Sony’s not telling us a huge amount about the PlayStation 5 at the present, so leave it to intrepid code junkies to extract the information out of the platform holder. New code uncovered on the web-based version of the PlayStation Store teases some of the tantalising new features we can expect to find on the next-gen console come launch.
First and foremost, it looks like wishlists will finally be integrated into the console, as there’s a line of code that states: “Your wishlist isn't available on this website. You can find it on a PS5.” In addition, it looks like you’ll be able to create Parties with up to 100 people, and share music playlists with pals. There’s also reference to something called a ‘Takedown’, but we’re not sure what this entails yet.
Elsewhere, it looks like backwards compatible titles that support PS5’s boost mode feature will be marked as such, while there’ll be a warning for the one per cent of PS4 games that aren’t playable on the next-gen console. Interestingly, there’s also reference to a page on the official PlayStation website fully detailing backwards compatibility, but it’s currently offline.
[source reddit.com, via resetera.com]
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Sony should really be telling us this stuff faster than code junkies can find it. This is embarrassing for all the wrong reasons
@Jaz007 Not everything has to be turned into a dig at Sony, you know. Chill.
Sony's lack of communication is a bloody joke and the fact that most publications and websites don't demand more info like pushsquare when pre-orders have started is a shame and an embarrassment. Just shows the medias bias towards sony covering up for their faults while shinning light on Microsoft's all the time.
Wait wishlists are only JUST being added?
Well, if this is being found, I imagine the information will be detailed and made public soon. Maybe this week? Hopefully. Admittedly, the silence from Sony has been exhausting, but considering engagement numbers they get on social media any time they release even a drop of info, I don't think we're really doing a great job of telling them not to 😂😂 regardless, all of these features sound very cool and welcome, so I'm excited to finally see everything in action.
@HotGoomba It's a weird one. They've been on the web version of the PS Store for years, but they never actually added them to the PS4 for some reason.
Also, I agree with @LiamCroft. It's been a frustrating few weeks but we got some pretty good updates today so let's see what the coming weeks bring.
Wow Sony, code junkies are doing a better job than you are. How sad.
hopefully sony can start doing what steam does; email when theres a sale on games in the wishlist
Hooray for website source code, a simple yet effective way of gleaning information from the most unsociable of companies.
A "takedown" is when Sony sends a UFC fighter to your house to punish you for using aimbots.
43 days Sony! Do something xD
@ralphdibny
And it looks like your primary ps4 have to move to the ps5 if you want to play offline. On it. And rename it to main ps5
@LiamCroft I disagree respectfully. Sony could've been talking about a lot of things and showcasing the console proper while letting the games speak for themselves. The fact that we're 6 weeks away from the console launching and we still don't know anything in regards to how the UI will function or PS Store enhancements, or even a physical demonstration of backwards compatibility with PS4 games, all things that Microsoft has detailed in some form or another with their console at this point, is just adding to the lack of communication Sony is having with their consumer base, and people are rightfully pissed off.
@HotGoomba On console. You could wishlist games from the web or PS App versions of the PlayStation Store but never on the consoles themselves. I know, it's pretty baffling to say the least given the other two console makers have been doing this for ages.
@ralphdibny HAHAHAHA
I hope it still plays games. That's all I want it for.
@TheFrenchiestFry Yes, we know people are becoming frustrated. That still doesn't mean every comments section should turn into a slagging match aimed at Sony and Jim Ryan though. As I said, chill out. The information will come and then this period will be forgotten about.
Why not discuss the features that have been discovered rather than criticising Jim Ryan for not being the exact one to say it?
@TheFrenchiestFry weeks?
@theMEGAniggle yeah. We're 6 weeks away from the initial launch in US, Canada, Japan and the UK
@theMEGAniggle It’s definitely weeks. 6 weeks is less than 2 months, therefore it’s not months. Hence, it’s weeks.
@TheFrenchiestFry @nessisonett weeks it is
Blowout soon from sony, that last part of the puzzle then onward to release date, I sure hope so.
@nessisonett oh my GAWD, taker just broke mankind in HALF!
@LiamCroft
I agree. Criticism has it's place in some articles comments sections but certainly not EVERY article that relates to Sony. Non-stop bashing has driven me away from other sites in the past...
Anyways here's hoping we get a full blown preview next week similar to what the XSX got this week.
@KathyQ It's not really that people are whining and are about to cancel their pre-orders on the spot, it's more of an annoyance about Sony's lack of transparency, especially when Microsoft has already more than detailed pretty much everything about their consoles. Even as a Sony fanboy myself I have to take a step back and notice that there is work to be done in trying to relay information without it being leaked through stuff like this.
@KathyQ In other words when it comes to Sony you shut your brain off, don't question anything and don't want anyone else questioning either. Even if they are making bad anti consumer moves by the fact that is them doing it is fine.
Is one thing to love a company but to get mad that other people are voicing their frustrations with questionable decisions by the higher ups is beyond ridiculous.
I'm still wondering how primary ps5 works and if vindictive penny pinching new Sony is going to try to block "game sharing". With 2 ps owners in the house and new high prices, that's going to become an even more valuable and important "feature".
6 long weeks to go!!
@NEStalgia game sharing will work exactly as it does now with 2 ps4s
@redd214 that's my expectation and hope (and plan!). But current Sony does make me wonder if they'll try to close that "loophole"
@NEStalgia it's not a loophole, it literally says it on the preorder pages
@johnny30 ooh yes, that would be amazing.
@LiamCroft You may not like hearing it but I’ll never forget this as the worst buildup to a new main stream system release I’ve experienced and I’ve been gaming since the 80s.
I hope this leads us closer to being able to gift games to friends.
@TheFrenchiestFry we havent seen the most important thing from microsoft yet and that is next gen games playing on the console. 6 weeks away from release and nothing. What are your thoughts on sony leading that race?
@NEStalgia im with you on this one. Im planning on passing my pro down to go in my kids room. It will be a pain if i cant leave it active as my primary ps4.
@God_of_Nowt xbox series x? Proper next gen games that aren't out yet?
Sony, please pull your finger out, some people have aid for this thing in full. Pathetic.Hopefully it's a very fast UI, the current PS4 UI is a sloppy slothy mess.
@Loftimus Sony is winning on that front, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're doing everything right. They didn't strike a good balance at all between showing the console and the games so far.
@redd214 lol, it does?? I haven't seen that, but if so that's a big relief .
@KathyQ
I couldn't agree more. Sony has hit the ball out of the park with each generation, and while there have been missteps here or there, they have always pulled through and made an amazing product with amazing games. I would like to hear more information from them, just to help satiate me until release; but I don't need information.
@Juanalf
Not at all. If a company has built up trust with you over and over again for decades, its easy to put trust in them yet again without needing to have every little detail spelled out. What constitutes a breach of that trust depends entirely on the person; but there is nothing wrong with extrapolating from past data.
@TheFrenchiestFry I'm guessing they don't want to openly say their's bc is not as good as Microsoft's
@HotGoomba after so many years, decades even 🙄🙄🙄
@SilentScorpion_ They have sold out of all this year's allocation within minutes. They don't have to say anything, the more they make people wait, the more anticipation they build.
I've had all previous PlayStation consoles on or before the launch date. I literally took my original PS1 off the back of a lorry as it was being delivered to the store a couple of days before release.
I will miss this launch unfortunately. I was queueing online for ages and just as it was my turn to confirm my pre-order, the website crashed losing my details.
I quickly got on to a different stores website but was 51,000th in the queue.
I’ll find out when I turn it on.
@DualWielding I mean we already knew it wouldn't be
Xbox Series X is backwards compatible with literally every preceding Xbox console, while PS5 only extends to PS4 backwards compatibility. Doesn't really give them an out for not showing it physically demonstrated at the very least
@OmegaStriver What was the last console that launched during a pandemic?
I’ve been critical too, but there was loads of news today, and plenty more to come I’m sure.
If things go quiet again, then I’ll be the first to call them out. Quite a lot of things got detailed today, however.
@LiamCroft You lot have literally been making articles criticising Sony for clicks, how about you chill too then mate? 😂
The boost made makes it sound like most PS4 games will run exactly as they do on PS4 with only a few taking advantage of the extra power of PS5
I really hope they add gifting as an option.
Hope Sony doesn't screw up like PS3 days.
https://youtu.be/TNpwz3E-_-4
There is a hands on event happening in Japan right now, streamers are on a press embargo untill the 4th of october, expect alot to be revealed then
43 days until release. Still don't know enough about the console to pre-order. I would like to think that they don't want to build up too much hype as they don't want a lot of angry people who can't pre-order and then the week before release they detail everything the console can do including play Vita games. I'm trying to find a positive from the lack of information.
@johnny30 While an official solution from Sony would be nice, there is a great website for this feature called PSPrices. It allows you to build wishlists for all major consoles and then add watches to individual games. You can even set a price level that must be reached for it to send an email to you. It also has graphs tracking price over time for each game.
@TheFrenchiestFry
To be fair, yes, MS have released more info on HOW their features work. and what their UI looks like. But not mentioned more features than Sony.
Sony have actually shown us games running natively on the console.
I know which way I prefer.
@Enigk
Can I ask what info you need that makes the difference between buying and not buying? Surely only the games really matter that much, and we’ve had plenty of showcases for that.
@SilentScorpion_ Sorry what? Sony gets more flack then anyone lately. 😆
@SilentScorpion_ Anti Microsoft? They have been lauding them for the last week all because they bought Bethesda. Basically no launch games for series X. Same preoder problems. MS has been skating.
@thefourfoldroot The benefits of backwards compatibility. None of the launch games are pulling me in. Just finished Spiderman on PS4 a few months ago so need a break from that and not a big Souls fan so not much for me on Day 1. If they advertised what it does for PS4 games I would be more inclined to take the leap. All we know is that it plays them. They didn’t even make a song and dance about improvements when they mentioned the PS Plus Collection!
Wow all the whinging and moaning about this n that, i remember when the ps2 was coming out and we bsrely knew anything about it other than GTA3 looked amazing and it was a day one purchase.
See if you have enjoyed having a ps1,2,3 or 4 then whats the big deal about what features the 5 is going to have? You either want it or you don't.
@Enigk
I think you answered your own question. It plays them. Yes, there is a Boost mode, but that will likely just do the minimum of allowing games to hit their frame rate caps, or improving FPS in games that are uncapped, and improving resolution in games with dynamic res. If you expect Sony to have the same kind of software ability as MS when it comes to BC you’ll be disappointed I think.
Console launch during pandemic is not an excuse for lack of communication and lack of information about what exactly they are launching.
Speaking about wishlists, the wishlist on the web PS Store has always been "just for the record". For instance, when you buy a game which is present on your wishlist, it does not get removed from the wishlist. Such feature has been present on Steam right from the start.
@Deadcow
Really? Everything I saw in their reveals was run on PC, like with Halo Infinite. I’ve seen some screenshots supposedly on Series X but I must have missed some videos somewhere. I’ll have another check.
And yeah, not having a wishlist on the PS4 is weird I guess. I’ve never noticed as I always browse the store on the app and use the wish list there. It means I can buy and start downloading while I’m at work to play when I’m home and so is just much more convenient.
Amazed they don’t have a gifting feature though. I’m sure it would be the fastest thing to bring them more sales.
I think all these niggles are because they didn’t know what they were doing when designing PSN, it seems a rushed reaction to MS to this day and needs complete gutting I think. The local multiplayer issues are still prevalent in many games, not to mention the trophy difficulties there.
Knowing which PS4 games won't work on the new console would be really useful for everyone planning to trade in their PS4 for the PS5...
@get2sammyb Oh no, today was a good day. I’m saying the experience overall has been underwhelming.
There are many things they could have spoken on, many previews of games could have been covered in written articles. Everything doesn’t have to be a video or presentation and here we are still waiting on a thorough breakdown of Destruction All Stars they could have been covered in a written preview article. I guess I’m stuck in the 90s-00s.
Today was a good day though, or now, for me, yesterday.
@LiamCroft l agree, however l wish l did know more about the console that I've already paid in full for! 🤔 ....but that's just impatient excitement! 😆 l think it's because I'm used to the big e3 console reveal which we haven't got this year, instead it's been small slices of info given with huge gaps in between... not enough to satisfy my curiosity! 😬
More whinging, I'm shocked.
Look I don't want to sound like scare mongering here but unless a certain company get their finger out this launch might not be as smoothly as another rival. And just to clarify i am talking about online infrastructure and with the big holiday season round the corner we could see some network down activity!
Has anyone ever wanted or needed a party with up to 100 people?
Genuine question.
At some point, it just becomes noise, surely?
@Coltaine22 Tbf the PS5 launch lineup isn't really that much better
It's Spider-Man (which is also on PS4), Demon's Souls, a pack in game, LBP spinoff (which is also on PS4) and a lot of multiplatform games
It's better than no new exclusives for Xbox, but it's not that much better
@thefourfoldroot And some of those games have also been underhanded because they're either also going to be on PC in the cases of Deathloop, Godfall, Final Fantasy XVI (which also wasn't shown running on PS5), GhostWire Tokyo and Project Athia, are timed exclusives that will eventually go multiplatform like those first three, or are first party games that will also be on PS4. I'm pretty sure God of War Ragnarok and Demon's Souls are so far, the only first party games that are actually PS5 exclusives and not cross gen or timed and available on PC.
Sony's strategy really isn't that different from Microsoft at least for now. Yes, I prefer pretty much every game I've seen for the PS5 lineup to the Xbox games, but actually looking more closely at the lineup there's a lot of cross gen and multiplats that might not necessarily compel everyone to jump into next gen that quickly.
When preorders came up I knew a lot more about the new x box than the ps5 so I bought one of those as I'm not buying a console without knowing anything about it. But I'm keeping my ps4 Pro. From the news its a good job I did as looks like even if I had preorders a 5 I might not have got it until next year!
@TheFrenchiestFry
Why should I care if those games are on a system I don’t own? Doesn’t effect me if games are on PC. Only a good thing if it bring more profits and so higher investment.
The only point I’m making is that those games (baring FFVI) were shown running natively on PS5, so I’m way happier with that than a company that would show everything running on PC, or just CGI, but talk endlessly about subscription services and BC like MS do
@thefourfoldroot I think a factor in that is due to the fact that until recently Microsoft didn't have nearly the amount of first party studios that were backing their first party portfolio, so they don't necessarily have that much immediately at launch or even during launch window, so they're practically stuck with multiplats, and whether they choose to show gameplay on that front is entirely up to those developers, but the subscription services are ultimately a win-win situation for them and you're kind of underestimating that
Sony and Nintendo basically need to sell hardware to make a profit, but Microsoft's strategy is basically leveraging all of the hardware and software services they own and integrating them into the Xbox ecosystem so no matter which platform you're on, you're still giving them money regardless, so it'll make much more profit for them than just a single hardware platform and its software. I expect Microsoft and Sony to be much more neck and neck in this race than a lot of people are suspecting. Especially given now they can flaunt Bethesda games as a reason you should own any of their gaming platforms. The Xbox Series X sold out in Japan when pre-orders went live, when that was practically unheard of during the previous generations.
Also backwards compatibility is absolutely important. Game preservation is basically an essential now that gaming is moving closer to a potentially all digital future despite the existence of hardware, as older hardware gets phased out and their respective games rise up in price.
@TheFrenchiestFry
I’m confused about why you typed all that. I don’t care about console wars, who wins, how they make money etc. I just chose PS5 as I know I’ll like games like R&C, GT7, etc, and because I want a boost to my PSVR. I don’t care about other stuff.
Subscription services I don’t have time for because I can only play an hour or two a day max (plus, playing devils advocate for the moment, they weaken the value of included games meaning less investment in them); preserving games until after I’m dead I don’t care about (great for future generations, but I can play everything as I go and nothing is available from before I was a serious gamer).
So, yeah, just show me new games running on the new console and I’ll buy it if I think said games look good. That’s all I need.
Doesn't sound like features you would need to announce.
@thefourfoldroot You also said you thought that Microsoft talking about subscription services and backwards compatibility was detrimental to them when that's literally part of the reason people are investing in Xbox consoles right now. I was dispelling that.
Sony is killing it with the games, but they could be doing so many other things better in regards to actually showing the console, because that's what they're selling.
@TheFrenchiestFry
For me it was detrimental. I wasn’t making any claim about anybody else. Doesn’t appeal to me but for younger kids, who missed out on previous generations and don’t have much of their own money, it’ll be fantastic.
HURRY UP SONY!!! Let me see the UI and features now
@LiamCroft Yes, it has to.
@LiamCroft A lot more criticism should be thrown at Sony so they will give us what we want. Information. Any. About the console, about it's features, you know, the console we can (well, could) pre purchase, but have no idea what it's actual feature set includes. How about making some noise and be critical but without toxic negativity? Seems like a fair trade. Without some negative feedback Sony won't stop being the arrogant company we want to do better for the sake of gaming.
I want the ability to be able to gift a game to a friend, like on Steam.
Given they have practically 3 different store fronts depending on how you access it (PS4/PC/phone) saying they'll have this or that feature is pointless until we see how its implemented across platforms.
I'd ask for a upgrade to the search feature as its beyond help on PS4.
@SilentScorpion_ does it really matter if you know that there will be a message saying you can't play certain games on ps5 beforehand? Does it matter that you know you can create wishlists now? Would that affect whether you buy a console? Those are such miniscule details that it's not worth mentioning. They've said all they needed to say and the things they left out are nice little surprises and really aren't a selling point. Do you really buy consoles for the ability to make a WISHLIST????
@TheFrenchiestFry Hi. I remember during the PS4/Xbox One launch that MS upgraded their speed a hair at the last second to slightly narrow the gap in processing power. It is my firm belief that Sony are holding as many of their cards as close to their chest as possible while leading up to launch. The share functionality of the PlayStation 4 also led to a quick patch by Microsoft to do the same thing on their machine, although not as effectively. MS have a long history of copying everything from everyone and I could bore people with a million examples. It's not for no reason Sony are tight lipped.
@KathyQ
Totally agree. I like PlayStation because they have amazing games that I want to play. Having seen gameplay of Demon's Souls, Horizon 2, Ratchet and Clank,
Returnal, etc., I think I'll still be a fan. I couldn't care less what the UI looks like.
Leave it up to fanboys to say that any bit criticism is an attack.
If I plan to pay $500 for a new console than yeah I'd expect to know as many details as possible.
This attitude that you can't say anything about a company (not a person) because it's "mean" or "bullying" is ridiculous. These are not your friends.
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