In the UK, 70% of Boxed Horizon Forbidden West Buyers Paid More Than They Needed To

I didn't lol.....I will never pay £70 for a game out of principal

£50 is extortion as it is

I just want that PS5 label on shelf 🤣

It might not be the sensible thing to do but I’m not gonna lie - I got the PS5 version because I wanted it to say PS5 on the box
(I’m not in UK though)

I’m sure it will be worth it to have The PS5 version when the servers finally go down.

I can understand why some people got OCD about having the PS5 box, and paying extra for it. When it comes to the videogame shelf, everything has a place, and everything must be in its place! I bought it digitally, but if I was still going the physical route, I'd have wanted the PS5 box too

Us Brits just love being bent over, it's what we do. Food costs, energy bills, train tickets, video game prices...

@ShogunRok You can make anything look cheap by comparing it to the cost of an intercity train ticket.

A part of me says fine support the developers they probably deserve it more than others but then again some may want the box too… depends if you’re really that fussed to save a tenner and by the looks of it British people like throwing money away.

@ShogunRok this comment had me ☠️🤣🤣🤣🤣 sad but true!

@Grimwood But for the universe, I am not certain yet.

I wonder what proportion of the 70% were PS5 hardware bundles. Given how hard it is to get a PS5, £10 more expensive HFW version to guarantee a PS5 will probably have been worth it for many.

What is the real price difference in UK? Here in Germany, it’s just 5 Euro, despite thr MSRP difference of 10 Euro.

Interestingly I bought the PS4 version digitally that also had a free upgrade to PS5. So I paid £59.99 for the PS5 version. And the PS5 version on the store was £69.99.

Weirdly I could only buy this on the App and not via the PS5 store

@get2sammyb well, technically it does say free PS5 upgrade available on the PS4 box.. can't get much clearer than that. It can, I know, but still, that's good/fair enough.

Horribly sneaky from Sony. Especially right when the energy bills are going through the roof. Yes, games are a luxury but still, fleecing your customers is just gross.

@Fragile The platforming really is pants! Especially coming off the admittedly unrealistic AC Valhalla. Good thing somebody went around spray painting certain rocks yellow 😂

I don't know, man... I don't even want the game nor I live there but even I knew about the 10 difference between consoles. I feel like the people that pay that extra ten just don't care about it. I have a friend like that.

I paid £80 for the digi deluxe version. I got a few outfits and weapons that I don't use, some meaningless in-game resources and a Strike figure that I don't play. Total. Sucker.

I’m all digital PS5. So essentially I should purchase the PS4 version and then “upgrade” to the PS5 version correct?

I bought it physically for both PS4 and PS5, I do this for a lot of games (Buy Games multiple times), so I can continue growing my physical games collection, plus it also means I always have a spare copy of some games, so I can always lend one version of the game to a friend (Like I did with Kena, Bugsnax & Alan Wake Remastered), or simply put one version of the game away in a container as a backup copy should something happen to my current version.

Im quite sure of that 70%, 90% of them were just not informed of that free upgrade path. I'm sorry to say but it's pure filth on Sony's part.

@Fragile Sounds like my expectations are in check then, good. What you said sums up my experience with HZD precisely. And I’m guessing HFW is more of the same but with yet another layer of RPG elements added to it.

Most of those people probably didn't know about the "free" upgrade.

Secondly, they could do what I'm doing... wait for a price drop. $70 is too steep for a regular edition game IMO and I'm pretty patient. Thus... I wait.

If it was some other average game I'd probably save the £10 but this is Horizon Forbidden West!... I also would've probably bought the PS5 version if I was going physical. For digital though, it makes sense to buy PS4 version.

Anyone who's figured out how to get a PS5, knew about the upgrade. They just didn't care and wanted the PS5 case. I bought digital deluxe but I'd have done same.

I’m one of the 70%…sorry! I’m one of those people who wanted the ps5 box on my shelf.
Even though I bought it, and I’m really enjoying it, I still think that £70 for a game is too much. Especially when you compare it to Elden Ring which is only £49.99.

The ultimate irony would be if it had a reversible cover which is identical, apart from the PS4/PS5 label.

@get2sammyb - Sneaky to the point that Sony could have invited a class action lawsuit. At least that's what Hoeg Law seems to believe. Whether that turns out to be true or not it's certainly a shady move.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/lawyer-lambasts-sony-for-deceptive-marketing-of-horizons-free-ps5-upgrade/

Bought the PS5 version so that I don't have to rely on a patch to play the PS5 version, simple as that.

It's not really the same game. May as well buy digital then, but that's my point, I just want the physical PS5 version.

I paid £52 on Amazon for three PS4 copy. These discs will probably never see the inside of a PS4.

And this is why I am anti-Sony at the moment. There are times in gaming history when it's clear one company is being a total arsehat above all others. It's previously been both Nintendo and Microsoft at times but at the moment the arsehat is currently being worn by Sony.
The worst thing is this behaviour of theirs is being rewarded. Fanboyism at its worst. It was good for gaming when the Xbox One launch was criticised and resulted in the gaming narrative change. It'll be good for gaming when the same happens for Sony as they stand.

@Octane it's not a patch.

@pip_muzz didn't they agree to, and then fulfill the promise to, upgrade all PS4 copies to PS5?

@MattBoothDev It is though, isn't it? You don't get the PS5 version on the PS4 disc. You just get the PS4 version. If you want to play the PS5 version (higher resolution, frame rate, etc.) you need to download the patch.

And I wasn't planning on playing the PS4 version when I have a PS5.

1. Sony shouldn’t have increased the price in the first place.
2. They should have ended the free upgrade by now. First 6 months, yes, but we’re way beyond that now.

Either way they get bad press.

I do think some of the blame falls on the consumer. There’s always a risk of overpaying (for anything) if you’re not willing to do some research beforehand.

I personally chose the PS5 version because it was only £60.85 online and I prefer all of my games to have the PS5 box art 🤷

@Octane nah, you download the PS5 version of the game from PSN. The PS4 version never did get installed for my console.

You put the PS4 disc in, you see both the PS4 version, installing paused, and the PS5 version on the menu. You are you about the free upgrade, that you need to keep your PS4 disc to play the PS5 game.

Once installed and you cancel it, the PS4 version stops showing on the menu.

I bought the PS5 version physical and I don’t feel bad about it.

1. I wanted the steelbook special edition.
2. I wanted a PS5 disc to save bandwidth.
3. The PS5 is the first console I’ve owned since the original Xbox where I don’t plan on trading or reselling my games. I want my PS5 games to look good on a shelf.

So from what I understand about people who bought the PS5 version in the comments. You've essentially spent £10 on cosmetic horse armour.

@pip_muzz you couldn't add the PS5 free games for PS+ when using the PS4, either, unless you used the app.

I did that for months before actually getting a PS5.

I personally pre-ordered on Amazon for £52 and saved myself £18.

Ah, that time again: shaming other gamers!

I bought the PS5 disc, around £61 and yeah probably down to the label on the box and a quicker & simpler download. I'll probably pay the same for GT 7 as well.

😂

As long as Sony give you a choice, what's the big deal? Probably the sooner they stop making games for the PS4 the better. I don't see £70 games going away anytime soon, but if you shop around physically you'll be able to buy any game for cheaper. Seems the digital lot are most inconvenienced but they don't have to worry about the postie delivering their disc in time.

😉

@Futureshark

I will say I do have one disappointment with my PS5 physical special edition.

The steelbook is the same between both PS4 and PS5. Mine has an empty slot for the data disc on the PS4 version.

That said, I’m glad they didn’t label the console logo anywhere on the steelbook itself. From the outside, you can’t tell.

@Royalblues games are usually at least £10 more expensive on PSN over the physical counterparts.

To me there's literally no trade off worth overpaying on pretty much every single game.

I paid £40 for The Last of Us Part 2, new, on release, when it was £60 on PSN.

You'd have to be mad or really wealthy to do it in the UK.

@Col_McCafferty well, given that they were giving the upgrade for free they were effectively overpricing three PS5 version by £10.

They should've really kept price parity given the situation.

And while I’m not exactly happy with the price jump for all PS5 Sony games, I do think it needs to be pointed out that there was a time when it worse.

Cartridge systems back in the day had wildly varying prices on software titles. I paid 70 bucks for Rogue Squadron back in the day. And that was in 1999 dollars.

So PS5 games are cheaper than most N64 games back in that console’s hey day. If anything, I’m surprised games aren’t selling for 100 bucks these days considering the inflation increase since the 90s.

I bought the PS5 disc. I'd rather not have to rub my belly & pat my head at the same time dealing with a PS4 to PS5 upgrade.
And to sink even lower, I much prefer the classy white around the PS5 text to the Paw Patrol blue of the PS4 cover art. I'm shallow like that😁

@Shepherd_Tallon - I guess I can't really understand what the issue truly is because I buy most my games physically, and because of that I'm naturally already paying more by default, so I can't pretend like this $10 upgrade fiasco bothers me, since I buy multiple copies of games, not just for PS4 & PS5, but Switch as well (Though not as frequently), and then there's digital games I do buy but eventually get a physical release, like A Hat in Time for Switch & PS4, or the more recent Sifu for PS4 & PS5.
It's certainly more expensive this way, and there's no real justification as to why I do it outside of wanting to own and collect as many games as I can, as well as being the source that my gaming friends can turn to if they themselves can't afford or aren't willing to buy some games, though if it's a game I know for a fact they will like / play based on their specific taste in said games, I do encourage them to buy them, knowing it'll be a game they will undoubtedly end up wanting to replay later on down the road.

Seems like the debate over the new MSRP is over. PS5 owners are not only willing, but also quite eager, to pay more for a box with different branding on it, which I'm sure is music to Sony's ears, since it means the higher MSRP is pretty much guaranteed to stick around now.

Funny thing having choice. I only paid 63 55 for ps5 version so wasn't that much in it , plus it's annoying as ps4 upgrade keeps downloading the ps4 version than ps5, plus everytme I've done the free upgrade there were issues e.g assassins creed valhalla took months to allow the trophies to transfer from ps4 to ps5

I haven't got it yet but I'll get the PS4 version so it matches the blue banner of the first game on my shelf. OCD finally has an advantage!

@TheRedComet This. The SNES/N64 cartridges had wildly different game prices and the game budgets were nowhere near what they are now. I couldn't care less about paying an extra $10 as long as the games are complete and not full of microtransactions. I just don't see the big deal, especially when people spend $5 on coffee every day.

@MattBoothDev

I agree with that.

Sony should have priced all cross gen games at 60.

That said, I think I know why they didn’t. The only PS5 big budget exclusive titles are Demon’s Souls, Returnal, and Ratchet and Clank. I think Sony was thinking that those three games, compared to Horizon, Gran Turismo, and God of War, are second tier titles. For a few reasons.

1. Demon’s Souls is a niche game and is a remake of a PS3 game.
2. Returnal is an extremely niche game and isn’t very long. A lot of gamers (incorrectly, I add) think a game’s length is its value.
3. Ratchet and Clank is more generally appealing than the previous two, but the series sales have never been out of this world high. They were all successful and easily made their money back with some profit on top. But it doesn’t have the mass market appeal of God of War or Horizon. Ratchet has a very dedicated fan base, but that’s it.

So I’m thinking Sony felt that they had to price their big hitting 1st tier games the same.

All of that could have been avoided had they either priced every version of the cross Gen games at 70 or better yet, simply priced all PS5 games at 60 until 2023, when cross-Gen will be finished and people would have been more accepting of a price hike for games that literally couldn’t be done on the PS4 family.

@johnny30 "plus it's annoying as ps4 upgrade keeps downloading the os4 version than ps5"

Not in the slightest bit true.

@TheRedComet yeah they likely didn't want to set a precedent of £60 for new games, but in this situation it was just really silly.

@MattBoothDev very true I have, since many games like assassins creed valhalla, ff14 etc that keep downloading the ps4 version when I insert the disk

I was going to buy ps5 version then I noticed ps4 10 quid cheaper and free upgrade ps5 version should of been same price just Sony being robbing bawbags.

Stunning game though 👌

This is the first ps5 game I have got a launch here in the uk the ps4 version is around 60 pounds give or take. I payed 60 for the ps5 version from base.com so I don't mind but at the end of the day each to there own . But like most on here I'd want the ps5 case for my shelf lol lol

@Ralizah
It was never going anywhere anyway that's why I wait to buy my games

Of the 70%, I'm sure some are just supporting a great dev team, some are probably parents(or others) buying a gift and doesn't know better, and some probably just want to see the world burn. Regardless, not my money, spend it however you'd like.

@TheRedComet I remember paying $71+(after taxes) for super contra: alien wars on snes. Not easy as a child. That was five lawns and a birthday, back then.

Far Cry 6 needs a collectors edition CD gun replica. The ammunition supplied is useless without it

@MattBoothDev Oh well, either way you have to download something, that was my point.

@get2sammyb
‘There are no real advantages to buying the £69.99 physical PS5 edition, aside from some minor changes to the labelling on the boxart.’

That sounds like a narrow minded view. The reality is buying the PS4 disc in view of upgrading to the PS5 version strait away is the actual equivalent to buying a digital game from the store with the awkward flaw to need a PS4 disc inserted to play the game. It’s non sense.
People buy discs for a reason or they would buy digital. Or did you forget why discs with no heavy DRM made PS4 reveal popular?

@munstre I know, right? You pick your price, you choose to pay or not pay.

Me, I bought it for £39 off the Turkish PSN store (which I do for most games) so even people who crow about physical being cheaper than digital can do one so far as that's concerned.

But if I didn't know how to do that or didn't want to do that, I'd suck it up and pay more. Or not.

Why do people whine so lol

@nessisonett Regarding the energy prices, there's not less wealth in the world. It's just been reallocated upwards. I think people need to take a stand in this situation as opposed to getting used to 'just living with less'. The concept of living with less' is wholesome, but not when it's forced.

I wanted the special edition anyway, so paid more for a better quality box.

Right now base.com are selling the disc version of horizon on PS5 for £60.85.

I’m just about to get shafted up the bottom by the UK government tax increases, energy bill increases etc etc about £110/£150 per month minimum, every month of the year.
A one off £10 extra for HFW on PS5 is absolutely nothing compared to those increases.

@KayOL77 What are you supposed to do though? If you stop paying the energy prices then you freeze. There’s only so much you can save buying crap cheap food before your health suffers. When working people are stretched that far, there’s nowhere to go.

@Grumblevolcano Exactly this for me. I'm enjoying the game but it's not one I would typically have bought at launch, but it was either PS5 bundled with HFW or not knowing when the next time I could pick up a PS5 at retail price will be. Both Game and Very were doing these bundles and will account for a decent chunk of sales I imagine.

honestly , i'm surprised it was this long b4 games went up in price. they cost more then ever to make , and people keep expecting games to get better and bigger and improve. but they don't want to pay more money for those games. not to mention some people just want that ps5 box in their collection.

I bought the ps5 version because I wanted the Steelbook case

Many assumptions in this article. Lower sales assumed to be caused by digital sales with no source. Maybe sales are down overall?
Assumed that ps4 sales are lower cause everyone that bought must also have a ps4.

So, i must say the data does not allow such conclusions to be drawn. But it's interesting speculation.

@get2sammyb
Sure. I think the price is a fair discussion but some people simply don’t have the choice with unreliable internet.
PS5 disc has also more value in the long term so it’s not like there ‘no reason’ to own a PS5 disc with the game on the disc.

@AdamNovice
Exactly. I got the feeling it was telling people they are daft haha

Well i bought the ps5 regalla collectors edition on ps5 and despite half the add ons you get is quite useless, the disappointing thing is the statue is rather small and not very well designed, the previous thunderjaw statue was way better. I dont understand why the game is being bombed, i rather like it. I guess its easier to to ridicule a game and bring it down than rather express positivity you get more views that way the day and age we live in bring back the simple magazine reviews

Installing off a disc is way faster than the 4 hour download I had to go through to download the PS5 upgrade. I actually regret buying the PS4 version. Whenever I want to play it in the future after uninstalling it, I'll have another 4 hour wait. All to save £10 which is basically the price of 2 pints or half a Domino's pizza.

because no one cares ! 10 dollars is really not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things.
I bought the ps5 version just because i didnt want to see a ps4 and ps5 version on my home screen every time i turn on the console. its really not as big a deal for the average person as the internet has been making it out to be.

By the time I get a PS5, the physical copy will be $20 MSRP. Woo!

Tesco is selling the game 60 quid, it only 5 quid more than the PS4 version. An I choose it because their was no PS4 in stock, an I suspect many people found the same. Sony said it would be a free upgrade they didn't say they would make it easy to get hold off for the first few weeks.

In the UK we pay too much for PS5 games anyway.
They rip us off bad here

I think it underscores the fact that a lot of the complaining about the price hike this generation was a vocal minority. None of us want to pay more than we have to, but obviously people aren’t that bothered by it. If anything, this encourages Sony and shows they were reasonable when they debuted games at the higher price point this generation.

@nessisonett You know you can turn that dont you in the options.

You know whats stupid people the Walhalla upgrade a code in a box. 🤪

I imagine that a majority of those buyers didn’t even know they were getting ripped off. I hope this comes back to bite Sony in the a**.

As I’ve stated in the past, and proven correct by all these comments, customers are to blame for all of the bulls*** dirtbag issues we have to deal with in gaming.

I went with the ps5 physical version as I wanted to stick it with the rest of my ps5 games instead of my ps4 games. Plus I got it for £54 which is a nice

@Flaming_Kaiser Yeah, the surfaces are spray painted yellow regardless. The option in the menu just permanently highlights the free climb sections like you see through your focus.

The day may come when we’re all forced to buy digital copies of our most favourite games.

To keep your best titles in a physical collection forever for the cost of £69.99, it’s expensive initially of course, but in the long run it sits just fine with me.

For February I'm almost at my Xfinity cap and already had a grace month. The PS4 version would cost me $10 also

@get2sammyb

I’m sure most people who chose the PS5 version did so not realising the PS4 version would be effectively the same but cheaper.
Your comment suggests you think so, but your article says the British public voted with their wallet and wanted to pay more. I’m from New Zealand so somewhat disconnected from the British situation can you clarify what you mean? Do you really believe that 70% of British consumers if they had the situation clearly explained to them would vote with their wallets and choose to pay more?

@JJ2 i agree with all your points raised..some people have naff tinternet speed so downloading the game is a turn off..some people want the ps5 logo on their boxes (whats wrong with that?) Some people are happy to pay £70 a game and most myself included think that £70 is £20 too much so i'll wait for a drop in price..i dont agree with the apparant gamer shamer attitude either as its down to the individual..isnt it?

another point is with the just the ps5 version you dont get annoyed by it constantly wanting to install the ps4 version as well every time

@trev666 see this is an issue i just dont seem to have..when i installed the ps5 upgrades for doom eternal and jedi fallen order i just deleted the ps4 versions..i uninstalled doom eternal but recently redownloaded the ps5 version so my friend could have a butchers but even though i still have to insert the ps4 disc it dosnt try to install the ps4 version..neither does jedi..

@Northern_munkey ”i dont agree with the apparant gamer shamer attitude either as its down to the individual..isnt it?”

Couldn’t agree more. £70 to one person means something very different to another.

Why tf do you care?

@SoulChimera speaking of box art..i love the horace goes skiing pic..brings back long lost,very fond distant memories of when i was 12 years old..

@Northern_munkey Yep. Some of the box arts back in the day were amazing. Really nostalgic to look through them all.

No, they did not. I wanted a physical disc version for PS5 as I do not do digital games.

Also more criminal is that the shops that sell games upped the price of the PS4 version to be close to PS5.

Where I purchased my copy I paid £61 PS5 disc. The same shop put the PS4 version to £56... I paid £38 disc for Zero Dawn at its launch.

Shops exploited the prices of the PS4 version to be near PS5 when they heard about the free upgrade.

However you look at it. £60 or £70 is disgusting for a video game on PS5. I never paid more than £40 on PS4.

Elden Ring is costing me £42 on PS5 disc.....

Sony should be brought down for this pricing on PS5. Don't except it.

I was well aware about the free upgrade from the PS4 version, but still ended up buying the PS5 version lol... and I bought digitally. Convenience I suppose. 10$ more to the developer and that's perfectly fine. Besides, I'm 40 years old and grew buying SNES games for as much as $120, so tbh I'm shocked the price increase on AAA games didn't come sooner.

I refuse to pay £70 out of principle, but managed to snag the ps5 version for £60. Also happy to have the ps5 box on my shelf, figure if might also have a higher resell value if I ever get rid of it.

@Mezzer A few thing seems to be forgotten by a big group who want to keep their goggels on.

• A game €60 starts with several editions - gold, seasonpasses before has even been released. (dont start with collectors editions or deluxe because they are with stuff thats not needed for a full experience)
• Monetization from boosters, to costumes, packs of whatever. With Ubisoft i always get nervous when i see a full ingame tab for currency, costume packs its sickening to see that in a fully priced game.
• Show me one game thats you can get complete thats not more then a decade old.

Bought the special edition for £79.99. Zero Dawn is my top game of all time so it was a no brainer for me. Would've preferred closer to £60 though.

Can’t believe there are people who did it in this community, after all the warning signs. They’ll be part of the downfall of gaming, continually excusing egregious practices because “it’s only £10”. When games start costing £100, they’ll say “well that’s what they used to cost”. For a bunch of enthusiasts, they don’t really care about the state of gaming as an industry, as long as their box art matches up.

@havoc33 Thats why im happy they release games like Zombies ate my Neighbours it beats paying a ton of extra. How cool would it be to get a boxed copy of something like Super Metriod on a Switch.

@Northern_munkey
Thank you. Yes there can be many fair reasons why someone choose the PS5 version on disc. Personally and as a principle (apart from exceptions like GT7) from a consumer attitude I like to have a game that is actually on the disc and playable without relying on servers that I can easily share with friends.
Also doesn’t the PS4 version have two discs in the box?
It’s yet again another reason to prefer a single high capacity disc much more convenient. I also wonder about one of the advantage of having discs like the ease to delete and reinstall a game at your convenience to save SSD space.
And yes your right, discs can be found cheaper and at the ‘right’ price for anyone eventually.

Bought the PS4 disc for just over £50. Upgraded to PS5. Everyone I start up the PS5 it starts to try and install the PS4 version. Delete icon and repeat/rinse. I wish I'd paid the extra £10 I can afford it and my OCD would be better.

Point is Sony dropped the upgrade fee for the hard core that visit and complain on gaming sites not for the Joe public everyday consumer. But their upgrade path is awful, clunky and from what I hear from Xboxland vastly inferior.

There was good deals for the PS5 version so that nobody was paying £70 for it. Also the ratio of sales just makes me think they wasted a good exclusive on cross platform thinking PS4 had the bigger market.
The game is amazing and the detail in the PS5 version is incredible.

Slightly inaccurate article seeing as it depends where you bought the game. I picked up a Ps5 copy from my local Tesco for £60

I had a bunch of points with my Game Collection account, so got the PS5 version of Horizon for £50. Fine with that.
Like @JJ2 I prefer to have a game on disc.
i'm still a stickler for physical media ownership. I still buy 4K Bluray movies, so didn't want my PS5 version of HFW to completely be a digital download.

Certainly PS games are typically not cheap. But the question is whether Horizon Forbidden West is not worth 70 EUR / .... or whether the PS4 version is a "bargain".

Compared to other games which were sold for 10 EUR / ... less, the consumer seems to get here quite a high production value and a lot of game. Also, the PS5 disc provides the PS5 version without a network connection, I believe, where the PS4 disc version just contains the key, and only provides the PS4 version without network. So, the consumer gets more value. Sure the digital PS5 version does not provide any extra value. It is more like a digital delux edition (as already mentioned) ... .

@ApostateMage
Ah man that made me laugh so much but yet I feel for you 👀

I had vouchers so got the ps5 version for 2 quid, nice one!

I bought PS5 version because I want to support this great studio to deliver games like Horizon in the future. It is a huge work to create a game like this so I appreciate all that work. 🙂😁...can't wait to go home from work and dive into Horizon's amazing world.

I am GLAD people didn't listen to gaming sites and not buy the PS5 version

My bank decided to get involved on the app and reminded me i need to change my phone number lol. So i payed £70 and I don't feel ripped off!

The level of detail on ps5 is insane. This is top quality gaming and when you think of thousands of people putting hundreds of thousands of hours in to making it, £70 doesn't seem so bad.

Plus, if WE don't pay full whack, YOU wont get another one to wait for in a sale... At least that's what I've been told on here...

@AhmadSumadi Yeah exactly. I did it that way, because I thought I will play it on PS4. I then got PS5 and realized, I have free upgrade. But spending 10 bucks more is no problem for great work developers did. They deserve it.

@Octane you do anyway, right? Not many games release without a day one patch these days, when installing from the disc.

@johnny30 yeah that's fair. I only put in the play disc for Horizon FW, which may have influenced that. I suspect the data disc might trigger an install.

@Muttt that exactly why I bought the ps5 version and it only an 3 56

I say let people pay what they want and get over it 🤷🏻‍♂️

I paid £32 on the Turkish PSN Store.

@nessisonett I know bud. I really don't know what should be done, but the old adage of giving an inch and them taking a mile is accurate I think.

So people are spending their money as they want (like me)

I found the PS5 version for £61. Its still sealed (still far too much fun with FC6!)

@MattBoothDev You don't have to install the day one patch though. The game is perfectly playable without it.

@Octane yeah, but, I mean, how often will you do that?

I couldn't play immediately anyway, I had work. I set it off downloading and by 5pm it had long finished, in time to have a play!

You do you, don't feel like you have to justify why you got the PS5 box. I nearly did until Wednesday last week when I saw a £20 difference. I personally was ok with £10, but £20 is £20!

@MattBoothDev I don't know. Maybe when the servers are shut down twenty years from now, I can still play it on my PS5 without having to download anything.

They shouldn't have upgraded the PS4 version for free and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Some won't be happy until every game is FTP and stuffed full of MTXs and NFTs and Season Passes. Or cost max of £40 and last for five hours.

🙄

This article sucks.

@Octane yeah that's a good point. This is why I buy physical games most of the time, alongside the vastly cheaper pricing.

I still have my PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4, with all the games I've bought over the years.

I'll likely buy forbidden west second hand at some point for the PS5.

Only one reason I bought the physical PS5 version and that's because when I've finished playing it I'll trade it in/sell it and that version is worth more.

@Col_McCafferty was that a sly dig at Destiny 2 there ? 🤣🤣

I didn't buy the game yet (just bought Witch Queen, so that's my big game purchase for a while), but I want to get the PS5 version digitally. Maybe I'm cynical or maybe it's because I have been around the block a bit, but I suspect shenanigans in the future. Maybe when the PS7 comes out, it won't support PS4 games, but will support PS5 games or maybe PS5 games will get some fancy new features, but PS4 games will not. Stuff like that.

I'm a bit backed up with games right now. Especially with Elden Ring dropping next week. I'll pick Forbidden West up after the hype has died down. I didn't play Zero Dawn until it was available in the 'Playstation Hit's' range, so no rush.

Probably mentioned by a few others, but a collector would pay the extra 10 to get the PS5 version on physical disc for... posterity? Future server shutdowns?

It feels like a reach. But yeah. We collectors are not reasonable people. I bought a copy of Psychonauts on PS2 for $50 today... and I already own the (better) digital version on PS4, which can be had for $5 during sales.

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

I'm a little confused.. I put the ps4 disc in and selected Ps5 version. I didn't have to install any of the ps4 version.

@get2sammyb Yes, but at the same time, a lot of people are being disingenuous here. Sony never promised to make the PS5 version the same price as the PS4 version. Jim Ryan had to be held to his word, which was that there would be no upgrade fee from PS4 to PS5. If people buy the PS5 version they obviously have the money or they would have stuck with the PS4. Then for people like us who are in the know, they can get their discount. I've never thought to complain about an ignorant person being overcharged unless it were for something more essential like housing or healthcare.
I bought the PS4 version of Cyberpunk in the sales for when I get a PS5 and the free upgrade. It feels like daylight robbery really, but they decided that for themselves. In general, we should try to retain value for quality items lest the PS store becomes the Apple store.

@Max_the_German Did you get hold of a PS5 in Germany? I try MediaMarkt every morning, but there is never any stock.

@nessisonett It's a free upgrade from PS4, not a price match. Extra work and features go into the PS5 version, so it's worth the money really. I don't buy games until they go on sale just because I don't have much time to play games and I would rather wait at least 6 months for the games to run well and if the business model is to reduce the prices after 6 months, I might as well pay less.

@BRT15 It's a free upgrade path so from PS4 to PS5, you buy it for the price on PS4 and upgrade it to PS5 or you buy it for the PS5 price. There is nothing wrong with it at all. Of course, we can applaud other companies for providing a free upgrade, but we don't need to shame a company for not giving away something for free.

@Apfelschteiner Sony had two options after their 'Non-Upgrade Path' U-turn last year:

Option 1: have an upgrade path from PS4 to PS5 which costs 10€, if you've purchased it on last gen.

Option 2: charge the same price for both PS4 and PS5 versions

Instead they went for a middle ground of both options offering a free upgrade for PS4 owners and charging more for the PS5 version at the same time. The lack of clarity in their marketing caused this consumer confusion and has obviously worked in their favour.

As a PS5 owner, you're essentially paying a 10€ premium for the same product. And that is not Sony just "not giving away something for free", but selling one product with 2 different prices on the same storefront. This, deserves to be called out.

I landed nicely won a £25 asda gift card from work bought ps4 version as my little brother still on ps4 so we share games I got ps5 upgrade he gets 2 play it and I spent 30 quid n the price of 2 red bull 4 the walk there and back 😀 😉

@BRT15 I hear you. The PS5 version is a superior product though. In the long term I think it's more important for Sony to stick with their price increase for PS5 games even if they are cross gen. It have been done before. Only clued in gamers really care.

@Grimwood why you so mad about what people do with their money lol

@Apfelschteiner Got my PS5 via Amazon at launch day in 2020. 5 hours of waiting, and then open for 2 minutes.

@Max_the_German I decided that I wouldn't make an extra effort. I feel like I should just be able to order one on MediaMarkt some time. The only person I know just saw one on a shelf when he was buying something else in Saturn.