Horizon Forbidden West is shaping up to be a stonker in more ways than one! Early data scrubbed from Sony’s servers and shared on Twitter by PlayStation Game Sizes suggests that the Guerrilla sequel may have a file size of more than 96GB prior to any patches on the PlayStation 5. While this information is historically reliable, the account does caveat that the numbers can change prior to release, and it’s obviously worth remembering that the action RPG is still a couple of months away.
Nevertheless, with an initial footprint this big, it does suggest that the game may ship on two Blu-ray discs, which Sony has yet to communicate if that’s the case. Titles like The Last of Us 2 and Final Fantasy VII Remake required multiple discs so this isn’t unprecedented, and we’ll try to check in with the platform holder to confirm if that’s the case here. What’s interesting is that this information is specifically referring to the PS5 version, and seeing as new-gen file sizes have generally trended lower, we dread to think what the PS4 size will be.
Of course, it’s still possible this could be a development build showing up on internal databases, and not necessarily the final consumer product. Nevertheless, with the sheer amount of content the Dutch developer looks to have packed into this title, would anyone be surprised if it did end up with a file size this large?
[source twitter.com]
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Me: quality or quantity?
Guerrilla: yes
They've never let us down so let's wait and see.
I'm one of those people who just puts the game in and doesn't even look at the file size unless the console says it's a problem.
But then I'm also one of those people who still thinks Sonic & Knuckles' lock-on technology was actual magic.
@PhhhCough File size isn't indicative of quality nor quantity. A ton of games are just bloated with unused textures and sounds files and the devs just don't bother to clean it up.
Its a massive open world with high end graphics. I dont know why this is a shock. COD being that size is a shock but this is understandable. Plus they can reduce the size with a patch like AC Valhalla recently did
if its that big on ps5 its going to be way bigger on ps4
We want the top end AAA graphics etc and that’s what PlayStation deliver. Bring it on I don’t care how big the file size is.
No one cares how big files are anymore. That was last years news bruh
Eeeugh. Bit large for my liking, given how the PS5 constantly complains about having no space left.
No biggy, have a 1tb firecuda in my ps5 so should be fine for a bit at least...
Bigger than expected but I don't mind. I'll make room.
Anyways - while the PS4 version might ship on multiple discs in this case, the PS5 uses UHD Blu-rays which are supposed to house up to 123 GB of data.
I think next year maybe in the sales i should invest in a 1TB internal for my PS5.
Surely it will be bigger on ps4 as the ps5 shrinks the file size?
Not a fan of massive install sizes. This one may wait until I upgrade my paltry internal SSD.
Hopefully Guerilla can do some optimizing before release cause that file size is a doozy.
Every GB will worth it
@nessisonett Mine did that before I started deleting the games I'm not playing 😉
@theheadofabroom Me, my mum and my brother all play the console. We’re all playing different games at the minute so it’s a bit more complicated.
It's all good. I've gotten in the habit of either moving the game to the external hard drive or deleting it after I finish something. Mostly only keep whatever I'm playing currently and a few smaller titles on the SSD and thats worked well so far.
This is where a streaming future will shine...really won't miss the downloads and installs
@Bleachedsmiles Wholeheartedly agree. More and more games will be hundreds of GBs in size and I don't want to constantly wait before playing a new game. Not to mention having to always download patches. Being able to stream games without any waiting time is definitely how I want to do things in the future.
No problem, bring it on
"A new game release with a 100GB file size"
In other breaking news water is wet
@nessisonett ah, that's a fair point which I hadn't considered. Hopefully Santa can bring one of you an m.2 to make the situation more tolerable.
So? RDR2 is 120GB and Black Ops Cold War is 115GB lol.
@johnny30 Not necessarily. File sizes can be smaller on PS5, but it has to be optimised for that. If they just copy the PS4 data, it wouldn't be any different.
The problem on PS4 is that the HDD is slow. An HDD has to physically move to access data, so to reduce load times, devs often keep all the files for a specific area or level close to each other, to minimise the distance the laser has to travel over the HDD. And therefore it makes sense to have many duplicates of certain files, even though you technically only need one. This problem is mostly mitigated with an SSD, so devs have an easier time compressing the file size.
I wish the PS4 version was scrapped but I understand it as a business choice.. it makes sense.
PS5 file size seems a bit high unless it's a two disc monster?.
@Mezzer PS5 supports Ultra HD Blu-ray (includes 100GB discs) so I'd guess PS5 version is a Ultra HD Blu-ray 100GB disc meanwhile PS4 version is either 2 standard Blu-ray discs or 1 standard Blu-ray disc with a download required (like how Switch games sometimes has a download required banner on the boxart).
@Voltan @Grumblevolcano Could just be one blu-ray which has the data already compressed and unpacks it when it gets installed. Only difference is that the PS5 can try and compress the data on the fly as it installs.
Then of course there'll be the obligatory Day 1 patch (could be as much as 100Gb) and then subsequent patches will balloon the file size.
@Mezzer Its been in production for years. No way were they going to scrap it.
I would have no problem deleting most of my games off my PS4 to make room for this. 200GB? No worries. I am hyped beyond belief for a Horizon sequel.
I pre-ordered the game digitally, so no disc swapping for me.
So about the size of a season patch for COD
@Rural-Bandit
cries in 30mb
I have faith in Guerilla on this one. It is what it is.
I won't be buying this game until I can get my hands on a ps5, so they'll have time to improve that aspect.
@Rural-Bandit
I meant, cries in my 30 mb internet. I live in the deep south where getting 30 megs is a very good day.
@LtSarge @Bleachedsmiles A loooong time before that becomes the norm. Things will go all digital with downloads before they got all streaming. There's way too many people/places that don't have the internet capable of making streaming viable.
On PS5, it's less of an issue than Xbox since more of the game is on a PS5 disc since they are UHDs and the Kraken compression.
@Gremio108 It was magic!
I’m not even close to filling up my SSD since I delete games when I’m done and only download what I’m actively playing. Have this set to pre-load as soon as it drops, but I still might invest in an internal SSD next year if I can get my hands on a Series X fairly soone
@KilloWertz All digital is already the majority of game sales so that’s already the “norm”. Sure game streaming will be bad in more rural areas but that’s just how things are. New tech always takes longer to permeate in areas of lower population density. The beginnings of game streaming being a convenient and viable option for enough people to make a difference isn’t far at all.
Oof. Time to get that screwdriver....
Lol @ 2 discs, who buys physical anymore?
@KilloWertz Not as far away as you think.
Streaming is the norm now with entertainment...majority of us stream music, movies and and shows. They still sell all those physically. They still have bad internet in certain countries (hell parts of America have terrible internet)...streaming services are still being pushed and invested in.
Xbox is also UHD too by the way. Will have evolve their own compression techniques no doubt, and will keep investing in cloud streaming which is now part of gamepass (if there's another option to stream new releases then download sizes are even less of a problem for Xbox going forward).
@Bleachedsmiles Streaming movies and TV is different than streaming a video game. You can stream both movies and TV just fine and get it in at least HD, but good luck getting the graphics of the Series X version of Forza Horizon 5 streaming on DSL. Also, the games stream in 1080p, so technically it's not an option no matter what internet you have.
The Series X has a UHD drive, but the games are on Blu-ray because of Smart Delivery. It'd be surprising if they switched even when games are new gen only (I'm guessing The Medium is still on Blu-ray, but I can't confirm). Regardless, streaming for video games is much farther off as taking over as the norm unlike movies and TV, so that also doesn't do much for your last point. Just because they keep investing in it, which obviously they will, doesn't mean it is taking over anytime soon. It's a nice alternative for people able to take advantage of it, especially if you don't have a new gen console yet, but the money invested in all of the high powered technology driving these new games won't be thrown away either because of an option only a percentage of people can use reasonably.
@KilloWertz Youre talking about today...I'm not talking about today. So streaming quality of today is moot. Streaming capabilities of today is moot. A streaming future is certain...but nobody other than yourself is suggesting physical medium or downloading won't still be available - even in the example I used of how Netflix and the like have transformed how we get our content I still recognised they're available by other means.
No suggestion of anything being 'thrown away'.
But I don't believe streaming as common place is 'loooong way off'...I guess it depends on your perspective of a long way off. I'm thinking by the end of this current generation we'll be viewing streaming differently. It will be a more common way to ingest content...that gives about 7-10years.
All the signs are there. The tech is being widely adopted and pushed now by more publishers, hell even Netflix will be getting into games. There's already strong rumours Xbox will be bringing out a streaming box within the next few years.
Technology doesn't stand still. And isn't contained within a vacuum. Look back on what your broadband speed was when the PS4 released...is it faster now? I know mine is.
At the end of the day Sony partnered with Microsoft for a reason. Streaming content will end up as favourable as downloading digital content is now (remember there was similar kick back). But don't get it twisted, it won't replace anything (you can still buy CDs. DVDs. Vinyl. Probably cassettes and VHS in some cases). But I think it will be the preferred way most of us ingest content sooner that I get the impression you do.
Not an issue on my PC not an issue on my PS5
It has been happening on PC for ages now... Forza is 101GB on my Drive, it looks amazing.
Clean your NVMe. You should be doing that anyway.
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