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Sadly, the game doesn't need to be good; it must fit a set definition of mass-market "good." If you follow the formula you may find success.

They fall into some core categories:

The Casual Gamer:

AAA Sports games - FC25, NBA 2K25

Large Franchises - Harry Potter, Spiderman

PlayStation "Filmic" games - God of War, The Last of US, Death Stranding

The Nerds:

Historical and Fantasy games - Witcher 3, KCD 2, Dragons Dogma, Warhammer, BG3 (D&D)

JRPGs - Persona, Xenoblade, Like a Dragon

The Hardcore Gamer:

Souls Like Games - Elden Ring, Dark Souls, Wukong

The Family Gamer:

Nintendo games - Mario, Zelda, Pokémon

Everyone:

Rockstar games - Any

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A reasonable length for those who like the more recent AC games and like to get stuck into open worlds. It often depends on the game and how you click with it. For Persona 5 Royal or Starfield I could still play after 200 hours. For Dragons Dogma 2 and Dragon Age the Veilgaurd around 75 hours was about right. For something like Avowed 50 hours was enough and for Final Fantasy 16 I was glad to be done after 32 hours.

I am looking forward to this game! Based on the pre orders it will sell quite well.

They will announce a new controller for Xbox haha.

I am wondering if this will make 2025 or slip into 2026. It's almost March now and there is no launch date for a game coming out in the remainder of this year. With Ghost of Yotei I expect a fall date to be given in the summer but will this also be fall? Or will be get a Summer/Autumn date soon?

£300 and I'll consider. I still don't understand why it launched more expensive than the base console in the first place. It's still more expensive than a PS5 digital edition in the UK.

I'm looking forward to this game. With Ubisoft games I know exactly what I'm getting. No nasty suprises.

You typically get great performance and optimisation on console, average writing, lots of fetch quests, tasks to complete, enemy zones to clear and a new tech feature (such a lighting or reactive materials for Shadows). I find the gameplay loop rather addictive and based on the sales of other AC games I'm not the only one. Valhalla was a bit too long though. This one is tracking very well on pre orders and won't be the flop naysayers online are hoping for. It's the 2nd most pre ordered AC game ever behind Valhalla now.

I don't know why this topic is revisited beyond engagement, which is shame. At least try and trick me into thinking I'm not being monetized.

For anyone wondering Veilgaurd sold around 1 million units as of Jan 2025. It's not awful but given the amount spent of the game they are clearly looking at other revenue sources. I got the game and I enjoyed it. The writing isn't the best but the world and combat are actually pretty fun. I hope being on this services allows people to at least give the game a try despite some outward appearances.

NetEase, More like NetSleaze!

The PS5 generation is even more disappointing than the PS3 generation, and for most of that time I was playing my Xbox 360 more. The fact that I am more interested in the games Xbox will be bringing to PS5 than Sony themselves is wild.

Looking forward to this game! roll on March 20th!

I would to see this remade to the P3R/P5R level. I enjoyed Golden on the PS Vita back in the day and would love to revisit the world in a modern light.

@AhmadSumadi Very true I think post pandemic were judging games on units sold and cost to sales ratios like we are an investor haha. I still try to enjoy games without worrying how many units it sold or it's budget.

@Ravix Cave in or make tons more money? Everyone benefits from MS not locking their games to one console, especially MS financially.

@Joker Boy322 I don't remember them sharing data on the pre orders for Outlaws. It could be 270,000 or 325 either way it's a solid start for pre orders. If you don't like Ubisoft just say that .

@JokerBoy322 To be fair they actually have the data to back it up. Outlaws sold around 150,000 pre orders up to launch and Shadows has over 300,000 pre orders as of wc 10th Feb.

Tbh I am pretty certain that the game will launch now on March 20th as it's about a month out and this really would the the latest they could pull a last min delay. The Insider gaming story is a bit of a nothing burger tbh because they probably spoke to some random dev as opposed to a studio head or management team that decide.

I have pre ordered the game (to get the free DLC) and I am looking forward to it. I know what to expect from Ubisoft games. Its like eating junk food for me. It's not good all the time but I enjoy it now and again.

Maybe PS6 will be a remastered version of the PS5 generation. Waiting for the new IP. I'm just seeing sequels and remasters everywhere.

@R_L_Stine Looks like Focus Interactive were sold off and run under a group called Pull up.

I would definitely like to see more Sony 1st party single player games like the PS4 gen but I think having Microsofts collection of games come over is great for PS players and MS's bank balance. It takes nothing away from Sony so everyone wins in different ways.

As long as it's not a souls-like, I'm in!

No Ghost of Yotei, No Death Stranding 2, Plenty of games coming to the PS4 or in 2026. Pretty poor is an understatement. Mindseye was the only one that caught my attention.

Friendship ended with PS5. I'm now friends with Switch 2.

Oh and get your 2-step login activated if you haven't already.

I'm day one for both. I really enjoyed the first game and I'm sure a sequel in a new time with new characters and areas would be great! I just hope WB doesn't make it a live service game.

Not surprised it's PSN. This happens pretty much every year. I'll just play on my Xbox.

Overall I enjoyed the game, the open zone style and the gameplay. I actively liked it more because there was no mtx or live service elements. This Dragon Age game didn't connect with a broader audience because it wasn't dragon age, just an RPG.

Like a lot of others here the larger rpgs and open world games are usually done within a month if I'm fully invested, or over several months if I'm juggling it alongside new releases. I've put in about 20 hours to KCD 2 so far and I only just got a horse and met the blacksmith! Still working on getting Mutt and not even strong enough yet to get Tomcats master strike! I'll keep grinding up my gear and my levels/ perk points though as I'm very invested in the world

I purchased the game after been on the fence about the difficulty and the time investment but I have been very pleasantly surprised with how much I'm enjoying it. I really appreciate the level of detail and choice you just don't get in other open world games. This game is for those who look for depth and challenges. I can understand there are many casual gamers who wouldn't enjoy this.

DA Veilgaurd got nearly 50,000 more all time concurrents on steam and was considered a sales flop so this must be an ultra sales flop on PC for Square. I can see why moving console multiplat makes sense for them.

Roll on 4pm tomorrow!

I can imagine it will go to PS5, not day one but 3-12 months after. I noticed they do day 1 or within a few months on certain Bethesda (Doom/Indy) and Actibizz games (COD) and a little longer for Xbox Studio games (Avowed, MS Flight Sim 24)

MS ready to make lots of $$ again.

Microsoft about to live up to it's name and make lots of $$ with this one. A smart move for a game almost 4 years old that has no real competition on PlayStation

I pray Xbox make something good so that PlayStation improve for the PS6 generation. Having the record of the worst performing game of all time is not what I was expecting for the PS5 gen. If this PS5 gen does not improve I'm off to Switch 2.

I have Gamepass so nothing that will make me turn on my PS5 beyond Trails Through Daybreak 2 and then Ghost of Yotei and Death Stranding 2. The Sony 1P output hasn't been great this last couple of years. I got spoiled rotten in the PS4 gen but now Xbox are bringing out the 1P games I like and I don't have to wait at least a year to get them on PS5.

Starfield has been out well over a year now, I wonder if the will port it over if ever? Nintendo will be the ones that will really challenge Sony with the Switch 2. I only keep mu PS5 for the JRPG's I can't get on Switch so if now they start porting them all over to Switch 2 i'll be skipping out until PS6 and I'll play GTA 6 on my Series X.

I think this game comes out in 2026 and that might get confirmed at the next investor call.

Need to finish the first game first, I better crack on with that!

Will be playing these on Gamepass as I already spend a lot of games but will be picking up a pro for the likes of Ghost of Yotei and Death Stranding 2.

I enjoyed the game overall apart from some of the writing, but I don't think it needs any additional DLC as they previously hinted. The story was tied up nicely and the lack of MTX was a good thing in this game. I can imagine most of the team are supporting other studios until the next Mass Effect is fully up and running.

Looking forward to this one!

@Gamer83 The IP has been dormant quite a long time, but yeah I'm not saying it was a success, read my other replies for what I was on about.

@dskatter Like I mentioned previously 1.5 million of anything is a decent number. It clearly didn't hit it's financial expectations but that doesn't really matter beyond EA deciding what they want Bioware to do next. I was commenting on this "modern audience" notion which I found to be strange given we kept being told that it exists yet it is very small. I have never played a dragon age game before as I like JRPGS and i liked the world and gameplay (I didn't like the writing).

@Reform It wasn't on EA play for consoles. It might drop there in the future though like most EA titles. The estimate is 1.5 million sales.

@MrMagic Like it said 1.5 million of anything is a decent number. For EA, probably not but it was more than enough for Sony with Astro Bot. I'm not arguing that the game was a financial success because it clearly was not. I was just saying that 1.5 million does not represent this "modern audience" people keep banging on about.

Lots of media coverage on Youtube for this one tomorrow. Alongside the launch of the Dualsense Chroma Teal and the Xbox developer direct it's a busy day in gaming news tomorrow!

@Reform I mean 1.5 million is quite a sizable number by any metric. "Modern audience" numbers would be something like Dustborn or Unknown 9.

It's time for Hulst to make way, as the live service strategy has cost time, talent and a lot of money in this PS5 generation. Others like Jim Ryan rightly stepped aside.