@zupertramp the data suggests many things. When they tell you to wear a mask after you're vaccinated, it's not about covid or safety. Pfizer was sued 3.9 billion 12years ago for bribing doctors and adverse trial results, they settled for 2.3 bil. Wonder what they're working on these days? Yah might wish it was saline?
Some natural immune boosters in case anyone would like some: being outside, vitamin d, vitamin c, echinacea, exercise (get comfortable being uncomfortable and push your hr daily), yoga/meditation, removing caffeine from diet, removing soda from diet, removing fast food from diet. Workout more than your thumbs and jaw. Challenge yourself to an hour of no technology. Just a few will give a boost.
@Kidfried I presume most of the testing is already done at this point.
Problem is that without the vaccine we would be worse off. At least the laboratory animals live in good conditions, and they are relatively few compared to the millions bred and slaughtered for production every day.
@Kidfried I've worked with lab animals before, and I can assure you they don't live in small cages/have to listen to loud music all day long. In fact, regulations are incredibly strict (especially here in the Netherlands). Rabbit housing for example is miles better than the average pet rabbit, which is usually confined to a small cage.
@Snottie_Drippen idk, I think maybe you're taking the contrarianism or rebelliousness or whatever a little too far when you start questioning why the masks. There's simply less spread that way. Vaccinated or not, we can get others sick. This is less likely with masks. That's all.
And I'm all for a holistic approach to health. That's why I'm all kinds of no fun at parties. But, someone say, 70 years old and in remission from stomach cancer might not want to rely solely on yoga and multivitamins to ward off death and disease. Modern medicine isn't perfect but it's not something to avoid either.
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@Kidfried Sorry you aren't feeling too well. That's how I was on the 2nd day of my 2nd jab. Fine by the next day though so hang in there. A small sacrifice in the end I'm sure.
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Just got a call from the school letting us know my daughter and I were exposed to COVID-19 while up there registering yesterday. So sounds like the start of a good year.
We were masked so that's a plus. (No one else was but we were) There were a few days I stopped because it made me feel like an outcast but it just didn't feel right so I went back to wearing it.
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@Voltan@RogerRoger thanks. I'm sure we'll be fine; mostly it's just annoying to have to make the decision whether to quarantine or not.
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@Voltan yeah it's extremely discomforting to learn the decision is entirely up to the individual here.
Personally I'm thinking we passed through a fairly vacant school building into one office for about 5-10 minutes with masks and vaccinations so our risk is relatively low. However, I still feel somewhat obligated to wait the 5 days and get tested before going about like normal. I very seriously doubt others will give it that much consideration regardless of the circumstances.
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@RogerRoger yeah I have quite the movie backlog along with Hades, The Ascent, and Art of Rally on game pass (sorry Pushsquare) so I've got plenty to do. Also a stockpile of rice, beans, and snacks so I'm good.
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@zupertramp Sorry to hear that, hopefully you and your daughter do not have and underlying health issues so you can make a full recovery.
Had my second jab on Thursday and again all I had was a sore arm for a couple of days. I did feel wiped out by the end of the day, but think that was more down to having a busy day more than a side effect of the jab.
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@zupertramp Wow, that’s bitterly ironic. The school can’t even provide a safe environment to register — so what’s going to happen when school is actually in session and there are hundreds or kids, teachers, and school employees packing the halls? Hopefully they have a plan for mask enforcement. Otherwise you’re going to be getting those calls a lot.
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@Th3solution yeah, that's pretty much my sentiment. I think I'm probably going to have to accept I'm probably going to catch it sooner or later. We've unashamedly adopted a policy of culling the weak and elderly at this point. At least in the southern US. All I can do is hope no one in my family is among that unlucky group.
It's funny I moved from one idiocracy to another. One perhaps worse. Out of the frying pan...
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@zupertramp My old high school used to send girls home if their skirts weren’t past their knee. Or if they wore trousers. Or the wrong shoes. Or the wrong makeup. I’d like to hope they’re enforcing masks now otherwise it’s a little rich of them.
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