The crowd, accepting this immediately, assumed the anti-Eurasian posters and banners everywhere were the result of acts of sabotage by agents of Goldstein and ripped them from the walls.
@LieutenantFatman I mean, if don’t don’t mind paying for some minor upgrades to a game whilst competitors are offering their players free upgrades, that’s on you. I’d like the best deal possible, personally.
@Kidfried Pre-orders for destruction all stars aren't gonna sell out lol. The console might be okay for the moment, but being silent on launch titles that don't have the weight and instant hype of Demon's Souls is a terrible idea that will affect sales for each title. I really wonder what is going on inside of Sony with these things and how they figure what will be a good idea. It's amazing how incompetent people who get such high-up positions can be.
@Jaz007 I think it is more to do with the pandemic and how difficult it is to get these things out. It is not like we have had loads of gameplay and deep dives on any games for Xbox (as far as I know)so it is the same for them too.
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@STLamy
I just think it's incredibly obnoxious entitlement to demand companies give up improved versions of their products for free. If they want to charge for the additional time and work they've put into something, it's their right to do so. They shouldn't have to justify that.
If the original version had been broken or felt unfinished, that would of course be different.
@LieutenantFatman I’m not demanding it. I’m stating that many releases are getting free upgrades, including many COMPETITOR releases. The precedent has been set. It looks bad for Sony if they decide to charge across the board.
Where did I demand free upgrades? Charge for it all you want, but if you can’t see the disconnect compared to the wider industry here that’s on you. There’ll be articles upon articles, and they’ve already started. On this very site for instance!
@LieutenantFatman Yeah, I agree with @STLamy, it’s not that we’re demanding free upgrades, it’s just a bad look. Sony are getting decimated in the marketing war because of a buildup of these decisions undermining the perceived value of PS5.
@LieutenantFatman The point is that there really shouldn’t be that much information that hasn’t been revealed when you can put down money for the console right now, which many on here have. You should be able to buy the console based on its merits rather than a promise of merits/good rep from the PS4 era.
@nessisonett
Yes, it would be nice to have more information at this point. Although the console selling out of allocated units in such a short time frame suggests that hasn't caused them any major problems so far. I'm happy to wait and see to be honest.
@Kidfried
Yes, very true, people being so overdramatic about such trivial issues can be quite amusing on occasion. But when it's constant, then not so much.
@LieutenantFatman
PushSquare is becoming like IGN with keyboard warriors winding themselves up. It's not safe keeping your cool about gaming consoles. They will come for you haha
The crowd, accepting this immediately, assumed the anti-Eurasian posters and banners everywhere were the result of acts of sabotage by agents of Goldstein and ripped them from the walls.
@JJ2
Yes, it does seem to be headed in that direction. We don't have to look far in life to find something to moan about, personally I prefer to focus on the positive. It is a hobby after all.
@nessisonett I agree - we should know by now what the PS5 offers - more than just the games coming up that will be releasing for it. We should know what the user experience is like, what Sony's approach to Backwards Compatibility is etc etc.
@LieutenantFatman I know its sold out - although we don't know how many units that is - just that the demand is higher than the supply of the initial stock. A lot of that is due to faith and the exclusives and regardless of the 'details', they would be buying it anyway because its a Playstation and a lot bought to sell on straight away to make a quick profit.
I doubt any would cancel if they found out that the only advantage to BC for example was loading times because of the faster Data throughput. For example if the PS5 switched half the GPU off and downclocked to 800Mhz to mimic a PS4 or downclocked to 911mhz for Pro enhanced so didn't really get much of a 'boost' (other than a slight boost because of Architecture). Wouldn't cancel if the new UI looks awful etc - not to say any of that is the case - because its still a Playstation, still the only place to play Playstation exclusives and going to play multi-gen and multi-platform releases better than the current Gen allows them too. You aren't going to be playing Assassins Creed at 60fps, not going to be able to play Dirt 5 at 120fps, not going to be playing games like Ratchet & Clank, Godfall or Demon Souls at all and not going to get the Haptic feedback on a DS4 either.
These people will buy a PS5 regardless. Compared to other console releases in recent years and of course what their competition have released by comparison about the hardware, there is a still a LOT that isn't known, a lot of 'secrecy' that leads to speculation and arguments. A lot of Drama because there isn't accurate information being provided by Sony or 3rd Parties with actual hardware to demonstrate the features or backwards compatibility.
Does Sony offer Quick Resume? How fast do games load on BC compared to a PS4 Pro, what gains are there in games, how is the User Interface, can you play cross generation MP - play BC with your friends who won't be upgrading in the first month, will your saves work across ALL BC games, what about upgraded games (important if you are hoping to play games like AC:Valhalla, Cyberpunk etc on PS4 and upgrade later) etc as it seems like the upgraded versions won't transfer save files at all, what, if any, older games will be upgraded and will any be upgraded for free? Will those game saves transfer across - probably not! I could go on and a LOT of these are very important to some who are looking to make a seamless transition from one gen to the next. Want to know how their existing library will work, what gains can be had etc. If you are looking to buy a PS5 later on and looking to buy games that will be upgraded on PS5 but hoping to start them on PS4, you want to know whether that save file will carry over - otherwise is the game worth buying until you get your PS5? Losing 'hours' of progression is disappointing!
I will buy a PS5 regardless too so its not 'that' important - but I still want to know answers to all of those questions and more. I will buy a PS5 because its the ONLY way I can play Sony exclusive games - even if aspects really do disappoint (comparatively) - like no free first party upgrades with Sony opting to sell as 'Remasters' instead for example or very minor gains to BC because its only a very small 'boost' - not transformative. Its not 'disappointing' to be able to play BC games as that's a 'bonus' compared to PS4 or see 'remasters' released - that's pretty much what we have seen this gen - but compared to the competition, its a bit more disappointing...
Like I said, its not going to matter to some as they will buy a PS5 regardless because of the exclusives and/or because its 'their' preferred platform. But to know so little with just over 6weeks to launch (or 7weeks in the UK...), it is 'disappointing' and a bit frustrating too. Compared to the PS4 launch and even the PS4 Pro which wasn't a 'new' generation, we knew more about those than we do about this...
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