Soapbox: Why We Need Horizon: Zero Dawn DLC

I keep waiting for it to be announced, but I'll be more than happy if they don't and a year from now we hear about H:ZD2.

If it's done it's done, leave it alone.

This time they shouldn't t just focus on the sequel? I totally get what you mean but given how much hell you gave to other games fo focusing on post launch content an articles like this os kinda cringeworthy.

I'd be happy with just the option to buy some of the bows or outfits that came with deluxe/collector's editions. I'm sure that will happen in the next month or so.

@get2sammyb Based on the FFXV PC tech demo they showed at GDC, i'd be more than willing to bet those 200 people are also working on a PC port for next year.

Every game obviously benefits from post dlc but the fact there's been nothing announced speaks wonders for what guerrilla have achieved here

Expansion?! I haven't even beaten the game yet! I'm taking my time with this gem. Come back after I've beaten it and have a hankering for more!

To be honest, given it will take me at least a month or two to finish this game at my current rate, I will probably be a bit tired of it and not want DLC. However, I agree with the point of the article. If a developer releases a good game, doesn't ask for money up front for season passes and then releases a decent expansion, then we should support that. The Witcher set the bar for DLC and I think anyone that follows their lead should be commended.

@get2sammyb there are people that enjoy FFXV (and other games) just as much as you enjoy Horizon and are happy to receive these free updates. How financially viable this is for SE is honestly not my concern I am a customer not an employee. And if so many people are still working on it there must be something big on the way...pc port and more. That said I hope we get to play more Horizon, I am sure I will like the game from what I've seen so far...

I guarantee that there will be DLC in the future, possibly within 4 to 6 months. But remember, the game has only been out for 4 days, so there focus right now is to relax and enjoy gamers feedback and reviews on the game instead of thinking about DLC at the moment.

Good - that means they havent held any back any content intended for the base game. That should mean any expansions should be decent and not feel like a cheap cash in.

Also I agree with @Feena and strongly suspect the ff15 team are working on a PC port. Square will want as many sales as they can get given how much they spent making it.

@Rob_230 @RedMageLanakyn Square Enix is even more poorly managed than we thought if it takes 200 people to port a game to PC!

@ShogunRok Well I did say "also", so a portion would be on PC port, another on DLC. A lot more work is needed to port a game, especially with a new engine, from a closed system to an open system, with thousands of hardware configuration options. Also, i'd consider the FF team "rookies" at PC ports at this stage, so they will need all the help they can get if they hope to deliver a working port.

All that being said, if those 200 are ONLY working on DLC, yes, i will agree at this stage it's a huge waste.

Sign of a good game. Leaves you wanting more.

@get2sammyb The objection has never been to dlc, to be fair. The objection is when instead of "would you like fries with that?" games ask "do you want a bun with your burger?". Horizon DLC would be the former.

DLC itself is not a bad thing. The issue is that DLC is used in order to squeeze more revenue instead of enhancing the gameplay experience.

I never have a problem with DLC unless it's clearly taken away from a title just to line pockets (unfortunately that's most DLC these days). Games like Horizon easily have massive DLC potential, and I'd always like to see great expansions to them.

Of course, not every game needs DLC. I'd like to see games deliver full experiences without it, but if you're gonna put DLC there, do it right!

DLC was used 7(8) times during this comment.

@get2sammyb I actually agree with you. DLC was at first intended as a way to expand games. You get a complete game and a few months down the line, maybe longer, they would make and release an expansion if people wanted it. These days while games are being developed they very clearly cut content out to sell back to us later, providing only the bare minimum of content in the base game (I'm looking at you Battlefront).

I absolutely hate the latter kind of DLC, but I love the first kind. Deliver a full game, don't even consider DLC until you have completed a game and released it. If it is popular then you have an opportunity to work on extra quality content, which fans will appreciate and allows you as a developer to really focus on perfecting your art.

Of course that isn't as profitable so likely wont ever happen.

DLC is not bad, it's just that we're so accustomed to bad dlc and AAA games content carved for dlc that now dlc has a bad name.

If horizon has dlc I hope it will be like uncharted 4 story dlc rather than others game dlc.

Have to finish the game before deciding if I'd like to see some DLC or if I'd prefer to just wait for the possible sequel. If the game does seem ripe for DLC, all I can say is I hope Guerrilla follows CD Projekt Red's example and not some other companies.

If they make it sizable, like in the Witcher 3 DLCs, then they can have my money on day one! I'm sure they're already discussing ideas for a sequel - but if they can spare resources to make a DLC, I hope that by all means they do. Otherwise, just focus on Horizon 2: One Dawn!

Talk of DLC already?!? Done with the game then lol, that was quicker than FFXV!!! I'm getting the game when it's cheaper, best way to aproach the one and done game's. No NG+ either, that's just crazy.

@kyleforrester87 Yeah i'm kinda the same I was all up for DLC when I finished FFXV's story and most of the content but now i'm like meh idc if they bother or not now i'll probably not bother anyway, i've moved on and cba'd going back because when I think about it it really was not that good i'm like that with most story driven game's. All this DLC was good when it was new and it was worth it but now it's more of a reason for me to not buy a game, they just drag the game's/main story out now and spread it out over DLC's so they can make money, remember when game's were made for gamer's and not for profit??? They were the day's...

What a weird article.

Loving this game so far....

I am down for more robot dinosaurs.

wooah! I've been thinking about this, "additional" Content is welcomed, I'd buy them gladly! Anyone who finished the game already knows...it will satisfy you, but you'll also have the feeling that it's not enough! you want to bang more machines after all XD
I love this game...a Pure new IP! <3

Sony seems to have adopted a stand alone sequence for it's latest games...The Last of Us: Left Behind, Second Son: First Light, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy...maybe more of this?

@xMEADx You could read the article instead of being a idiot. Its not planned Sammy would love to see some.....

@Flaming_Kaiser you could try reading my post?!?! I never even mentioned or gave the impression that I thought there was any DLC planned and if I did it certainly wasn't intentional, if anything it was meant light heartily, i'll refrain from childish insult's.

Not sure how far I've got in the game but I'm really enjoying it. It's too soon for me to think about DLC because I've got enough to get going on with and don't know how I'll feel when I'm done. I usually complete all the side missions so will have to do those and get my fill before deciding whether I want more or to go back and round again. I suspect the DLC will have to offer something very different for me to actually want it. The Destiny DLC and expansions were ultimately more of the same and in my opinion, not that imaginative -garnering only a single run through with one character. Horizon DLC will have to be a real eye-opener and have a big 'wow!!' factor before it attracts me.

Personally I think the huge, and unjustified backlash against DLC, is the culprit here. Companies knew that there was a solid market for dlc and so included DLC plans in the early planning stages. That made sense because the dlc was calculated in the overall budget, but it was also not completed by launch, therefore not cut from the original content. Yet the entirled generation kept insisting that they should have that content, and made baseless accusations against every debeloper that announced a season pass.

Yet now that you have a game that doesn't offer a season pass/additional dlc you ask why? The reason is that the developer saw a chance to build hype around their franchise by giving the internet crowd what they wanted, and thereby deprived reasonable people of what they wanted.

Well done internet. Well done.

I platinum very few games, but this was by far one of the greatest experiences I've had but playing a title that I just had to do everything in it. On a high note they are working on a story expansion according to gamespot.com sources.

I don't think I've ever been this thirsty for dlc