Sony’s first-party output has been very strong since the PlayStation 3 days, but thanks to the success of the PlayStation 4, it’s starting to see the commercial rewards. And speaking as part of a Game Lab panel in Spain this week, exec Shawn Layden outlined the organisation's “first, best, must” mantra, which is the philosophy it adopts when greenlighting exclusives.
“First means creating a first of its kind game — a genre that doesn’t exist, a market that hasn’t been actualised yet,” he said. “Will your game do that?” A good example of this type of title in the platform holder’s current portfolio would be Dreams – or perhaps even Death Stranding, depending upon what it actually is. Layden cited Concrete Genie as another such project.
“Best is probably the easiest one to explain,” he continued. “If you’re best, it means if you’re making an action adventure, you’re making Uncharted or God of War. If you’re making a racing game, you’re making Gran Turismo. Or a golf game, Everybody’s Golf, my favourite golf game. You must be the best in class.”
So what is the ‘must’ category all about, then? “There are some games we must do, even if initially the profitability might be hard to make,” he added. “For example, an easy one for that is PlayStation VR games. When you’re trying to grow the PSVR installed base, how many units are in homes, it’s difficult for some third-parties to look at that addressable market and get the business to work for them.”
The one major takeaway from Layden’s comments is that Sony isn’t interested in stealing sales away from third-parties; the company wants to expand the spectrum of experiences on PlayStation, rather than double-down in categories already well serviced. “We’re not here to create games that steal market share from other publishers,” he concluded.
[source venturebeat.com]
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Shawn's come a long way since that awkward E3 2014 presentation.
And it's working out great, my only wish is Sony using the success of this generation to going back into making the more experimental titles like Journey, Rain, Tokyo Jungle etc.
Whilst it sounds good - I do think some of it is PR speak too. I think the primary goal is money but you can't say that the primary function is money/profitability. I know VR games have to be made right now because Sony want you to buy into their VR headset and the major 3rd Party devs aren't going to invest heavily in making games that only a handful of gamers (comparatively) can play. If they can't make VR work though, money will ultimately see it neglected and die off...
Media Molecule have kind of earned the opportunity to make something a little different - even though it is a bit 'Project Spark' too mixed with MS Paint and we often see some more 'creative and unique' games in the 'indie' market so Concrete Genie fits there.
As for the 'best', there are a lot of third person action games and a number of Racing sims too but in fairness, Sony's are certainly up there with the 'best' in these genres. Whether they are the 'best' in every category, or just more polished is debatable. I really like Uncharted for example but some find the game-play quite repetitive and the 'gun play' to be less than great. I personally prefer the latest Tomb Raiders in terms of game-play and structure - more depth from the crafting and RPG mechanics and it feels less linear - but Uncharted's story is better.
As for Death Stranding, Sony would have green-lighted anything as they knew Kojima's name will sell it. It could easily be another MGS or a Battle Royale clone and Sony would green light it because of Kojima.
What Sony do do well is allow the developers to polish their games so that they release when they are ready. You don't (generally) get a game that needs Patch after patch to fix it or rush it out to meet a financial deadline (like EA do). Of course some games did seem to slip through - like Drive Club and GT Sport arguably was only 'half' a game - low on cars, no career mode etc which I know both were fixed or added to after launch.
Anyway, I am still looking forward to games like Spider-Man, Days Gone, Ghost of Tsushima and Last of Us 2 but I do think Sony are more likely to think of the money first and foremost but it does sound good to say First, Best, Must. Its a bit like never answering 'because I want money' when asked why are you applying for a job...
PlayStation to me is defined by it's exclusives. It's great that they're taking them seriously, and clearly it's paying off. For them and us.
If you create a game that is the first of its genre, how can you know if it is the best or not? You have to see other similar games to objectively decide how good it is.
Also, Uncharted is not "best" in anything. Some God of war games are absolute masterpieces (some, not all of them), but Uncharted is really forgettable if you ask me.
@LuckyLand they don't mean first and best, they mean first or best.
@LuckyLand That’s your opinion, Uncharted games are great according to many, just check the scores, GOTY awards and sales.
That's why I like playstation, there's always a new ip every gen. Like ape escape on ps1, god of war on ps2, uncharted on ps3, and horizon zd on ps4
Customer "can we have Mario on Playstation?"
Layden "in your dreams" wink wink rofl
I appreciate this type of promotion of a console over the bombast and generic hyperbole that comes from other platform holders.
We have proof of these concepts in the games we can go buy right now, and judging by E3, there are plenty more great titles to come.
Keep it up, Sony!
I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford all the consoles. With that said, if I could only get one, it'd easily be PlayStation without question. Their exclusives are second to none , in my opinion.
@playstation1995 There are many trolls here nowadays. They always attack Uncharted. Just let them suffer seeing that Uncharted has better scores, awards and sales than many multiplats out there, including that copy called TR.
‘...the company wants to expand the spectrum of experiences on PlayStation, rather than double-down in categories already well serviced. “We’re not here to create games that steal market share from other publishers,” he concluded.’
So 90% of Sony’s output of recent games have been because 3rd party has been ignoring the Sandbox narrative genre?
Frankly I think what he’s saying is an insult to Sony’s first party studios. It implies they aren’t trying their hardest to create the best they can to give 3rd party a chance. Which is also an insult to 3rd party games as well.
I’m guessing it’s a thinly veiled jab at Nintendo for having first party games that dominate the sales on their systems, but to me all games are competition to each other- people will put their finite money in what they want the most. That doesn’t mean Nintendo should lower game production to force people to buy a 3rd party game in a different genre instead. If you’re spending your last £50 on Spider Man, you won’t be buying Red Dead, or COD, or 4 indie games for the same money. It’s the duty of the game publisher to have a good idea, execute it to the best of your ability so the customer gets a good game for their buck, and expect your competition to do the same.
@LuckyLand I agree, to a point. Uncharted to me stands out as one of the few games on the scene that has legitimately good writing and deserves all the hype it gets in that regard. And the music really sells the global adventure feel. Reminds me of Indiana Jones.
But gameplay wise? Yeah. The games are totally generic and forgettable. Set pieces are cool and I really enjoy them, but they're not a replacement for mechanical depth.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is the Uncharted games are pretty okay and I'm glad I got the Nathan Drake Collection on sale.
Question is can they keep this up for PS5 remember the gaming world consoles are like on a seesaw one is best for most of the gen then can quickly sink. MS found that out with the 360 Vs PS3 if is wasnt for Sony charging $500 for PS3 at launch then MS wouldn't never have sold so many. Unfortunately they rushed that console in production because they were worried about the PS3 and look again snapped then in the backside with RRoD. This gen MS did the same thing thinking well they paid $500 for PS3 they will for X1 and it backfired for them only to realise that PS4 was better in not only price but specs (in a tiny way), so why not claw you money back from X1 and release the true console X1 should have been
@David187 I am not a fan of XBox for sure. I have hated so much the first two XBox consoles that I have not even tried the XBox one. I just don't want anything to do with XBox consoles at this point. I just don't like this modern way to conceive games, with characters that look too much like real life people, with narratives and structure that try to mimic movies, with narrative elements that are imposed to player instead of letting them imagine the details the way they prefer... I just don't like, for the most part, this new way of making games. In older games everything was much more idealized and also less defined so the player was also able to "fill the gaps" imagining things the way he liked the most, but today they always try to get so close to reality that the games and the characters become boring and everything about them is so detailed in the cutscenes, in the dialogues, in how much the plot is developed, that usually I just can't suffer them.
@PS_Nation i have ps4 xbox one and a switch, ps4 is defo the best console out of all of them with the best games, im not a troll but uncharted is the weakest exclusive of all the ps4 exclusives, i didnt get into them till ps4, but i can see why people dont think they are amazing, the series could of done with a few deaths, to make it great, as it is, its just a cheesy action game where everyone is happy.
Saying that i can see why people enjoy them, i would rate them 7 out of ten, but just because people dont enjoy them as much as u doesnt make them trolls
Pr speak clearly, but fanboys will fall for anything
There are some exceptional games at Sony exclusive portfolio, no doubt, but there are games which don't fall into any of these categories.
As far as the "must" part of the philosophy goes, it's a shame they didn't apply that more vigorously to games for the Vita.
@LuckyLand "If you create a game that is the first of its genre, how can you know if it is the best or not?"
If it's the only one of its kind, it is automatically the best of its kind. It's also simultaneously the most average, and the worst.
@NecuVise Such as?
@Tsurii You're in the minority.
@get2sammyb Knack, Days Gone, Spiderman, Infamous Second Son, The Order 1866, GT Sport, Driveclub, Killzone Shadow Fall.
@NecuVise
Knack - Must (PS4 launch title, family game)
Days Gone - Best (Maybe it'll suck, but it's clear the goal is to make the best zombie open world game)
Spider-Man - Best (Clearly aiming to be the best superhero open world game)
inFAMOUS: Second Son - Must (PS4 launch window exclusive)
The Order: 1886 - First (Narrative-driven shooter that was clearly a big creative risk that didn't really come together)
GT Sport - Best (Maybe you don't agree, but it's clearly aiming to be the best racing sim on consoles)
DriveClub - Must (Was supposed to be a PS4 launch title)
Killzone: Shadow Fall - Must (Was a PS4 launch title)
They all fit the philosophy. It's perhaps worth remembering that you're not going to achieve the goal with every single project, but the philosophy for why all of these titles were produced fits exactly with Shawn Layden's comments.
@Nakatomi_Uk 360 cheaper and a year start yet ps3 the much more expensive console caught up and finished that generation with a slightly more overall sales, if you can take credit from vgchartz tells us. Having a more expensive ps3, did this allow 360 to sell their console? It had some impact but you can look at 360 sales of 80 million and wonder is that really the install base? I think not. We ourselves have or at least know someone who has has bought more than one 360 because of the failure rate. I had my 2nd 360 die and said no more for me. I wouldn't buy a third model of the same car if I had 2 previous engine failures. So what really help 360 sales was the red ring of death.
@LuckyLand uncharted is one of my favourite series. What are you talking about?
@get2sammyb Okay, maybe they had/have that goal, but my point is some of them certainly did not achieve it.
@NecuVise Of course not. Every team enters the World Cup with the intention to win it, but only one will.
Uncharted 4 was a 'must' for me.
It was the system seller for me and remains the best game on the PS4 by a country mile.
Once something gets popular it attracts criticism. Nothing new to see here.
@get2sammyb yeah, sure. If you look at it this way then every game could fall in some of those categories. Fifa aims to be the best football simulation, CoD to be the best online FPS, need for speed to be the best racer, watch dogs to be the first and best hacker open world game etc etc. So basically everybody make games with the same aims if we look at it your way.
Sony's exclusives have been great this gen, sometimes the big ones feel a bit far and few between. I think they should open more studios, especially considering that a number have closed down this gen.
Jeez, people being ripped to shreds because they have the audacity to not like Uncharted, god forbid people are allowed to have their own opinions. Also love how the people calling others trolls are the ones doing the trolling, the same group as per usual.
@Storytime7 ok deleted then...
But ey maybe one day solutions are possible...
@PS_Nation You have been warned several times now about calling people out as fanboys. This is your last warning next time you start with that you will be given a vacation from the site, I am trough with the warnings. It's ok to love a particult thing but to insult others is not exceptable.
@playstation1995 Also you need to stop with the insults as well if you can't respond to someone's opinion in a friendly postivie manner then you will get a vacation as well.
Now I have cleaned up the comment section I am giving out a warning the next person that wanted to call others users trolls, or any other insults will earn themselves a vacation from Push Square. I am tired of this nonsense
Thanks for Understanding
@Tasuki
@PS_Nation Because here a Push Square you don't have to like Sony to be a part of the community and just cause someone disagrees with you, or doesn't like the same things as you doesn't make them a troll. I suggest you look up the meaning. An no user does not deserve to called that regardless.
@LuckyLand each to there own but gaming is only going to get more & more realistic which for me is how I want it.
@Toadie no saying you do not like Uncharted is ok or anything in this world when people try to discredit things in a way that is disingenuine that irks me.
just because you do not like people standing up for things they like! it is not always trolling...
@David187 You obviously haven't seen the comments that were deleted, i don't want to rake them up as Tasuki has clearly said he doesn't want it to continue but i'm fine with people defending what they like actually, don't know where in my comment i've implied that i don't ??? lol
I personally really like Uncharted by the way
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