seem to feel those days are over. Reddit, even IconEra. Mosy console gamers tend to feel they aren't a big deal.
Re: Fable Is 'Understood' to Be Coming to PS5, Says New Report
@Neither_scene oh be careful snakes and anime will hunt you.
Re: Xbox Exclusive RPG Avowed Is Coming to PS5 in February with Major New Features
@LogicStrikesAgain chill man. Don't get upset. I read some of the first sentence you wrote. Idk if the rest was good.
Re: Xbox Exclusive RPG Avowed Is Coming to PS5 in February with Major New Features
@Oram77 Did I? I don't remember stating that? Could you show me?
Re: Xbox Exclusive RPG Avowed Is Coming to PS5 in February with Major New Features
@LogicStrikesAgain No need to act trigged little one. If I sold an item in a store for $70, where I had not originally, that would be an added sale.
If I keep 70% ($49) and the store keeps 30% ($21), I have just made money. If selling in that store, as compared to not before, is making money.
Is $49 per sale, compared to $0 not a profit? If I am making $49 per sale, now with additional sales coming in... Is that not "making bank"? Am I losing money? If I keep 49 and the store owner gets $21, he's still making more money than me each time?
Re: Xbox Exclusive RPG Avowed Is Coming to PS5 in February with Major New Features
Damn dude, Xbox is making a killing off of sony lol.
Re: Big Updates on Massive Xbox Games, Bound for PS5, Later This Month
@nomither6 I'm hoping it's play anywhere lol. I haven't checked, I think all 1st party are though.
What would be sweet is if in the future the program offered either PC/XBOX or PC/PS5. That would definitely be a "good guy" move lol. I highly doubt Sony would would allow it though.
Also, dang, I never realized how popular or wanted their titles actually were. They really could have done better in the grand scheme of things, just shows they really wanted to drop hardware all together. They probably would have years ago if they could have.
Re: PS5's Hyperpop Collection Adds Three Striking New Colours for DualSense, Console Covers
I hate red. So no to that. The bue is too light, Navy blue for the win. Green ones not to bad though.
I'm just not a fan of "Baby Boy Blue" color types.
Re: You'll Never Guess the Most Played PS5, PS4 Games of 2025 in the US
@AhmadSumadi Planetside 2 did that for me lol. Probably spent $300 or more on that game. 8ish years sunk into it.
Re: You'll Never Guess the Most Played PS5, PS4 Games of 2025 in the US
@MightyDemon82 Funny you mention reading. Tiktok used to waste my time last year. Now though, it has helped me find great books lol. I am like most here, an adult, and I think gaming just doesn't have the wow factor anymore. Fun hobby, I like to stay up to date on it. Nothing wrong with it at all for those who live and breathe it. Reading, hiking, and trying my hand at piano (poorly) are what I end up doing a lot.
Re: You'll Never Guess the Most Played PS5, PS4 Games of 2025 in the US
@datamonkey with the amount of PS4 and PS5s out in the world, it mainly shows we're the minority. Nothing to do with "Good Taste".
Re: Xbox Sales Hit New Low in UK, Barely Competes with PS5 at This Point
@ilyn I won't disagree there, it'd be smart of them to actually promote it a bunch more. Idk the numbers for those that utilize it, but it does seem to be pretty popular. A few outlets, as well as Xbox Wire, mention that the program itself has been growing.
Added 100+ new titles to the list in 2025 alone. It's sitting at just shy of 1,700 now. Since it is optional for the devs the fact it's growing shows me it's doing just fine. Devs talk and work with each other, they'd probably all drop it if it hurt them.
I love steam, cheap as heck during the sales. However, if all games were BOGO on Xbox play anywhere, i'd probably never use steam again lol.
D4 is a great example, if feel it's one of a handleful though. Iirc, it's keyboard and mouse on console too.
I agree with the game pass increase being the day one games. 100%.
And as a green leaning gamer, I'll stand firm that it's purely idiotic. I love they tried to make it a thing, cool, but it's a failure. Day 1 "free" for a product that needs early full price sales is just completely dumb.
My point is $9.99 GPCore- 50+ games, cloud streaming, online play, discounts... That's a great deal still.
The Ultimate for $30 bucks has way too much on offer. Plain and simple. Like a Disney Park day pass lol. Too expensive, most things won't be touched.
Re: Xbox Sales Hit New Low in UK, Barely Competes with PS5 at This Point
@MrPeanutbutterz I think he means the targeted demographic. IDK anything about the Switch 2, I know the Switch 1 was underwhelming in the performance dept.
THAT is the difference. Sony DID say themselves that Nintendo shouldnt be included in charts, during the Acti/Blizz scenario. MSFT having the pie charts kind of hurt Sonys talking points.
Anyway... The reality is that if you want to play 4k 120fps "Elden Ring 2" or GTA6, you're only affordable option will be Sony.
That's the concern I've seen online. Yes Nintendo, yes PC. If you want "Premium Console", it'll have to be a PS5 or PS6. That's what he's alluding to.
Re: You'll Soon Be Able to Own Former Xbox Exclusive Hi-Fi Rush Physically on PS5
@dskatter I was a big supporter when they started. Idk if many Vita collectors are on here, but LRG was our savior back then lol. Iirc I got my Yomawari collector edition through them. I forget.
Either way best luck to all that order it.
Re: Xbox Sales Hit New Low in UK, Barely Competes with PS5 at This Point
@carlos82 I still have good pile of 360 titles, wish more were capable of PC emulation.
N64 emulation has been insane. Playing though some of the Zelda titles now. Forget the plug in ( Mueipens maybe), one of them works with Marty's mods. Haven't done so, but a post RTX mod is available. Looks crazy.
Re: Xbox Sales Hit New Low in UK, Barely Competes with PS5 at This Point
@carlos82 I know 2 that have bought Xbox Series X, both were used, but still.
They did it for the play anywhere. That's the only way I buy games for my Xbox now. Single purchase, and get 2 copies. 1 on Xbox, one on PC.
Id say that if you are a PC MAIN, then an XBOX wouldn't be a bad choice.
PC only titles (300k on steam compared to 10kish on ps5, Xbox Titles (Play anywhere), and PS titles.
If you look at it as a EXTENSION it's not a bad buy. Alone though? No... I also think Gamepass is TOO bloated. $30 bucks gets you many things, but allows access to 896? Games. Gut that, and make it cheap again.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Could Be Delayed Due to RAM Price Chaos
@AllHailSony Not defending MSFT here, but how did you come to that?
MSFT are making bank selling on PS now? They'd suffer themseves by doing that.
MSFT did invest heavily into OPEN AI, who did buy up 40% of the RAM. So they kind of helped cause the mess, but not as some Combra Comander 4D chess play. Just greed leading to a crap outcome.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes Exclusives Make Consoles 'Sing'
@LogicStrikesAgain I'm always careful to not a be snob about the audio and visual, just passionate. On further thought yeah you might be right. They aren't as they were before, but they aren't out yet. So ok I can agree there maybe in time? Who knows. When this gen launched, I was one who felt Xbox was locked in. They oozed this confidence, misplaced apparently l but they had it.
I don't want to see them disappear, but they e done it to themselves. Forza? Eh ok, Gears remaster? I guess if needed Halo? Wtf... It is what it is, but those three were kinda all they had anymore. Ill keep my series x as a reminder of days gone by. It's still nice to have. I do pick up a game here and there, mainly the buy anywhere titles, or something that's a buck or two.
I think MSFT could make their vision work. They need to be clear what it is though.
Don't want to sell a console? Want me to use your "service" then? Then make it worthwhile.
They are trying to many things at once, and I just don't know how it'll end, or if they even know.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Could Be Delayed Due to RAM Price Chaos
@Nep-Nep-Freak Yeah the costs are crap now. I wouldn't get dismayed too much. Newegg.com still has bundles going on.
This Mother board and Ram bundle is only $240. It's one of the best reviewed motherboards, and 32gb of ram. Normally a MOBO is going to be $100 min. So this is a pretty dang good deal. If snag it, but my rig isn't even 2 years old now.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4848369&cm_sp=product-combooption
This was found in less than a minute. RAM pries are high, but the media is is making it sound apocalyptic simply for clicks.
I'm not saying it's cheap, but it's not unaffordable if you save and shop a little more.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes Exclusives Make Consoles 'Sing'
@LogicStrikesAgain I agree with the exclusive statements about the many companies you listed. I'd only conter with "look at their industries". Those examles each have countless competitors. Spotify doesn't have 1 main competitor, like Sony vs Xbox. They have Apple, Deezer, Pandora,tidal, etc. Same with Fast food. McDonald's sells fries,big whoop, but they need them to be GOOD compared to BK, Jack in the Box.
Good examples you used, but those industries have way more competitors than the home console market.
With gaming I don't feel it needs to be that "necessary" as maybe before. Xbox 2025, is a shell, and handing them GOW, Horizon, Spider man, wouldn't change anything.
Side note, as a purist, I actually wish Netflix and others had dedicated hardware. Streaming movies, is a good reason why I don't see cloud gaming being worth it. At least right now. Netflix will say it's 4k and Dolby Atmos blah blah. It's not though. It's barely at a point to not get sued for false advertisement.
I wince when I see people who by OLED tvs, and then only stream movies. That's like buying a PS5 Pro, to play only PS2 titles. The compression alone when streaming is a sadly overlooked thing. I use them, but will buy my favorites on disc. If you spend $2000 or more on a OLED or any TV, THEN only stream, you've completely wasted money.
Long rant, my bad. I wish the gaming sphere had more console options honestly. Then yeah, more competition, better reason for exclusives. And with streaming (again random), I wish it was like a company called Kalaidascape. The hardware gives you access to the movies.
This allowed them to offer the most uncompresed VOD ever offered. The hardware allows for DRM the Studios felt comfy with, and you can now stream or buy studio master copies.
ADHD rant over lol.
Re: PS6 Could Be Delayed Due to RAM Price Chaos
@nomither6 For sure.
The consoles do have the ability to really shine at the end of the gen, and when the devs are getting the hang of the dev kits. So these games will only getting better.
I'm telling myself that these situations, are the universe telling me to stop spending money, and finally hit my back log. Steam and gog still tempt me. Lucky to have what I have, and can't see a reason to go for more hardware anytime soon.
Re: PS6 Could Be Delayed Due to RAM Price Chaos
@aethermath I think this will make the PS5 PRO the defacto "sweet spot". I don't own a PS5 but if it's going to have such a long life span now I might a well.
PC gaming can be cheap honestly, BUT you now have to make some hard choices. Before not so much. I love PC, but still tell most I know, who don't game online, to just grab a console. I told a guy to jus grab a PS4 Pro last month too. His sister wanted $100 bucks for it, it was a no brainer.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes Exclusives Make Consoles 'Sing'
@nomither6 Im playing Majora's Mask myself lol. I can't stand Retroarch though. That's a lot of why I enjoy PC. "One box o rule them all" lol.
Like some have said above, a future with a single box wouldn't be bad. Sony and MSFT could easily share profits 50/50. It'll never happen, but I don't see it being a terrible thing. Sony we're going to with Nintendo anyways at first.
That's why I think steam machines will do great this time. Console with PC benefits, and with Proton now, it finally "has games". Proton is what the first attempt was missing.
Who knows. 2000 to 2025, has seen some incredible changes in tech and landscape. Excited/worried for the future, and can't decide which I am lol.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes Exclusives Make Consoles 'Sing'
@Weebleman Good post.
Rushed reply:
Gamepass was beating PS Now, and Sony rolled it and PLUS together. Before then, Gamepass was at, idk 15 million, and PS Now was at 3 million? Not a "dunk", just saying it did and does have legs.
It's popular, but the math is idiotic. At $10 bucks a month, with 100 games ONLY, it made sense. Now though? No... At $30 a month, with over 500 games, Id be stealing from them.
That's $0.06 a game per month. Yes I know that no one will be playing that much, it's just shocking that they feel that's doable.
No 1st party titles, and less games for even cheaper, would be smarter. 100 Indies for $5 a month? I'd never drop the service tbh.
With Xbox conoles, I don't want them to disapear either. I enjoy both, but love Xbox controllers and UI. I still see them coming out with at least one more, but it won't be subsidized. The ram prices will cost the consumer, and MSFT probably aren't going to eat any of it this time. I agree that they will end up as just an app or front end, but it'll be a while.
Re: PS6 Could Be Delayed Due to RAM Price Chaos
@nomither6 I'm curious what this 5 to 6 gen migration will be. I can't think of a time when SOOOO many games were cross gen. I'm curious if the cross gen state is going to make adoption even worse/slower than this last time.
Re: PS6 Could Be Delayed Due to RAM Price Chaos
@Deadlyblack Dang lol. I went on Newegg, and found some matching 8gb (no name) sticks, for dirt cheap. Once you aim for brand name, you're screwed. Even the cheap stuff is finally shooting up. Oh well.
Re: PS6 Could Be Delayed Due to RAM Price Chaos
@Deadlyblack Did you go for DDR5?
I went with Corsair LPX Vengeance, 3200hz, 32gb, DDR4.
It was $60 back in April 2024. Now that same kit is $160-$175. So it's jumped, but not a "Ton".
Re: PS6 Could Be Delayed Due to RAM Price Chaos
I see it happening. If you go and spend the time looking, p can still get RAM for a decent price.
That's a one off though. I had to be very specific when hunting. I can't see a large amount being scooped up so cheaply.
So yeah it'll probably postpone a lot for a lot of companies.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes Exclusives Make Consoles 'Sing'
@UnlimitedSevens The problem I see is that NO ONE can do it. No one can enter the game really. Amazon and Google both tried. They decided up front that hardware isn't worth the hassle, so chose streaming. If Google, Amazon, and MSFT, aren't going to bother then no one will.
Apple tried, doubt they ever will again. Plus Apple TV is already a little console. I can steam link to it, and play Apple Arcade. Valve is now entering, but at a terrible time.
I truthfully cannot fathom any other company entering the race. The start up, marketing, R&D, Staffing... It's in the 100s of billions just to start. No company will bother, let alone be able to afford that.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes Exclusives Make Consoles 'Sing'
@Weebleman I think you're points are all valid. I see that ultimately Xbox was reigned in though. Remember, it was only a few years ago, that Xbox was even included in "Board meetings. Legit look it up, Spencer was super happy and announced it a few years ( maybe 4? Ago).
So until recently, Xbox was basically it's own little thing. The Activision bouyout was the end of that. Like a spouse, seeing the others idiotic purchases.
A lot of their initial plays were to unify PC and Console. Gamepass was (at first) a neat gameplay.
Natella and the accountants seem to have seen the progress vs spending, and put their foot down.
Xbox was always a "spare room" in MSFTs castle. PS is the main family room, and was kept up/focused on more.
I don't think the PC push was so bad actually. Considering Sonys push hasn't really hurt console sales. However I DO think 1st party day one on gamepass was idiotic beyond belief.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes Exclusives Make Consoles 'Sing'
@UnlimitedSevens I think MSFT truly do not care anymore. I think they can clearly see that selling on PS, PC, and Switch will make them the most money. It's a bummer to see it end like this, but what ever.
I'm genuinely curious about a "No Xbox" future.
Like I wonder... What will Journalists write about? More PS vs PC comparisons? Who will gamers "Dunk" on, what is Sony going to charge for future hardware? Xbox was screwed over by suits, plain and simple.
All I see is a crummy future for gaming. Sucks honestly. A lot of people enjoy the competition. Xbox screwed themselves, and it's going to be pretty boring/ pricey future for a lot of gamers.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes Exclusives Make Consoles 'Sing'
Kind of yeah. I decided against getting a PS5, because the games are all coming to PC. So that's where I game.
Re: Your PS Plus Essential Sub Netted You $1,500+ in PS5, PS4 Games This Year
@get2sammyb Damn. A lot of grumpy people this afternoon. Thanks for taking the time to write this man. Even if some aren't thrilled about the calculations, I appreciate the wite up.
Re: Starfield PS5 Announcement Imminent as Bethesda Shows Big Changes Behind-the-Scenes
I'm curious as to how many will be excited in the comments lol. So many dunk on Xbox games, and then later act excited.
Re: Nov 2025 USA Sales: Black Ops 7 Is the Month's Bestseller, But Struggles to Meet Call of Duty Standards
@BAMozzy It's taking a sales hit for sure, but I agree, it's still a "big" seller. I was going to mention that even BF6 was half off too. Physical only, through Gamestop US. Still though, surprising to see it. Not a fan myself anymore. I just felt the hate online MAY have actually hurt it. Guess not then.
Re: PS5 Players Will Want to Watch Xbox's Developer Direct, Confirmed for January
Dang lol. A lot of love for Xbox games now, huh guys? Lol.
Re: Xbox Game South of Midnight Comes to PS5 Next Year
That region of the U.S. holds a lot of significance, for many across the country. Here in the Pacific Northwest, MANY of us see it as a very alien place. Environment is so dang different, but so similar in the mystique.
English and French history galore, where up here its English and Russian. The folklore up here from the Natives, and the Russians is beautiful. The Folklore they have down there seems just as rich and interesting. I haven't played it yet, but the music and art alone have been a big draw. The inspiration and setting are so different from many other games.
Re: Sony Hypes Halo PS5 in Its Hot Games of 2026 Trailer
@GamingGod Halo was kind of the first game that proved FPS could be a hit on console. It wasn't the first, but it showed that PC didn't have to be the home of them. It also truly popularized online MP. 1,2, and 3 really did a lot for gaming in general.
I don't know a single person who owned a Xbox OG, or 360 who didn't own at least one Halo Game.
Youtube has a ton of short vids on why Halo was such an important game.
It coming over honestly is a big deal. It truly signals that Microsoft truly doesn't care about Xbox anymore.
Re: PS5 Dominates USA and UK on Black Friday, Comfortably Outsells All Its Rivals
@graymamba Some are simply discussing things. You seem to be doing nothing but act like a jerk. Maybe chill man. These are just video games, legit toys.
Re: PS5 Dominates USA and UK on Black Friday, Comfortably Outsells All Its Rivals
@graymamba Meh. Could have a special deal in place tbh. Xbox made a deal with GameStop before, ensuring a cut of software sales. They did it to make sure the all digital S was sold in store. So even 5 years later now GameStop is still getting money from consoles it has sold for Xbox.
They could maybe set up another deal along those lines. Steam might be open to it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/xbox-deal-with-gamestop-includes-revenue-share-on-digital-sales-2020-10
Re: PS5 Dominates USA and UK on Black Friday, Comfortably Outsells All Its Rivals
@SuperYlvis I agree with your stance on Microsoft. I don't own a ps5, but will fully praise it. Great hardware and games, and Sony did a great job marketing it. It deserves its success.
I will also state that they have to thank MSFT leadership as well. Xbox seemed to want to compete, but it's very clear they've been "taken over" by MSFT leadership. Phil and them are just mouthpieces now.
MSFT gave up. Sony did well, but it's a win by the other team forfeiting.
So anyone with a clear sense of the future WOULD be "forced", have no real option aside from Sony. I think your statement is pretty spot on, sucks so many took issue with it.
Yes Xbox still exists, NO you're not forced to buy PS5. A lot here, seem to be in a pretty pedantic/argumentative mood today.
Good job sony: The competition gave up, so "Winning" to a certain extent only.
Re: This RAM Crisis Is Looking Like a Nightmare for the PS6
@zhoont clever, but really messed up. Don't joke about that stuff man.
Re: Third Styx Game Set for PS5 Release in February 2026
Oh nice. I bought the first one ages ago on PS4. Loved it. Character was pretty original in my opinion, really cool design and voice acting.
Never got around to the second one. This will get me to pick it up sooner now. Glad it's doing well enough to get more pumped out.
Re: Looks Like PS5 Is Going to Clean Up This Black Friday
@RainbowGazelle Not going to lie, this post had me question if I read that right. That's an insane deal lol. Awesome find.
Re: Looks Like PS5 Is Going to Clean Up This Black Friday
God, I can't imagine how bad the sales numbers for the next Xbox are going to be. I don't think they'll even bother with some markets, maybe leave some altogether.
What would impressive numers be? If the Next Xbox is $1000 or more?
700 a week at $500-600 each is sad. 700 a week at a MSRP of $1000? Would that be impressive?
Good on Sony for sure.
Re: Poll: Five Years of PS5 - How Would You Rate Sony's Console?
@Stevemalkpus I figured it was them, a lot of people lately have been aiming at MSFT for owning a big stake in Open AI. Same boat I suppose.
Tragically the US government is just a puppet to corporations now. I know that makes me sound like a tin foil hat guy, I know lol.
Until the 1950s the corporate tax rate here was roughly 70% iirc. Now? It's like 26% with more write off/tax loophole you could ever count. We used to walk in a break up monopolies constantly. AT&T, and three others came out of a big beak up the US Gov. Forced. Now though? Companies get what they want. All Open AI has to do, is slide an envelope over the tab, and no one will stop them.
Perfect example, is our military. When I was in the Army the old timers, and a lot of higher ups, put it bluntly. We are everywhere now, not for peace, but for business. Are promise of protection, gets US companies favorable deals.
It's just business, and no one in the Gov, is immune to a nice sack O' Cash. Even if they did "force rationing", they couldn't make it fair. Hundreds of thousands of US based companies need ram. Who gets what percentage? I'd love to see it happen, but it won't.
Re: Suddenly the PS5 Pro Doesn't Look That Expensive Anymore
@Northern_munkey yep lol. At least its the modern day? Could be worse, like medical knowledge pre 1800s worse.
Re: Sony Poised to Publish PS5 Hit Death Stranding 2 on PC
@Boxmonkey Yeah man. Do what you want, but don't throw a hissy fit. At the end of the day, these are just video games.
Re: Suddenly the PS5 Pro Doesn't Look That Expensive Anymore
@Northern_munkey In the U.S. sure, if you don't mind having debt forever. Idk everything about the healthcare setup in the U.K. in truth, but id say you are waaaaay better off.
I get it's not amazing, and has a ton of red tape or wait times. If you want to love it though, look up costs here in the states lol.
A typical bill for having a baby? Around $20,000. Some can be 30k.
Ambulance bills... Idk if you have to pay for them, we do. The bill for a "Woo Woo Wagon, is some times worse than the ER bill.
3 years ago, had a ambulance take me from work, to the nearby hospital. A 17 mile drive mind you, and I was stuck paying $900 out of pocket. That's after insurance knocked it down from $2400.
Random venting on my part. Still. It's a double edged sword. Yeah Long life, but a long life of bills that only get bigger and happen more often.
Re: Poll: Five Years of PS5 - How Would You Rate Sony's Console?
@SeaDaVie I'm just a few years shy of the same age. I think at this age gaming in general has taken a back burner to life. I still have my launch Series X. But it's just a thing on my myshlf now. I think the PS5 has done great, I never bought one though. I think the Xbox failures, and the way the industry has changed has just turned me off to gaming a bunch.
I think age was a bigger thing for me honestly. Everyone I know around our age still games ton. I just ended up focusing on other hobbies more.
I'm hoping to snag a PS5 down the road, it's very clear it's a great system to most here. Just need to balance my hobbies a bit more.