Topic: Fanboyism is the greatest stink in the universe

Hey mates, I just would like to hear your personal take on this without it turning into a flameware or ****storm or whatever...
See, I read almost all coverage about next gen consoles and even closely follow Nintendo just out of pure interest in the industry as such. Personally I'd refrain from calling myself a fanboy but my preference seems to lie with Sony atm. I say atm because I also was once a PC-enthusiast (still have one) and had actually 3 XBOX 360s (red ring of death...) in the past 7 years... but since I got my PS3 slim and am romping through the many exclusives of Sony, I have to say my console of choice next gen will be the PS4. So that doesn't mean I go onto comments and blogs on lets say IGN and flame or troll XBOX fans. Who actually does that? I mean... seriously, it hurts my brain so much these days reading through the comments on IGN its awful.

I think I like Sony more, as a company and for their games, but am I happy if the XBOX one fails miserably? No I am not, since the industry we all love and care about needs competition. Honestly I think MS deserves some backlash for all their crap they pulled lately I'd never go as far as insult someone who likes the XBOX one. Seriously?! Why?

Whats your take on that?
Elitist fanboy or just a gamer that has a preference?

Everyone has an opinion and different tastes.
I will never insult someone that has an opinion or preference different than mine and I will never judge consoles.
I tend to be neutral with all these console war thing but I will always follow and buy those consoles from  companies that offer me those amazing games I've looking foward to.
I think its a shame that people get blinded with all these fanboyism and start getting one sided opinions or impressions of must of the things.
In the end, all that matters is have fun playing these amazing games.
That's why I don't let people call me fanboy because I'm just a gamer.

I agree that fanboyism stinks. I have a little in me and I hate it. I can reckonize it though and suppress when possible. I'm not that bad with it becaue I don't let myself get bad with it. So most of the time calling me a fanboy would probably be invalid. It's really annoying when someone ignores all reason becaue they're a fanboy. Or in one case I've seen, changes the reason till it fits what he wants to see lol.

I definitly have a raging PS4 in my pants, I'm partial to Sony (owned awhopping 7 360's all e-73 and 74 although the newer console model is much better) but I will be getting both the xb1 and PS4. I hate what Microsoft stands being an american company that outsources most its jobs, butthe industry would be far worse off without heathy compitition. Fanboyizm is honestly dumb consumerism, these companies sole purpose is to get your money and our sole purpose should be being entertained to the fullest extent. Both systems will have alot to offer, I already payed for my PS4 and will buy the xb1 sometime early 2014 and I'm sure each will be fun and unique. Wtth all that said Sony rocks and so far the console seems all around better feature wise and for raw power but hardware numbers can be deceiving.

I think fanboyism has gone out of control. I might prefer one console over the other but I never go out my way to bash or insult someone because they have a different taste in games or consoles. I have friends who are blinded XBOX fanboys and its a struggle because they are my friends but their view on Playstation is so ignorant and misinformed. Having a console conversation with them is pointless. I can accept my console of choice faults but they can't accept theirs and their console can do no wrong. I would say that I am a gamer that has a preference and I prefer the PS3 and the PS4.

In my experience I find that Xbox has more fanboys than the others combined and it hurts to have a conversation with Xbox fans. That said, I stay away from Nintendo Life these days partly because of how much its fans are in denial, and support Nintendo's direction despite all of its stupid decisions lately. I used to be a Nintendo fanboy when I was a kid, but I started playing Playstation 2 in college and Nintendo slowly made all the wrong moves to alienate core gamers, which began with their refusal to import the Operation Rainfall games. Maybe they intended to do it all along, but it seemed to me just like Microsoft sticking to their guns with their idiotic Xbone decisions. Then, when they reverse their decisions they try to say "look, we listen to the fans, derp!"

As far as berating other people for choosing the Xbox goes, yes, I do it, because it represents everything that shouldn't be happening in the gaming industry, to me. And to be honest, I had hoped Microsoft stuck with their ridiculous policies at their reveal because I hope Xbox goes down hard so future gaming companies can see what they can't possibly get away with. I love, love, love Nintendo, but I kind of hope they go down, too, but not for the same reason. I think they can pick themselves back up and get back in the game (pun intended) and stop being so ignorant about everything.

Thank you so far for that conversation, I agree with most of you all really. I also DO see the failures of a company, be it the one I favor or the competitions, that said I was really annoyed and a bit "let down" as a long time Nintendo fan seeing Nintendo making all the wrong decisions with their Wii U, starting with the name, the branding, the console architecture... everything. This and the big screwup MS was doing (combined with the fact that I was growing "out" of their exclusives as they seemed to casualize more and more) brought me to the PS3/PS4 and I eventually will pick up a Vita too. Like many of you said, I am a GAMER and I play games it doesn't matter on WHICH or on HOW MANY consoles (because there's also the vibe on the internetz that youre only a true gamer if you go for multiple consoles... pff...).

Its good to hear that not everyone in the gamming community isn't completly affected with this plague.

"Fanboyism is the greatest stink in the universe". Hmm, that's probably a slight exaggeration, though it can be really annoying. Syria using sarin gas on its own people probably constitutes a greater stink, at least this week.

To be honest, the world is actually full of over enthusiastic, one-eyed buffoons, and they are not just limited to gamers. Football supporters would probably also hold a greater claim and don't even get me started on political parties. Gamers are just one cog in a very large wheel. If being opinionated yet ignorant was suddenly made a crime, society may very well crumble.

Seriously though. I have got nothing against people taking sides and supporting their "team", as long as they are not rude or nasty. Sony, MS and Nintendo want us to get on side and cheer. Even if some websites get downed by gamers making endless ill-informed comments, I am not going to get ruffled by it. We need to cast a critical eye over everything we read/hear/believe in life. It's no different.

From the industries perspective, we absolutely need the competition. The worst thing that could happen is for one of the "big 3" to fall. Competition drives innovation and also keeps them all honest. MS would have gotten away with its DRM debacle if it wasn't for Sony. Sony had to "re-launch" the pS3 in 2009.

Personally, I was in the PS3 camp this generation (I don't own both), but have played the 360 at friends' houses. There were a few MS games that I have missed out on that I would have enjoyed, but I would have missed out on more if I didn't have a PS3. Naughty Dog and Quantic Dream are almost enough to keep me in the Sony camp on their own.
For next gen, I am still in Sony's camp at this stage. MS has done nothing to win me over and has actually done a lot to lose "trust". I am probably not up with as much MS news as I could be, though I am following their announcements. Quantum Break is the XB title that most intrigues me this time round and perhaps Titanfall. Nintendo, simply don't make any games that interest me. I can appreciate what they do, but they are aiming for a completely different demographic. Pikman 3 is a classic example. Great game, that would bore me stupid.

I guess I am saying that perhaps we all have a little bit of "fanboy" tendency in us, and that's perhaps not such a bad thing. Personally I try to temper it by keeping an open mind and a critical eye, maybe I don't always succeed. If other's embrace it, well, as long as they are not being rude or offensive, then they are not hurting anyone and are best just ignored.

Hmmm... to be honest, I forgot how much animosity their is in Console wars, I have been a PC gamer for many years of the PS3/XBOX360 era. That being said, until recently I owned an XBOX for the most part of it, (which was a dust collector).
I like the fact that I have had the opportunity to play both consoles, it has allowed me to make a formulated opionion based on my experience.
For me personally, I prefer the PS3, simply because of the number of amazing exclusives on offer... but I also accept that the online experience that XBOX offer is better than PS (rightfully so, since you have to pay for it). It really comes down to what you as a person wants from a console. I get the feeling that at the moment, the gaming world is torn between "old school" gamers that want unique exclusives that tell fantastic stories and and really utilise the hardware of a sysyem (PS3 )- & those that want epic online action with their buddies i.e. CoD x, Battyfield y (XBOX360).  For me, I can get the latter from a PC (online for free too), aswell as play some "xbox exclusives" - But, titles on the PS3, can only be played on the PS3.

Whoops, I guess the above sounds a little fanboyish ...
Actually, my friend at work recently tried to take the piss out of me for playing PS, let me tell you... he doesn't anymore, in fact he is considering getting a PC

Please note before I post that unfortunately I am a "FanBoy" of Sony. I really tried not to be one this time around but well MS made it easy for me. I don't go around writing XBONE sucks in online threads or anything like that, I do prefer to have rational discussions on either system merits. As far as competition goes yes it is needed to give us the consumer better value..... But the type of competition MS brings is unwelcome in my opinion the only thing I can see that it brought us was paid for services that "should" be free. If they fall out of the big three I personally would not loose any sleep there WILL be someone else to take their place ( SEGA I wish )The most sad thing for me with this upcoming gen was the loss of the Cell CPU, It was difficult to code for yes! but from a technical view it was a flawed but brilliant processor. What other chip could at the time of release could make up for a weak gpu. With refinement I think it could have been the next step in CPU technology. (P.s I am also a AMD Fanboy 16 spu cell + a nice Radeon would have made me have a serious crises

- I am an AMD Fanboy! you should see my PC Build, its as AMD as I can get it (Just waiting for the AMD HDD!) housed in an CM 922 AMD Edition.
- I have a custom painted Dreamcast, done by myself obviously ^^ With only one bodge, thanks to a slug...

Wow, we share similar interests!

That's a pretty sweet case!!!!
Don't do that to me makes me want to build a new pc again! (must wait till 2014, must wait till 2014)

I think Nintendo fanboys are the worst of the big three. That is coming from someone that loves Nintendo. I post less and less on Nintendo Life because of it.

Ha interesting parts there about AMD and PC in general, let me put my 2cents to that.

I personally (with a PC background, Nintendo background, XBOX background) think that the CELL processor of the PS3 was actually what held it back in the beginning. You know something can be innovative and awesome on paper but if its so complicated to code for that many devs shy away from it, what good is it? I mean, now that the PS4 is on the x86 platform like a PC coding for it will be MUCH easier. And still since it's a dedicated system to gaming and doesn't need "across the band" optimization like PC games do, Im pretty sure we will see stunning results QUICKER than ever before in any console gen.

And yes if I had to take sides PC-wise im in the radeon/amd camp as well. I have a self-assembled gaming PC made from mostly AMD and republic of gamers parts. But honestly, without wanting to rain onto anyones parade, I personally get too old for PC gaming. Im 31 now and grew up with all of that, the PC I have was built like a year ago and it's still quite capable, but I almost don't play on it anymore. I grew "comfortable". I want my one-go-to box for my gaming needs (which is now PS3 and will be PS4 soon) and I don't like mouse+keyboard anymore, I don't like all the cables anymore, the huge space my PC takes up and I like the sony exclusives, so...

Ah yeah and of course the biggest gripe I have about PC gaming is that I never get enough. As soon as I cannot play a game on ULTRA high settings anymore this URGE sets in to upgrade, like "this is not as good as this game COULD look" etc... but honestly, its crap. when I have a console I applaud the devs to whatever they squeezed out of it and thats it. THIS IS how the game looks. period. It may sound odd to some, but it gives me peace of mind!

Oh yeah and about Nintendo, really, I am (somewhat still) and always was a Nintendo fan. But no fanboy. If someone makes a crap decision it's just crap. Sony fumbled the PS3 launch, Nintendo completely lost grasp of this world with Wii U and 2DS in my opinion and MS IS going to completely flop the Xbone launch.

Well you see, Xbone will still sell plenty and there are MANY fanboys, but I guess everyone that is not sworn to MS and still has an objective mind about all the consoles, HAS to go PS4 (or multiconsole).

well thats at least my impression

As somebody who's not sworn to any of these companies and finds all three to be quite the f**k ups at times, I'll say if I hadn't already pre-ordered PS4 after E3 as to not miss out, I would be leaning much more to X1 since its policy reversals. I like indie games but they don't make a console, especially a $400 high-powered machine like PS4, worth it, and when I look at MS' first-year lineup, the AAA exclusives blow away what PS4 is offering and XBLA will still provide plenty of those smaller releases to compliment the bigger productions very nicely. The balance on PS4 is not there yet, but I'm looking at it as more of a long-term investment at this point, much like PS3 was. It'll be a weak 2 or 3 years then get great after that.

Completely agree with you on this and it's also why I don't comment or post too often on NL. And that's a shame because I actually really do like the coverage there. It's probably the best source for Nintendo news right now.

Nintendo fanboys (the extremely hardcore ones) are the Apple fanboys of video games.
To be honest, though, PC master race folks are the ones that bother me the most. It's fine if you prefer it, but don't go out and be condescending towards me because I choose to play games on a cheaper system and don't want to go through the trouble of building a PC.

Although, to be perfectly frank, I found Sony fanboys to be the worst during the first half of this console generation. There's even a handy-dandy article about it written in 2009, when I shared the sentiments within. http://www.destructoid.com/fact-ps3-fan … 9259.phtml

After late into the generation, fanboyism started to die down.

And then the new consoles got announced and the IGN comments section turned into hell.

Sony fanboys from 2006-2008 were pretty damn bad. I was a subscriber to PSM around that time and you couldn't type anything in the comment section of its website even slightly negative towards Sony without some idiot flipping out and calling you an Xbox or Wii fanboy eventhough anybody with half a functioning brain cell could tell you Sony and the PS3 were laughing stocks back then. Seemed like fanboyism was going away in 2009 but at least among the people I talk to it came back in 2011 when my friends who love Nintendo got on my case for calling NoA exactly what is was by initially refusing to release those 'Operation Rainfall' games here despite the fact the Wii had literally nothing worth a damn in 2011 except Zelda which was a Nov. release. Since that time I've noticed Nintendo fans get very, very uptight if you're not just puckering up and kissing their corporate mother's a$$.

About the ps4 and indie thing. This keeps popping up and without wanting to sound too fan boyish myself, I just don't get how having a lot of indies on your system turned out to be something cited as negative for ps4 honestly! As I see it ps4 has exactly the same cross platform third party games like xboxone plus it's exclusives which seem to be spread out more over launch window AND awesome free to play titles like war thunder and planet side 2 which both could easily carry the console into late march 2014 on free content alone.

I personally don't see that value with Xbox one and as I have no interest in any of their exclusives as killer instinct see rushed, I grew tired of forza, Ryse looks like a QuickTime event slugfest and halo is miles off... On top of that I dot trust ms as a brand anymore after all that policy screw ups, smaller launch market, kinect voice commands only for 5 markets at launch, no external jd supported a lt launch etc... It all adds up to the impression that they are far from done with developing the console.

Again that's my personal impression and everyone is free to choose whatever they want, I just still don't get why some people make it like strong indie support is something bad, it's not like ps4 gets less triple a titles because of that strong indie support AT ALL it just means more choice for us players and more chance for smaller studios...

I think ms generally needs to restructure. After windows 7 it doesn't look like they had success with anything.. Oh and yeah I'm in the apple camp.