@Max_Headroom The thing is though that this is a first-party PlayStation game. You always expect the highest quality from Sony's studios and they always deliver. This is the first time I've been severely disappointed by a PlayStation game at launch.
There are also other problems I have with this game. The major issue is that it tries to teach you too many things at once. This is also an issue I had with God of War: Ragnarok. The games try to teach you so many different moves that I feel like I'm back in school all over again as I'm making an effort trying to remember everything. If you hold R1 + Triangle you can do this move, then if you yank enemies with Triangle and then hold Square to lift them up in the air you can yank them down from the air with Triangle. You can also use L1 + Circle for this move, and also L1 to parry, and L1 + X to throw Spider-Man in a slingshot fashion. I mean Jesus Christ, why are they dumping so much new stuff at you at once? I'm just trying to relax and have a good time. I don't want to remember a billion different moves! At least drip-feed them to me throughout the game.
I'm just hoping my experience improves soon because the game started out so well and then it went downhill so fast. I am tempted to wait for potential patches but I've already waited so long for this game that I just want to keep playing it. If it continues to glitch out then I'll probably put it on hold.
Thankfully no install problems or game breaking bugs here so far, but I have had more visual bugs than I expected.
I also fully agree with the tutorialisation, it does get better over time as you start to get a better grasp on things, but I also think the controls are so overdesigned there is always going to be a messiness to combat as you forget what certain combinations or holds of buttons do, and I am sure by the time I find a healthy rhythm for how I tackle combat I would have forgotten about more moves than I am currently using.
I am sure the sheer level of complexity to it all is great for those who really want to master the system, but I kinda wish there was like a simplified controls thing in the accessibility menu. I think there is auto combo, but I don't want the combat automated for me, I just kinda wanna disable certain moves so if I hold a button by accident I don't do something entirely different to what I intended to do, turning my combat into a slop bowl.
Happens with traversal too, can't tell you the amount of times an unintended button hold is the difference between landing where I wanted to land and firing myself like forty miles away from where I intended to go. And I get it skill issue etc but I can't think of another game that makes every button do so much work like this and in such a detrimental way.
@Max_Headroom Not sure but then it's a couple of quid. Who cares?
PS Just had a look and there are quite a few "new and sealed" listings for £60 delivered on eBay.
So I'm 10 hours into the game and it's a solid experience now. I was very unfortunate with my first hour, but the rest have been great. The story is compelling, the combat is so much fun and much more varied than in the first game, there are tons of great characters and the side content is more appealing as well as in moderate amounts compared to the first game. Not to mention that switching between Peter and Miles is fluid and doesn't ruin the pacing of the game at all. Also, the introduction of the web line has made stealth much easier in this game. Traversal is also much easier with the web wings.
I thought the first game was rather mediocre due to the lack of variety with the combat. Having now four different powers mapped to the L1 button and four different gadgets to the R1 button add so much more depth to the combat. On top of the upgrades, such as increased damage in air combat, which incentivises me to constantly throw enemies in the air and fight them there.
All in all, this is how a sequel should be. It improves upon the first game in every aspect, from the story to the combat to the open world, it's just amazing (pun intended).
Yeah the webline and the wingsuit are interesting, because they both seem like quite minor things in isolation, but they now just feel like such a natural part of the gameplay flow, I think it is going to be tough to replay the other games again without them.
the combat is crazy & definitely the highlight imo, i love it. but is it better than arkham knights though?? ehh, id say its a tie now, they both have their strengths . spidermans flashiness is always a spectacle.
Regarding the bugs and glitches, I was surprised to not see more talk about this. Admittedly, I didn't read much about the game so maybe it's been covered and I've missed it, but it seems like I'm only seeing talk about how buggy Spider-Man 2 is through Twitter etc.
For me, I only had one crash. But I had loads of other issues. Conversations being unclickable so I couldn't continue quests, items floating in mid-air, people flying or disappearing or generally being weird, Peter's hair disappeared at one point, and many, many more. I bet I didn't go an hour without some sort of bizarre technical hiccup.
Anyway, it didn't bother me so much. I beat the game and nearly got the platinum and yeah, it's messy, but it's the good kinda messy.
A weird consistent bug I have is subtitles being mistimed and out of order. As someone who needs subtitles to follow dialogue in games, this really kinda trips me up because the subtitles on screen are for three sentences away, or just mistimed so it all becomes jumbled. For a game with such an extensive suite of accessibility options, it is weird this has gone so wrong. I am not sure I have experienced anything quite like this in another game.
@Max_Headroom i needed a reason to finally use my ps5 again so i ain’t bothered by it , whatever reasons they have all i know is there’s no where else to play a high quality spider-man game (until it comes to PC 😏)
so i unlocked several suits but, let me guess, they saved the sam raimi suit for last ? i can’t blame them , gotta save the greatest of all time for last
@RogerRoger the disrespect! 😂 it should’ve been one of the last to unlock for new game plus imo, but it also makes sense for players to get it midway through the initial playthrough as well so that we can enjoy the suit & the story .
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