Topic: Nintendo Switch --OT--

@RR529 That's pretty par for the course in terms of dialogue on Pure Xbox, lol. The toxic users tend to be the most prolific, and they all hate Nintendo and are perpetually angry about Playstation.

BTW, I had the same issue with the Ch. 2 boss. I was wondering why I wasn't doing any damage to it. I even chain attacked it!

@Ralizah, yeah it's really weird too. NL users (in general) seem to think MS & Nintendo are on good terms and aren't too hard on them (of course there are exceptions), while that outlook doesn't seem to be shared over on PX (I mean I could understand a bit of anti-PS fanboyism due to them being MS' closest competitor. Console wars are silly true, but I could at least understand some of that, but the Nintendo hate is weird given that they're really not in the same space of the market).

I still think it's largely down to one specific user though. I won't name names, but it seems like their "Switch" thread can be dead for months, and not too long after someone (or a few people) try to jumpstart it, this specific user comes back in to sour the conversation regurgitating the same 2 or 3 negative points they've already made the last time there was activity on the thread.

@RR529 Microsoft has thrown a few bones Nintendo's way (allowing the Ori games on Switch; allowing Banjo in Smash; probably some other stuff too) and they collaborate occasionally, as when they teamed up to promote cross-play when Sony was being an ass about not letting Playstation users interact with other ecosystems in multiplayer games. And, of course, the CoD deal was a thing, back when people still thought the Acti-Bliz acquisition was going through. So I think it's fair to say the two are on reasonably good terms. The fanbases maybe not so much, but most gaming communities tend to trend toward toxicity, in my experience.

If we're thinking the same person (we probably are), they have a long history of unpleasant fanboyish behavior, and seem to hate everything other than the Xbox brand. They actually got mad and stormed off NL for a while when they tried pulling that nonsense in one of our threads, and a few users pushed back. They're back on NL now, but they seem to be behaving on there atm.

There are a few other pretty toxic users as well. It wouldn't be a big deal on a larger site, but due to being shut down for years in the Xbone era, the site is still pretty small, and so they have an outsized impact on discussions.

@Kidfried I've had The Messenger on my Switch for a year or two now. Still haven't played it. Some time extremely soon, I think I'm cutting myself off from new games full stop so I can actually enjoy my considerable backlog.

PlayDate... that's the handheld with a crank and no backlight where you download the games for free, right? Definitely curious to hear what you think of that!

@Ralizah That's a bit tragic when you put it like that! I have been meaning to get round to playing echoes, but likely won't for a while I think. Awakening's plot was great for 1/3, then bad for 1/3, and then good idea but poor execution for the last 1/3. It's a fun game, but you're right with the characters, they all have a single trope that's played out as much as it can be.

Those rumours for the genealogy remake seem pretty strong which gives me a lot of hope. I was thinking of emulating it but I might wait a year or two and hope it materialises!

And yeah the Radiant games do look wonderful, but as you said they're just outrageously expensive. I always have my eye looking out for them in the wild, but I just think they're too rare and too expensive, which is a shame. Maybe it'll be on Nintendo switch online when they do GameCube games in 2029!

I'm tempted to try the Blazing Blade though as that's confirmed to come to GBA online in the next year, so I think that might be my next fire emblem game, even if it's not technically the "best" next one I could play

@BranJ0 Echoes is an example of quality > quantity. There's not a ton of dialogue, and supports are extremely short, but they cut to the heart of who these people are, so you feel like you really know your armies (the game's campaign is split between the two leads, who each have their own respective recruits/party members) by the end. IS unfortunately added a yandere character to the remake, but otherwise it's really good, and even she chills out a bit by the end.

The original game was long hated by the fandom for how weird it was (it feels much more like a JRPG with tactical combat than a traditional FE game), but aside from the battles having literally almost no map design whatsoever (most of them are skirmishes in the countryside/swamps/caves/etc. with enemies you can see on the map), I think it has aged beautifully in many respects. At least, insofar as most of its systems and intricacies were carried over to Echoes.

FE7 is fun. All of the GBA games are. The story isn't incredible or anything, but it does the job.

@Ralizah That sounds excellent, I'll have to look into that soon! Sounds like I should've played it instead of playing all three separate Fates campaigns!

Sounds like FE7 is exactly the same as FE8 then - nothing that's going to blow you away, but a very solid game. I'll give it a go soon!

Tears of the Kingdom leaks all over the place now that the ROM is out in the wild on pirate sites. Unless everyone who is playing it is collectively conspiring to push a false narrative (doubtful, but technically not impossible), this sounds like it's going to be absolutely incredible. Zelda team has been EXTREMELY busy these last six years, it would seem.

@Ralizah eh, I don’t want to even hear it really, I’d like to be surprised by everything - even how good it is! I might have to go offline lol

@kyleforrester87 Picking up a copy at launch, then?

@Ralizah yeah that’s the plan. All well and good trying to do a media blackout, but you need to keep that up once you’re actually playing the game until you’re done, too, and I’m not likely to get through it very quickly if BOTW was anything to go by.

Quietly pretty excited though. I couldn’t have really cared less until a few weeks back. Sounds like it’ll deliver.

I recently discovered Mightykeef a few years ago, always love his content!

@KidRyan yeah his Xbox-PlayStation stuff is probably his best tbh… but when I’ve posted them previously they’ve been removed. Seems like Nintendo is a safe space 😉

@colonelkilgore @KidRyan His E3 one is a good recent one, especially with what he calls Geoff! 😂 And his Hogwarts Legacy nailed the absurdity of what some people were being like when the game was released.

@JohnnyShoulder yeah his Hogwarts one in particular was perfection.

@Ralizah very good 😂

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/the-legend-of-zelda-te...

A 96 on Metacritic so far. Not too bad, considering the... 'newness' factor of Zelda first going open world is missing here. Probably doesn't help that one publication gave it a 6/10 and complained that it wasn't similar enough to older Zelda games, lol.

Sounds like most of the performance issues in the game were fixed in a patch, although using Ultrahand in Kakariko Village obviously still caused it to drop pretty badly. It's using FSR to hit 1080p when docked. Definitely think we'll be seeing a heavy use of DLSS in the successor console, as Nintendo's big games are increasingly making use of upscaling to help with image quality.

The Tears of the Kingdom reviews are kind of a rollercoaster for me. I think BOTW is an okay game, but had extreme Nintendo bias on it. If you look at it just as a game, it was a bland patch work of open modern open world tropes and generally just kinda boring a lot of the time, with it being a big empty field simulator.

That said, I can understand that if you grew up with Zelda seeing it realised in a big, modern open world, game like that probably was really exciting, but I think it really smothered all of the reviews and any sense of even partial objectivity went out of the window.

It seems like TOTK does address the empty field problem if nothing else, and actually really embracing the more spoiler heavy reviews might have ruined some of the surprises for me, but they have sold me on this title more than any birds eye view non spoiler overview ever could have, which honestly made me really nervous in the lead up, as I thought the non spoiler preview of TOTK also seemed kinda boring.

That being said, the Switch hardware, man. Its a meme, that became a meme to complain about, but I am sorry, it is super hard for me to get excited for an upscaled 900p 30 fpsish open world title in 2023. I am sorry. Hardware snob or whatever you want to call me, but it is my truth.

And I get that you can't really down score a title because of the limitations of the hardware the title is running on, but you can absolutely mock Nintendo for releasing flagship titles on this hardware, and actively holding back these titles from achieving their fullest potential in the process.

As such, I can't help but feel like there is still some serious Nintendo bias when outlets are giving this a 10 in 2023, when its running at a level of performance of a game about 15 years older than it actually is and generally hasn't been acceptable for really almost a decade, unless we are now going to act like the Switch is just exclusively a handheld device at this point.