It's been the talk of Push Square Towers since the rumours started: could Sucker Punch really make a Spider-Man game for the PlayStation 4? A voice actor's resume started the discussion, when Stephen Oyoung's portfolio referenced an "untitled Spider-Man PS4 project" in production at Sony. Images on the unfortunate performer's Instagram page showed him at work on the title at PlayStation headquarters.
But there are no hard facts linking the inFAMOUS developer to the project at all. We know that the Seattle-based studio is working on an open world action game, but it could be just about anything. So why won't the Spider-Man rumours go away? It's perhaps because, under intense scrutiny, the theory begins to make more and more sense. And, of course, there may be a little bit of wishful thinking at play.
The reality is that inFAMOUS' best asset is its open world traversal – an attribute which is essential to a Spider-Man game. The last title to really nail the feel of swinging through Manhattan as Peter Parker was Spider-Man 2 on the PlayStation 2 – and it released all the way back in 2004. There's no question that Sucker Punch could match or even exceed the "feel" of that classic – and that's an exciting proposition.
inFAMOUS is not solely about navigation, of course – it also has pretty strong combat when you factor in all of the different abilities available. And it has moral decisions. Each of these could easily be applied to a Spider-Man game – in fact, a Push Square commenter recently hypothesised that an Evil Karma path in Sucker Punch's rumoured Spidey title could see you playing as Venom. It makes so much sense it hurts.
But would Sony go for it? Well, the platform holder very rarely funds the development of titles that it doesn't own the IP for, but Spider-Man is a special case. Indeed, not only are we talking about one of the most globally recognised brands on the planet, but we're also talking about a character that's been incredibly important to the Japanese giant in the past. Would it make an exception for such a franchise? Maybe.
And would Disney play ball? Well, it's just ceased internal development with Disney Infinity in favour of licensing its brands out to different companies, and it must be eyeing the success of the Batman Arkham trilogy with green eyes. Activision technically still has the rights to make Spider-Man tie-ins until 2017, but there could very well be loop holes in the contract. Sony and Sucker Punch certainly have the resources and track record to make it happen if the opportunity's there.
Perhaps the only stumbling block is whether the House of Mickey Mouse would be willing to see Spider-Man go exclusive, but it's worth remembering that the PlayStation 4 is currently the market leader by some margin; Beenox's recent Spider-Man games were multiformat, but they didn't sell particularly well. A critically acclaimed first-party title based upon the webslinger would post extraordinary numbers.
The stars have aligned a little with this rumour, but it's still important to note that we're probably getting ahead of ourselves; there's nothing to suggest that Sucker Punch is making a Spider-Man game, after all. But the more that we think about it, the more that we talk about it… Well, the more it begins to make sense, doesn't it? There's going to be real disappointment at Push Square Towers if this doesn't come to fruition, that's for sure.
Do you think that Sucker Punch could make a Spider-Man game? Is that something that you'd want to play? Check out the potato cam video embedded above, and then let us know your thoughts in the comments section below.
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Apologies for potato cam in the video. I ticked all of the wrong boxes. You live and you learn!
Sucker Punch making a third person action/superhero game where the main character shoots stuff out of his hands? I don't know about tha.... Wait
Of course Suckerpunch 'could' make a Spider-man game as Infamous shows - although more of an 'anti-hero' than hero. Add in a bit of web-swinging and no doubt you could easily see how Infamous could be changed to be Spider-man.
Whether they are or not is a different matter. I wouldn't be surprised if they were but equally not surprised if not either. I can see why they would be potentially the best developer to make a Spider-man game but maybe the game is Spider-man like but not Spider-man...
If they are doing this, and I hope with every fiber of my being that they are, I hope they nail the combat. Melee in I:SS wasn't bad, but the camera sucked as it would get too close, swing around quickly, things like that. Hopefully they work it out so that as soon as H2H is initiated, the camera backs off a little.
Can I do a Talking Point!!!???
Will Push Square ever write a article on KOF 14 or Guilty Gear Revelator?
( ) No, why would you when Street Fighter V articles generate 5X the number of clicks?
( ) No, not until Sub12 stops whining about it like a compulsive little girl.
( ) No, I don't even know what those games are, insert random T Swift gif and mention how you love the Dreamcast.
What I hardly ever hear is the fact that Sony gave up their movie rights so easily. That is, they gave Marvel the right to use Spider-Man in their MCU and let them produce and direct a stand- alone movie at a deal that is completely not beneficial for them. The only reason why I could see Sony giving up their rights, and all the money they could ask for it, so easily is when they get something sweet in return: the rights to make a Spider- Man licensed videogame!
I want to believe there is more to the movie rights agreement than just merchandise and like Sammy said Disney could be inclined to release it on one platform only because of PS4s dominance. And although it isn't a Sony owned IP, it would be a huge step up for Sucker Punch: if the game releases after the movie it will crúsh Uncharted 4's sales! Sucker Punch would immediately promote to the big leagues with a game that has the potential to sell 8-12 million if it has the sweet traversal we all know they're capable of making!
Win-win-win scenario! Disney wins, Sucker Punch wins and most importantly: we win! It's been to God*peep* long since we had a decent Spider-Man game and papi wants to swing...
@Boerewors Mainly didn't mention the movie thing much because Sony Pictures tends to operate independently; not sure they would negotiate terms just to favour PlayStation. But you're quite right - there could be something in that.
Activision owns the rights until 2017. i was literally doing research 5 minutes ago. idk if this could happen, but i'd love it.
@Pac-Fan Yup, but the deal specifically applies to movie tie-ins I believe.
@get2sammyb
That's the sweetest part: normally deals like this have to be disclosed because of their shareholders, but if the PS division was part of the deal it's easier for Sony Pictures to keep it quiet, especially since Sony could argue it's valuable "inside information". And because of the importance of the PS brand for Sony and the enormous costs of the last 2 Spider-Man movies I could see Sony favoring the PS division over Pictures.
If there is a licensing agreement for a game the whole deal between Pictures and Marvel/ Disney would make more sense; I just can't believe Sony would just "give away" a brand that is so important for them and is possibly worth billions at this point. Heck, the PS3 even used Spider-Man's font for Ben's sake! ('Potter', not 'uncle')
I don't think good or bad karma would mean playing the game as Venom, simply as black suit Spidey. As seen in the horrible Spiderman 3 movie. In SPIDERMAN: Web of Shadows I think they toyed around with the idea of the black suit giving him more strength but also making him less likable, or something. It's a common theme. Not saying you couldn't play as Venom, only that it isn't necessary for good-bad karma usage.
It's been awhile since I played infamous 2, still haven't played 2nd Son, but I don't see how a Spiderman game by Sucker Punch could be bad, as long as they don't try to make it into a Batman game, Spidey works better fast and agile, not countering. They should use the old old cartoons as a basis for a color pallete. And not the new movie for inspiration.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7xqvBqfaQwE&rdm=215wyw7lt&client=mv-google#
"A Push Square commenter recently hypothesised that an Evil Karma path in Sucker Punch's rumoured Spidey title could see you playing as Venom. It makes so much sense it hurts."
That was me! I was that commenter! My life has peaked here.
@Morrowbie
Worth mentioning Sony publishes The Show, so they are not above publishing licensed games
@rjejr
Exactly.
I never got into comics much, but I did own 2. And one of them was the first appearance of the symbiote- "Black Spidey" as you put it. Venom is an entirely different person. Eddie Brock iirc. But Venom is evil BECAUSE of the symbiote.
So yes, a Black Spidey would very much be the answer to the dark path.
But get this
What if, say you resist the symbiote, then it goes to Eddie Brock and the final boss is Venom. BUT, if you give in and become Black Spidey, you fight Carnage instead.
That would be insanely awesome.
@JaxonH Sounds like the end of inFamous 2. Oh, um, spoiler.
I think it's unfortunate that these rumors started because at this point it feels like a massive missed opportunity and will be very disappointing if it doesn't happen, imo.
@Boerewors
Since I don't want to get my hopes up too much I'm just going to assume Sony gave up the rights so easily was because the sweet return is bucket loads of $$$ the likes of which you or I could only dream.
@Boerewors Sony still own the rights to spiderman movies, marvel are partnered with them to help out with spiderman.
I have to admit i enjoyed Amazing Spiderman a lot more than any Infamous.
I will always hold out hope that ANY game can come close to Treyarch's Spiderman 2.
I also love how when you say 'great open world traversal' it sounds a lot like 'grey open world traversal' which in a lot of ways is very accurate
Whoever voted "No, I'm not interested in Spider-Man at all" should be banned from video games for life
@JoeBlogs Probably not. Outside IPs have been licensed for exclusive titles before. It's just a matter of what's the best business for the IP holder at the time. As mentioned in the article this would work well, what with Sony loving Spiderman, Sucker Punch being incredible at open world traversal and fans of superhero games etc. The multiplatform alternative is another Activision Spiderman game which is almost guaranteed to be bad.
With Batman, Warner Bros have had huge success with Rocksteady so there is no possible reason they would go exclusive, even if Sucker Punch Spiderman ends up being the biggest selling superhero game ever.
@JoeBlogs You're right but those situations are the platform holders paying the developers/publishers to make it exclusive. They are literally paying them not to release it on the other console. I hate this too and it only hurts gamers.
But this Spiderman would be completely different to that. If it is developed by Sucker Punch and funded by Sony, then they aren't paying money to keep it away from Xbox owners. It literally wouldn't exist if not for them.
The only way the next Spiderman game could come out on non Sony consoles is if it was an Activision one and so a completely different game to the Sucker Punch game we're talking about, and more than likely a bad one judging on what Activision have done with the brand in recent years.
@sub12
What if... it's actually Naughty Dog's next game? Recent swinging and climbing experience on the CV. Animations all done. A small B team working on it in tandem with UC4.
By the way I think this is in no way likely, just fun to imagine what that game would be like.
@JoeBlogs And that exclusive worked really out for them. Tomb raider is considered to be a critical succes in reviews but the sales are not to write about. Streetfighter sold oke, but it made capcom reconsider their practices of releasing a game with lack of polish ( is a good thing).
@Sanquine Please watch the language -Tasuki-
@Morrowbie Well, i think last of us 2 because that was (for me ) an amazing game. However, i don't know which story can be told in the last of us 2. I think with Naughty dog being done with uncharted i don't know what to expect. Don't get me wrong i love the last of us but i like uncharted 4 more because the jokes and the not so serious tone is what i seek in gaming. The beginning scene of the last of us for example make me feel good ( i just can't stand people crying it makes me feel uncomfortable)
@Sanquine This is your final warning next time I have to edit your post due to language you will be taking a vacation from the site. -Tasuki-
The above comment was really contradicting huh... Sorry for the spam but the edit button doesn't work for me ..:
As long as it has web slinging and isn't just another boring cookie-cutter open-world game I'm in.
All I want is:
@Sanquine I'd rather have The Last of Us 2 as well. I trust ND to take it somewhere interesting.
@sub12 I feel your pain although I could care less about the particular games you crave. But I've been there, concerning other titles.
@Boerewors They didn't give them up they gave them the right to use it.
I think SuckerPunch is the most ideal studio to take on the IP. Whether it happens or not, is beyond me. But if it did, it would help revitalize Spiderman more than any reboot can.
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