Topic: Going back to PS3...

@Gamer83: Huh I didn't realized that MS finished 3rd, I thought they were 2nd. And I totally forgot about Nintendo but yeah they definitely did it to and they are still feeling the damage from it. Heck that arrogance help create the Playstation brand. But yeah I totally agree with you on this one all companies do it ad one point or another they reach the top and think they are untouchable.

@Tasuki:
The best one will always be Sega thinking it could release the Saturn during an E3 press conference. Brilliant idea. To be fair, I'm not sure that was arrogance so much as just plain stupidity. That company was so dysfunctional with the in-fighting between the Japanese and U.S. branch that I don't think it had time for arrogance. But talk about begging to lose. No hype, no marketing, no giving developers time to prepare launch games. Terrible.

@Gamer83: Lol yeah I think that might have been a little of both. Maybe even with a bit of fear. After the success of the Genesis I would say the arrogant part was with the release of the CD and 32X. With those failers and the the PS coming out it was more of a moment of desperation and fear. And well it cost them big time.

I never understood the hate for PS3's UI. I always thougt it was pretty good. Very intuitive and simple to use. I liked it the instant I first used it. The 360 on the other hand, from my experience with it, has a more convoluted, less intuitive, and just overall poorer interface. I remember being a bit confused the first couple times I used it. Honesty, I'm not sure if I'd say the PS4's UI is better.

@Tasuki:
Yup, entirely possible fear played into it. After those disastrous add-ons Sega probably felt it had to beat Sony and Nintendo to the market but went about it very poorly.

@Gamer83: From my understanding that was what it was. Originally the Saturn was going to launch on September 2nd 1995 in NA they even dubbed that day "Saturnday" since it fell on a Saturday. However once Sega of Japan found out Sony's NA release date they panicked and told Sega of America to move up the release date. Which from my understanding Sega of America didn't want to do but had no choice.

@Tasuki:
I remember hearing about 'Saturnday' but forget the full story behind it. That makes sense though, Sega Japan and Sega America could never get on the same page. If they could've, who knows, maybe we'd still be gaming on Sega consoles. Not going to lie, I wouldn't mind that. The only reason Dreamcast isn't the greatest console of all-time is because it's shelf life got cut short. It's still a top 3, and Genesis would rank in my top 5. Great company done in by mind boggling business decisions.

@Gamer83: Yeah the Dreamcast was a great console definitely in my top 5, but sadly it was doomed even before it launched. Sega burnt to many bridges with the Saturn NA release date and by the time DC came out it was to little to late. As you said if only Sega of Japan and America were on the same page. That was just a case of too many cooks.

For some reason though there are always rumors that Sega will make a new console. Too bad it is not true.

As for PS3 always seemed slow to me (not super slow like the Wii U), even though I liked the UI.

@belmont: The rumors are usually started by Sega fanboys who just don't want to see Sega die. They love the DC and want more. I mean I wouldn't mind another Sega console but honestly I don't see them coming back unless they go the Coleco Chameleon route and someone else makes the system and Sega just allows their name to be used. Right now it's not a wise business move for Sega as they have been out of the console business for 15 years now. They would have to restructure the whole company and along with their finances. Create an R&D part of the company with new staff who are up to date with consoles of today. It's not as easy as it sounds.

@Tasuki: In another forum I had a discussion on if/how Sega could somehow make a console. A friend said that the NX could be a Steam machine with a Nintendo "application" for its exclusive first party games (new games plus full Virtual Console BC). A somewhat good NX Steam machine could defeat the drought problem between first party releases and may make some AAA third party games playable via steam, although not on high settings, like expensive PCs.

Then another friend proposed the idea for a Sega Steam machine in the above sense. Steam plus Sega exclusive content via a application with new and retro Sega games. The target group would obviously be the hardcore Sega fans. A Steam machine would not have the usual console developer costs or need for R&D. In practice you can make one yourself if you buy spare parts.

Of course nothing of this will happen and Sega will not release a new console. Even though I couldn't afford a Dreamcast back in the day I am a Sega fan from the Game Gear era so I wouldn't mind a new experiment from them. As for old Sega fans most should be 28+ years old. They should understand how difficult is to make a console.