PS4 Firmware Update 8.01 Is Available to Download Now

Especially right now where there are a number of known bugs, some real patch notes from Sony would be nice.

Sony's version of Nintendo's stability.

Another update, another generic changelog.

When will Sony finally start adding some detail around what these so-called "stability" updates actually fix?

I'm glad for the updates themselves, just the lack of any clear comms around what they do is what's missing.

I have a huge problem. I have 60 gb of saves on PS4 ane it doesn't let me upload to cloud so I can download on PS5 tomorrow...
What can I do? The only external with more than 60 gb I have is the one I'm using as extended storage, and also seeing all the bugs with external devices I don't even want to try it for now. Will I have to pick the most important saves 1 by 1?

@AFCC You can manually upload all saves for a particular game by pressing Options with the game selected and choosing the Upload/Download option.

P.S. 60GB of save files. What have you been playing?

Turns it into a PS5.

Gotta wonder if this has something to do with the transfer of data between the two consoles.

@JimbobLink I honestly don't know how this happen. I have a ton of games but this seems a bit extreme...it's possible that the 60gb show also other accounts? My cousins usually played on my console when they visit.

Does it remove the ability for Jim Ryan to look at how you are using your internal storage?

"Sony has given PS4 owners one last thing to look forward to"

For you maybe, I've got at least another year of PS4 gaming to look forward to. Not everyone is getting on the PS5 train just yet.

the improvments will be calling this ps4 and half console

Doubt it'll be the last PS4 firmware update.

And as for the last thing? PS4 has still got about 2 to 3 years left in it yet. Game publishers don't turn their back on 115 million consoles.

@ralphdibny LOL. LOOK AT MY DISK USE JIM! LOOK AT IT!!

Still not as stable as 3DS.

@deathaxe yeah sure mate! The only PS4 game I will play on PS5 (for now) is GoW and GoT, so I can just manually transfer these saves

@NEStalgia lol it's not the worse invasion of privacy but it's still a weird thing to claim to know about. A bit like someone telling you exactly what you had for breakfast, who cares but why does that someone know or care

@ralphdibny It's actually kind of terrifying how much these companies know. Your play habits are quite valuable information for sale....attached to al your other "non personally identifiable information (that together is all quite easily identified") they can build quite the psych profile on us. That info sells quite well.

Both XSX and PS5 now ask during the setup if you want to send "limited information only" or "we'll take everything that interests us", though they may have worded that latter option slightly differently

Granted the HDD data is probably from a total statistics chart of "x # of installed PS5's are within 60-70 %, 70-80%, 90-100% disc use" etc, so it's probably pretty much a few lines of numbers. That's kind of Jim's problem that's so frustrating to most of us. He sees the world through generalized statistics of a few lines of numbers. I think I'd prefer if he sat down with me and watched everything I did with my console. And ever time I gave him the finger during it.

@NEStalgia yeah it's pretty bad in my opinion, I always turn off or choose the most limited option of the data gathering options on all my devices. But I do realise it's still being collected on certain things, it's just the trade off I have to accept for using something like a mobile phone.

There's probably not a lot we can do about it as individuals and some laws have been passed (in the UK at least) that give us better protections but normally a different law that overrides it gets passed when there is a terror attack or something.

I don't watch them but there seem to be a lot of popular documentaries out these days that I think are increasing people's awareness though I'm sure a lot of people still just don't care.

@ralphdibny Yep. Some of it is legit and benign. If Sony or MS, or Ubisoft wants to collect player statistics, it's not all malicious, and a lot of it really is used for the purposes of understanding the product use and where to allocate what resources. But so much of it is used either for sale to external companies, or to decide basically, who's a useful whale and who's useless and can be screwed with minimal negative impact. Even the benign data has shifted the consumer relationship to companies, since instead of companies having to broadly target a wide market kind of blindly and equally, they can just target who's useful for them and cut out the "fat" of the mid and low return consumer. In Ryan's case though I wonder the value of the information if he can read the HDD usage stats and say with a straight face that there's no problem and there's plenty of storage. We really need a "this is fine" gif for that.

The less benign collection though is scary.

The US, we just assume we're sold out and are a mere plaything of the corporations that rule the country from the start. UK seems to do a better job pretending that's not true even though everyone knows it's also true there. EU seems to overall have a lot more "protection" against such things, but I mostly assume that's just an elaborate, well decorated sham as well. Big Data seems to play the same role in modern industrialized governments the Vatican did in controlling all the kingdoms of Europe during the dark ages....

@NEStalgia I think overall you are correct, the main downside that I experience is that I end up buying a lot more rubbish that I probably wouldn't have if I didn't see targeted ads/sponsored content and the other weird and subtle methods there are to liberate you of your money. I know a lot of those sorts of ads can easily be seen through and avoided but some stuff is definitely low key enough to work. My garage full of George Foreman Lean Mean Grilling machines can attest to that....just kidding haha

I know it's a bit of a separate thing but I understand that the EU didn't take very kindly to the information Snowden leaked about the extent of US surveillance which I believe led to them upping security and possibly being less lenient towards the big US data collection firms like Apple and Amazon in general. I may be conflating the points there but it's a bit out of my scope to understand it all. All I know is that companies and governments collect the data, I don't feel particularly comfortable with it but I accept it begrudgingly and as little as possible in exchange for their goods and services.

"Feel that Stability"

It's awesome! I can't hear my fan anymore and it makes toast!

My PS4 Pro is doing fine with 8.0. I will pass on 8.01 and update with the next mandatory update.

Dualsense support? Does not look like I am getting any use out of these anytime soon.

@Robinsad havent exoerienced any bugs yet...

@AFCC ps+ allows 100hb of cloud storage. So if you don't have it either use the 14 day free trial or just pay for a month. If you have it contact Sony and see why you can't upload?

I poped a platinum on the 18th before ps5 came out and will pop one today on the 19th in celebration to mark the new console.
If only i could get one Game sites froze at midnight launch and amazon only had scalpers ones for sale at £600+ to £1000+ and all of them sold.

@Aaron101 I actually double checked and all my saves are in cloud, I just can't add them manually or overwrite the data. But when I look all my recent games are there.

Yeah thanks for killing my PS4 Sony. Real mature

@deathaxe Well the saves worked for me. The external drive I didn't even try.
Now I got one more problem. All games work except 1, ghost of tsushima...when copying the data from the disk it says "Can't Install" and simply stops....no one seems to know anything about this. The game worked fine on PS4.

I'll be very disappointed if it doesn't improve system performance.