This week saw the release of two PlayStation 2 titles on the PlayStation 4: The Warriors and Metal Slug Anthology. The two articles that we wrote confirming these releases went on to become among the most viewed on the website over the past seven days, proving that there's pent-up demand for these retro re-releases. But isn't it time that Sony started delving into the PSone library, too?
There was a survey a while back listing all of the PS4 firmware features that gamers may want. In addition to the likes of folders, the questionnaire also included mention of PSone and PS2 Classics. The latter format launched late last year at PSX 2015, but we're still waiting on the former to accompany it. So, what's the hold up?
Well, it's perhaps worth remembering that there was a big, big backlash to PS2 Classics to begin with. Sony opted against cross-buy with the PlayStation 3 versions of the last-last gen titles, opting instead to update the clients with Trophies, upscaled presentation, and integration into the console's operating system. This, of course, meant that games needed to be re-purchased.
And this led to much outrage around the community. Many felt, at the time, that Sony shouldn't be including new features, and instead should simply be adding support for these old titles in their original state – with cross-buy offered, of course. That backlash has softened somewhat in recent months, but it would be revived should PSone Classics follow the same path.
But in our opinion, it's the right way to bring these retro releases to Sony's new-gen system. Trophies may not be everyone's cup of tea, but they do offer incentive to revisit decades old experiences – and when coupled with the ability to livestream and share screenshots on social media, classic games are certainly infused with new energy.
The problem is that more people own PSone Classics on the PS3, Vita, and, indeed, PSP than was ever the case with PS2 Classics – and Sony's set the expectation across the aforementioned formats that they're cross-buy. Thus, charging again for the likes of Syphon Filter and Jumping Flash will cause a revolt – with more pitchforks than were present at the PS2 Classics riots.
And so the platform holder perhaps finds itself in a difficult position. We want PSone Classics on the PS4, and we think that they need to be fully integrated into the new-gen system's operating system. But that all requires time and effort, which the manufacturer will want to charge for. Yet in doing so, it threatens to draw the ire of its most passionate fans.
It may be something that it ultimately feels isn't worth the inevitable Internet outrage, and that may be why PSone Classics appear to be on the backburner for now. But if that's truly the case, we reckon that it would be a shame. We'd pay good money to play Metal Gear Solid with a Platinum Trophy right now – and, irrespective of any online protests, we reckon that a lot of people would do the same.
Is it time for Sony to put PSone Classics on the PS4? If so, should the platform holder update these legendary titles with features such as Trophy support or leave them as they are? Let us know whether you're Red E in the comments section below.
Is it time for PSone Classics on PS4? (138 votes)
- Yes, and I’m willing to pay for Trophies and full OS integration
- Sure, but ditch all of the extra features and give me cross-buy
- Meh, I’m not fussed to be honest with you
- No, I’m not interested in playing old games at all anymore
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Comments 44
Just like external harddrive support up to 4TB at the least, folders, the ability to change your PSN name, PS2 games (which we finally got) and a constant 1080p/60 fps output, this is a simple feature that should've been there day one. And I voted option 2, don't care about trophies for PS1 games.
i said Yes but we don't need Trophy support
just port the games as is and it will be fine, as long as we can still take screenshots, videos and stream them of course
It's not the trophy support that bothers me all that much; it's the up rendering of those PS2 games that make it worth paying again. PS2 games look awful on my HDTV screen, and this is even worse on 4k displays. With the up-rendered versions, however, they look a lot better. To me, it's worth paying for that alone (with or without trophies).
My opinion is that if they're not adding Trophies and full integration into the OS (Share screenshots, live streaming, etc) then they're doing it very wrong.
Can you not imagine some of the trophies for the classic games? 100% crash bandicoot or spyro!?
Nah. I have a PS1 for this..
PS1 titles haven't aged well for most of them so those games been tinkered with is probably needed anyway. People obviously wanted cross buy but if you look at the PS2 games that have been released already, to my knowledge most of them were never previously available on PSN before. The exception of course is the GTA titles but obviously Rockstar didn't want cross buy.
@Utena-mobile If they're not going to upgrade them then they should just be cross-buy - you'd get them for free if you already own them. That's been the case on PS3, Vita, and PSP.
Like I say, though, I personally think they should upgrade them.
Another topic to look at Sammy is whether Sony should look at making PS Now more appealing, having it as part of Plus etc.
The PS1 games did not aged well, the early 3d was something complicated and few games still bearable, so I'm no thrilled for most of this games. Don't get me wrong, I love the 32/64-bits generation, it was my third but the most meaningful generation to me, but a lot of this games are best as perfect memories than new disappointments.
@adf86 Different discussion. I think they see PlayStation Now as a long-term thing, rather than near-term.
@Utena-mobile
It might be greedy or petty on my part but if Sony goes the cross-buy route (which I want) I will not pay 1 cent for a game I already purchased. They should be cross-buy and any game purchased in the past should be free.
Is it just me that doesn't really care all that much about trophies? I find them a nice way to squeeze a little bit more from a game, but I never get all that invested in trying to get them; I end up just getting bored, so I've never actually got a platinum trophy before on any game. It always find that the requirements are a bit ridiculous, and I'd rather spend my time in other ways than just scouring the area for the last collectable
I say no. The time for ps1/2,games have been. I don't mind the odd game but Sony should be focusing on new games not rehashing old games. Didn't get a ps4 to play old games from like 10-20 years ago
I have tons of those PS1 ports that played in my PSP ages ago. I don't want to pay for them again. However if they want to add trophies and PS4 integration that much (which I don't) there is a solution: just sell them with a small fee of 1 euro or something to those that have already bought them. Nintendo does the same with the Virtua Console games. If there is a Wii U version and you have the Wii one you can upgrade for 2 euros or something.
Edit: @Utena-mobile beat me to it.
Can't say i'm fussed, have a rediculous backlog as it is on my Vita and PS4, i dont really need any more.... not saying its a bad thing, but there are only 24 hours in a day!!
Yes they do, they need trophies. And I hear some selfishness here. YOU may own many PS1 games already but most people don't. They either weren't born back then or have sold theirs ages ago. If we can have some good games back with cleaned graphics and trophies it would be something that anyone could have use of. I'm thinking the way FF7 was treated. Or at least the way the PS2 classics were treated. There are lots of games I've never played or at least not beaten on PS1. Bring some RPGs, some platformers, maybe a racing game or two. There were tons of Japan and US exclusives too us Europeans may never have touched. It's only fair that the bring some of those games back if they can't make a remake out of everything anyway.
The trophies need to be easy enough - bear in mind no one will go back to an older game and put too much effort in. Those 100% completion trophies have to go.
@BranJ0 it's not just you, I also don't care about trophies. I long for the days before they existed.
I want ps1 games on ps4!(and vita!)
Yes, they should have been day 1. There is a reason why the Crash Collection was one of the few new announcements I found appealing at E3.
If you already have them and dont want to pay just skip them. Sony is always talking about new adopters and justifying that way so many remasters but somehow that doesnt apply to PS1 games.
cross buy between ps3, psp, and even vita, they need to be on ps4 as well.
don't care to much for trophies anyway.
I'd like to see psone games with trophy support. Slight improvements to make them run smoother are welcome too.
I would still rather play them on my Vita.
No. So many new games to play. No need for the old ps1 games that look bad on the screen. If there a market for a classic. Remaster it.
@brendon987 I agree. Although there are a few ps2 games I would be interested in that I doubt will get the remaster treatment.
I'd rather they just concentrate on something else.
I feel like I am in the mass gaming majority when I say no, we do not need PS1 games on the ps4. Think about it, who exactly would these games appeal to? People at or around my age. And the vast majority of us have families and all sorts of not fun responsibilities! Time is the precious commodity in gaming amongst those of with the fondest memories of the ps1, and I believe most would agree that time is better spent on new and exciting gaming experiences, not revisiting old ones only to tarnish the rosey images we keep of old games that aren't nearly as good as we imagine. If bringing these PS1 games to the ps4 doesn't hinder Sony from any of its new game development then have it, but if it takes even one penny away from something new than leave it where it is.
Yes absolutely.
I think it's silly that the newest,most powerful PS system does not support all (or at least many) of its previous games.
Yes. And please, don't add trophy support if we're going to have to buy it again.
No. I'm sick of them trying to squeeze every last penny out of everything, it's not just Sony they're all at it. Whatever happened to building good faith by adding things for free to pay back the people who invested in each new console at the start?
I think being cross buy is important, I think it would be dumb being forced to pay for the same games I've brought for my PS3.
I liked the games in the PS one era and they were good at the time. But going back will not recreate that moment when you first played it and enjoyed the game. Graphics have moved on and so has gameplay. What was accetptable then is not always good now.So its a no for me.
PS1 emulation on PS3 is functional, but kinda barebones. Would be great to see PS1 classics on PS4 in any form, but even better if they have extra features or at least have the emulator upgraded.
Would love to have PaRappa The Rapper to play again. Also, Final Fantasy Tactics wasn't available to play on PS3 either. Street Fighter Alpha 3 is my favourite of the series. Really been wanting to play Tomb Raider as well.
Yes. I voted #2.
***** PSOne classics are currently cross buy on EVERY Playstation system capable of connecting to PSN (that's PSP, Vita, and PS3), EXCEPT the newest and most powerful PS4. *****
WHY is that??
If 2 handhelds can do it, SURELY PS4 can!! I fear the answer is financial greed and they'd rather sell them to us for a THIRD time now (1st - PS1 original physical copy; 2nd - digital PS1 classic on PSP, Vita, and/or PS3).
We need more articles like this.
It should've been cross-buy from the beginning of the PS4, instead of charging people again for these old PS2 games from 10-15 years ago. every game ever purchased from PSN should be playable on the PS4, that would be fantastic. i dont like them trying to re-sell old content on ps4, they aren't focusing on new games. Instead, it's just constant rehashes, remasters and upscaled old games.
I enjoyed PS1 games back then, but now I'd rather spend my limited free time on more modern games. Completed Dark Cloud recently from PS2 era, but the rose-tinted specs were real. Saying that, I don't see why they shouldn't be available to those that want them, with trophy support and all that goes with it. People who don't care about trophies can still continue to do just that.
@Shellcore Yeah. There are lots of us who still play and enjoy PS1/PS2-era games.
Can they not just have cross buy and then have a "premium" unlock for a few extra bucks that'd add all the new features? I feel like that'd be the best way to split the difference.
There are few things I really want from sony Name changing being able to use an externall HDD to install games on and a better report system for mails on ps4 I am sick of getting men sending me pictures of a certain body part and having no way to report it
but I would be so happy for this when they said they were bring ps2 games with trophies to ps4 I figured cool but they don't seem to be doing them all which I would love so if they could do ps1 games and add trophies I would be all for it
As an owner of 600 or so psone and ps2 games combined, it would be great if we could just stick the discs into our ps4 and play em!!! As LEAST psone!! Cmon!!
someone up there mentioned emulators for home computers. Unfortunately, for me playing games of any kind is no longer possible on my PC. (And I just got into games!) My Antivirus program (McAfee- I actually paid for this thing!) is often scanning even when I am not on the internet, slowing down my computer, so playing games is not practical. I wonder how many people have this problem. Good thing you can still save up for a PS3!
(PS4, even if it were within my budget, is no good- I want to play Final Fantasy VIII because I like the story!)
Just remaster/remake the best games i played the old ones and they left a great memory lets keep it that way.
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