EA Sports has commented on a social media campaign which trended earlier this week, as fans registered their dissatisfaction with Madden NFL 21’s improvements to the popular Franchise mode. Earlier this week, the publisher released a blog post outlining the additions and improvements it’s making to the upcoming American football simulation’s Franchise and Face of the Franchise mode.
Unfortunately, the changes being made to Franchise are minimal, with the addition of new X-Factor abilities and an expanded Wild Card playoff round. Honestly, it reads like patch notes rather than the release of a brand-new game. Fans feel that the publisher has been prioritising Madden Ultimate Team over other key areas of the title, as the card collecting mode is a much bigger money spinner for the firm.
As an attempt to pacify its community, executive producer Sean Graddy recorded a video message addressing the concerns, noting that the company’s listening to feedback and will be share more information on its plans for Franchise moving forwards. It’s quite a hollow statement which will do little to quell the criticism, but it’s at least admission that the publisher has heard the community’s concerns.
Of course, whether it actually acts on the feedback will remain to be seen. Franchise has remained relatively static for much of the generation, so it’ll be interesting to see whether the publisher makes a concerted effort to improve this part of the release as we head into the PlayStation 5 generation and beyond.
[source ea.com]
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I assume the same will happen with the equally bad NHL and FIFA franchises that haven’t evolved for the last 8 years
It's the fans fault. Do what u did with this franchise years ago and stop buying it. It's as easy as that.
It seems like Madden has reached it's limit of enchantments.
An idea, Madden should have a digital base game that gets updated yearly with new rosters and some random things, users pay yearly fee to be able to play it.
They can still milk people with MUT, new cards each year, but you can combined your yearly collection!
@eltomo Ahh but then they would make less money!
@eltomo That wouldnt work because the same sheep complaining about this are the same ones that buy this every year. EA knows this.
What’s to fix about the game? What enhancements do they want in a sports sim? I’ve not played Madden since 2012 but the game attempts to emulate real life so what should they add? People don’t even know the answer to this. They just have fond memories of NFL 2K5; a game that had its fair share of bugs. I’d love to see 2K return it for nothing more but to quell the nonsense we have to put up with every year from Madden whiners who still purchase the game.
When I worked at GameStop, I knew all of my regulars that I could expect for major releases. But when Madden dropped, I wouldn't recognize a single one of them picking it up. I would try to pitch reserves to them or pack in something else. I had one guy ask if he could reserve the NEXT Madden on the release day off the current one.
The fan base of Madden buys whatever EA puts out, because they don't care about anything else. The aren't "gamers"*, they play Madden. The ones asking for change are in the minority.
*Not gatekeeping, just using the term loosely.
Youtubers and streamers that only play MUT make EA a ton of money every year when they buy thousands of dollars worth of cards every few weeks. Why would EA put a ton of effort into Madden when there's people like this?
@Ken_Kaniff I pretty much buy one Madden game every generation so each game I get is usually pretty fresh, but I gotta agree with the fans on this one, Madden 18 on PS4 is barely different from Madden 13 on PS3 aside from the visuals.
Huge football fan and gamer here. I can't tell you how long it's been since I've bought a Madden game. Over 10 years I know that.
@PorkYoself you’re absolutely correct. My ex-brother-in-law and his group of friends only buy sports games and they get Madden, NHL, and FIFA every year. I think that’s fine if that’s what you like.
You’re also correct that them grumbles are in the minority. And the sports franchises (FIFA, Madden, MLB: The Show) barely change ever year because they’re based in real life. I don’t think there’s much they can do as far as gameplay seeing as how they try to emulate what real life looks like.
@KisekiFan7 Oh I side with the fans as well. That's why I stopped buying Madden about five years ago, but truth is alot of these people complaining will still buy the game. That's why EA never does much to change it.
70 bucks please.
@AhmadSumadi I have been playing the NHL series for a while and there is definitely room for improvement. Most people aren't complaining about the simulation as much as they are complaining about the features and gameplay modes.
Franchise mode used to be the marquee game mode, where you can shape the team how you want. They gave you control over so many game systems. But over time the focus shifted to Be A Pro. Shortly after that it focused to Ultimate Team. EA has neutered the other game modes for one reason or another.
@AhmadSumadi hey I can answer this one for you buddy, they've taken virtually everything out of franchise mode, go on YouTube and look it up its a 50 point list of things no longer in the game that were in it in 2012.
Yea I'm skipping FIFA this year I know this is a madden post, but seriously I only played FIFA for the career mode and they have added nothing new in ages, some small additions would be good, I like playing with lower league teams and getting them to the top division, but your stuck with same stadium, the money you get for transfers is awful, would like to be able to invest in new stadiums and training grounds, and the money for transfers reflected in what you achieve, just small things would make it so good, I remember back in the PS2 days I'm sure you were able to modify your stadium so why we can't do it now is beyond me. Don't think I'm buying FIFA again for a few years until proper changed are made, and I'm sure the same kind of things are true for madden and NHL, but agree most of my m8s they just play cod and FIFA and that's it so really ppl like me they ain't gonna miss sad but true
I haven't played Madden in years due to EA. However can summarise my thoughts on ultimate team in football / soccer.
Ultimate team has wrecked lifelike viable simulations. The dream of championship manager 02/03 with fair and stable on field gameplay of PES 6 is long gone. Replaced by a card trading blag and a laggy horrible version of fifa Street.
The franchise mode in Madden, heck the entire series, has been stagnant for over a decade and people are just getting upset now? Better late than never but EA isn't going to change and all the complainers are still going to rush and buy the game day one.
If Madden hasn’t really changed in years then the NHL series is much worse off. I stopped playing years ago when Be a Pro became popular and franchise suffered. Madden and FIFA are EA’s Crown Jewels. If these games aren’t changing compared to their older versions then EA isn’t giving a ***** about NHL. EA used to be the leader in sports. They had Madden, FIFA, NHL, College football, NBA Live, Boxing, Golf, and etc. But now it’s just Madden and FIFA making EA their money. Look at FIFA, at the beginning of the year EA had 53% of the sales from FIFA come from the Ultimate packs. Meaning the packs were outselling the game they were in. Lol. Madden is just as bad. Did the NHL series even move to the frostbite engine? I know Madden did with the whole story part of Madden that was introduced. EA lost to NBA2k. Tried taking on MLB the Show and failed. This is why I want a 2k hockey game or someone making a big NHL type game. Same for football. 2k keep EA on their toes. NHL was losing to the 2k series until they added the stick control. 2kNHL never recovered. This is a perfect example of bending the only sports dev for football and soccer that matter. It’s like the South Park episode with informative murder porn, EA people are rubbing their nipples saying "oh I’m sorry, why don’t you try another football game." When there is none. Lol.
@Arugula I don't disagree that people tend to nitpick, but I don't think that applies to this case. Your talking about a game that comes out every year and the franchise mode just keeps regressing as they prioritize modes with microtransactions. EA is a business and they are in the business of making money, just don't expect fans of the mode to ignore the money grab. On top of that they monopolized NFL games giving gamers no choice.
Here's a hot take.
I'm glad this portion of gamers are being taken for a ride, so long as the core games that EA makes aren't infected by this BS. If they continue to milk their little cash cow from all their little pay pigs then that's fine by me, so long as we get games like Jedi Fallen Order and Rouge Squadron!
These people have a choice when they buy these games every year, and I have no sympathy. Play the older games, and quit buying these casinos.
@Constable_What People like you are just as big a problem, with the at least it's not affecting the games I like mentality. Because trust me, it'll bite you on the rear someday when the games you like are also affected and gamers like yourself simply watched and laughed while more casual gamers got rear bumped by the company.
I wish people actually stayed committed to this goal. NBA 2K has been hot garbage for a solid 5 or so years
@NomNom I thoroughly disagree. Not that it's amazing, but NBA 2K is still a solid 7.
@KisekiFan7 I'm referring to the excessive microtransactions and overall scummy business transactions. The game looks fantastic, and plays solid otherwise. People complain about their borderline gambling purchaseable crates but no one is willing to boycott the game for change.
The fact that every sports game from EA has essentially become the 'Ultimate (insert sport related name) Team' franchise tells me all i need to know they aint getting my money.
Did the whiners not see the entire stadium reflected in a player’s helmet? What more does a football game need?
@AhmadSumadi Well, for starters it is not. D3 College WRs do not drop as many passes as Davante Adams has in 3 games, the overtime rules are not right. They are the same ones from your 2012 copy which is not accurate to real life. LBs pick more passes than any DB. I could go on but lack of authenticity in the game, but those mentioned are simple glaring ones. I don't care about EA Sports Radio or halftime shows or signing assistants whatever, I just want game to game to be like a NFL game. Also, they have used the same player models, lighting, and animations since 2012.
@Shinobi1Kenoby Remember when RA canceled Madden '96 on the PS1 when NFL Gameday was coming on strong. They do not want competition which is why Madden has suffered over the past few years because they just rehash the same old gameplay with a few micro trinkets thrown in.
@gstc615 I recovered a fumble and the whistle blew and I thought in the NFL you can advance a fumble when you scoop the ball up so EA has been dropping the ball for a long time.
@Weebleman That's the reason I miss the 2K NFL games because competition means you have to work to make a great game or lose customers and that was taken when EA secured the licensing rights.
@NomNom I hate the microtransactions personally. I miss the days before consoles were connected to the internet when you bought a game and just played and had fun without updates and transactions etc.
@Face76 "They had Madden, FIFA, NHL, College football, NBA Live, Boxing, Golf, and etc"
I loved the Triple Play/MVP baseball series they had.
@Gamer83 I agree with you but they'll change if sales fall off. I've been a Madden fan since the SNES days but I have to say the last 3 versions of the game left me disappointed. As it stands right now, I am not buying Madden 21.
@Ken_Kaniff It is but for those of us who love video football games, there is no alternative and EA knows that.
I’ve never bought a Madden game in any generation, but I do like American Football. Perhaps I could be swayed to play if there was compelling improvements.
Plus I’m intrigued by the thought that Madden is technically a turn-based RPG, if you really think about it. There’s not enough good Western turn-based RPGs. 😄
@AhmadSumadi Me and my friends do that as well and we form online leagues etc because we know no one is going to quit etc.
@KisekiFan7 People like me actually stop buying their crap when they pull this in core games (Mass Effect Andromeda, Star Wars Battlefront 2, Battlefield V). It doesn't matter to me if you think I'm a problem; people like you see problems but do nothing about them anyway (unless dealing with problems involves giving problems more and more money, and to that I say "Oh yes! I'm a big big problem!) so why should I worry?
If people like you quit buying their garbage, then people like me wouldn't have to occasionally see garbage in the franchises they like.
Luckily for me, people like me have willpower and low tolerance for BS.
Luckily for you, it seems quite a few governments might step in to save people like you (because of people like me too! You're welcome.).
Madden fans can share all the hashtags, write all the petitions, and complain ALL THEY WANT. EA cares bout exactly one thing: money. As long as the same people complaining about the game keep mindlessly buying the game, absolutely nothing will change. guess what? Madden 22 is going to be the same way. and guess what? it'll sell a ton, because Madden fans seem to think they HAVE to buy it. Only when sales numbers start to decline will EA actually give a crap what the gamers say. I always smile, because i was an NFL 2K fan, and i still remember the idiot Madden fans celebrating when they bought off the NFL. Congrats, winners!
@Far_Cide yep utter utter garbage. I would love 2K games and/or Sega Sports to start doing NFL/NHL/NBA again. The Sega sports range on Saturn was actually really really good. I loved NHL Allstar Hockey and World Series Baseball, incredible sports sims.
@Constable_What It's not like I buy yearly, just once a generation. If everyone did that they'd have to change their practices...
@KisekiFan7 I also never buy new so there goes your theory that I'm supporting them. Eventually your insulting behaviour will earn you a banhammer of justice.
@NomNom I do. Like I said before I only buy one game in the series every generation and it's always a second-hand copy so the developer and publisher makes absolutely nothing off my purchase.
@Far_Cide I love football games as well, but I refused to keep buying the same game every year. Theres way to many other good games out there that deserve my time and money. EA will never hear our cries about the Madden franchise unless people stop buying it.
@KisekiFan7 Then you're obviously not who I'm talking about. Why even reply to my comment to begin with if it doesn't concern you?
People like you man, I swear. lol
I didn't insult you once (or at least didn't use anything you didn't already have down.). If you took any offense from what I said, then I'm very sorry you feel that way.
@Far_Cide
Yeah, last Madden game I got was 15. The gameplay isn't actually terrible but there's just a lot of little things about the series since the end of the PS2 days that bother me. The franchise mode has taken steps back it seems like in every iteration since 06.
Used to play a lot of Madden and NCAA Football on the PS2 generation. Since then I've tried to get back into it but I think it's past me by. I love Football but it's a lot of time to devote to one game and my backlog is huge. Maybe if NCAA comes back? If NFL 2K came back?
Sadly this is the only official NFL game so fans have no choice. Either you buy Madden or you don't play football. Or you can play an older better version or NFL 2K.
It will never changed because EA won't they them if the UK government band LBs then it will have to be pulled out of every sports game they produce and that will cause mill/billions in loses and I hope it does. But they will find a way to get around it go back 15 years ago and you'd never even think a FIFA game would or could be slapped with PEGI 18 rating but EA did that and when it does someone needs to leave an award there HQ door step for that achievement. For been greedy and screwing themselves in the foot for a franchise that's massive in Europe I hope then FIFA realise this and they lose the license to someone who wants to make a sports game about playing the game and earning stuff for playing
Remember when they said they couldn't put in every teams helmets because there excuse was memory constraints that's how stupid they think gamers are.
@Deadlyblack Yeah and people watching those YTers give them money to buy cards live when they could buy themselves the pack ??
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