Topic: Returnal

@adrianthealchemist that bridge part on the way to get the vault key was the worst thing ever

So I got all 6 sun fragments (no thanks to a sodding guide which incorrectly says it was before the first drop and point of no return in B6) and defeated Ophion. Done all the house decisions too. But I guess I need to defeat Ophion again to complete Act 3, as the trophy did not pop?

I also got Scout log 66 in biome 4 which I thought would have popped the trophy for the survey, but it didn't as I've got all the glyphs in biome 4. Unless one of the two last scout logs (67 and 68) are in Biome 4? Really hope my trophies aren't glitched.

@adrianthealchemist Don't worry, you don't (as long as you used the key, unlike me the first time I got it ...).

@JohnnyShoulder Check the activity card for the survey? It should give you an idea of what you still need to do in that biome.

@adrianthealchemist The key is not permanent (I learned that the hard way by dying before reaching the vault with it) but if you opened the vault, it remains open

@JigsawPieces I think I tried that and it just came up with 'Continue to explore biome' or something like that. Before it would come up with a percentage and I think it it was at 98%. I'll double check tomorrow.

Quick question: How did Selene shoot down helios after the house segment?

@adrianthealchemist Quick tip. The last boss actually drops silphium sometimes so make sure to look around when you can (like between phases).

@Just_2_milky Using that big AA canon she woke up next to, apparently... but if you're asking how she could be on Atropos surface and inside Helios at the same time... I got nothing

@Just_2_milky @Voltan I think I read someones interpretation of that being that Selene goes back in time, so the echoing ruins are set before the overgrown ruins. I'm not sure how that works though as surely the fact that she saw herself crashing means that both the overgrown ruins and the echoing ruins exist at the same time. Perhaps that's just an oversight but I have a feeling that there is more to it than that.

@JohnnyShoulder Have you done the challenge room in that biome as they count towards the survey trophies?

@Kidfried Totally agree. I've finished the game and just enjoy reading other peoples experiences with it. I'm still tempted to delete my local save to start again but will play a few other games first I think. By then hopefully there might be some DLC 🤞

@render @Just_2_milky Well, the crash site exists in both so there's that...

@JohnnyShoulder You need to get all the fragments, do the last house sequence and only then defeat Ophion again - you need to use an item from the last house sequence in the area after the Ophion fight to trigger the other ending.

@render Yep, several times.

I just started the game up and the trophy popped for the survey! 🤷‍♂️

@Voltan My last sun fragment was in Biome 6, I was in a good place to take on the boss after clearing out Biomes 4 and 5, so didn't wanna reset that run. I need to go back and collect the last glyph and do the containment room anyway. I didn't find it that difficult tbh, but I did have over 200% health and the rest of my stats were pretty high.

I've got the six things I need for the true ending. Obviously I can't get back to the boss now.

:')

@JohnnyShoulder Sure, that's understandable - I'm just saying you probably haven't actually finished Act 3 yet

@johncalmc Make sure you do the house first. You need the 6 things to get the thing from the house that you need for the ending

@JohnnyShoulder That's most bizarre, but hey at least you got it in the end 😀

@velio84 I missed your comment about another thread for spoiler discussion. That's a good idea and I'm up for that if anyone else is?

@Voltan Yeah I've done all that already. I just keep trying to get back to the boss and I keep getting killed right before I get to it. It's the room after the drop that's getting me. Hopefully I can get the right weapon and then I should be able to sort it out.

@johncalmc Is that the one with the green tower in it? Gotta love that one, it's always a party in there!

@render @velio84 I like the idea. Definitely more convenient than using the spoiler tags. I’m not sure I’d have much input myself but I’d be interested in reading some wild takes