Topic: Corona Virus Panic/Discussion Thread

@Jimmer-jammer Because the whole China virus nonsense was being used to fuel Sinophobic violence against your average Chinese person on the street. These things are stupid though, just look at how it’s called the Spanish Flu despite it originating in the US.

@nessisonett fair enough. Context is always key I suppose. I do generally see a pattern of egg shell walking and timidity around China and their extremely questionable human rights and political standings, so I’m a little more sensitive to these things when I see them.

I went through junior high and high school with four homestays (huge kudos to my parents), three from South Korea and one from Hong Kong, and my best friend married a girl from Shanghai. It has given me an interesting perspective on some things in that area of the world, and the free pass China generally gets is concerning.

You’re right, Chinese people are just that-people, and they shouldn’t be on the receiving end of any sort of racism. But there are certainly concerning things going on there.

@Jimmer-jammer It’s worrying seeing how much flak average Chinese people get for the actions of their government. There’s over a billion Chinese citizens before we even get into people who have emigrated over the years. It’s not exactly fair for a whole group of people to be blamed for one subsection’s actions in my opinion.

@nessisonett I agree with you there! At least where I live, I haven’t seen that flak directed much outside of government so maybe I take for granted that any discussion around China isn’t referring directly to their people.

@Jimmer-jammer That's a fair point, I think. If it helps I did have some concerns typing up my comment that my post might come off almost like blame.

I agree that context matters and it seemed wise to avoid ascribing a regional name to the virus in the midst of much hatred toward China. Plus I'd like to think we've come a long way since the early 1900s, and can do better than Spanish Flu. I concede that this should go for these new variants as well.

@zupertramp The amount of prefacing and “in my opinion’s” one needs to do around here, an unusually reasonable online environment, is exhausting. I like to not assume the worst of people, especially strangers, so no worries as coming across like blame as far as I’m concerned.

I’m still figuring all this online discussion stuff out, and obviously I realize that a polite environment fuels a healthier discussion, but we shouldn’t be afraid to write something because of how it ‘might‘ come off. Just my opinion 😜

@Jimmer-jammer ha! To be fair all my prefacing is really my own decision. I don't need others to do it. I just like being polite. Or, it's a skill I enjoy working on. A review of my posting history would likely expose me as the true a**hole I am.

Push Square will have a vaccine before long at this rate

@kyleforrester87 in my head I'm wondering which will happen first - a)cyberpunk will be playable on console b)ps5s will be readily available or c)vaccines will be attainable for my age group

So 2021 should be a somewhat suspenseful year if nothing else.

And for the record i don't know what kind of monster goes near their controllers with food but that's just me. Probably the same folks who dog-ear books.

@kyleforrester87 As long as it's not made by Bethesda..!

@Arugula Don't look at the bottom of the controller. It accumulates a fair share of grime. Well mine does anyway.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-30/dodger-st...

Yeah, I really predict a long haul situation over here in the US. It's gonna be amusing when Mexico starts sending us money, unsolicited, to finish the rest of our wall.

I've just about had it with the contradictory rules about this virus. Some restaurants demand masks and others don't. There's a few that won't even allow you to order food on those touch screens or get your own drink. If this virus is so deadly and easy to catch why aren't all places shutting down their touch screen devices? Why are gloves not being mandated but masks are? It's pure lunacy! I've seen people wearing masks while they are alone in their car as if simply breathing will infect you.

I'm not knocking anyone who wants to wear the masks but i also don't think the government should have any right forcing you to cover your face. At this point I'm seeing no end in sight to the masking. Just the other day i read an article that's now suggesting we wear two or even three masks at a time! Where does it end? This virus is not going away anytime soon if ever. Enough already! Let people decide for themselves and stop this madness!

@Zeldafan79 The mask helps protect you, and people around you, from small droplets being projected from mouth-to-mouth, there can also be smaller droplets lingering in the air in poorly ventilated rooms. That's how the virus spreads. They say that surface transmission is less common, so if you take any precaution, I would go with the mask, and not worry too much about gloves.

@Zeldafan79 I think the thing with gloves is they don't offer too much protection. They can still be contaminated by the surfaces you touch and you can still transmit germs to other surfaces (like your own face) so there's little benefit to gloves unless you're changing them out constantly, and even then, that needs to be done correctly.

As far as sitting in your car with a mask, often I go ahead and place my mask on before leaving because it's easier than getting there and sorting it out. But, admittedly, it does look bizarre lol.

As far as the government mandating it... i have to be honest and say I don't see why they would be able to set other laws/rules/ordinances in regards to public safety but not this. Plus you kinda have to wear clothes which is basically the government telling you to cover your body so I don't know, if they have jurisdiction over that, why not your face? They can tell you to wear a seatbelt. They can tell you to wear a helmet. I'm sure there are other examples.

And when you get down to the private level (either as a customer or an employee) companies have all kinds of say over what you must or must not wear.

Plus, above all else, wearing some flimsy cloth mask just isn't that hard to do so I'm a little baffled at the amount of resistance to it sometimes.

Oh and one n95 mask is preferable or two of just about any other cloth or surgical masks. 3 masks seems excessive. But then, it might depend on where you are and what you're doing. If you're eating in somewhere masks seem pointless entirely imo.

@Zeldafan79
Yep, Wesker is bang on the money. I would actually suggest gloves are a bad idea in most circumstances. They install a false sense of security, people will touch their faces with contaminated gloves without thinking.

The advice to wash hands regularly is there for very good reasons, which really should be followed to keep everyone safe.

As for wearing a mask alone in your own car.. Constantly adjusting a mask through the day is best avoided, so there are good reasons for people doing that.

@LieutenantFatman man I loved me some Mask as a kid, my number 1 Christmas memory is of me at maybe around 6, opening all my presents and feeling more than happy with my haul... then my folks left it for about 30 minutes before suggesting that there was ‘another’ present behind the couch. It was only frikking Boulder Hill, ‘the’ toy that Christmas that was probably more difficult to get ahold of than a PS5 was this. My mind was blown... gives me chills just thinking about it!

@colonelkilgore
Nice! Sounds like a great memory. I watched a few episodes of it, so many classic 80s cartoons, my favourites at that age was TMNT or Hero Turtles as they had to rename it here. Was also a big fan of He-Man. Probably two of the most hilarious cartoons of those times, the villains are just fantastic.

I remember both MASK and He-Man as well as a few others would have some of the protagonists give a little lecture to the viewer after the episode was finished.