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@Dampsponge It's really not a grind-fest. After 50 hours I had over 100 cars.

Also, the regular PS5 doesn't have the other Pro enhancements FFS.

It's really not a very good game. It hands you hypercars after an hour or two. Then you're unlocking new pants for your driver. The "story" and dialogue is peak cringe.

Much worse though is the handling - it's an arcade racer, yet the cars have a turning cycle akin to the Titanic. So it lacks the precision of a SIM/simcade game, but also the snappiness of a proper arcade racer.

Meh.

@Max_the_German Samesies bro - I don't usually engage with people who couldn't debate their way into a frat party with a free beer keg, but here we are.

Now, do you have any actual points that are relevant to the conversation being had, or are you just going to come out with more completely irrelevant soundbites because your stance doesn't have a leg to stand on?

@Max_the_German Two utterly disingenuous comparisons there.

@KidRyan Awesome! Prepare to catch yourself singing "back in the 90s, I was in a very famous TV show" at random moments.

And also prepare to be emotionally ruined by the end.

@EfYI I read the first paragraph of Anna Karenina and was all "Tolstoy? More like Lol-stoy amirite bois!".

@Max_the_German

Maybe this „worrying about everybody else“ is part of my empathy

Mate, thinking anyone who owns a console is a cast-iron moron who won't be able to flip one or two graphical toggles without having a meltdown isn't empathy.

I redownloaded this the other day to try out my shiny new Dualsense Edge controller and still reckon it's underrated.

Time to respawn is a pain though (I do understand the logic behind that at least)

@MrGawain Astro Bot, Astro's Playroom, Death Stranding, Gran Turismo 7, Horizon Forbidden West, Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered, Returnal, Sackboy's Big Adventure are all Asian/European-developed games.

Then there's paid-for exclusives like Stellar Blade, FF7 Rebirth, Helldivers 2, Rise of the Ronin, also all European/Asian.

@GamingFan4Lyf None of that negates the reality of the fighting game market in 2024 - it's not an either/or scenario.

Plus you've kinda deflated your own point there - sure, Third Strike is still supported at EVO. But New Generation isn't, and neither is Second Impact/Giant Attack. It's the third interation of SF3; effectively the "all DLC included" version of it.

@Max_the_German I'm more sad that we now live in an idiocracy and people can't tweak a handful of options and figure out what they like best without needing to have the minutiae spoon-fed to them.

@GamingFan4Lyf Because it's not casual people who play a game for a few weeks who are buying these things. It's people who play for years - they're target market for fighting games and the ones who sustain the games long-term.

And gating playable characters behind engaging with the single player is a garbage idea for people running tournaments, or who want to dive in.

Something that also seems to go over people's heads - unlockable characters of old were frequently just model/palette swaps. Like have you played Tekken 2 recently? King, Armour King, Rodger, and
Alex are all effectively one character. Jack-2, Ganyru, P-Jack, and Kuma are all basically the same character as well. Kazuya/Devil/Angel are all the same too. In fact, I think the only truly unique unlockable character in Tekken 2 is Bruce.

That twenty-somethijg strong roster shrinks considerably when the reality is taken into account.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner It's like you're deliberately ignoring everything I wrote before - those old games with character unlocks usually have a smaller roster than the current base games. So the game you're whining about being incomplete has more content in it than the ones you're holding up as some bastion of content and consumer fairness.

You've also completely ignored where I wrote people will pay money for new characters because they sink hundreds if not thousands of hours into these games.

And the bit where a new game splits the playerbase. Question - how much do you think a new game will be three or four years later?

You know this stuff goes on sale too, right? I can pick up base Street Fighter 6 and fthe first season pass today for less than €50. My own personal playtime with that content clocked 400 hours over the course of a year. But sure, I'm getting fleeced.

@DarthCvrle66 You didn't kick up a hornet's nest, rather you made a poorly informed comment and were corrected on it.

Funny that you think Microsoft give you more for less when 12 months of Premium - which allows you access to around 800 games - costs less than 12 months of GamePass Ultimate, which is around 500 games. Series X costs the same as a PS5 with a disc drive. Series X digital costs more money than a PS5 digital and lacks the option to add a drive. Series X/S expandable storage costs more for the same equivalent on PS5 (and lacks functionality outside the console too).

But sure, Microsoft are benevolent.

@wilky2988 And a quick Google of "expected failure rates for electronic devices" will confirm that yes, your own anecdotal experience means squat (in terms of statistics, not to yourself, obviously).

@DarthCvrle66 Did Sony recently buy one of the biggest multiformat publishing houses in the industry, and then turn around and buy the actual biggest in an attempt to financially strangle the competition? No? Oh that was Microsoft who have a history of doing just that in order to bury the competition and monopolise? Okay then.

@Major_Player Did you casually ignore the entire anime bit?

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Just because they have a planned roadmap of support of several years (you're aware of the basics of how product management works and some Management Bro at Capcom doesn't sit up three years after release and say "I want five new characters for next week!", right?) doesn't mean that content was good to go at launch.

You're ignoring my point that those older games (which were already smaller to begin with) got iterative expansions that were the cost of a new game (like say Street Fighter 2 > Street Fighter 2 Turbo > Super Street Fighter 2 > Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo). You waiting five years to play Street Fighter 6 (or whichever game) is effectively buying the last version of a game everyone else has been playing for those five years. Or they just didn't get any updates at all.

You're also ignoring that this model doesn't fracture the playerbase. Know what happened when I bought Super Street Fighter 4 for the new characters and my buddy stuck with the base Street Fighter 4? We couldn't play online together as they're different games. Now with SF6, I've bought the extra characters and he hasn't, yet it's still the same base game and we can continue playing together. Please tell me how that's somehow worse for consumers? Especially when he gets all the balance updates, new stages, customisable music playlists and other tweaks for free?

You've also completely ignored the fact that these games are very much feature complete at launch, and are bigger than the old games ever were.

And you've also missed that the fighting game community - you know, the people who actually play these games and do so for hundreds if not thousands of hours - have "wised up" to the fact this model is far better than the old one. And comparing optional DLC that does not negate your day one purchase to broken at launch games is utterly disingenuous.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Here's the thing - base versions of modern fighting games are rammed full of content already. Tekken 8's base roster is one of the biggest (and notably - significantly bigger than the fully unlocked rosters of the older games that people cry "but unlockable characters used to be free!" about) in the series, the characters have massive and yet well balanced movesets, training tools are complex, single player content is chock.

Street Fighter 6 has the largest base roster of any new entry to the series. It also has a wealth of single player content (there's basically a fully fledged 30 hour "build your own character" RPG in there), comprehensive training tools, robust online modes and netcode that's so good it's basically witchcraft. It's also balanced to the point where the entire cast is viable at high levels. It's also seen subtle tweaks and refinements based on player feedback since it was released.

Now to my point that people seem to miss completely - the extra DLC characters just wouldn't exist in the older games. Sure, they removed Heihachi from Tekken 8 and later added him as DLC, but you know what you did when they removed Kazuya from Tekken 3 and wanted to play him? You waited four years for Tekken 4 and then bought that for full price. Or like when they removed M. Bison from Street Fighter 3 - he didn't return as DLC, instead you waited over a decade for SF4.

This model ensures that the games receive long term support, both from the developer and players. It also means that buying the game on day one will still be valid in five years when the Super Turbo Champion Edition is out and it doesn't fracture the player base by making early adopters buy an entirely new game just to access new characters (which is what, you know, the older versions of these games people champion did).

@DennisReynolds They can be bought separately for €8 a go, which will run you €48 instead of the €30 for the full stack.

Good. Close to the price of a full game (€50) for a story expansion (that takes a few hours to finish) to a competitive fighting game. They also gated the second character expansion behind this, so if you wanted the new characters you still had to stump up for the story expansion (first character pack was €30).

Plus, the roster expansions feel more like advertisements for other franchises than anything at this stage. I'm playing MK for Sub Zero and Baraka, not ***** Ghostface and Peacemaker.

EA and Ubisoft are frequently branded as the worst publishers in the industry, but I've long held the opinion that it's WB.

I dunno, if I wanted several films worth of Indy footage, I'd go watch several Indy films.

I'm playing video_games_for a few reasons. Sitting back to passively observe isn't one of them. You'd think these game companies would understand the appeal of the game part of the equation, but here we are.

@Pete_Stooge GTA6 will use the console with the highest install base - the base PS5 - as its main target platform. They also have to get to to similar spec on the Series X, and get it running any way they can on the piece of garbage Series S.

The Pro version of GTA6 will have a few extra bells and whistles, that's all.

I'm irrationally annoyed at the "the DVD age" subsection of the PS2 article showing a CD-ROM...

€5 is live on the app in Ireland. That was two of the quickest redemptions I've ever done in my life.

@LifeGirl "Radical left wing politics" - none of which are found I BG3.

@wilky2988 And the sample size of "my controller" doesn't mean squat.

@Netret0120 Forbidden West is considered the jewel in PS5's graphically crown, so the PS4 version wasn't going to sell. It was also released to PS Plus Extra as an experiment and killed the sales stone dead.

But sure, keep telling yourself that 10 million sales is a flop.

@Jaz007 Way to defend a rapist and thug.

@Netret0120 There's two mainline games. One sold over 24 million copies, and the other sold over 10 million to a much smaller install base... but sure, they're "unpopular".

@Zeke68 Me being "triggered" is a made up narrative in your head, nothing more. If you weren't offended, then why did you come at me with accusatory and defensive language? Or is that just your normal conversational tone? 😉

And no, it wasn't aimed at me, but you're aware of how public discussion forums work, right? If you don't want randos like me replying to your comments then don't comment to begin with 😉

How about they throw some love for games like WipEout and Motorstorm at the occasion? Thought not.

@Zeke68 You reckon I'm insecure because checks notes I think the writing in Days Gone - a game frequently criticised for it's trash writing - has trash writing? Lol, sure thing.

Also, having a strong opinion about a work of fiction that disagrees with your's ≠ offended by your opinion.

So maybe drop the disingenuous, bad faith arguments, and stop looking to be offended where there's nothing to be offended by 😉

@CielloArc Where are you plucking that out of? The biggest-selling God of War game (GoW 2018) sold 23 million, Horizon Zero Dawn has sold over 24 million units.

But sure, Sony don't have access to their own sales data and they can't see which of their IPs are popular.

@Zeke68 This lifetime supporter wants a new WipEout, Motorstorm, or something odd and creative like Puppeteer and Tokyo Jungle.

"Mature single player" games are precisely why I'm becoming bored of PlayStation. Also ironic that you say you want a mature game in the same breath as Days Gone 2 - the original being one of the most poorly written, childish pieces of nonsense fiction I've ever had the misfortune to be exposed to.

@silverspeed If you can tolerate the potato-spec graphics, the original FF7 is regarded as one of the best RPGs (and videogames in general) of all time for good reason.

Which is also why I don't think 16 is a fair indicator of the series - it's not much of an RPG. It's not a bad game as such and you may love it, it's just not what the series has been about for most of its history.

For £15 it is a no-brainer to try out though, hope you have fun with it.

WipEout 2097 is the greatest videogame ever made, so that.

@silverspeed It's a passable action game, but a dreadful FF game.

@Balaam_ Lol with the trophy hate again.

How did you play games before the 7th generation, genuine question.

@Major_Player Does Mr. Xbox Shill expect full price games for a nominal fee per month?

@Balaam_ Somome takes trophies way too seriously.

@djlard Ah yes, that bastion of quality, Nintendo Online...

@Loamy A time where homophobia isn't tolerated? Glad where here and not the old days with the "badasses".

Resistance 2 wont load for me. I can get as far as the main menu, configure controls and other options. Start a new game, get the intro screen about the only survivor, this is his story, then a black screen.

@Wario_Waha Yeah so about the fact that Kadokawa owns the M+L Brothers studio...

I get that you're trolling here, but having arguments so wafer thin lessens what you're trying to do.

@Rezium I read it the exact same way lol.

Blink there times if you're in danger, Geoff.

@ThatOneSneak People were crying "monopoly" after Microsoft bought Zenimax and ABK.

This isn't comparable.

We've very, very different definitions of "looks amazing" 😂 I'd honestly rather set fire to my money than spend it on any of these monstrosities.

But glad to see tat used appropriately. Not enough tat these days.

Bro in that thumbnail has seen some tootin' for sure.