Honestly it's just nice to have games running close to 60 or 4k 60 with RT rather then having to choose. The console will be great for AAA launches in 2025, I think Ghost of Yotei and GTA6 will be particular highlights that convince more people to make the purchase. A nice price cut wouldn't go amiss either.
I can play other games like Kingdom Come Deliverance knowing they will play the best they possibly can outside of PC.
I got my pro yesterday and did some tests on various games, here is what I found:
BG3 - Improved RT lighting and better frame rates in the 60hz mode - still doesn't quite hit 60 in act 3 but much better
Metaphor ReFantazio: Now at a locked 60fps - it was 50-60fps on base PS5
Dragon Age: The Veilgaurd: Big uplift in RT reflections in the Quality mode, some the the best looking RT I have seen on a console to date - especially the water
GT7 - Awaiting the Pro Patch
Dragons Dogma 2 - Higher Res noticeable on a 4K TV but not a 1080p one, RT has been taken up to the next level. 30fps locked mode now locked in all areas, still some dips in cities for the 60fps mode.
Stellar Blade - Big uplift in fps on performance mode and resolutions greatly increased
Rise of the Ronin - Improved RT mode and a much smoother 30fps and 60fps mode, graphical fidelity seems higher
Spiderman 2 - Quality mode but at 60fps with all the RT turned on, looks great. The 30fps RT mode (40fps on a 120hz screen) is a real treat with some seriously impressive RT for a console).
Hogwarts Legacy - Noticeably improved RT on the Fidelity RT mode - still runs at 30fps but looks very good.
I plan on trying more games out today
If you want games that run at 4K with RT and 60fps, the PS5 pro is the only console currently that will offer than for the next few years. For the tech £700 is not that bad but for those happy with their PS5 and not wanting more there is no need to upgrade yet.
I got fomo over the PS5 Pro and caved in my ordering one on Curry's. I was surprised I could still pre order one for launch day on Thursday but happy about it.
I got fomo over the PS5 Pro and caved in my ordering one on Curry's. I was surprised I could still pre order one for launch day on Thursday but happy about it.
I'm sure if we was looking at the concurrent players on PlayStation and Xbox, it would be higher than steam.
70,000 concurrent players for a SP game on Thursday isn't bad, and It might go up at the weekend. This isn't a flop or a runaway success, just a decent game doing decently well.
Ultimately what matters is that you enjoy the game, and if you don't that's also okay. If you aren't interested move on to something you are. EA don't need armchair accountants to speculate for them.
@TooManyBrownies Luke Stephens was pretty positive about the preview much to the dismay of his audience did not get a code and Dantics who was fairly critcal got one. Mortismal Gaming also got a code and is generally even handed and not afraid to call out flaws or bad practices. It's a 7-8 game for those who like action RPGs with light RPG mechanics, for others they are better off playing BG3.
@MikeRobT101 To be fair I did have the bug with the voice acting not coming into cutscenes. Quite a few people I know had that. Or the one where Spiderman was a cube. I had a couple of crashes too. It's well reported online the patches they had to put out in the first weeks of the game being out. It was a software issue not a hardware one.
The market speaks and the numbers don't lie - the cold hard facts. Nothing STJV can do about game devs like DN and Ubi closing studios in France if they can't afford to keep them open.
I'm looking forward to playing the game next year. Hopefully the extra time will give it some good polish. 6 months is a long time in Ubisoft dev time considering the whole thing takes only 3-4 years. Ultimately I will decide for myself how I feel about the game. Basing my opinion off of those who monetize through hype or hate doesn't work out.
Looks okay, I don't know about £45 okay though. Maybe £15 kind of okay. I'm a big fan of Anya Chalotra but a lot of her is lost on in the game from what I have seen so far.
Nobody will be laughing when Sony takes full advantage and creates a monopoly of inflated hardware and software prices. We need completion to keep Sony in check. With the console price increases, PS5 Pros high RRP and the controller price increase, we are already seeing the effects.
MS will ultimately will always make more money than SIE with it's strategy as It attracts the more lucrative PC and mobile market. It's console gamers who will suffer with anti consumer polices.
As soon as console prices get in line with PC gaming and cloud/mobile gaming get more advanced, SIE will be in deep trouble. Console gaming is meant to be the affordable alternative to PC gaming.
Seen a lot of discourse around SiE's profit Vs loss argument on various games. To clear a couple of things up, both sides of the argument are right. Astro Bot has made a solid profit alongside other 1P titles but did make a sizable loss of Concord. SIE operating profit is already razor thin hence the trend to increase hardware prices to compensate for software losses. The hardware hasn't gotten more expensive to make, but the software has.
@Savage_Joe Shadows will probably do quite well but sadly this game will really be swallowed up by Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 and Monster hunter wilds and Avowed will be available at no extra cost on game pass.
I'm looking forward to the game and I have surprisingly seen quite a lot of other players excited about the game. I don't think it will win over many of the older DA player base but it seems to be picking up a lot of new fans, me being one of them. Also why does everyone have to use the word "woke" for anything that might be ever so slightly out of the norm. It's such a cringe and lazy term that should be banned from existence.
I think this whole cutting spiders out of a game is a non issue. Based on the pre order numbers I'm getting from my workplace I don't think this is going to bomb like the echo chamber online thinks it is. PS unsurprisingly has especially strong numbers. Xbox, not so much haha.
As one of the few impartial people on this site, it's good that MS are taking feedback to at least try and address their issues. Healthy competition into next gen is what will keep prices down, and prevent Sony from going all out digital like it wanted to with the PS5 (They thought the Series S was the main console until about a year before hence the CPU overclocking, sharp GPU uplift and the disc drive slapped on the side in addition to the digital version).
Sony should seek feedback with it's live service offerings to avoid something of Concords scale again.
I can't believe I rushed to get a standard PS5 pro when they are still in stock to pre order nearly a week later. How many units did they allocate to the UK? it must either be an awful lot or selling poorly.
@LifeGirl The standard lower paid devs are the ones who will suffer for this, not the millionaire shareholders. Nothing to celebrate about a company struggling or doing badly.
I find that I can switch seamlessly between PS and Xbox controllers as they game and button layouts are identical so once you play one of each it gets hard wired to your brain. It's the Nintendo press A rather than X/A that messes me up haha.
Managed to get the PS5 Pro standard about 10 mins ago and just waiting for my confirmation email. The Standard PS5 Pro is selling a little slower than I expected although I can't imagine there will be much stock left beyond this afternoon. The best part is they don't take payment until they ship, so almost anyone can pre order and just save up.
Since AC Shadows is moving to Feb, does that mean a delay for KKD2 or Avowed, I can see at least one of these being delayed into March or April as Feb is getting very crowded and as much as people are hating on AC Shadows/Ubisoft online it will sell a lot more now with that steam day 1 and impact sales of others maybe except MH Wilds.
A: Laying low to avoid bad press in the 6 weeks leading up
B: A delay into Spring 2025 (Ubi aren't afraid to delay games a number of months when required/Due to new PS5 Pro updates). It would be very last minute to delay the game with a mere matter of weeks to go though.
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Re: Hands On: Cyberpunk 2077, Final Fantasy 16, and Metaphor: ReFantazio All Get a Boost on PS5 Pro
Honestly it's just nice to have games running close to 60 or 4k 60 with RT rather then having to choose. The console will be great for AAA launches in 2025, I think Ghost of Yotei and GTA6 will be particular highlights that convince more people to make the purchase. A nice price cut wouldn't go amiss either.
I can play other games like Kingdom Come Deliverance knowing they will play the best they possibly can outside of PC.
Re: Out Today: PS5 Pro, the Most Powerful Console Ever
I got my pro yesterday and did some tests on various games, here is what I found:
BG3 - Improved RT lighting and better frame rates in the 60hz mode - still doesn't quite hit 60 in act 3 but much better
Metaphor ReFantazio: Now at a locked 60fps - it was 50-60fps on base PS5
Dragon Age: The Veilgaurd: Big uplift in RT reflections in the Quality mode, some the the best looking RT I have seen on a console to date - especially the water
GT7 - Awaiting the Pro Patch
Dragons Dogma 2 - Higher Res noticeable on a 4K TV but not a 1080p one, RT has been taken up to the next level. 30fps locked mode now locked in all areas, still some dips in cities for the 60fps mode.
Stellar Blade - Big uplift in fps on performance mode and resolutions greatly increased
Rise of the Ronin - Improved RT mode and a much smoother 30fps and 60fps mode, graphical fidelity seems higher
Spiderman 2 - Quality mode but at 60fps with all the RT turned on, looks great. The 30fps RT mode (40fps on a 120hz screen) is a real treat with some seriously impressive RT for a console).
Hogwarts Legacy - Noticeably improved RT on the Fidelity RT mode - still runs at 30fps but looks very good.
I plan on trying more games out today
If you want games that run at 4K with RT and 60fps, the PS5 pro is the only console currently that will offer than for the next few years. For the tech £700 is not that bad but for those happy with their PS5 and not wanting more there is no need to upgrade yet.
Re: PS5 Pro vs PS5: Full Tech Specs Comparison
I got fomo over the PS5 Pro and caved in my ordering one on Curry's. I was surprised I could still pre order one for launch day on Thursday but happy about it.
Re: Upcoming PS5 Games for November and December 2024
I got fomo over the PS5 Pro and caved in my ordering one on Curry's. I was surprised I could still pre order one for launch day on Thursday but happy about it.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
I'm enjoying my time with the game 6 hours in
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Comes Out Swinging, Already EA's Biggest Single Player Game on Steam
@UnlimitedSevens Stop proving my point haha
Re: Sony Says the Best Time to Get a PS5 Is Now
The best time to get a PS5 is when PS6 comes out.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Comes Out Swinging, Already EA's Biggest Single Player Game on Steam
I'm sure if we was looking at the concurrent players on PlayStation and Xbox, it would be higher than steam.
70,000 concurrent players for a SP game on Thursday isn't bad, and It might go up at the weekend. This isn't a flop or a runaway success, just a decent game doing decently well.
Ultimately what matters is that you enjoy the game, and if you don't that's also okay. If you aren't interested move on to something you are. EA don't need armchair accountants to speculate for them.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
@TooManyBrownies Luke Stephens was pretty positive about the preview much to the dismay of his audience did not get a code and Dantics who was fairly critcal got one. Mortismal Gaming also got a code and is generally even handed and not afraid to call out flaws or bad practices. It's a 7-8 game for those who like action RPGs with light RPG mechanics, for others they are better off playing BG3.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
Day one for me, I am looking forward to Thursday.
Re: PS5 Controller, Cover Set for Monster Hunter Wilds Exclusive to Japan, Asia
Looks like base cover/controller with stickers printed on
Re: Ubisoft Disbands Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown Team After Poor Sales, Claims Report
You could say Ubisoft has lost their crown.
Re: No Lies Detected! Loved Soulslike Lies of P Will Look and Run Better on PS5 Pro
This game is PEI detected (PlayStation Enhanced In-game)
Re: Spider-Man 2 Won't Receive Any PS5 Story DLC
@MikeRobT101 To be fair I did have the bug with the voice acting not coming into cutscenes. Quite a few people I know had that. Or the one where Spiderman was a cube. I had a couple of crashes too. It's well reported online the patches they had to put out in the first weeks of the game being out. It was a software issue not a hardware one.
Re: Spider-Man 2 Won't Receive Any PS5 Story DLC
The most disappointing game Sony has put out In a long time, I'm glad they are moving on and hopefully Wolverine will be much better when it launches.
Re: Don't Nod Financials Result in Reorganisation and Layoffs, Cancelled Projects
The market speaks and the numbers don't lie - the cold hard facts. Nothing STJV can do about game devs like DN and Ubi closing studios in France if they can't afford to keep them open.
Re: Fans Can't Fathom Why PS5 RPG Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Is So Cheap
It's going to be on Gamepass so it will be a shorter experience. I'm looking forward to playing it on there.
Re: Poll: Are You Using the PS5's New Welcome Hub?
I find it useful for checking my storage, controller battery and Wishlist without the additional clicks. The backgrounds are nice too.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Statue Manufacturer Pulls Controversial, 'Insensitive' Design
I'm looking forward to playing the game next year. Hopefully the extra time will give it some good polish. 6 months is a long time in Ubisoft dev time considering the whole thing takes only 3-4 years. Ultimately I will decide for myself how I feel about the game. Basing my opinion off of those who monetize through hype or hate doesn't work out.
Re: Unknown 9: Awakening (PS5) - Brand New IP Shows Plenty of Promise
Looks okay, I don't know about £45 okay though. Maybe £15 kind of okay. I'm a big fan of Anya Chalotra but a lot of her is lost on in the game from what I have seen so far.
Re: PS5 May Soon Be Unchallenged by Xbox in Some Regions
Nobody will be laughing when Sony takes full advantage and creates a monopoly of inflated hardware and software prices. We need completion to keep Sony in check. With the console price increases, PS5 Pros high RRP and the controller price increase, we are already seeing the effects.
MS will ultimately will always make more money than SIE with it's strategy as It attracts the more lucrative PC and mobile market. It's console gamers who will suffer with anti consumer polices.
As soon as console prices get in line with PC gaming and cloud/mobile gaming get more advanced, SIE will be in deep trouble. Console gaming is meant to be the affordable alternative to PC gaming.
Re: Acclaimed PS5 Platformer Astro Bot Really Couldn't Be Selling Any Better
Seen a lot of discourse around SiE's profit Vs loss argument on various games. To clear a couple of things up, both sides of the argument are right. Astro Bot has made a solid profit alongside other 1P titles but did make a sizable loss of Concord. SIE operating profit is already razor thin hence the trend to increase hardware prices to compensate for software losses. The hardware hasn't gotten more expensive to make, but the software has.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for October 2024?
Dead Island 2 would be good if I had not already played it over a year ago.
Re: Metaphor: ReFantazio Immediately Tops 1 Million Sales at Launch
Looks like the Xbox marketing did zero damage to sales as expected in the real world.
Re: Ridiculous Visual Novel Date Everything Delayed to the Perfect Release Date on PS5
@Savage_Joe Shadows will probably do quite well but sadly this game will really be swallowed up by Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 and Monster hunter wilds and Avowed will be available at no extra cost on game pass.
Re: Dragon Age Series Ditches Those Disgusting Spiders in The Veilguard
I'm looking forward to the game and I have surprisingly seen quite a lot of other players excited about the game. I don't think it will win over many of the older DA player base but it seems to be picking up a lot of new fans, me being one of them. Also why does everyone have to use the word "woke" for anything that might be ever so slightly out of the norm. It's such a cringe and lazy term that should be banned from existence.
I think this whole cutting spiders out of a game is a non issue. Based on the pre order numbers I'm getting from my workplace I don't think this is going to bomb like the echo chamber online thinks it is. PS unsurprisingly has especially strong numbers. Xbox, not so much haha.
Re: PS5's New Welcome Hub Reportedly Now Popping Up in Europe
@Almost_Ghostly I did try that but it doesn't do anything for me
Re: Report Brands Roblox 'X-Rated Paedophile Hellscape' for Children, with Inflated Player Numbers
@Czar_Khastik I know it's safe for my kids because there are zero adults there
Re: Sony Now Selling Refurbished PS5 Consoles
Cheaper, comes with a stand and has a bigger cooling system/quieter fan. My PS5 slim sounds like a jet engine with the tiny NMB fan since day 1.
Re: PS5's New Welcome Hub Reportedly Now Popping Up in Europe
Sony likes to give the UK things last despite being the one of the highest profit countries for SIE.
Re: Boy! God of War Ragnarok Will Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
Waiting for the new games.
Re: Atlus Fans Don't Think Xbox's Marketing Is Doing Metaphor: ReFantazio Justice
There hasn't been a lack of articles about the game on this site.. with complaints of too many trailers.. the marketing can't be that bad.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Reportedly Has a Co-Op Game Mode in Development
If the game or company fail the only ones that suffer are the lower paid devs who lose there jobs globally into the thousands.
Re: Microsoft Is Investigating Why Devs Are Prioritising PS5 Over Xbox
As one of the few impartial people on this site, it's good that MS are taking feedback to at least try and address their issues. Healthy competition into next gen is what will keep prices down, and prevent Sony from going all out digital like it wanted to with the PS5 (They thought the Series S was the main console until about a year before hence the CPU overclocking, sharp GPU uplift and the disc drive slapped on the side in addition to the digital version).
Sony should seek feedback with it's live service offerings to avoid something of Concords scale again.
Re: Sony Fights Scalpers in Japan By Demanding PS5, PS4 Playtime
I can't believe I rushed to get a standard PS5 pro when they are still in stock to pre order nearly a week later. How many units did they allocate to the UK? it must either be an awful lot or selling poorly.
Re: Report Finds Lack of Star Wars Outlaws Sales Disturbing
@LifeGirl The standard lower paid devs are the ones who will suffer for this, not the millionaire shareholders. Nothing to celebrate about a company struggling or doing badly.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Hasn't Removed Yasuke, But Dev Focused on Historical Accuracy
I just want to know when Sony plan on refunding pre orders.. no news yet.
Re: Random: Xbox Boss Complains About X Button After Being Handed PS5 Pad
I find that I can switch seamlessly between PS and Xbox controllers as they game and button layouts are identical so once you play one of each it gets hard wired to your brain. It's the Nintendo press A rather than X/A that messes me up haha.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed on PS5 Until 14th February
Any ETA on the pre order refund? I haven't received mine yet.
Re: Newly Signed Law May Restrict Sony's Use of Terms Like 'Buy' or 'Purchase' for Digital Games
@Illyrian The only thing we ever truly own is our bones and even that's up for debate.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5 Pro
FYI UK PS5 Pro standard back in stock (at time of this post) - probably got approved from a larger allocation as the UK is a big market for PS.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
@Zemo55 It's sold out in the UK now.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
Managed to get the PS5 Pro standard about 10 mins ago and just waiting for my confirmation email. The Standard PS5 Pro is selling a little slower than I expected although I can't imagine there will be much stock left beyond this afternoon. The best part is they don't take payment until they ship, so almost anyone can pre order and just save up.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5 Pro
Just managed to grab a PS5 Pro, waiting for the confirmation email now.
Edit: Got the confirmation email at around 3pm.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed on PS5 Until 14th February
@RagnarLothbrok One of those will get delayed out of Feb, I think KKD2 if MS doesn't delay Avowed.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed on PS5 Until 14th February
Since AC Shadows is moving to Feb, does that mean a delay for KKD2 or Avowed, I can see at least one of these being delayed into March or April as Feb is getting very crowded and as much as people are hating on AC Shadows/Ubisoft online it will sell a lot more now with that steam day 1 and impact sales of others maybe except MH Wilds.
Re: Ubisoft Backs Out of Tokyo Game Show at Eleventh Hour, Cancels Livestream
Either:
A: Laying low to avoid bad press in the 6 weeks leading up
B: A delay into Spring 2025 (Ubi aren't afraid to delay games a number of months when required/Due to new PS5 Pro updates). It would be very last minute to delay the game with a mere matter of weeks to go though.
Re: BioWare Battles Dragons in Lengthy Dragon Age: The Veilguard Mage Gameplay
Looking forward to this game.
Re: Is DECAPOLICE Ever Actually Coming Out on PS5, PS4?
They need to take it down a few levels.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for September 2024?
Was okay, nothing mind blowing. Helped me to realise I won't be needing a PS5 pro until GTA 6. Ghost of Yotei looks okay but need to see more of it.