Sony has finally given its new PS Plus tiers a proper reveal, and the overhauled service is starting to sound quite enticing. However, it's worth noting that, at the time of writing this article, there's been no mention of classic PS1 and PSP titles having Trophy support. Obviously that's not confirmation, but it does strongly suggest that you won't be able to earn digital trinkets through PS Plus Premium's retro catalogue.
A lack of Trophies wouldn't come as a huge surprise — it would probably require a lot more cooperation between Sony and its third party partners for a start — but some will still find this potential news a bit disappointing.
Some PS1 and PSP titles will offer additional functionality in the form of save states and rewind, though, which is a lot better than nothing. Improved performance is also promised for select games.
As for PS2 games, we don't know yet. Sony hasn't actually confirmed any PS2 titles beyond its remastered PS2 classics range from the PS4 generation — and all of those games already had Trophy support.
Did you expect PS Plus Premium's old school offerings to have Trophies? Boast about your collection in the comments section below.
[source blog.playstation.com]
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Trophy support was always a pipe dream imo
Then it’s a no go for me. Playing old games again with Zero additional challenges? No thanks. Huge missed opportunity to bring old games to life again (and get me as a premium member).
Y'all always shooting for the moon and not reaching the stars. Pipe dream like mango said.
However, they did say you can earn trophies in the 2 hour game trials. It's gonna be a race to speedrun every game with a trial!
If cash grab 1 minute platinum games can get trophy support, ps1/psp games can get it too, isn't that hard.
It's a shame but it's to be expected. I'm just happy they added in rewind and save states, that's the big one for me.
It would had been an insane job, you'll have to have a team to study the games and work out the trophies.
Paying someone where the reward for Sony will be losing money on wages.
Totally understand.
Would've been nice but I'm just glad I'll be able to play some older titles that I had not yet had the chance to play.
Trophies are just a low priority to me.
@eltomo Yeah it must be a huge hassle, and I'm pretty sure it's the reason why the PS2 games on PS4 never got close to the library on PS3.
Frankly, it's not a big issue imo. Trophies can be nice, but there's nothing wrong with playing a game for the sake of enjoying it, without increasing an honestly meaningless number on your account.
What's the point then?
Could just buy a One S and emulate these games legally without the stupid subscription upgrade.
I understand the reasons they are lacking.
But I'm still understandably devastated.
I really wanted it, but I knew it would be very difficult to happen anyway.
Well that makes my decision that ill be staying on my basic Essentials account for good.
Trophy support would've been nice,but rewind &/or save states are a definite positive.
Not happening. Sony would have announced it as part of today's PR
I’m not expecting trophies, but I hope the initial selection is good. Not too impressed with the PS1 games they’ve announced so far. The PlayStation Classic was proof that Sony have no clue when it comes to a good selection of games.
It’ll be interesting to see if you’ll be able to take screenshots or stream these games. Or if it’ll restrict it, like it does when streaming PS3 games on PlayStation Now.
No Trophies, no play. Sorry guys, that's simply the degree to which my brain has rotted.
Couldn’t care less, but I can imagine it blows for all trophy hunter out there.
It would have been nice but who would have added them. I assume the save state and rewind are in the emulator so don’t need work on the games.
However without them they lack point to me, I’ll just play them on my vita.
RetroAchievements exists if you want trophies for PS1 and PSP games!
Yeah they probably would have mentioned if PSOne, PSP games had trophy support in this news blast. This makes me way less interested in the higher priced tiers. Plus I get to download the PS Classics I've already bought that are offered.
There was no chance this would ever be added. It would require patches for each of the old games and significant testing etc.
Far better off putting that effort elsewhere.
@BoldAndBrash That is the way to go if you own the games, and I mean, if you wanted play an older game that you love, you probably own a license for it in some shape on some platform.
With how accessible emulation is, this all seems too little to late for Sony on their PS Premium package.
Trophy support would have given this the edge it needed, but as many people have said before...long shot, pipe dream, it no happun.
Sucks. Oh well.
I was already certain it wasn't going to happen. Sony's dictionary is so old that the merits and meanings of the word 'effort' hadn't been printed yet.
I believe a few years ago sony made a patent for a system where they could integrate trophies for games that didnt have them.
Sony files a multitude of patents each year but maybe, just maybe this comes through.
I wont hold my breath though..
@Ashkorsair That was the one they used for the PS2 rereleases, problem was it took too long to get games out, plus the games weren't selling enough to make it worthwhile for Sony.
Yeah I didn't expect any of them to have trophies. That might be more work than it's worth.
I’m not surprised at all.
Not a surprise. MS never added achievements to original Xbox games that could be played through backwards compatibility, I wouldn't expect the same here.
@BoldAndBrash Playing games you like or letting people experience the older titles?
I have a SNES at home whats the use of playing them they have no trophies the same goes for the Switch.
Titles that get a lot of play time might be revived.
It's a no for me then. Hearing that PS1 games could be getting trophies gave me the goal of wanting to either 100% or, better still, Platinum them all. Don't care too much for trophies now but that would have been a list worth pursuing. Missed opportunity Sony, again.
Sad again. This would be the feature that would make me play and complete the older games. Without trophies I will probably start most games, play 30 minutes, delete them...with my limited game time and with the fact that I enjoy getting trophies (makes me move on when I get plat) I was expecting this feature. But yeah, expected!
As a big trophy collecting weirdo I’m fine with this because I like playing games a lot more than collecting trophies.
Won't be wasting my money on this crap then. What good is nostalgia without reward.
No trophies = no sale.
Haven't bought a single Nintendo console since 2005 for the same reason.
I had some sliver of hope that they would include them, but it is what it is. I bought 1 years worth of PS now before they shut that off so I'll enjoy premium until then. We'll see if I end up resubbing to it next year.
I'm a little bummed but it's whatever honestly.
Really wanted retroactively added trophy support but obviously was always unrealistic. However, a big reason Xbox backwards vcompatibility is so amazing is because they were able to tweak a lot of games to really take advantage of the newer console power. If they do that then it's great, otherwise it's a massively missed opportunity
@Resi32 and this here be the problem. As a former trophy/achievement addict… i realised eventually that they were adding nothing to a game and only hampering my ability to enjoy them. I’d play games long after they outstayed their welcome, i was following not the game but the order of digital trinkets… so i let go. And i enjoy games much more again.
It would be cool & maybe? easy to do if they could just do say if you play the game for 1 hour a Trophy would unlock & then 2 hours in another one would unlock etc etc for each PS1/2/PSP game??? It sounds easy to do
Shame about possibly no trophies, but not the end of the world for me personally!
I will still happily be using the service to play some older games.
I never understand the appeal of getting trophies. I don't even care with the trophies.
Some peoples just like to show off their achievements like I don't even care which trophies I will get since trophies will not giving me something physical rewards in return.
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