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Ravix

If your QB isn't this weird, then you aren't worth watching

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Pizzamorg

Fun season opener!

The first six or so weeks of the regular season are often like extended pre-season as lines gel, coordinators figure things out and rule changes get set, so I don't want to read too much into anything here long term, but in a vacuum I am pretty scared right now by how good the Chiefs looked in that game, Worthy seems a legit weapon for big plays, Pacheko remains a solid back and it seems like Kelce still got the juice when needed to be called upon.

On the flipside, things seem more complicated to me. The Ravens came out of the gate well, Henry looks like he still got juice, but then I dunno what happened, either the Chiefs D is clicking already, or the Ravens have some legit problems, cause I feel like it sort of collapsed for them after the first quarter.

It felt like they were asking Jackson to drop back and pass from the pocket a lot in this game and it felt like his line collapsed almost immediately on every play, so he was never able to get these plays off. Mahomes can twirl around like a ballerina and then launch a missile at the end like some sort of tactical Beyblade, and I trust Jackson to make those kinds of throws too, but he just wasn't finding people on the end of them like Mahomes was, so it felt like he was having to resort to a lot of runs. I know this is what people wanted from Jackson, but the dude gets hurt it feels like every season and seeming him run into defensive lineman over and over again after dropping all that weight gives me the fear.

Again, it may as well be pre-season so I don't think a Ravens fan should panic here. This could absolutely get better as chemistry is built etc and it may say more about just how good the Chiefs defence is, but I just thought it was something to keep an eye on if in late October we are watching Jackson bailing on the drop backs earlier and earlier, and taking harder and harder hits in the process.

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Ravix

@Pizzamorg they alluded to the fact they just don't have an O line at all, so that is why all that happened, I guess. I wasn't sure when they said they had three replacements on the offensive line if they meant replacments for the team this season, or injury replacements, though.

Obviously either way it will take time to form a cohesive line, but if it is injuries it should be remedied in the season better than if it is just worse players trying to replace better ones from a season before.

I've seen a lot of people say a lot of things about football, but a good offensive line will make everyone in the most important positions better and more efficient and is probably more important to a championship than a great defense.

A bad one though will, for example, make Henry look like he is running blind into a wall over and over and over. If there's no hole straight ahead then any change in direction he has to make and he basically stops, which is the one negative for being such a big back. It happened time and again at Tennessee, and they need to get him involved in some screens and toss plays so he can get some momentum if the O line is not going to be very good. If they sort the O line, no one will be able to stop both Henry and Jackson, so it will be strange if they have skimped on those positions

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Pizzamorg

Very true @Ravix linemen are like unsung heroes of the NFL in a lot of ways. Like tonight with the Eagles, seeing how they do the tushpush without Kelce is gonna be fascinating to watch. Think about how many points Eagles got off of that one play that now could potentially be cut off from them entirely if their new centre can't do the same. Like it is no joke to say that is potentially season tanking.

Same with Harbaugh taking over the Chargers, when people criticised the Alt pick he said linemen are a weapon. Herbert hasn't been able to play to his full potential for several seasons cause he is getting hurt all the time. What is the point of drafting one of those WRs in the first round if Herbert isn't able to throw the ball.

Hell, even Mahomes and that disastrous Super Bowl appearance a few years back, they basically replaced the entire line and haven't looked back.

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Malaise

Jets follower here. Once again we start with promise, hopefully it lasts longer than one drive this year! πŸ˜‚ Undeniable talent, but I've never liked Rodgers, and not expecting much away against a stacked Niners team. Hopes for the season are getting above .500. Beyond that, division champions and post season. I kind of embrace the suck, though. If they're actually good, I won't know what to do with myself. At least the merch looks cool again now they have the actual jet logo back!

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Pizzamorg

So we can agree the Brazil experiment was a failure, yeah? All the stuff surrounding this and going into this wouldn't have mattered if it resulted in a great game without incident. But not only was it an awful game, the pitch was also a death trap and is potentially going to tank the Packer's entire season if both their starting centre and their franchise QB lose significant time to whatever injuries they suffered at the end. If they try this again next year there is no way any franchise will agree to this or go quietly.

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Malaise

@Pizzamorg I was listening to the radio earlier (feels kind of old fashioned now), and they were saying they want 16 games overseas sooner rather than later, so every team plays outside of the nation.

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Malaise wrote:

@Pizzamorg I was listening to the radio earlier (feels kind of old fashioned now), and they were saying they want 16 games overseas sooner rather than later, so every team plays outside of the nation.

It kinda seems like there is no good deal for any team who has to play international games, but I feel like the last few years of international games in places like London, Germany, Mexico etc all got off without nearly as much incident. And also didn't feature the players skeeting across the awful playing surface, threating to tear their ACL on every play. In fact, I think the worst thing that happened amongst those games, was when one of the Jaguars players allegedly SA'd someone while in London. So that wasn't to the team, that was by someone in it.

So you may be right, these games may not be going anywhere, but I would be surprised if they go to Brazil again, and if they do, I don't think teams will be two hours away from the stadium and playing on a sheet of Vaseline. Or you would have to hope.

Then again, it seems kinda inevitable that a game will eventually be played Saudi Arabia because they have unlimited money, and that is worth more to the NFL than their public image, and when that game eventually happens, the controversy around the Brazil game will probably suddenly disappear from all coverage if they both happen in the same season.

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Malaise

@Pizzamorg Who knows, but one thing I do know is that when it comes to money, nothing else matters. Integrity least of all.

The worst part about that injury is that game was more or less over by that point. I haven't read anything about it yet, but it'd be a potential season killer if they have to go QB shopping. Personally I'd be looking at Tannehill.

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Ravix

@Th3solution but smelled good doing it 😁

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Th3solution

@Ravix Lol, too bad they don’t give points for smelling good.

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Ravix

@Th3solution I do 😁

I also jinxed Stonehouse because they got a punt blocked too πŸ˜› still going to be the best punter in the known universe, for whatever that is worth hahaha. Okonkwo caught a weird TD pass though, so my tip paid off if you wanted a, I assume, cheap tight end in fantasy lol.

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Th3solution

@Ravix Not into the fantasy FB thing lately, but that’s a good tip. In my opinion the tight end position is key on a fantasy team. And the elite TE’s go really early in the draft. So you either have to reach and waste an early pick, or get lucky.

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Ravix

Anyone wanting to save a few pennies that already subs to NBA League Pass remember to "cancel" your sub before it restarts this month for a nice little discount.

It has to be the best value sub going, regardless, but they have increased the price a small amount this season πŸ€πŸ€


Back to NFL. Any good televised games this week. I'm now using the forum as the best way to plan if I watch any 😁

Also, how is Tua, I know he got another concussion on Thursday, although it was almost as if he had one going in the way he was playing, the timing was off with his recievers, for sure 😬 but that is just speculation, and more likely the receivers faults.

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Th3solution

@Ravix Maybe check out Chiefs-Bengals, Lions-Bucs, and 49ers-Vikings, or Cowboys-Saints.

Yeah, sucks about Tua. Third concussion in 24 months. Experts are calling for him to retire before he ends up permanently disabling himself

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sorteddan

Yeah of all the ones mentioned already I think Bengals going to KC would be the one I was most interested in. Also think the later game with The Bears @ Texans could be fun.

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Ravix

@Th3solution oh wow, that bad 😬 was he trialing the new helmet at all this season? I've only seen it mentioned in passing, so not sure how much it helps anyway.

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Malaise

It's a good slate this weekend. I think Saints - Cowboys could be good, too. The stinker of the week is probably Giants - Commanders. Giants have been awful for way too long.

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Pizzamorg

I'm honestly so grateful for Redzone, especially early on when there is still hope around teams that will probably vanish from the conversation in a few weeks. I tend to Redzone live and then rewatch games through the week that hold interest. Like I'm currently watching Bucs / Commanders. I also rewatched Jets / Niners and Lions / Rams already.

However, if you want to focus on individual games and are mostly a casual fan (not meaning that in a derogatory sense, just in the sense that you are n't salivating at the prospect of Darnold going against Shanahan in a game which outside of narrative might not be very good), you can't really go wrong with Bucs Lions which will probably be a fun shootout. Chiefs Bengals should be good if its true that Burrow really isn't hurt and Texans / Bears is fun because we watching potentially the defining two QBs of the league in the decade to come going at it.

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