Topic: Your Latest PS4 Purchase

@Voltan hmm, maybe it’ll be a good choice then 🤞

@Thrillho I got the platinum in both and honestly I don't remember them being too hard but I could be wrong
I think I got the 2nd one first and then gone back to the 1st though.

@colonelkilgore It looks like you’ve come up with a game plan already, but I’ll still throw in my 2 cents (2 pence?) and give you perhaps a little more food for thought. Which you can take or leave, I won’t be offended either way —

Traditionally, I’ve not been a fan of 2D Metroidvania. The ‘getting lost’ part is the worst aspect of it. When I played Guacamelee I suffered the same fate you described of giving up on the game after a couple hours because I didn’t know where I was supposed to go. I also had a similar experience with Muramasa Rebirth, despite loving all the other aspects to the game combat, I just couldn’t find my way around the map. Had pretty much the same experience with Strider, gave up on that after a few hours too.

I’d sworn off of 2D Metroidvanias thereafter, but what warmed me back up to them was actually Dead Cells. And it’s interesting that you were also trying to dip your toe into the waters of Roguelikes too because actually Dead Cells is what they called a “Roguevania” since it has Metroidvania type of layout whereby it has a large interconnected map and you open up paths to new areas that you need to backtrack through; but also has Roguelike elements as well with procedural generation and permadeath. I think the procedural generation of each run makes the Metroidvania parts less glaring. There is a certain way you have to approach the map, but at least every time you go through a certain sub-world it is relatively fresh in it’s specific layout.

So Dead Cells might be another consideration if you want to have a light introductory exposure to both 2D Metroidvania and Roguelike. I quite enjoyed the game, although once I beat the final boss and had a successful run, I didn’t go back and do all the post-game supplemental content that I read about.

After a pleasant experience with Dead Cells I later had a really great time with Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. It was a Game Club game we played here on the forum a couple years ago and so I benefitted from a little of the peer support in getting through it together, but overall I really liked it. Much more than I expected to. I not only beat the game, but enjoyed the entire ride.

So suffice it to say, I’m not scared or put off about Metroidvanias anymore, and I figure that if I went back to Guacamelee that I might find it more appealing now. But I can’t get out of my head how frustrating it was to be going back and forth over the same areas again and again looking for the next place to further the story. It’s the one impression that’s burned into my memory.

@Th3solution nah feel free buddy, always appreciate as many perspectives as possible 👍. Funnily enough, I just bought Dead Cells on Friday! A mate of mine played it about a year ago and absolutely loved it but I was going through my ‘strictly no 2D games’ period (which won’t actually end until I play my next 2D game tbh).

So… and this in no way reflects my ‘weighting’ of your opinions, I am gonna hold off on starting Dead Cells for the time being. Reason being, I’ve watched a load of reviews and video-essays on it this weekend… and I can tell I AM GONNA LOVE IT! Thing is, to maximise my enjoyment of it, I wanna familiarise myself with the two genres it is merging. I was already gonna start playing rogue-likes/lites anyway (I’ve probably got around 5 or 6 in the backlog as it stands)… but this is the reason I’ve been reconsidering dipping my toe back into metroidvanias. I wanna have a bit of experience in the tank when I eventually take it on, as I think it will only accentuate how much i will get out of it. I’ll be sure to tag you when I get there, that’s for sure 👊.

Further to all this metroidvania talk, and having read again and again (since looking into the subject) how great it is… just picked up Axiom Verge as it’s on sale.

I played guacamelee after it was free on plus years ago, loved it, got obsessed with finding every last nook and cranny and the secrets contained within. At the time I wouldn't have considered that i would enjoy 2d platforming games. So turns out I was wrong. The post game stuff needed for the plat was a real test of my dexterity and my patience but I prevailed. Picked up the sequel in a sale and enjoyed that too, if anything I found it a bit easier though maybe that was due to familiarity and experience. Both guacamelee games are well worth the time - if you wanna be a luchador and occasional chicken.

Dead cells I only picked up a few months back and it's also great. I personally wouldn't even put it in the metroidvania category, it's a rougelite with slight metroidvania elements in that skills obtained can open up new paths for future runs. For me a metroidvania involves unlocking new abilities and backtracking through previously completed areas to utilise them. With Dead Cells there is no backtracking, it's ever forwards towards victory or death. So far I've only beat the game on default setting but I do drop in for another attempt from time to time. It's still pretty awesome.

Personally thinking I should get to iconoclasts at some point as it's been in the backlog for quite a while.

@colonelkilgore
If you really wanna get into rougelikes/lites I would very much recommend Enter the Gungeon. I rate as one of my favourite games I played on the PS4. Though I have recommended it to friends and I know it's definitely not to everyone's tastes. It is hard, it doesn't hold your hand or explain itself but it is a real retro blast and clearly crafted with love.

@Sorteddan Plus Dead Cells has the best sounding frying pan in a video game!

@Sorteddan yeah I regret not adding it when it was part of the free games during the summer. I do have a few though, I’ve picked up Risk of Rain 2, Hades, Wizard of Legend, Curse of the Dead Gods… and obviously Dead Cells. So it’s not as if I’m scratching about for a rogue-like/lite.

I will keep my eye out on Enter the Gungeon though… high praise indeed given the generation that the PS4 has had.

Hi guys!

I purchased Lost Judgment Ultimate Edition a week ago. It was written that its compatible with PS4 and PS5 version. But today i noticed that i can't find the games PS4 version in my library, only the PS5 version. However in the store, it is still written that PS4&PS5 version. Have somebody the same issue? At first i thought i refund the transaction, but maybe someone else has the same problem, and they will fix it. Thanks your answers beforehand!

Greetings!
Beni

@PWBeni Did you buy it through the app?

Bought a load of physical copies of games I already own digitally today… which must sound ridiculous to many but I’m gonna have my collection on display in my new gaming room… and gaps in series’ gives me conniptions:

Doom (2016), Resident Evil: Revelations, Resident Evil: Revelations 2, Hitman 2 & Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes

Then I also managed to find a copy of the original Divinity: Original Sin and I grabbed a previously owned Mass Effect: Legendary Edition for £35… which is more than I like to pay for previously owned games but it is three awesome games.

@colonelkilgore I thought you bounced off of Divinity Original Sin. Or am I misremembering that?

@Th3solution yeah you’re mostly right, it was the sequel though… but I do want to try it again at some point. And well, those conniptions at only having a part two when there is also a part one etc.

I’ve been low-key keeping an eye out for the original for a while but it’s pretty rare… was quite the surprise to stumble on one yesterday.

@Th3solution I bounced off the first game recently, so you may be remembering that.

@JohnnyShoulder Oh yeah that’s right, you did try it not too long ago and it didn’t click for you.
I picked up the second game a while back when I saw it cheap and I have been reluctant to move it up the backlog chain.

@JohnnyShoulder @Th3solution I tried the second one a couple of years back… the world and lore seem phenomenal but as ever with me it’s the turn-based action.

I am gonna give them (1 & 2) another go though, as if I can click with the action I know I’ll love everything else… and I ain’t getting any younger. These cat-like reflexes have got to wain sooner or later 😉

Just purchased Disgaea 1 Complete. Never played the first, think I chanced upon the series on number 3 back in the PS3 days so will be interesting to see how it all started.
Weirdly it was cheaper to buy from official site (NISEurope) than anywhere else I could find it, even cheaper than some pre-order copies!
So will stick it in the backlog and prepare myself for the grind...
Dood!

Just picked up Hitman HD Collection as @RogerRoger had just mentioned that Absolution had a fun trophy list and when I checked the PSStore the HD Collection was on sale.

@RogerRoger cheers dude, it was one of those situations where you receive a recommendation and the thing being recommended is currently going super-cheap for a short time only. A reflex purchase if ever there was one... glad I ended up with the better version.