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Dragon's Dogma 2 was one of the biggest disappointments of the year. That's my award for it.

Crimson Desert next year looks set to be what Dragon's Dogma 2 should have been.

@colonelkilgore And? Nintendo have bounced back before. I can't see the Switch 2 flopping in the first place not when it has years of hype behind it. Wii U never had that.

On the other hand, a PS6 I could see flopping seeing as, like with Xbox, it's becoming redundant to own a Playstation as its exclusives are also available on PC.

@NathanKang Silksong fans never shut up though. Lost Soul Aside would barely go mentioned until people remembered it existed plus it's a more ambitious project that started with only guy developing it. That kinda explains why it took so long.

Gooner weebs BTFO yet again. Their tears empower me.

@carlos82 Thing is, Borderlands 2 was badly written and had terrible humour too, @Burnish1619 mentions the 3rd game having unfunny millennial humour for Redditors and I'm sat here thinking...yeah that was Borderlands 2 as well. I guess some of the OG fans of BL2 grew up between the releases and somehow remember the second game differently even though it was the same terrible immature meme type humor with now many outdated meme jokes (i.e dick butt, arrow to the knee, poopy fart, everything that comes out of Claptrap's mouth and that awful racist character Tiny Tina talking in ebonics etc etc).

I never played these games for the story or the writing and I'm still surprised there's apparently people that do lol. I simply played them for the gameplay and multiplayer. I blanked out all the characters in both games due to how obnoxious they were lol.

@Enigk Let's be honest, most people aren't interested in Astro Bot and if it ever releases on PC, it'll be another Returnal.

Still one of the top selling games. No Astro Bot or Stellar Blade though.

Seriously, the game director was silly for complaining about the Game Awards. Financial success in this industry is more important than awards.

@nessisonett Not true since the term "woke" carries so many different meanings. Many people use it to describe virtue signalling and performative activism.

@Juanalf Wukong has a higher player review score on Steam. It also won the player's voice so that speaks to its popularity over both Stellar Blade and Astro Bot. Stellar Blade didn't even sell as much. Metacritic means nothing and hasn't for ages.

The Game Awards winners are decided by 90% of panelists who are "professional" critics so their choice of GOTY should be irrelevant anyway since it's literally a handful of people choosing.

Black Myth did win player's voice which is voted solely by the audience and it also won GOTY at the Golden Joystick Awards which again was decided by the audience. Everything else is irrelevant.

Combined with its massive financial success, breaking records on Steam as the most played single player game by concurrent player count and strong positive player feedback, that's really what matters for a game. It's literally more successful than Astro Bot so it's silly that they're crying. You'd think to the industry that the literal game of the year is the best selling one.

So people shouldn't be taking these ceremonies so seriously in the first place.

This looks really good. Way grittier than what Yakuza has become.

Interesting but it's still not a new 3d Ninja Gaiden game with Ryu. Still waiting for that...

I bet the Steam forums will be filled with the usual suspects raging and not because of skepticism of CD Projekt following the overhyped and mid Cyberpunk but because the protagonist is a gasp female.

@IceClimbersMain With GTA6 or Monster Hunter Wilds in the same year? No chance.

@Stragen8 It sounds like a rouge like since the article mentions randomised environments. Personally I'm not interested in that or the lack of an actual character creator.

@nessisonett Insulting someone by implying they're gay as a negative thing is a very strong take that you’ll need to elaborate on given its use by neo Nazis. Bluesky is cringe but you’re verging on the obscene with insults like that.

@Flaming_Kaiser

You don't need work to have a life. Plenty of stay at home parents, retirees and disabled people still enjoy life, still go out, have hobbies and socialise.

@nessisonett @PegasusActual93 It's not even a multi faith issue, it's an institutional and societal issue considering it's not only faith based groups. There's far more child abuse carried out in public schools than churches. In fact just Googling "child abuse teacher" and going to the news tab shows a conviction of a teacher everyday. Currently one about a music teacher in Essex Brentwood UK whose reign of abuse was for 40 years.

And coverups are sickeningly a big thing amongst all these institutions. Remember the child grooming scandal in England in Rochdale and Rotherham, covered up by police and councils for decades?

@Neither_scene @Athrum It needs delaying on PC since that had worst problems with literal PS1 textures.

I'm not sure Capcom know how to actually optimise games. I saw people who can run games like Black Myth Wukong, Silent Hill 2 and Death Stranding have problems on PC with Wilds and Wilds looks like a last gen game compared to those three games. Actually with those low texture characters and monsters so many were posting...it looks several generations behind lol.

@EchoRange

I've watched an hour of gameplay. All the dialogue has been bad. It's ok to admit it sucks. Don't pretend that it gets better lol.

@Northern_munkey

Not going to happen. Like you said, this is Ubisoft we're talking about and the series has been historically inaccurate since the beginning.

@LN78 I can think of numerous games of this generation that are way more overrated than Alan Wake 2. In fact from last year alone, I would say Baldur's Gate 3 is way more overrated.

@ATaco Tbf Yakuza is a gritty violent crime series outside of side content. Nothing in the main story is whimsical apart from the new Yakuza games which leaned too much into that stuff for the main story. Unless you want to count the five seconds of seeing a castle come out of the ground in 2 and the tiger fight but even then, that stuff is presented seriously same with 4's ridiculous rubber bullets plot piece.

I already called it that the show wouldn't feature all the side content and I don't know why anyone expected that it would.

Either way the show doesn't sound good... another thing I called.

@Artois2 That's where Yakuza now belongs, where the sun doesn't shine lol. The series is burnt out...

@LowDefAl Never heard that. Zelda sold 3.84 million copies in one month. We only have stats on Zero Dawn for two weeks at 2.6 million copies.

Meanwhile Zelda was the 5th best selling game of 2017. Horizon didn't make it into the top 10.

@LikelySatan No, if anything, the Yakuza franchise is "CODified" with its yearly releases and reused assets.

@RBMango I like the "jumpscares" and never thought anything bad about the performances of Mary/Maria. My only gripe would be that it's too easy, apparently like the original. It's a horror game but not "survival" for me because I never had any worry about enemies, ammo or health.

The game nailed the atmosphere and everything else though. 8 or 9? I'm not sure what I can decide on.

@Yagami Eh there's other games I would consider better than all three. Resident Evil 1-2 including their remakes in place of 4. Silent Hill 2 in place of Snake Eater. Nioh 2 in place of Dark Souls. And you know, the game Yagami is from, Judgement, I would consider better than Snake Eater, Dark Souls and Resident Evil 4.

And that's not getting into Nintendo games, which strangely are never discussed here. Zelda, Metroid, Mario games etc. Ocarina of Time is still the highest rated game of all time. Even recent Zeldas are high up, with Breath of the Wild being often at the top of people's personal lists.

@McTwist No, it's baffling to say MGS is the best gaming series ever and deny legitimate criticism as people just trying to be contrarian. That's just plain fanboyism especially when legitimate criticism exists, including especially for MGS2, 4 and most commonly 5.

MGS isn't even anywhere near as influential as other game series to be "the sole best of all time."

@Matroska Remove blood next. What about people with hemophobia? Get rid of caves too. What about people with claustrophobia? Heights? What about people with a phobia of heights?

It's less about the game being "woke" and more about people wondering how a series that was originally dark fantasy and somewhat "gritty" is toning down the "darkness" because some people are apparently scared of fictional things in a video game, including things that are part of the real world. I wonder if the removal of giant spiders also means there won't be any small ones in the environment or cobwebs.

That's just being too sensitive.

@C25CLOUD I think you're the one who is clueless if you're one of those people who believe "all art is political." You only believe that now because some rando on the internet somehow convinced you that the painting of The Scream is about intersectional class struggle rather than the human condition of anxiety lol.

The fact Dragon's Dogma 2 is there but not Black Myth Wukong or Stellar Blade, despite the later two having higher ratings from players and critics alike, shows these awards are already irrelevant.

If the Game Awards is the same thing, it'll also expose them as being irrelevant.

Could be political for the reason these games aren't included. As we know, some journalists have been upset with these two games accusing them of sexism.

@The_Wailing_Doom The only exclusive on this list is Until Dawn. A remaster of a PS4 game...and wait it's also releasing the same day on PC too.

So yeah, where are the exclusives? Unless you want to count the timed exclusive of Silent Hill 2 which is also releasing the same day on PC too? Strange hill to die on but you do you.

@Shad361 We can use the same logic to your argument. Cherry picked games. What about Suicide Squad failing? Concord? Redfall? Babylon's Fall? Marvel's Avengers and the inevitable failure of the upcoming Sony Fairgames?

Besides, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing and Smash Bros are all also single player with extensive single player content. Meanwhile Animal Crossing, much like Elden Ring, was mainly brought for its single player component. It having multiplayer is just a plus. That's something you ignored. None of the games you listed are live service multiplayer only games. Few live service games are actually successful and not many even come close to the success of Fortnite or Call of Duty. Even established franchises like Halo tried and failed. Halo Infinite is practically dead, regularly being beaten on Steam by its non live service counterpart: the Halo MCC collection.

Meanwhile strictly single player experiences continue to do well like others have said, like the recent example of Black Myth Wukong.

If Nintendo thought single player was dead, we wouldn't have got Zelda TOTK last year, a new top down Zelda this year and we wouldn't be getting Metroid Prime 4 next year. There also wouldn't be any new 3d Mario games ever again.

He's right. None of it makes sense but it's got nothing to do with any religious concepts anymore. Instead today it's out of fear of offending anyone or being accused of not "being inclusive" especially when it comes to the gender removal.

Then again, what's the point complaining if they won't do anything about it? Go with the higher age rating and if they, like many, find the "body type" in place of gender stupid, remove it. Or does the publisher make these decisions?

@thefourfoldroot1 Ummm...you can't have both. If you're asking for the handheld too, then games will be developed for it in mind too. Besides, prior gen has already held this generation back. In fact that's consoles all over since obviously PC is way ahead.

@johnedwin No not always true. There's so many games widely agreed to be masterpieces that are like 8/10 on Metacritic like Ghost of Tsushima, Nioh 2, Streets of Rage 4, Hi Fi Rush, Yakuza 0, Judgment, Metroid Dread (which also won GOTY awards) etc.

And this year, the most successful and most well received game by players is Wukong. 8/10 on Metacritic but most people are saying it's GOTY.

What these games all have in common is player reviews and player consensus of these games is much higher.

Then you have games like Dragon's Dogma 2, Cyberpunk and Fallout 4 which has high critic scores but low scores from players. So yeah, critic scores aren't always accurate.

@jamison1993 Yeah Suda is spitting straight facts here. There's also the fact that waaay too many people cite Metacritic critic scores as if they're the gospel truth.

@Jrs1 "Obviously not enough under age school girls in astro bot, so no chance of high sales in the native territory."

What a silly and salty comment. The best selling games of last year in Japan were Zelda, Mario, Pikmin and Kirby. None of these franchises are about underage school girls.

The reason why Astro Bot is not selling well in Japan is because all the players who want adventure or platform games, have Nintendo Switches instead. Sony has long lost the market in Japan. That's just a fact.

@LifeGirl Why would Nintendo wish they brought Playstation when they're doing better than Playstation?

@DennisReynolds Things are more focused again after Chapter 3 and I can't see anything else this year being GOTY apart from maybe Stalker 2. Also I thought Chapter 3 was fine.

@somnambulance

No, it's because it's a genuinely good game. It's also based on Journey to the West, which is heavily popular in Asia and already had hype following it before release.

I remember seeing this game years ago and thinking it looks amazing.

I'd also say it's a 9/10 game imo. The boss fights alone blow every boss from other action games and action RPGs out of the water.

With Dragon's Dogma 2 being not very good, having big performance issues and clearly being rushed, I wonder if it's linked to that.

Capcom seemed to have invested a lot into influencers advertising the game rather than investing in polishing the game.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner I have a bridge to sell you if you think any of the games there aren't there for marketing or product placement.

Publishers have paid for them all, guaranteed.

This game looks better than the last time I saw it. Combat looks great.

Crazy how these Chinese developer came out out of nowhere and are making all these good looking games and after Black Myth, no longer do I question if they're legit. That game delivered.

@PuppetMaster Ninja Gaiden is MIA. DMC is still a series that is alive. We got 5 in 2019. Ninja Gaiden on the other hand, last one was 2012...(let's not speak about the Western made spin off from 2014...)

@RagnarLothbrok Neither. There is leveling but health and stamina increases are minimum, it's mainly about unlocking new skills and upgrading existing ones including the spells, transformations and using the set bonuses of armour.

It plays like its own game. I'd say its difficulty is harder than those games though.

I got it on release and have found it to be amazing so far. Great gameplay and the bosses are insanely fun to fight too. I'm on Chapter 3 right now and still finding new things out about the combat. The environment in the 3rd chapter is beautiful too.

I've been pleasantly surprised by the exploration too. After Chapter 1, there is actually good exploration to be had between bosses and more regular enemies to fight too and I've been enjoying fighting them too.

All the NPCs are a crazy cast of characters as well and this game has great dialogue. I'm surprised Wukong hasn't talked since the prologue though.

For me, the game is GOTY so far.