Topic: Corona Virus Panic/Discussion Thread

@nessisonett I don't buy meat that often, but I haven't seen empty aisles yet. People are still hoarding toilet paper and flour like crazy though.

When I do buy meat, I go to a butcher, they always have plenty.

@nessisonett
Finding it difficult to locate any eggs, not sure why there would be a shortage of eggs, it isn't something you can stockpile. I suppose a lot of people are baking cakes.

@nessisonett Meat has been mostly fine in my local Tesco supermarket. I just got back from there, and as usual they were out of rice, eggs, toilet roll, handwash, and flour, and they had very little pasta left.

On another note Tesco added arrows on the floor to indicate which direction to go down the aisles. However, most people didn't seem to be paying any attention to them though. People in general also seem to be less bothered about keeping 2m apart than they were a week ago, from what I've seen. That could be very bad as we get closer to the peak.

Question: I noticed the last several days in the US have been between 30 and 35 thousand new cases. Are we seeing the curve flatten, or the upper limit of the amount of tests than can be processed in a single day?

@Heavyarms55
I don't know if this is just only trivial matters, my calendar April 2020 is Green color. Last March 2020 was Red color. I thought the "Red" month was the climax of pandemic and the "Green" month is the flattening phase. But if it was true, let's hope the "Green" color of this month will heal the world from the pandemic.

@Anti-Matter I don't know what color has to do with anything? Is that a religious thing? Something from your faith? I don't want to spit on your beliefs, I just have no idea what you mean or why the color of a calendar would matter.

@Heavyarms55
Nah, it just my current calendar 2020 design. Doesn't have any relation with belief or religious things. 😅
I don't know if this just coincidence but my calendar 2020 have color patterns like this.
January = Mint Green
February = Purple
March = Red
April = Green
May = Indigo
June = Orange
July = Green
August = Purple
September = Yellow
October = Aqua Blue
November = Red
December = Yellow
My assumption for April to May 2020 we will see some light of hope. I'm not a paranormal but i guess we will get healed eventually.
Sorry for made you confused.

@Anti-Matter Oh. Well staying positive is better than panicking. I would like to believe we're reaching the upper limit of how bad things will get. That as bad as things are, this is the peak.

But the only other people suggesting that sort of thing, are the crazies also calling the pandemic a media hoax to take down Trump and let China take over the world and other such nonsense...

@Heavyarms55 The tests don't really matter in the end. As it's all about the number of new people requiring healthcare. That's a number hospitals can provide (if the tests can't keep up). They they don't report an increase in new patiets with COVID-19, it's working.

We’ve had no real problem getting food over the last week or two at our Sainsbury’s. Pasta and rice harder to come by still but got plenty in the cupboard. There is a national shortage of flour though. No issues with eggs either.

I’ve had no issues so far but, as I’ve said before, it’s been easy for me as I’m still going to work as normal. Enjoying the long weekend though and currently chilling in the garden with the wife and dog. The dog did not enjoy being blasted with the hose when watering our little garden

@Thrillho Fortunately I live in a town with a working flour mill. It sounds incredibly outdated, but they sell flour, grains and whatnot, and they have plenty.

Who knows, since the reporting and numbers with this thing are all questionable.
However, if my understanding is correct, the testing capacity is only increasing in the US and is less of a bottle neck than it was a couple weeks ago. But some communities are flattening, while others are not, so I don’t know.

The european video games rating board is able to work remotely. So game that can be developed by home working can still be rated and released in europe.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/04/esrb_and_pegi_will_...

If that's the case than nearly everybody would test positive by next week (considering the exponential spread), and it would all be over in month or so.

It has to be much lower than that. Which is a good thing and a bad thing. Because it means that less people get sick at the moment, but it will take longer for everything to go back to normal.

The future is change forever. Not only this brand new virus but more are coming as well as increase pollution, global warming, lust for power, money, hatred and much much more. Be prepare! Most human are crazy and gone berserk.The future is not good at all.

In the short term, of course we will see change. In 6 months time, we will have a completely different situation with many of us back in work. The Coronavirus will be around in some description, things will have moved so fast by that point as the whole connected world has it - we will have multiple working cures or medicine with a subsiding effect, ideas and changes to working practice in hospital. After Spanish flu people were reluctant to get close, however within half a generation this stuff is forgotten. I had hardly heard of it and I was born in 1981 with an interest in the World Wars, I was led to believe it was an inconvenience rather than a pandemic! So for anyone thinking this is going to change the world we live in 5 years time, it probably wont.

Also, and I know a ton of people are facing short term insecurity, I too am slightly concerned and I have worked in the same place for over 5 years! However we will be back to normal in the future, hugging, high fiving, kissing etc etc. Fortunately this is a wake up call for the handshake with strangers - its the most potent way to contract an unwanted virus. We should see a reduction in flu admissions later this year too.

As for airlines, Im sorry but that will most certainly will change - I personally wont be proactively searching for a holiday next year (unfortunately I have to Greece at some point for a wedding), and I believe most people will venture in their own countries for the medium term. It will be too risky, especially if airlines fail to refund customers which is something being looked at. In 6 months the worst will be over going through all of the predictions, however there will be pockets of outbreaks throughout the world. I just cant see the average person willing to take that risk of booking when they can holiday locally.

I recently watched a report in to a fantastic hospital in Naples whom have had no health workers contract covid-19. The way they were working was completely different to what I have been watching in other parts of Italy, Spain, the UK and USA. One medic was in the room, a nurse was outside to ready meds, there was a split room to pass meds and equipment through so they never physically touch with doors on either side, even after a menial task (like readying an injection) the nurse quickly took off gloves - gelled hands - new gloves, there were clearly defined markings, the rooms had a rear access, there was a decontamination suite to the rear no one bar the medics could use, a guard on the hallway pass etc etc. This is more in line with what I was seeing the military, they knew how to create a safe space. As the space was made to work it mechanically it took less time than when other hospitals showed hospital workers in the same space.

Compared to the scenes in New York with 3-4 people peering over infected individuals crammed together I was like oh my god! They haven't been able to adjust! Surely so many ill people in the same environment are feeding each other more and more covid - I dunno, something seemed really off in that hospital.

There's no way half of America is infected, but I could absolutely see the number of infections nationally numbering in the millions already. I think it's way higher than we realize. Since we're mostly testing the critically ill + people they're in contact with, I'm pretty sure the official number for Americans is only the tip of a very large iceberg.

@KratosMD That’s the main problem with how most countries are advertising lockdown, as soon as it works then people will go straight back to those bad habits. Whereas, once it’s working, the population should keep at it until the curve is beyond flattened, it’s on a downwards turn.

@KratosMD I know you are concerned, however young people should be fine so don't panic too much. Keep healthy and eat stuff to keep your immune system ship shape. I'm jealous we can't run a Swedish type system here, sounds like I have a death wish right?

Wrong, it will be over quicker. Not being able to leave the house, overreach by the police, scallies flaunting the laws anyway, mass death in care homes which is unreported, the economy crashing around us and quality of life services being effected. That is the UK right now. Once we have flattened the curve there should be regional lockdowns not countrywide lockdowns. China with the most severe lockdown has 91 new cases today, it's too contagious to stop. We missed the boat 3 months ago to stop it and the all indoors approach is massively flawed. Sweden has the right approach.

@Ralizah Half the population is a stretch, however our UK models show approximately 25% immunity towards the end of wave 1 judged to be early June. That's 125million people in America 17 million people here. This is all guesswork of course and a report from Austria states only 1% of their population has had it.

@themcnoisy In fairness, it's difficult to derive any sort of useful information out of China due to the way they censor information about the virus in their own country. If anyone here really thinks their death toll and infection numbers are below countries like Italy and Spain when their country houses almost 20% of the world's population and this thing went ignored for weeks after it got started, I have a bridge to sell you.