Humanity has a price, and Epic Games is willing to pay it. Quantic Dream’s trilogy of ex-PlayStation exclusives are coming to the PC, which means that Heavy Rain, Beyond: Two Souls, and Detroit: Become Human will no longer be tethered solely to Sony’s systems. Controversially, the trio will initially launch as Epic Games Store exclusives – although it sounds like they will be free to deploy elsewhere after a year has elapsed.
Bizarrely, looking at the licensing information on each title’s respective product page, the Japanese giant will be publishing these games; the company is, at the very least, listed as the copyright holder. This differs from titles like Journey, which are in the process of being ported to the PC with Annapurna Interactive acting as the publisher. Presumably the platform holder feels that these titles have served their purpose as exclusives.
It’s not exactly a massive surprise, though, as the French developer recently revealed that it will be turning its attention to multiformat development, after NetEase purchased a minority stake in the firm. Do you feel that this lessens the appeal of the PlayStation platform? Could you see other externally developed exclusives like Bloodborne launching on the PC in the future? Skip the shower scene in the comments section below.
[source gamerevolution.com]
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This is weird behaviour from Sony. You'd think with the amount of success they're having through their own titles that they'd adhere to the Nintendo approach of locking down exclusives to their platform, but instead they're going more and more in the direction of Microsoft. And I had just assumed Microsoft put all their games on PC because they weren't doing particularly well commercially, so why is Sony following suit?
Or maybe Epic just threw a massive cauldron of money Shawn Layden's way.
EPIC must have a good relationship with Sony. I wonder how much money it took for Sony to agree to it.
Does this mean all of Sony's exclusives are up for grabs for the right price?
I doubt Sony sees Detroit as a system seller in the same way Uncharted 4, Horizon, or God of War are. All of which also come from first party studios.
If Sony starts to release their games on another platform, what’s the point to have a PlayStation then? A platform without exclusives is nothing.
@ShogunRok What about Bloodborne and more importantly Knack?
@Fight_Sora_Fight Epic has been throwing money down for timed exclusivity deals all over the place. I doubt it'll do much good, though: their store is garbage compared to Steam. They didn't even have a search function on the launcher until recently.
PC gamers are a patient lot. We'll wait until they come to Steam, and then wait until they go low in a sale as thanks for having been made to wait a year.
@Fight_Sora_Fight Knack on the Epic Games Store is the day I become a PC gamer.
If Sony is publishing, they will continue to make money from these games.
It is possible that Sony is exploring other avenues to make money from some of their games.
It's weird and I'm not sure I like it.
I want PlayStation to be the great exclusive place & different not the same as everyone else starting to wonder if Shawn Laydon is the right person lately to be in charge.
@Cpt_Price how so? quantic dream was always independent and a second party developer. you will NOT see sony's first party games ported to pc EVER. only via streaming (ps now) is it a possibility.
Sony needs to clarify asap if they will start to release all their games on PC. If that’s what they’re going to do, I will not get a PS5.
@Porco Yeah, Quantic Dream is third party, but they developed games for Sony, and Sony published them. Sony owns the IP, so it's no different than God of War or Uncharted.
@Porco To be fair, technically these are first-party games. They're funded, published, and owned by Sony.
My guess is that Quantic Dream wanted these to go elsewhere and the two companies came to some kind of agreement to make it happen.
At the end of the day, this is still return of investment for Sony. Maybe they feel that there's more value in them being on the Epic Games Store than there is in them being system sellers now. I could see that logic to be honest.
That's cool, now more people will be able to enjoy these good games.
No way I'll ever download the Epic Launcher on my PC. I already have the games on PS4 anyway.
I'm glad that PC gamers will get to play this.
Not all treasure is silver or gold...
@ShogunRok i have 1000$ just ready to be spent on building a pc for knack.
@PS_Nation they probably will only release second party exclusives(not developed by first party studios) on pc like journey and now the quantic dream games. All first party sony exclusives are usually system sellers so i doubt you will see horizon 2 or god of war on pc.
I'll wait for it to come to Steam I guess. I'm not interested in installing yet another launcher, and epic's track record with getting hacked isn't so great.
eh don't like this.
exclusives are the main reason to get a console and i don't want sony to be like MS.
however this could just be because quantic was going multplat anyway but i would have thought that only their future game would go that way.
oh well,i will only start to panic when the other exclusives go to pc.
this is most likely just because quantic are going multiplat.
It's kind of weird seeing sony exclusives on pc since exclusives is the reason not only why people own console, but choosing it platform too. I rather see sony put this exclusives on psnow to boost its value rather than porting it to pc.
Now its a platform wars everywhere, where disney pull its content on netflix to boost its own platform, while sony is putting their exclusives on another platform/store, its weird.
I hope Sony don't start adding more games. They maybe the publisher but the point of exclusives is to get people into PlayStation. What if they added Spider-Man or Bloodborne or worse? It's just catering to people who don't want a PlayStation and really Sony shouldn't be bothering with their custom.
Shawn Layden is the wrong man for this job. Playstations whole comeback last gen was thru their exclusives and a massive part of their current success with the PS4 also. I really dislike the way Playstation is heading. No exclusives no reason to own your platform.
Plus the lack of communication is pissing me off. What is Sony doing?
No E3
Censorship of video games (art)
Lack of communication
Putting exclusives on different platforms
They're losing it.
@ShogunRok That's not the point though. Playstation is a brand that is heavily known for it's high quality exclusive output, if they start putting them on other platforms then they start damaging the brand and risk upsetting their most loyal consumers.
Jeez calm down people they are not Putting anything else on pc
@JAMes-BroWWWn just a note about the censorship:sony is not the only one doing it.
pc is also guilty of this. maybe MS too in some way.
i know that it may not be a good thing,but it anoys me that everyone points to sony while other big platforms also do that stuff and no one blinks an eye.
@JAMes-BroWWWn Shawn has nothing to do with this, and this seems like a rare situation due to sony ending their partnership with QD. Sony is not publishing these games on epics store.
@Areus Yet. Hence the concern.
@AdamNovice Do you really think sony is going to put Games that Sell Consoles like uncharted Or Horizon Zero dawn on pc
@Areus Normally I'd say no but after today who bloody knows anymore. Besides just putting a game like Detroit (which isn't even a year old) just gives people the impression that more might follow. What if Bloodborne or Spider-man followed suit? People will then start thinking "I'm going to wait to get game x till it comes on PC, I can wait a year". That's not really how you want to build a platform.
I don't think losing some of your must memorable exclusives for some cash sounds good in my opinion
@Amppari Sony owns the IP of Beyond and Detroit. So maybe it's not Shawn(even though I think it's him) but someone else at Sony/Playstation publishing it on Epic Store. That's just off. Detroit has the logo "Only On Playstation" yet it's going to PC. It's simply concerning.
@AdamNovice exactly. What's next GoW, Uncharted, HZD?! The whole Only On Playstation meana nothing anymore. False advertising.
Sony lied again about exclusivity, games like Detroit and Nioh have the logo “Only on PlayStation”, and these games were released on PC less than a year later.
Ratchet & Clank, Spider-Man and Bloodborne were also developed by third-party studios, so these games are going to PC as well?
@JAMes-BroWWWn You’re right, if Shawn Layden is responsible for this, he needs to go.
jeez people.
i don't like this either but maybe just wait with the whole "evil shawn layden" comments.
i know we are all fanboys and our exclusives are like our treasures but just don't go acting like sony and shawn are the antichrist untill this situation goes further than quantic.
it's already bad enough when the usual suspects do that stuff,don't be like them please.
@jdv95 I wholeheartley agree but as huge fans of Playstation and everythings it's about today is a huge concern about what Sony want Playstation to be. I don't really want a world where the only way to game is either PC or through streaming subscrption services.
@NintendoFan4Lyf I briefly had the Epic launcher on my computer when they were giving away Shadow Complex Remastered for free, but it didn't take long for me to just uninstall it anyway.
I have no issue with Steam having more competitors, but Epic's nakedly aggressive anti-consumer tactics designed to artificially prop up an unappealing service just rubs me the wrong way.
@PS_Nation you are absolutely correct. They simply lied - false advertising. Arrogant Sony is back and it's worse than ever before.
Lying to your loyal customers who support you through and through. I've been with Playstation for the unmatchable exclusives, but if they put them on PC I'm off.
@AdamNovice oh i get the concern,i feel it too,but some of these comments are just getting childish.
@jdv95 come on. Look at all the most recent statements Shawn Layden has made. Gaming beyond consoles and such things.
You actually might be right and neither Shawn nor anyone else at Playstation has any plans for future PS exclusives on PC. But that leads to the most frustrating issue with Playstation. Lack of communication. If they just communicated, we'd understand. But letting us in uncertainty is irritating.
Id Say all of this is more about Quantic Dream Wanting To Go mutiplatform But not having any independently ownd ips to so
@jdv95 I agree it's time for clear heads and constructive critcism to send Sony's way.
Btw, the usual suspects are loving this, of course they wouldn’t mind all these games going to PC.
Stadia was announced yesterday, the first thing Sony does after the announcement is release “exclusives” for another platform.
Enough is enough. There are many examples of fake advertisement: Nioh, Journey, Flower, Everybody’s Gone to the Rapture, Helldivers and now all games made by Quantic Dream.
What’s next? Spider-Man? Ratchet & Clank? Bloodborne? Until Dawn? Let’s release those on Epic Store so we can have exclusive skins for Fortnite.
@JAMes-BroWWWn They communicate this way: releasing a game and saying it’s an exclusive. Less than a year later: “Exclusive game is coming to PC”.
I'm really quite baffled as to why some people are getting rather eggy over this. Proper tantrum stuff. Strange.
Gotta love internet meltdowns.
@naruball people are acting like uncharted and horizon zero dawn are coming to the pc
@shepherd_tallon Which conveniently a PS4 release hasn't been announced. And at the time I was thinking "yet another reason not to buy an xbox" because that's what happens when you put your best games on other platforms. For people like me who prefer to only play on PlayStation today's news is worth getting concerned about cos when games come out that say "Only on PlayStation" the least Sony can do is bloody stick to it rather rewarding those that have no interest in buying a PS4.
It's not so much Detroit it's more about what comes next, I rather people voice their concerns now before Sony decide on releasing others. If you think this bad, it'll be nothing if games like Spider-Man went on PC.
@JAMes-BroWWWn Quantic dream is self publishing it, not sony.
@Steel76 Lol more likely stupid kids can't handle other platform gamers enjoy Sony exclusives.
@ILoveVideoGames Cleary missing the point, without exclusives, consoles are pointless, they give people an incentive to invest in the platform.
This is not looking good for sony, up until now i had confidence in them but if they are going this way for future games i want no part of it, ill just move to pc for their games just like xbox.
Its bad enough console players pay for online while pc gets it free. Sony better watch it, it could be the death of them next gen if they keep going this way.
@PS_Nation i am looking at my copy of nioh on ps4 right now (NA version) and nowhere does it say "only on playstation". do you have a copy that says otherwise? you cannot go by images on google since there are many fan-made images floating around. that said, it is still a "console exclusive" as it is not available on any other console...
@AdamNovice Agreed but I doubt Sony will. I don't think putting Detroit on PC damages PlayStation in the slightest.
@Shepherd_Tallon ps now is already on pc most people are not aware of this... that said, not every ps4 exclusive is available on ps now as that would eat into sony's bottom line... maybe once ps5 releases will sony add the entire ps4 catalogue to the service.
@Shepherd_Tallon i agree people are a bit hysteric over a 2nd party game hitting pc. and even should 1st party games release on pc at some point, it does not change the fact that i will forever game on a dedicated console separate from my work pc (there are far to many benefits to list here). #consolegamerforlife
@Porco @Shepherd_Tallon Also i thought people Hated David Cage And His games
So much doomsaying here.
I don't like Quantic Dream, so I wouldn't care regardless, but why be upset about it going to PC? I thought the PC market was it's own thing, and it's not as common to have a PC compared to a console. Add in the amount of PS4 users, and it doesn't seem like a major loss. It's still technically a console exclusive (as in, it's the only console you can get it if you don't have a PC).
Even then, so what? What matters is being able to play it, if you ask me.
Not as common to own a pc, wtf lol Why do you think microsoft is going to pc, because the install base is way bigger than consoles.
Detroit not a system seller? Sure it was.
PlayStation have lost the plot. No communication, no E3, less games on psplus and now throwing relatively new full exclusive games onto PC.
Can't wait for next week's news that they are going full fat GaaS with TLOU2 and purposely bricking consoles for the craic.
What on earth!? Just made an account then to comment for the first time on this site. The whole point of a console to me is that I can play games I can’t buy anywhere else. That’s why I bought a PS4 and that’s why I bought a Switch. Scratching my head big time with this. I really hope this isn’t a trend Sony continues...or I won’t be interested in a future console from them.
If you don’t understand the importance of exclusives, then you’re hopeless. Without exclusives, there are no sales. Without sales, the install base is irrelevant and developers will skip an irrelevant platform.
Seriously that something so obvious needs to be explained?
@David187 He deffinitely isn't as he has already proven many times. All the bad things are happening under his chairmanship, I truly miss Jack Tretton and Kaz Hirai.
@get2sammyb Not so logical to damage your own brand. You will never see anything owned by Nintendo on pc officially.
@Porco Only Asian version had that exclusive mark.
Wow what a stupid move from Sony.
I'm betting the PC version will run at 4K60fps with HDR and a bunch of other stuff so now the PS4 version of these games will be known as the gimped downgraded crappy subpar versions of the games and the PC versions will be the true definite.
I'm guessing Bloodborne would be next? great! so next by copy can become subpar garbage. I can see the advertisements now " If you want to experience PS exclusives in their true final form buy on Epic store!"
I am really disappointed with Sony. First of all, the PS4 Pro is not powerful enough to handle 4K or 60fps.
Now they move the exclusive game to the fu****g PC.
@Adam47
MS and Sony really want everyone to migrate to the PC, If Sony keeps putting their exclusives there than I will have no choice but to move to the PC and play Sony exclusives in their definitive forms.
Then I could go ahead and turn the PS4 Pro into a bird feeder, If this happens to Bloodborne and/or Spider-man then we will know the route Sony will be taking.
I was going to pick Detroit up, but I'll wait for the Steam release instead then.
Really not a great time to make a deal like that with a lot of hate towards Epic for stealing various games that were promised for Steam and GOG. Spying on user's Steam files is even worse. It won't be long until they have to face some consequences.
@PS_Nation You're being very intense about this, and half the comments are yours.
Exclusivities mean nothing today. They get released a few months/a year later on other platforms more and more often.
If they don't perform well enough, it would be stupid for the developer not to try his luck on other platforms.
Also it is not a system seller. I doubt anybody will buy a PS4 because of that game. I bought it because I already had a PS4 and it was cheap.
So take a deeeeeeeep breath and relax. HZD, Uncharted and God of War, the last of us, and many more aren't going anywhere.
@Juanalf You can argue that Microsoft at least has some interest with supporting pc as a platform, since they are the producer of the most popular pc OS in the world and other utility software like Office. Sony on the other hand doesn't have anything like those.
Not surprised really. Especially QD decided to go multiplat recently. But that Sony still publishing it really intrigued me, is this the first time it’s happening with Sony?
Edit: never mind, they published Helldivers, Everybody’s Gone to the Rapture and Guns Up! for PC under PlayStation Mobile, Inc. But I’m curious, what makes them releasing their titles to PC?
@Gamer4Lyfe You sound like Sony just releasing all their exclsuives on PC. Its just second party and third party exclsuives sometimes and Quantic dream games because they don't sell as good as Uncharted, God of War and Spider-man. If any of the popular first party exclusive was coming to PC, I would be worried too.
@Gamer4Lyfe So I ask how many PC owners play games? PCs are just computers. Literally anyone can have one for any reason. Gaming consoles however are generally used for just that. There's also all the work and upkeep needed for the optimization of the games, which a lot of people aren't willing to do.
Maybe I'm just not a loyalist or whatever. I know exclusives are important, I just don't care as long as I'm able to play it. I'm not gonna lose sleep over Sony losing money when they have plenty of other exclusives and I still have something to play them on. If I want Detroit, I have a PS4, so I can just get it.
That's good. Exclusives are unfair to the developers, any decent game deserves to reach as wide an audience as possible, that's my opinion on this matter.
I didn't really buy a PS4 for the exclusives, I bought it to escape some of the hassles that come with PC gaming as it concerns triple-A games. That said, I do know many people buy consoles for the exclusives, in the same way many PC gamers will pick a PC over a console, because of its exclusives. Exclusives are system sellers.
Most exclusives getting released on other systems, whether console to PC or PC to console, are released after they have reached a maximum on the initial platform, when they are not really selling much anymore.
@Juanalf I can see now games like Spider-Man, Ratchet & Clank, Bloodborne, Until Dawn and Days Gone coming soon on Epic Store. Sony really wants to kill PlayStation.
@PS_Nation The majority of people who bought the PS4 are casuals, they don't care or know anything about the PC. So calm down console boy, if Sony brings their titles to PC it doesn't mean they'll lose sales(on consoles and games) or will those said titles lose their quality and value.
Or do you only care about these games cause they're "EXCLUSIVE"?
@MsJubilee Oh look, another usual suspect. Console boy? How dare someone buy a product and expect to have exclusives for it? How dare someone thinking about the install base, so you can receive more and more games from developers. I checked your profile and you have more than one device, why do you buy all of them if you don’t care about exclusives at all? The hipocrisy is hilarious on this one.
@PS_Nation "How dare someone buy a product and expect to have exclusives for it" First of all,no one is forcing you to buy a stupid console, another thing a Playstation console will not lose any value if it's exclusives come to another platform, it would be just an option to buy it somewhere else.
You are acting if they release anything on PC that PlayStation is dead and it's all over. No it's not playboy, the PlayStation is one of most popular gaming brands out there, it will take a lot of effort to kill it off, Sony releasing their exclusives on PC will not be it.
"How dare someone thinking about the install base, so you can receive more and more games from developers" Yet Xbox is still getting games left and right.
"I checked your profile and you have more than one device, why do you buy all of them if you don’t care about exclusives at all?"
I don't care about exclusives, if all these "EXCLUSIVES" came to PC or on all platforms, i won't need to buy these console. I can just buy an "EXCLUSIVE" on my favorite platform and be done with it.
@PS_Nation "Sheesh, also defending underage characters being sexualized in the comments here. Not cool at all." No sir, i was not defending these loli's, i was angry about Sony censoring, i'm against censorship.
@PS_Nation You need to calm down about this. Seriously. I highly doubt Sony would go the Microsoft route fully and have every exclusive for PC.
Look at it this way: Sony have a thing for recognizing their competitor's weaknesses and taking advantage of it. I'm sure you saw the PS4 reveal and maybe even heard the story of them going with discs instead of cartridges. I'm sure they look at Microsoft and see what to do and what not to do, like any other multi million dollar business.
Have some faith, man. A few decent games suddenly not being exclusive isn't the death of a gaming brand.
@MsJubilee Don’t need to quote me just to make your comment bigger than your argument. And thanks for proving my point in the end. You bought more than one device because of exclusives and still trying to argue, lol.
@PS_Nation "Sony really wants to kill PlayStation."
No exaggeration detected whatsoever.
@DerMeister I’m calm, just trying to argue in good faith how it’s bad for Sony and theirs fans to release games on another platform. Of course if Sony still want to do that, I will move on and go to another platform.
I hope you’re right that’s just a special case and the Sony games will still be exclusive.
@naruball Well, if they keep releasing their games on another platform, yes.
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