Rockstar has put development of remasters of Red Dead Redemption and Grand Theft Auto IV on ice according to a new report from Kotaku. This is so the developer can put all of its efforts into Grand Theft Auto 6. Rumours of such a move had been swirling over the past couple of days because of a tweet from a supposedly reliable Rockstar insider, but Kotaku has offered a much more concrete and reliable statement after talking to its own sources.
The two projects have apparently also been shelved due to the poor reception the GTA Trilogy: The Definitive Edition received at launch last year. Packed full of bugs and glitches at release, we awarded the PS5 version a 5/10, calling it "a stain on Rockstar's record". Because of this extremely negative critical reception along with poor feedback from consumers, the company is hoping everyone simply forgets about the remastered collection as it focuses on GTA 6.
However, Kotaku's sources state Rockstar hasn't entirely ruled out the possibility of returning to the two remasters at a later stage. The company could restart development, but this won't happen until GTA 6 releases. And god knows when that'll happen. One leaker said we could we waiting until 2025!
According to the website, the possibility of future remasters from Rockstar depended heavily on the sales and reception of GTA Trilogy: The Definitive Edition. While one company executive said the collection did "just great", this doesn't seem to have been enough to greenlight the return of GTA 4 and Red Dead Redemption.
For now, you can stream Red Dead Redemption with a PS Plus Premium membership, but GTA 4 is lost to time. How do you react to this news? Share your thoughts in the comments below.
[source kotaku.com]
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Remasters are fine, but at the end of the day we want new stuff.
Too bad for gta4, loved the feel of cars, bikes in it.
Red Dead Redemption being remade within RDR2 just seems like a no-brainer. Which is why it’ll never happen.
If the GTA trilogy did well, they'd probably just offload all remasters to Grove Street Games. Since they can't be trusted to deliver a quality product, now Rockstar would either need to do it themselves or shop around for someone else. Makes sense that they'd prioritize their staff for GTA6 which will make mega yacht loads more cash than some remasters.
They either make the greatest game ever with GTA6 or fans will be ready with the pitchforks. 10 years for another GTA is just...oof
Finally some dam common sense and focusing on a new game and one new game for the most of the studio to focus on.
Am I dreaming. 😂
They should do the RDR1 and GTA4 in the 1st place, GTA6, then..the trilogy..
I think it will makes the trilogy sell better than now…and rockstar will earn huge load of money before the trilogy hit the shelve.
If the GTA Trilogy Remasters weren’t garbage maybe they would have been better received. If they fix them up I’ll be interested.
I’d definitely pony up for a Red Dead Redemption remaster, GTA IV remaster, or a graphical remake of Red Dead Revolver. I’d also be willing to fork out $20 or so for a native PS5 version of RDR2 and I think I’d actually like these before a GTA 6 because I don’t trust them to keep the quality of a new game up with the recent writer exodus
swap out red dead redemption remaster for midnight club LA remaster . we already have a playable Red Dead/GTA on modern hardware , can we at least get a ***** midnight club game ?
This is ridiculous and surely can't be true. They did a bad job on those previous remasters, but that doesn't mean people don't want to play them. They just demand Rockstar treat them with care!
Have a small contingent work on an ps5/xbsx upgrade patch. I mean having 100% of the workforce on gta vi won't have it come out next year.
Disappointing. But we can at least be grateful they aren’t allowing Grove Street Games anywhere near these classics. Their demaster of the GTA Trilogy was a disaster.
@Shstrick the future of GTA (6) is absolutely terrifying . an exodus of writers and in the 2020s - yikes
Gta 6 doesn't exist all the gta people have left rockstar it's a different company now. The next game from them will be online only. No more single player games. The next gta is years away & I'm 35 so I won't even be playing video games by the time it comes out! For that reason I couldn't care less. You can't get excited about games that are 4 or 5 years away! Who knows if we will even be around by then with the way the world is going. I really do believe we have played the last gta game in gta v
You can play red dead 1 on xbox series x in 4k it's amazing. It's also an absolute joke the 4k red dead isn't on ps5
Why not pass remasters off to a company like blue point? It beyond ridiculous that we need to wait 10-14 years between gta games. Almost makes me not want to support it on release.
All I want is a 60fps patch for RDR2/RDO. Still excited for GTA6 though.
I really miss when Rockstar was capable of releasing a steady stream of higher quality games. Now, they released ONE new title in 9 years….
I would be happy if they scaled back on the scale of their games if they were able to release games more often. I am all for smaller high quality games.
This is what's wrong with publishers nowadays. They release a crappy product and sell it for $60. It gets critically panned and is despised by customers - rightfully so - who wanted to purchase a working, worthwhile product. What did they learn? To release higher quality products? Oh, no! Just don't release the same BS because you won't get away with it again.
If the release was actually good then it would have been received better dumbas*es. It's not like they didn't sell well either. By now they should know that anything they slap their name on will sell well so I see this as BS reasoning.
If they were going to be given to Grove street games then I'll take this as good news, it means moving forward they plan on doing remasters themselves or be given to a studio with talent.
@Ryany They really dropped the ball on the PS3 compatability
Made up for it with some good games though
And still no love for Bully. 😭
So I guess that means a Bully remaster was never in the works after all
@shonenjump86 Tom Henderson is a freakin liar , man…😭
This sucks so bad wow
@Ryany the next game is not online only so don’t spread misinformation
So they put everything on hold just to get GTA6 done...
But what if that sucks, runs like crap, or is just a 'Games as Service' treadmill?
I'm surprised they don't want to diversify their lineup more as an insurance policy.
What a ridiculous statement. So because they completely half assed the GTA trilogy remaster, that means that potential GTA 4/Red Dead remasters wouldn't be well received? Maybe if you actually put some time and effort into them, then they wouldn't be well received. It's not the principle of a remaster that wasn't well received, it was the execution.
I do hope GTA 6 is worth the wait.
No biggie. I played RDR on XSX in 4K and it looked glorious. As for GTA4 it still looks decent and I recently bought the complete edition on PS3, so I'm good.
@get2sammyb Agreed. I find it ridiculous that a studio with the bank balance of Rockstar couldn't have found a way to get these games out. Whether internally or externally, they would have had multimillion sellers with both. If proper care had been taken they could have pleased a lot of people and erased the memory of the 'shoddy at launch' trilogy.
Let's have something new please, though i have big reservations about gta 6 at this stage. I don't even see how you can parody America in the old "louis theroux weird weekend" way anymore, it's just to fubar to even satire any of it.
Well we all know why rockstar are focusing on GTA 6, the love for live services are hard to pass up for them, I don't even expect a single player experience in the next game at all tbh
Shame.
GTA IV is the best GTA for me.
They could've easily outsourced it to a 3rd party dev though... NOT EX MOBILE DEVS FOR THAT MATTER, but actual competent devs
im hoping offline campaign not interested in online.
Just patch RDR2 to run at 60fps on PS5 and forget a remaster. Hell, package with some DLC and slap £9.99 and 45M customers will byte 👍🏻
@nomither6 Say it louder for the people at the back!!!
I'd imagine this means the plan was to have Grove Street Games be the unofficial remaster studio for Rockstar until the trilogy remaster happened. I would say this is probably for the best after that debacle. I still can't believe that happened.
As for GTA6 it's going to be really interesting to see how they handle it. There's plenty of material out there for them to tackle as long as they are okay with unavoidably upsetting some folks. The question is are they okay with that? Old school Rockstar I could see not caring one bit. Current day Rockstar? We will see.
Disappointing news. I would have bought GTA Trilogy in a heartbeat if it hadn't been a mess.
I would really like to see Red Dead Redemption being remastered or remade to look more like Red Dead Redemption 2 (similar to the Last of Us remake). And would most certainly throw my money at it again. It's their own fault for messing up the GTA trilogy so if they want my money then not releasing it as a mess would be a great start
Would have loved a remaster of Gta IV. That game was way ahead of its time and has the best story and characters in a Gta game to boot.
Take your time rockstar.gta 6 is gonna be a masterpiece.word up son
It should've been their focus right after GTA V first came out
@Ryany Thanks. Can I get next weeks Lotto numbers please?
@dark_knightmare2 you will see
I get they want to concentrate on GTA 6 that’s fine but if they’ve shelved RDR1 due to the poor reception of the mess that was last years remaster then that’s a real shame. In other words it was a poor reception as the game was broken not because we didn’t want it.
Hate to be that guy but why are people hyped for yet another generic open world game?
It's not going be an RPG, nor will it have a compelling story. Rockstar should focus on bringing a fresh IP with RPG elements, instead of rehashing old stuff.
We can look forward to another 15 years of people buying the same 12 hour game 6 times each!
Taking away the wrong lessons from a failure is par for the course over in the games industry.
Imagine being so clueless, so lacking in self criticism, and so arrogant, that you can burn someone's steak, and conclude they don't like steak when they complain about it.
@Richnj Sadly it's not just gaming. It's the entirety of the modern "educated" data-driven world. From government to medicine, to finance, to video games, determining people don't like steak after they complained about a burned one is the entire driving force of all thinking in the modern world. I'm not sure how long it will be before that gets fixed, but I do know discovering electricity won't happen for another 300 years after.
@Mad001 hah, good luck with that
i wasn't too big on red dead 1 so this does not bother me... it is good to see that rockstar will focus entirely on gta 6 though, even if it is likely 3-5 years away.
@Amusei the floaty controls are the only downside of it
@NEStalgia ps5-ps20 😏😏🤣🤣🤣
I’d be worried they’d handed them off to a contracted team rather than internal Rockstar North etc.
They didn’t treat the OG trilogy with any care, why would they should GTA IV and RDR the same.
GTA IV deserves the treatment too, criminally overlooked GTA game.
They did such an awful job with the remasters and frankly Rockstar have been irrelevant to my gaming for virtually a decade. Back on the PS2 GTA3 and Vice City were amongst my favourite games as was Red Dead Redemption on the PS3. GTAV was good but I didn't like Red Dead Redemption 2 as the controls are pretty awful and I can't say I'm bothered about GTA 6
I am genuinely shocked that anyone is whining over them not pushing out another cash grab remaster. Theirs, and nearly every remaster or remaster falsely stated to be a remake has been pretty terrible.
The direction toward cashing in on reselling old content by the industry as a whole is literally destroying creative new content.
Coming from Rockstar, a developer who started off with such promise only to fall into reselling the same tired content for over a decade with this IP alone, it should be at least mildly encouraging they are finally going to actually create something new rather than rely on the gullible to re purchase old.
@Dezzy70 I know how much you keep preaching studios work on one game, and how it does make sense for some studios, but Rockstar should easily be big enough to handle a remaster on the side along with GTA 6 and not cost any quality or time. Although, knowing Rockstar, they would probably just put an ad on Craigslist and hire the first person to respond (like the GTA Trilogy release came off as).
So, maybe in the end it's for the best, but it's still disappointing that they continue to treat Red Dead Redemption like it's almost irrelevant as a series. I'd even argue that the original is better than the sequel anyways since at least I didn't have to do so many mundane things in the original. It deserved a proper remaster (or even just a damn PS4 version), but alas, it's the second class citizen of their catalog. Can't even play it on a PlayStation unless you have a PS3.
@huyi I liked it actually. I much prefer it over V's more arcadey feel. Also I don't like how you can just flip over any car in V. IV's "realism" suited me much better.
@KilloWertz
Yeah I know I did it for a bit of fun and not really aimed at Rockstar.
Been a strange first half of the year for gamers.
It had so much potential and started well
HFW,GT7, Kirby. then the delays begun.
BOTW2, Starfield and more.
Seems like it might be a quiet second half of the year AAA exclusive wise.
Maybe GOW2
Splatoon 3 September
I might even try the new Mario Rabbids game in October if it gets to quiet 😂
There are some third Party games but not sure about them yet, Harry Potter etc.
What??? Rockstar actually did something that fans want and isn’t totally self serving??? Am I in an alternate universe?
If they were going to remake them as lazily as the Trilogy Collection, then good riddance.
Ironically, they are the two Rockstar games I haven't finished so I was looking forward to potential remasters/remakes, but not lazy cash grabs.
@danzoEX I basically just gave up on Bully. Remake or sequel. It will always be a favorite game of mine though.
A relief honestly. I have zero experience in videogame development and somehow even I feel I could have done a better job at remastering the GTA Trilogy than Grove Street Games did. An embarrassing travesty if ever there was one.
@Amusei it's a love hate but eventually when you get the hang of it, it can be fun 😊
@get2sammyb Perhaps they were also cheap remasters and they shelved it because they realized they wouldn’t get away with it?
Or they just can’t read the room.
@Jeaz it’s crazy really when you think about it. You’d think given all the money they have accumulated from the GTA V gravy train, they would invest more into remastering their classic games than anyone else. But Rockstar have been coasting on GTA V’s popularity for years and putting very little back into the gaming community. Greed takes a grip of the best of us I suppose.
The single player or the inevitable 'gta online 2'
@shonenjump86 sigh… guess I’ll just keep playing Anniversary Edition on my phone
There was nothing wrong with doing remasters of GYA IV & RDR,(& RDR Nightmare too). The problem with GTA "Definitive Edition",was Take-Two offloading it to the decidedly amateur hour Grove Street Games & demanding a rush job & being too tight fisted on renewing the music licenses....after that embarrasing effort they need to rename themselves "the Ballers did it again" crew!🙄
Could've been a great opportunity for Sony to have engaged Bluepoint Games & secure a new gen remaster of RDR/Undead Nightmare as a PS5/PC timed exclusive given XB already has a playable version available to its users. It sucks that PS owners are locked out of both games with streaming the only option in select territories.
Unfortunately splashing the exclusives cash on GTA Online & RDR Online items (& maybe GTA 6 for all we know),was far too tempting to chase the live services $$!😔
@Bismarck both is better though both remasters and new games.
I think backwards compatibility should be the standard instead of all these cheap, overpriced remasters everywhere. Xbox has done a fantastic job on that front, with both resolution and frame rate boosts and very neat auto HDR. Sure, it requires some effort, but it beats remasters every time and is a massive win for both consumers and for game preservation. I won't sugar coat it, I hate remasters. Selling games again and again instead of offering actual cross generational features while shutting down and retiring the old classic systems and games to save a few cents on server costs ...it's so outdated, greedy and plain stupid in my opinion. Sony and Nintendo need to step up.
It's what ruins Hollywood now, too. People just want the nostalgia rush from rehashed, soulless garbage, instead of actual new actual art that evolves the medium.
If true, I think they made the right decision to focus on GTA 6. Loved the story mode in GTA 5 and I expect they will also deliver a good one in GTA6. Rockstar should know that it would ruin the online part of the game if they don't get the single player part of it right.
@nessisonett RDR1 remake would be amazing, but only if GTA 4 and Bully 1 also get the same treatment.
Ha I had to stop playing GTAV. It’s just what I expected for years I can’t get interested in the cringe characters and the story 🤷🏼♂️
Maybe I’ll go back to it when there’s more talk about GTA6. I feel they are so overrated. 😅
@JJ2 I both can and can't believe how popular it is. Gameplay is bland, the characters are, as you say, cringe. It's the mix of faux-edgy, pot jokes, and f-bombs-to-be-cool, that I'd totally expect it to be popular with the middle school and immature part of the high school crowd....but I can't explain it's popularity with anyone else. let alone for, now, 3 generations.....
The heists are well designed, but, there's only like 5 of them....
@huyi yes take 2 wants subscriptions loot crates could they be worse that e.a lol
@Bismarck and you getting New stuff stop acting like a 2 year old
@Shstrick they got patched now calm down gigi and stop going crazy
@Zombiechris Actually people that get excited for the same thing over and over again are acting like 2 year olds.
@Zombiechris
“They got patched now” - they’re still bad. Getting better, but still not great.
“calm down gigi and stop going crazy” - idk who “gigi” is supposed to be. Seems like you’re upset people don’t like the thing you like, so you’re resorting to name-calling. Very mature of you.
@Bismarck what sweetie?
Removed - trolling/baiting
@Mad001 EA is poison, but epic is on another level of unethical practic, ginuwine games need to take a stance of this rubbish, or next gen kids will be used to this exploitive future!
@huyi yea got disgraceful i dont even have an epic games launcher no interest in their free games lol
steam only on that side of things lol ea released all dragon age and mass effect dlcs for free go and snag em if you have the origin launcher on pc 👍
@Mad001 good! That is the best way to be, rockstar don't deserve anyone's money!
@huyi that's take2 pushed for online subscriptions early rockstar i like lol like early Metallica. i been playing their games since gta1 on the original playstation. loved the top down gameplay.
@Mad001 same, been playing their games since GTA 1 too, now they are a hollow husk of their original self now
yea no more funny as feck things in gta no more.
il never see Brucie flex his pecks in front of ttttttrevor! 😭😂🤣
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