If you've been looking to extend your PlayStation 5 storage capacity by finally gaining access to the internal SSD slot, we hope you signed up for the recently announced console update beta program. Sony has uploaded a new support page detailing how to add an M.2 SSD to the console, and the ability will be made available to beta testers first. "This feature is only available to beta users at this time. The internal M.2 SSD expansion feature will be enabled via an upcoming PS5 system software update," the site reads.
To meet the requirements of the PS5 hardware, the M.2 SSD must use the "PCIe Gen4 x4 M.2 NVMe SSD" interface and have a capacity of at least 250GB. The largest internal SSD you'll be able to install is a 4TB one. It also must meet a certain form factor and have a sequential read speed of 5,500MB/s or faster. More information is provided through the link. The site in question also details how an M.2 SSD can be installed, requiring a cross-head screwdriver and a "well-lit room with a table to work on".
Once the 12 steps on the site have been followed, you'll be able to boot up the PS5 once more and begin to move data and software over to the SSD. And just to be clear, "PS5 games are playable on M.2 SSD storage". You can download PS5 titles directly to the storage device and update them too.
Shared alongside this welcome update are the first details on a PS5 compatible M.2 SSD from Seagate. A 500GB model will set you back $149, a 1TB upgrade costs $254, the 2TB option is $514, and the big 4TB device will be $999. You can learn much more through the link.
[source playstation.com]
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Awesome!
Personally I think I'll wait a while and try to manage the internal SSD a bit better until their are more options and the prices are a bit more reasonable, but hey it's good Sony kept their promise to have this in by Summer 2021.
This is not a very elegant solution but I’ll take what I can get.
One less thing for the sad guys to cry about. They won’t though, they’re sad guys after all 😂😂😂
Not an issue for me though either way. I play a game then delete it and have the next already installed. That plus maybe one or two others I’ve bought digitally cos they were at a massive discount significantly cheaper than buying it physically. So there’d be a max of 5 games at once which is 100’s of gb under its maximum
1000 dollars! 🙈
Ok so when do we get to know if we are beta testers?
Oh yes
Let’s add VRR in the next update as well and we have a fantastic time.
@angrygamer I guess sometime in August.
Apparently the Beta also includes:
Yikes those prices are pretty insane not that I'm surprised. I'll be sticking to the external hard drive cold storage method for a while longer but good to get an update on this finally.
The one from Seagate is available for around 220-230 EUR (1 TB) in Germany.
Looking out for the official list by Sony with the compatible SSDs.
@Reeneman I've just notice the drives are pre order for August the 1st, it would be good to know before then so you can pre order one!?
Those prices are that annoying point where it tempts you to go for the next size up.
Really hope folders are coming soon too.
@Voltan really? Cool!
3D Sound for AVR/Soundsystems would be great as well.
Probably a 1TB option for me when I need it down the line, I just can't ever see myself remortgaging the house for that 4TB behemoth lol
@angrygamer hope to get a 1 TB for 150€. That would be cool haha
Hopefully we'll see prices drop quickly on external drives. At the moment I cannot really afford the even a 1TB drive.
@Reeneman Yes, at least according to some tweets in Japanese. I'm not 100% sure it's an accurate source
@Futureshark totally agree! I will take part on the beta program most likely for the other new features. Regarding the SSD I will patiently wait for the final release of the firmware and price drops of the SSDs (hopefully).
To buy one of the first SSDs and to use it with a beta firmware might be a bit too much
Ouch, those prices ... Looks like I'll be deleting stuff for a while.
@angrygamer at least the on from Seagate seems to meet all the specs by Sony.
No infos given so far about other manufacturers.
@AndyKazama usually prices for storage decreases relatively fast. But during this crazy times with the pandemic I won’t make any bets on it.
If being an early adopter of the PS5 is being a beta tester then does that make you a beta-beta tester?
Will definitely wait until the full release as I don't want to risk swapping my PS5 for a brick.
What a load of messing about for the end user the customer.
They should of gone plug and play the series x solution. Currently £170 for 1tb.
I much appreciate Sony’s PS5 game library at the moment but when it comes to expanding the internal ssd it’s a bad solution.
@Reeneman I'm guessing when its "official" they will provide a list. Well I hope they do lol
@render at least be happy to have a console since release
I haven’t really felt like a beta tester during release. Some issues occured but nothing ground breaking. Since the first large system update in April the console runs pretty well
Have they stated how this will be cooled since you can't fit one with a heatsink?
Will the fan speeds be increased when it detects you have one installed?
@Reeneman Oh I'm definitely not unhappy, I've not really had many problems. Just the odd crash here and there and a few weird things like the auto syncing of saves saying that there's a clash when the one on the local drive is the same date as the one on the cloud. Other than that I'm very happy which is why I don't want to chance it
@Dezzy70 it’s definitely easier with the Microsoft solution that’s true.
@blinx01 small heatsinks will fit.
The compatible SSDs have to match specific values in terms of performance and heat under stress.
Please see the linked website by Sony. There are a lot of details.
@blinx01 Apparently you can fit one with a heatsink and I think they recommend it. They even have instructions for installing a heat sink in their support page.
@Dezzy70 Do the MS ones top out at 1TB or will there be other options in the future? With PS5 you can have max 4TB so wondered if the same limitation applies to Xbox?
@Voltan
Great news then.
I just don't want a PS4 Pro fan noise situation! LOL
It's nuts that you can add 1TB of storage to your PS5 or buy an Xbox Series S for not much more!
@blinx01 I guess the fan speed will increase a little bit after installing an additional SSD but it won’t be too drastically
@BionicDodo these are release prices for the first more or less compatible SSD.
If more manufacturers will offer compatible SSDs the prices will drop.
At least it should be like that, in this special times with the worldwide pandemic it could be way slower. We will see.
Please tell me that I am not the only person who doesn’t much like the idea of HAVING TO TAKE THE CONSOLE APART.
What about warranties and such things?
I think I will just stick to my external HDD, thanks.
I am just hoping that these don't make my quiet PS5 sound loud once I install one :-/ I am guessing the PS5 will run hotter once I install one. Hopefully there will be no airplane sounds
@Matthewnh You just need to remove one of the plastic faceplates (which you should probably do sometimes to remove dust from the dust catchers) and there's a dedicated bay underneath it. Not exactly taking the console apart, only one or two screws are involved.
@render
That’s a very good point, I would have thought in the future there might be bigger memory sizes.
Time will tell
@Voltan
Yes your are correct with the process, but this is not consumer friendly and bad for 2021 at any stretch of the imagination.
This is great news but I'm also one of the people who feel very uncomfortable taking apart the system.
And we all thought the Vita memory cards were expensive 🤣
@Dezzy70 They had to choose between plug&play and allowing standard M.2 drives (you can't really have that on the outside). The first option (which Xbox went with) makes it simple, the other gives you choice and possibly cheaper alternatives in time. I'd say both are consumer friendly in one way and unfriendly in another.
It would be probably better if you could access the drive bay without taking off the faceplate but I guess it wasn't possible with PS5's design.
On one hand, should had expected the 1tb option to be more expensive than the Xbox one because it’s faster (spec wise anyways) but at the same time, being a standard stick instead of a custom fork factor, I was hoping it would be a bit cheaper or at least equal price.
Either way it’s a bit more than I’m willing to throw at a memory expansion, so I’ll likely will just continue to delete games as needed. Good thing I don’t care for call of duty games.
@Voltan due to how long it’s been for sale, we already see plenty of deals on the Xbox plug and play option, and seagate is supposed to only have an exclusive window of a year. Once that’s up there might be more options popping up from competitors, lowering the price further.
Sadly, the barrier to install the upgrade on PS5 might be enough to limit it from becoming mass market thing, and we will have to rely on M2 popularity among PC users to help the prices drop.
@Voltan
Yes a simpler plug in slot at the rear of the console or something. I think you have to use a screw drive as well.
Let’s hope the general public know all about static discharge when it comes to memory and electronics.
Meh, thanks but no thanks. With solid internet the games download so fast on PS5 it really doesn’t matter anymore (to me at least). Keep a few heavy hitters on there, a handful of indies, and swap out when you’re ready.
Just think of how many games you could buy for those prices!
I wouldn't be in the first wave of this, I'm expecting there to be issues given how many issues folks playing ps4 games off externals drives experienced at launch!
That's too much money for me to spunk on SSD expansion at the moment. Will get one for each of my PS5s down the line though.
Way too expensive at present. I’ll be waiting for the prices to come down.
@angrygamer I got an email about half hour ago inviting me to the beta so I guess people will be finding out imminently
This is such a silly question, but, does this replace the internal SSD? Or can you have both the internal SSD and this additional one installed? Probably the former, but the article almost made it sound like we could have both.
It's no hardship to just transfer to external to be honest you godda be a stupid gaming juncky to even be bothered about that ***** who cares if you feel you ain't got the memory don't buy the game it's as simple as that I just think these hardcore gamers expect way to much their is a real world outside you know
Hardcore gamers are like baby's they demand and expect more than an actual baby
As much as I love and enjoy gaming I just settle for what's available and take pride in the graphics as I mainly like games for graphics but i'd love to be that person that has control over telling a Mardy hardcore gamer who expects the world simply NO and if you don't like it sell it becouse we don't need anymore gaming narcasists (just saying)
@kingbreww No now they will cry about having to use a screw driver !
@angrygamer you didn’t receive an email?
Ooh, a beta release of internal storage support on a console that at launch could brick itself if you used rest mode with a USB drive attached while also being almost impossible to replace said console. This sounds like a good idea! Where do I insert this paperclip?
I'm really looking forward to having a meaningful amount of storage on PS5 but.....don't mind me while I sit back and wait for others to
brick their consolesstay ahead of the pack. I can await greatness a while longer. The price is worse than the XB one, though not tremendously more so.I get that in time the prices could come down, and stock hardware has some advantages over proprietary solutions, but there's a certain humor involved when you can quickly and easily upgrade your PS5 storage by following the simple process outlined in the diagram:
Just 3 words "OH MY GOSH " ***** these fan Mardy boys get back to your large coke large fries large burger and large keyboard and large mouse and ***** off back to your large pc and forget about PlayStation they don't need you just like your momma don't has it a guess you pc gamers still live with mum or dad or mum and dad so fizzle but keep it real yeah theirs people here who still appreciate galaga or Simpsons on Amiga 500 waffle waffle I'm waffling sorry for waffling I'll try not to waffle ever ever ever again (waffle waffle)
So sorry people new to this 29/7/21
They should make a Jeremy Kyle game
Yes, guys, storage is really expensive as you can see. This is kinda related to the people complaining about the price points to the Steam Deck. The price hikes are mostly because the storage is so expensive! That's just how it is and that's why they can never offer all that much while also keeping prices low.
So all you guilty ***** out their can share your ***** without consequences 🤣🤣🤣
Jezza jezza jezza
@BionicDodo How much has a Xbox S?
@Flaming_Kaiser Don't know about the dollar price, but they're £249 in the UK.
@BionicDodo Sorry i mean how what size is the SSD.
@Repo_Dog haha I seriously couldn’t believe that. I mean it makes sense though. If people can’t even screw in one standard screw with zero degree of difficulty then people all the people crying about not having what it takes (which really is hardly anything at all) to get a Ps5 suddenly becomes “par for the course”
@Flaming_Kaiser Oh right, 512GB.
@Ward_ting No email for me so looks like i'm not then
Will let others be testers before decide, will be interesting to see how the thermals go and if it causes the fan speed to be sped up as Sony mentioned they could of needed.
@BionicDodo Thats not so much for a digital only console?
Crazy expensive. Hopefully competition drives the prices down rather quickly.
@Flaming_Kaiser the xbox series s isn't worth it , it only does 1440p instead of 4k.
@commentlife really? Its about as complicated as replacing the batteries in a remote. You take the cover off, slot in the new one, put the cover back on.
Tons of items with battery compartments that have a small screw to help keep them in place. Its as simple as that.
@Tharsman Barrier? You ever put batteries in a remote? Nope? OK I see there's a barrier for you.
@Vertpin It's an expansion bay. Internal memory is soldered on the board is not replaceable. This will expand your PS5 storage.
@kingbreww Im totally useless at these things but i removed my PS4 harddrive many times to upgrade and it was quite easy. The only thing i made a mistake with was with putting the update file in the wrong folder. I did have one issue with a poweroutage during a firmware update... That one is a killer.... ☹️
I see how many have issues with these simple things i thought that with more technology available people would get more handy but damn i was wrong. A friend of mine said it best kids can use the things but if it takes more then clicking a icon then its over.
@lindos plenty of console-only gamers who don’t have PC build experience will be turned off by this solution when the competition offers an off the shelf plug and play option. I would not be surprised to see this addressed in a future hardware revision. It seems like a major oversight to me.
@commentlife Who would be turned off by removing a few screws and plugging something into a slot? Main thing to be aware of is static discharge, but that’s solved by simply touching a piece of metal. Hopefully people read up on that!
@BloodNinja I would be willing to bet that a large majority of PS5 owners want nothing to do with opening the case of their console and sourcing compatible PC parts for their PS5 console. Especially when MS offers a solution that’s as simple as a memory card they can buy at their local game shop. The large majority of console gamers are not as dedicated or knowledgeable as us folks on a Sony fan site. It’s overly complicated, and it should have been available on day one.
@commentlife “It’s overly complicated...”
If you think that removing a plastic cover and unscrewing two screws to be able to stick something into a slot is overly complicated, you really need help there bud!
@BloodNinja haha OK, dude. Now you’re just being combative. Save it for the dojo. I’m talking about the average console gamer, not you or I or likely most people with accounts on this site. I’m thinking of like… cousin Jerry down the street who’s not too technical and just wants to play some NHL with the b’ys over a couple of beers on the weekend. Or some 10 year old who’s eventually gonna ask his mom or dad to do this install for them. If all you’ve ever done is game on unmodded consoles and are now being asked to open the case and install a PC hard drive just to get a reasonable amount of storage, you are going to question this solution. Especially when you look at what the other guy is offering. I stand by my original post, it’s just not a very elegant solution, and I’ll bet my house that it lands with a thud with the casual crowd.
@commentlife I have more faith in people to be able to figure out something like this. The diagram is super simple looking, and it only requires a single tool that’s generally a household item. What you’re really saying, is you think the “casual” crowd is too stupid to change two screws.
@BloodNinja not what I’m saying at all, I’m saying they’re going to look at this and be like why do I need a tool and a diagram when I’ve never needed a tool or a diagram before? The prospect of it will be enough to turn some people away from the process. It’s unbecoming of console gaming. Not a very elegant solution, and will land with a thud with casual gamers.
I'll wait for others to be guinea pigs with this before I use the SSD. Wasn't even rest mode causing problems at some point. Hehe
@commentlife That’s such a strange prediction. You really think that removing two common screws and inserting a card into a slot will land with a thud? Makes zero sense, you’re over-blowing it and you need more faith in the intelligence of people.
@ILikeStake with all the shortages with computer chips , prices aren't going down any time soon.
@BloodNinja you just cherry pick the process of putting the hard drive into the slot every time. It's way more than that for the average person. It's having to deal with sourcing the correct part, following a diagram, opening the case, etc. There are things that could go wrong, static discharge like you mentioned, etc. etc. Lots of things a lot of people have never had to worry about, and don't WANT to worry about. It's nothing to do with people's intelligence, it's a comfort level thing. I know one of the things I personally like about console gaming, and why I haven't turfed all of my consoles in favor of my gaming PC, is the simplicity of it. People that game on consoles just want to stick one thing in the back of another thing and be off to the races. I think you're still approaching this from a position of slight bias. I would imagine you've built PC's before, or you've replaced a PS4 harddrive, or something. Something that has given you that comfort level. Yes 100%, once you do it once, you realize it's really not that bad. But for a LOT of people, being fiddly with electronics is not something they're comfortable doing. I was nervous as all heck the first time I built a PC. Is it a prediction? Yes, absolutely. I am predicting a lot of people are going to hate this process because it is outside of their comfort zone, and for some people, that will be enough to give them a sour taste. You are predicting it will be well received. Time will tell.
@commentlife You literally remove the hard shell, and take out two screws and insert something into a one way slot. You would have to go out of your way to mess this up, or have poor object/spacial recognition. The more you talk about it, the less convinced I am that you have seen the instructions as put forth on Sony’s site. Another user likened this to replacing batteries in a remote, and he’s not wrong.
@BloodNinja and the more you talk, the more convinced I am you just want to have an argument about something. You're being intentionally reductive and condescending of the fact that some people who have never touched the inside of an electronic device are going to feel some level of discomfort beginning right at "You literally remove the hard shell..." It doesn't matter how clear the instructions are. I am glad you're super comfortable with it, it's a great skill to have. But not everyone is going to feel the same level of comfort with this. It's not about me and my ability to do this, it's about the general population's comfort level with dealing with the internals of an electronic device. It's just not the solution it should have been, and I strongly believe it will be poorly received.
@kingbreww Well ever other xbox site is all ready crying about that 2 screws and how anti consumer it is !
@lindos @lindos lol some of these people have to have there 6 year do it for them a screw drive just to tough !
@commentlife Yeah, I’m not taking about myself in the slightest, but your internal bias is preventing you from seeing that. I even said I have faith in people’s intelligence, but you are simply here to argue your projected point. Trust me, people are smart. They can figure out this simple operation. You’re the one saying that “casuals” won’t be able to handle it.
@BloodNinja haha nice attempt at deflection? I keep saying it's about comfort not intelligence, and you keep ignoring me, yet I am the one being argumentative? You literally told me I needed help if I thought this process was confusing haha. You said in another thread you've been building PC's since the late 90s, yet I am the one with internal bias? Gotcha, cool. Well, nice chat regardless, enjoy the weekend!
@commentlife Yes, because you’re the one with the problem over such a minor squabble. Not my fault that screws puzzle you, but I believe in you bud! But, you can’t even follow a simple conversation without resorting to deflection, so not sure! My point is that this is far easier than PC building, it’s just simple plug and play.
This is unnecessarily complicated. Not just compared to Xbox but even the process for swapping storage on PS3 and PS4.
@Repo_Dog well it’s Xbox. The perennial 2nd place getters in a two horse race 😂
Finally some real updates...though I shall just continue to delete games until the compatible SSDs are alot cheaper.
Here's a question........... I have ordered a 1tb WD_BLACK SN850 with Heatsink............ Once you take the side plate off and unscrew the metal plate and install the card............. Are you supposed to put the metal plate back on, or leave it off for air flow?
I can't find instructions anywhere for it
@SilkySmile89 I have absolutely no idea how I missed this in Cerny's presentation. This is awesome.
@Oz_Momotaro Saying I have faith in the intelligence of others is offensive and stupid, you heard it here first, folks.
@Oz_Momotaro You’re the one that keeps talking to me, so I’ll just chalk that up to having another adoring fan! Thanks bae <3
ADORING NINJA APPROVED
@Voltan
You are right.
It was far easier than I thought it would be. Followed the instructions on PlayStation.com.
Found the correct screwdriver, packaged with my speaker stands.
It took only five minutes to install, and then it was up-and-running.
In truth, the only difficult part was removing the faceplate to begin with.
I bought the WD Black 2TB SSD.
And it sure is fast.
@Matthewnh Nice. I'm kinda tempted to add one myself but I then I remind myself I don't really need it yet
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