In a move that's sure to shake the Gaming Nation to its very core, Sony has basically confirmed that it has plans for a PS6. This shocking revelation comes courtesy of a report from Sony to the UK's competition regulators, in which the Japanese giant continues to outline why it thinks Microsoft's yet-to-be-closed acquisition of Activision Blizzard is bad for the industry.
In said report, Sony writes: "Microsoft has offered to continue making Activision’s games available on PlayStation only until 2027 [...] Likewise, in public comments just on October 26, Microsoft said that it plans to offer Call of Duty on PlayStation only 'as long as that makes sense.' A period until 2027 – or some other (possibly shorter) time that Microsoft unilaterally determines 'makes sense' to Microsoft – is badly inadequate." It's safe to say that the PlayStation-maker's stance is clear.
And then we get to the good part: "By the time SIE launched the next generation of its PlayStation console (which is likely to occur around [REDCATED], it would have lost access to Call of Duty and other Activision titles, making it extremely vulnerable to consumer switching and subsequent degradation in its competitiveness."
Sony is using the launch of its next console as a way to highlight the problem it has with Microsoft's looming deal. Assuming it all goes through, and Call of Duty does eventually pass up PlayStation platforms, the presumed PS6 could end up launching without one of the biggest properties in gaming. Sony, as you'd expect, does not want this to happen.
And so there you go, our first very tentative mention of the PS6, which will, taking this document at face value, release at some point after 2027. Sounds about right.
[source assets.publishing.service.gov.uk, via twitter.com]
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My very core is shook
Isn't it crazy how all of these big studios expect COD to remain the biggest franchise until the end of time?
But I thought PS4 was for life and Sony don’t believe in Generation's
@Hindenburg To be fair, the new one is doing better than ever, so it's not really showing any signs of slowing down yet.
I bought my ps5 2 years ago. Still too hard to find for other people. What's the point of a PS5 when they will brag about all the sales to scalpers? This will be my last Playstation as I move towards PC gaming.
Sony need to get off this console argument and make it 100% clear that the danger is in MS developing a subscription monopoly.
So Sony have a 5 year window to produce a viable alternative to COD, that they can afford to make free to play and release on all platforms.
Or they can keep crying.
I know it's not as simple as that, but they have the option to try, personally i'm not a huge COD fan, i still play off-line split screen with my friend on Modern Warfare Remastered. The newer ones actually suck with Bots.
2027... I had hoped earlier, the ps5 is already starting to feel old considering the autumn's 30fps games... Hoping for a really powerful ps5 pro next year.
@Joabra01Swe If you are willing to spend $1000+ bucks on consoles in the span of a few years why don't you just buy a PC?
Another lie from Phil we will keep COD on Playstation as long its around he should go into politics Trump is hiring. Its quite clear they are going for the tried US way starving out the competition by buying up all the big properties.
@AstraeaV I think it's my favorite console fast loading everything looks great and tons of games who knows maybe it will surpass my favorite console the PS1.
@Hindenburg 7 years is hardly “a few years”. It’s almost a decade.
I'm so glad there will be a PS6, so happy.
@Flaming_Kaiser Thats all well and good, I like mine too. I dislike they are impossible for most to find. Not worth my time if can't be purchased instore day one. Also my Razer Laptop blows the speed and graphics of the PS5 away.
@AstraeaV I doubt it, unless your laptop has a 4090...
@Angelus3K PS5 end of 2020 and he wants to buy an even more expensive PS5 pro in 2023
@Joabra01Swe you will never get this fixed values. It will be the same topic over and over again nevertheless it’s an Ps5 Pro, Ps6, Ps6 Ultra or whatever Xbox. It often hurts to read this again and again that people have such a little understanding how game development works.
The shock to my core is that gaming has a lot to refocus on if I'll consider ever buying another system. As it stands, PS5 will be my last.
With a 10 tb SSD and a 120 ghz processor I presume.
COD is not the end all….crying out loud…Sony should have no problem creating an IP to compete…hell they could go back to SOCOM for that matter…it’s not hard…
Really ! Lots of people can't even get a PS5 yet and with PSVR2 coming out they should focus on that first and what they have.
By all means think about it but work hard of PS5 & Psvr2 first.
@Joabra01Swe agreed, i would for sure buy a PS5 Pro. Even if it just added better frame rates and ray tracing. They alone would bring it more in line with PC and not make a PS6 feel as needed as quickly. I believe we will see a Pro as it makes to much sense, the better question is when and what does the supply chain look like for such a product launch.
Shady Xbox is over there trying to create a monopoly of the video game industry, while poor Sony is fighting for the average consumer and trying to keep healthy competition in the console wars. Greedy Xbox should be embarrassed and ashamed of their actions! Thank God for Sony for saving video games!
Where my Vita 2?
People should no longer expect the cadence of the past when it comes to console generations. Microchips manufacturing have become increasingly more complex and thus pricier, to the point where this 8+year gap implied by the document makes a lot of sense. A shorter lifecycle would result in either an underpowered or overpriced product. Or both.
I just bought my PS5!
Oh well, I'll probably sticking around with this console for years. What could the PS6 offer aside from faster load times, improve graphics, better cloud streaming, and (maybe) enhanced dual sense? The only thing I could think of is a full integration of VR onto the console itself (as oppose to VR being separate as we see today).
Are next gen console allow us to tune-in to the metaverse? SAO style?
Anyway, as a consumer, I'm more concerned about the games being more and more expensive than what they actually offer me in return.
As long the machine can play physical games, have a lot of cute kids games from 3rd party developers, have backward compatible with PS5 and PS4 games, I will be happy. 😊
@Joabra01Swe the problem is, AAA developers have not been allowed to scratch the surface of a ps5 exclusive title as of yet. we won't know the extent of what it can do for another 2 years unfortunately.
@Snake_V5 The PS5 GPU is around the RTX 2070 so its not much for a gaming laptop to out proform the PS5 in graphics .
Pretty cool to think on PS6 when you have like 5 exclusives on PS5.
PS6 showcasing 8K graphics with a turbo engine dualsense controller. Cannot wait for the future
@Luna-Harmony
Console development begins usually within one year of the previous flagship launching.
Early PS4 development started as early as 2008. PS2 began around 1996.
Basically they start concept work on a successor as soon as a console is released. It’s not “active development” which comes much closer to the launch year. But they are already building out concepts for a PS6. It would be dumb not to. But you don’t finalize the hardware until about a year before release.
I’m pretty confident PS5 entered development in late 2014 or early 2015. But it didn’t start to come together until late 2018.
@palmab
Actually it depends.
End results on some games (like Death Stranding) match the results of a 2080Ti based system.
Consoles are mostly just x86 PCs now, but they are still dedicated boxes with unchanging hardware over their lifespan. Meaning that developers can often optimize them far better than on the PC side, where a variety of hardware specifications must be accounted for in development.
In 2013 the PS4’s GPU was roughly equivalent to a GTX750 and an unpowered notebook processor. It was fairly underpowered. But then look at late release games like GOWR. I highlt doubt it would run on a GTX750 based system with a 2013 mid spec CPU from Intel or AMD. And if it could it would be at settings considered unplayable.
There are some advantages to a closed never changing box versus the open nature of the PC. Even if both are x86 and use the same basic designs.
@Hindenburg look back on the past decade. Sports and shooter games, specifically COD, are always holding on to the #1 spot for months after release. They even stay in the top 10 until the next iteration usually.
It's going to be powered by the tears of crying foul about activision.
xbox gonna have 3 systems out at once this gen and Sony only has the 5 microsoft uses the most chips might not get a 6 because xbox gonna take all the chips
Nice to have some confirmation that PlayStation will still be making consoles.
Of course, they will make a PS6 with Mart Cerny on board! By the time that's released the shortage and the pandemic will be far from over. (hopefully)
@OrtadragoonX a 2080ti can go well beyond the PS5 on Death Stranding using DLSS, even without DLSS at 4K a 2080ti will spend pretty much all of its time above 60 where as the PS5 can't hold 60 in cutscenes or combat.
I've got a 3060ti which is a bit slower than a 2080ti and that outperforms my PS5 fairly easily in many games
Am I a worse person if I quit with FPS shooters in the era of Counter-Strike 1.5 ? How can this be? So much chaos for one game ? I remember Playstation being so much fun in the past...
@throwmeaname "What could the PS6 offer aside from faster load times, improve graphics, better cloud streaming, and (maybe) enhanced dual sense?"
Sounds like you're describing PS4 to PS5!
@Art_Vandelay Wasnt the last cycle 8 years. Despite promises from both MS and Sony they both went with extraordinarily long cycles.
@lindos
PS1 - 1994
PS2 - 2000
PS3 - 2006
PS4 - 2013
PS5 - 2020
6 years became 7 and should now become at least 8. And interestingly, even though the cycle is spreading, the generational jump is becoming less apparent.
of course theres will be a PS6, a hardware company always start the concept of the sucessor of the current console, in the moment it reach everyone homes, this is common sense since the release of SNES in 1991(basicaly water is wet)
Consoles as a whole are not the play right now. Everything is getting ported to PC and Emulation has become amazing so why even bother?
Sony loves remasters so why not remaster the PS5 and call it the PS6 😆
@AstraeaV Wow, that is very useful! Can you please test The Last of Us 2, Ratchet, or GOW Ragnarok and share some info on how it works on a 2-3K laptop? Thank you!
Of course, sarcasm. I believe you. It is more powerful on paper, but not better than PS5. I had two gaming laptops, and both were very uncomfortable for gaming, mainly because of heat and cooling noise during play in ultra-high settings (not to mention 4K). On the other hand, PS5 is cool and quiet, costs 3-4 times less, has exclusive games, and the graphics are 90% similar to the eye for the next-gen games. So I believe it all counts to the math.
Whoop-dee-doo... 🤷♂️
@sanderson72 having put a lot of hours into my PS4 and now the PS5, it feels like it's night and day! I didn't know I needed 60fps, 4k res and instant load times until I started playing games on the PS5.
I just hope the PS6 offers a substantial paradigm shift for gaming instead of seeing minimal improvements (like how it's like with the new iphones lol)
@Hindenburg
Good call
@throwmeaname Like the continual comments about the PS5 Pro, unless something else shifts in the future, such as 8K TVs, I can't quite understand what else would be brought to the table? We're barely supporting 4k with some streaming services but no broadcasts these days so when and how would something new like 8k gain traction?
Shoving a 6GB/s SSD in the PS4 Pro's internal bay makes a shed load of difference so I can only wonder how much faster the PS5 will be when I can be bothered to upgrade. I'm still waiting on the PS5 redesign and hoping it's less ugly and massive than the current one.
It would be incredibly dumb for a business to decide to lose literally hundreds of millions of dollars because they are jealous of the competition and therefore don't want them to market their product, in an attempt to restrict sales of the competition while bolstering their profit margins. One game does not make or break a system.
@sanderson72 I agree! Great discussion.
I might consider trading in my PS5 for a PS5 pro if it can both play a consistent 60FPS and in 4k. Many games on the PS5 asks one or the other, but it would be nice to have both.
Aside from that - I think the PS5 marketed itself really well by selling off its instantaneous load speed and the motion sense control. I personally didn't see motion sense to be a game-changer (in terms of player enjoyment) yet here we are.
I wonder what the PS6 will offer us next? I'm thinking of VR, but in reality the possibilities are endless.
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