Poll: Take the Push Square PlayStation Meeting 2016 Community Quiz

For all of those people voting "over" $399 for Neo, do you really mean "over" as in $449 or more, or do you mean $399.99.

I think Neo will be $399. Though that is w/ 1TB. If It's 2TB I suppose $449 is more likely.

The $299 X1 Slim has 500GB, 4k and HDR, and an ultra blu-ray player and comes w/ the Halo Collection.

Neo at $399 w/ 500GB, 4k and HDR and blu ray, would mean that whole extra $100 went for more power, b/c otherwise it's the same as the slim. Is there really going to be more than $100 worth of extra power in PS4k Neo than the Slim? $100 more, yes, but more than $100?

The 1TB Madden bundle is $349, so if Neo is $449 it better come w/ 1TB and a good new game. Not more than $449 though.

PS4 Slim at $249 for 500GB and $300 for 1TB. Neo at $400 for 1TB and $500 for 2TB+game.

No doubt all the delayed ps4 games will be running on the neo. I know this is the reason they're delayed to make 2 version run, but won't admit die to not wanting to alienate their core gamers

If they do announce the Neo which I expect them to do then think it will go on sale this year which puts people in a situation. To get the new tech that is PSVR and Neo you are probably asking people to spend £750-£850. Thats a lot of money for which you could get a half decent gaming PC which plays a lot more games and better quality. I expect the Neo to be priced some where between £400-£450.

@dryrain You need $1000 for a vr compatible pc and another $600 for oculus rift or $800 for vive, plus you don't get batman vr, star wars vr, and the best vr racing (according to digital foundry) driveclub vr. I think $800 ps vr + neo combo is still a way better offer than pc compatible vr.

If they don't announce a Neo with a 2 TB option they would really be dropping the ball. I know you can replace the HD yourself but many people would love to have it right out of the box.

@rjejr 499.

Neo better come standard with a 2TB internal, or ill be slightly disappointed. At the very least, let it have an external feature. Or go the extra mile, 2TB standard in every Neo, PLUS external storage if you manage to fill the internal!

Voted yes for all, except the NEO price. NEO will be 399; Slim will be 249. Mark my words.

_{Or maybe not..}

Is the game of the month article coming? I mean, I guess it's Inside, but I also'd like to hear the rest

SHOW ME SOME GAMES...I can't afford a 4k tv lol, that console is still useless nowadays, not that many people have 4k tvs

I still don't think neo will be properly announced other than at most confirming it's existence with "details yet to be finalised" Tomorrow will be all about the slim and a final push for VR.

Scorpio and it's seemingly much more powerful hardware than the mooted neo should, I would imagine make Sony go back to the drawing board.

Releasing neo and psvr around the same time won't go down well outwith gaming enthusiasts with money to burn.

Can't really picture parents willing to spend around £800 this Christmas. It would be very brave to attempt that.

Already has been rumored 399 for new gpu and old cpu or 499 for both upgraded. There were lot of rumours. But if you put them all together, some of them make sense.

They need to put Slim lower because Xbox one s sells really cheap. 249$ and 399$ seems like good move to me. Still hope for some exchange option for ps4 and neo from distributors or directly from sony . If I should pay 200$ to my 3/4 year old ps4 exchange for neo Im in. Otherwise I'll stay with ps4.

Oooohhhh I'm still salty they created a new, has better graphics, PS4 so soon. I bought my PS4 expecting a 10 year life cycle. I feel like the timing on a slim version is perfect right now. That doesn't even bother me one bit. But this Neo just burns my biscuits. I wish this "Neo" was not only a stand alone console, but also an add-on that I could plug and play on my current PS4.

All I have to say is 500GB consoles need to die now. With AAA games hitting 50GB+, it's simply not enough.

Admittedly, I'm kinda torn between saying yes to a Neo announcement or Slim announcement. For whatever reason, I feel like the announcement of one could be a detriment to the other. Why would you want a Slim if there's a better, more powerful model? Why would you want a Neo when there's a revamped model for a cheaper price?

Either way, both have been revealed and known ahead of time, so they need to say something about them sooner or later.

I can't see the Neo coming in at $399 with anything more than 500GB - that's the same price as the XB1s with 2TB - $100 more than the 500GB slim. I can see Sony bringing out a few variations - like the slim a $399 500gb version and a $499 2TB variation...

I would expect the Slim to be priced at $249 or less - it doesn't have an optical link and no doubt has other cost saving additions so likely to be a 'budget' option for those who can't or don't want to stretch to the Neo cost.

@WebHead The slim at $250 (or cheaper) would get me to finally buy a PS4 this holiday season. I don't have a lot of money but man, I want to play Gravity Rush 2 and Horizon Zero Dawn!

Think the Neo will launch next year and be around €400.

Slim will be between €200-300

@adf86 That's what I was thinking, but for some reason, I had an odd feeling about it. I guess just seeing two different models potentially being revealed at the same time felt weird to me.

@AFCC "not that many people have 4k tvs"

But they will. Football season is starting, Madden has launched. 4k tvs are getting nearly as cheap as 1080p tvs. I think there will be a big push this holiday on 4k tvs and an even bigger push after the holidays during the NFL playoffs in the run up to the Superbowl. And yes, I know, there is no football broadcast in 4k, but when the men get to drinking and growling reason leaves them. Expect reports next January about how well 4k tvs sold this holiday. Especially if Sony and MS push their 4k consoles. And every Xbox 1 Slim has 4k video, so they will be pushing it. Which is why PS4 Slim better be cheap if ti doesn't do 4k Netlfix.

@BAMozzy "who can't or don't want to stretch to the Neo cost"

Or those who also want to buy PSVR. And then buy games for PSVR. There must have been meetings at Sony HQ discussing if it's worth it to loose money on PS4 Slim to sell more PSVR to compete against Occulus and Hive. Can't be a coincidence Slim and PSVR launching a month apart. And then make up some of the money on an overpriced PS4k for those who like to spend.

Strangely enough, I'm not sure they'll announce any new games. I think it's possible we'll get some release dates for existing titles or maybe some remasters, but nothing brand spanking new. I hope I'm terribly wrong on this of course.

@rjejr Of course they will! Just like HD tvs before...the thing is the price is too high for what we're getting! When 4k tvs cost 500 euros or so then we'll see people getting 4k tvs! But that's some time away in my honest opinion...
I think it's too soon...like, are people honestly trading their PS4s for NEO? Like...if it's a 100 euro buy and trade deal then ok...but buying the same console again with little tweaks, no, thanks! And believe me I'm a big big big Sony and Playstation fan! I have every console they made but I'm not feeling this one...

So as well as a quiz, do we have to guess the time of the briefing? (Haven't seen the time mentioned in any other articles on here unless my eyes are hiding it!)

@stevejcrow It's 8PM UK time tomorrow. I'll put up a quick guide at some point just so people know, but until then, there's this:

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2016/09/sony_confirms_official_stream_for_playstation_meeting_2016

@AFCC "are people honestly trading their PS4s for NEO"

I've personally thought since the beginning that Sony wouldn't make this about upgrading, that they would emphasize - "if you already have a PS4 you don't need this, buy PSVR instead, unless you are the kind of person who buys a 4k tv, then buy a 4k PS4."

That comment works on 2 levels. 1. It lets current PS4 owners feel safe and reassured, that Sony hasn't forgotten them, it's ok to go out and buy a PSVR adn more games, they will all work just fine. 2. It tugs at egos, and people with egos are usually the ones who spend too much money on too many new toys. "Hey you, yeah PS4 is fine, but your better than your neighbor aren't you? Mock them, buy a PS4k, you know you want to, you're better than they are." And if you can afford a 4k TV, then you can afford a PS4k Neo. And a PSVR too.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony goes the entire presentation without uttering the word upgrade. In fact I dont' think they'll ever say it. They want to sell cheap PS4 Slims and PSVR too, let the rich buy the Neo, make their friends, jealous, then their friends will buy 1 too. Sony doens't need to sell Neo, smug rich folk will do that for them. "Keeping up with the Jones" is a sickness.

Wait, I forgot. 80 million PS3, 40 million PS4. Sony will say "upgrade", but to PS3 owners, not PS4 owners. "If you have a PS4 you're already good to go, go buy a PSVR and start playing. If you only own a PS3 and have been waiting, now is the time to upgrade to a new Neo PS4." So they might say upgrade, but only for PS3 owners, not PS4 owners. I just wanted to be clear, don't want to look like a liar if they come hard after PS3 owners like me.

@rjejr well, that's cool and all! But if from now on they start making presentations only on Neo it's a major d*ck move for us regular ps4 owners! I think this upgraded PS4 idea is really dumb and I would much prefer a PS5 lol

@WebHead
That's what I'm thinking. MS really hit it out of the park with the Xbox One S, that's how you do a mid-cycle refresh but Sony has gone a different route. The Neo will obviously be the upgrade but for people just looking for the basic PS4 experience a slim, for possibly as low as $250, would be a heck of a great deal. It'll be interesting to see what happens. I think MS' strategy is better and less convoluted but if the messaging is clear Sony can make this work.

I'm pretty confident I will ace this.

@ShogunRok Cheers, missed that story earlier.

@AFCC I would much prefer a PS5

If people are upset from a PS4 refresh after only 2 years, just imagine how a PS5 after only 2 years would go over.

@Gamer83 "I think MS' strategy is better and less convoluted"

Make all Xbox One games playable on PC, making X1 redundant, and announce Scorpio 18 months in advance while promoting the S. I'm not sure that's less convoluted.

I know you are just talking about S, and I agree, S is nice. It's cheap, 4k Netflix, ultra blu ray drive, and 3 HDD sizes (which I personally think is 1 too many but whatever) Slim, Neo and PSVR is a crowded plate.

@AFCC Target TV sale email. 4k tvs as low as $379 for 40". Curved ones do tend to be a bit expensive, but I think you are paying for the curve, not the 4k.

http://www.target.com/sb/tvs-home-theater-electronics/-/N-5xtdjZ5tdv0Z5tdv2Z55e6tZ55dw7Z55e6uZ55e69Z5tdv1?ref=tgt_email_HP609061&emseq=5230211692008388&link=TVDEALS&tp=i-H55-7x-Jtl-Lo1nO1-1q-6NbZI-1c-9Tcx-LnvCcT-VSLvS

"Will Sony show three or more PS4 games running on Neo at the PlayStation Meeting?"

Sorry to nitpick, but technically yes as all games run on Neo and vice versa!

@rjejr Agree, not sure MS's strategy is better in any way. They're reacting (read: freaking out) to Sony kicking their ass and just seem to be throwing the kitchen sink at it.

I think they are being quite clever in hiding the fact that Scorpio is really their next console while covering it up as an extension of X1.

@Dodoo That's the advantage of using Windows 10 I guess, in theory it could make all their hardware unified from here on out. Might not work like that of course, but we'll see.

I think the only topics of real debate for me tonight are the price point, and how well the console will integrate with VR. Gut feeling says it's going to be a price increase but I'd be pleasantly surprised if the console launches at the same price as the current PS4.

@Dodoo that Scorpio is really their next console

I kind of feel that way too. It may not be a huge step up, like Gmaecub eto Wii maybe, and it will have full BC, but it seems more like they are preparing people for the next Xbox, b/c if it has exclusives, then it's the next Xbox. (New 3DS had 1 main exclusive, XC, but that was already a Wii port so I cut it some slack.)

And really, w/ a string of names like Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One, it really doesn't matter what they name it either b/c there isnt a code breaking computer in the universe that could fill out the next name in that pattern. Well OK, Xbox something, but that something could be anything.

@rjejr lol yeah they love to throw a curveball in when they name their products! I mean what the hell happened to Windows 9?! lol

Looking back the Xbone should have been called the Xbox 180 just because of the number of U-turns they made!

@Dodoo what the hell happened to Windows 9?

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@rjejr Very good! +1

@Dodoo You're out to lunch if you think Scorpio is their next console and will replace Xbox One. There won't be a next console for Microsoft. It'll all be straight to PC within five years.

@FourPlay Thanks for the insight Major Nelson!

@rjejr Sure fair point! But are you really expected to spend 1000 euros on a new console and on the PSVR? Like I really wish I could but it's too much...