Sony has hit back at the UK's Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) over its revised stance regarding Microsoft's proposed $69 billion buyout of Activision Blizzard, which has softened significantly in recent days.
The CMA published Sony's response, which calls out the organisation's abrupt about-face, stating: "The CMA’s reversal of its position on its consoles theory of harm is surprising, unprecedented, and irrational."
The PlayStation platform holder goes on to argue that the CMA has taken the "diametrically opposite approach" based "almost exclusively on a single economic model". The model in question is the so-called "lifetime value" model, which (in addition to being mildly dehumanising) determines what the average player is worth to a company over the course of their lifetime as a customer.
Sony says that the CMA assessed flawed data and that if the "errors" were to be corrected, then the profits Microsoft would reap from each PlayStation player leaving the platform to play Call of Duty on Xbox would be "three times as high as the lifetime value of an average PlayStation user".
Sony's closing statement goes scorched earth, stating that: "The addendum does not justify the CMA’s U-turn on the consoles theory of harm. To reach a robust decision, the CMA should revisit its analysis of Microsoft’s incentives and partial foreclosure, correcting for the errors identified in this paper."
At this point, we should just have Jim Ryan and Phil Spencer arm-wrestle for the fate of Call of Duty — make a real spectacle of the event, you know? In a world without E3, we must be entertained. What do you think of the CMA's reversal and Sony's response? Grapple with it in the comments section below.
[source gamesindustry.biz, via videogameschronicle.com]
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Approval of the ABK acquisition would be a disaster. Microsoft already bought a publisher and will keep doing it until they bought their way to dominance or they are stopped. This is the only way Microsoft operates.
Is anyone else ready for this whole fiasco to finally just end?
@mrtennis1990
No, Sony is standing up for what is right
Create your own console exclusives, dont buy an established company with decades old multi platform franchises and pigeon toe them to one device.
Don't get me wrong, I think Sony is actually right in the responses they're putting out and I hope that deal gets torn to shreds, plus simply letting Microsoft buy up the industry and justifying it by using their own failures as ammo is a complete joke.
I'm just not sure what Jim Ryan and Sony are going for at this point, it's clearly a rigged game for Microsoft and all they have to do is the only thing their good at, keep tossing up $$$ until they get their way.
@mrtennis1990 me
@mrtennis1990 I too am so ready for this public slap-and-tickle fight to be over with.
Microsoft is never getting a penny from me again. I could soon be trading in a Xbox Series x and spend what I get on ps5 games.
This is pathetic. The playstation community will not abandon the platform because of CoD. Sony should move on and show the roadmap for PS5.
@Blackmagehobbit playstation community members who own a Xbox are more likely to abandon microsoft.
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Sony have ruined any goodwill they had with Activision so in the scenerio where the deal doesn't go through I would expect Microsoft to immediately ink a deal with Activision (Bobby will sign with a grin) to have COD day one on GP plus exclusive dlc.
Sony will not win this fight even if the deal was somehow stopped. They need to move on and work on something to fight back against cod in the worst case scenario, I hear they have the most talented and creative studios in the world so show us!
@Juanalf And Activision has burned down good will with the playstation community. We the Playstations gamers will not forget about there *****.
As I mentioned at pure XBox, Sony's basically the black knight from Monty Python and The Holy Grail right now.
@TrickyDicky99
I think that's a silly stance, but... lets entertain it... maybe Sony does believe shipping a buggy game on a platform indeed can destroy confidence on that platform... and that's why they released The Last of Us Part I on Windows PCs in the state they released. 🙃
I am on that would love for this to just be over one way or the other. I do think Microsoft has made themselves look like fools, crying that PlayStation has so many exclusives and that they have to do this to compete when in reality Microsoft did this to themselves by doing nothing for over a decade. Not even being a fanboy, but they lost a lot of my respect because of all of this that they had earned when they released the Xbox One X.
It’s all a bit tiring. Both companies are just that, they solely exist to make money. This is bad. Sony are also bad. The entire industry is toxic. They aren’t football teams, they just want your money for themselves. It’s stupid. Sony have literally zero first-party games with release dates for the rest of the year, perhaps they should be putting forward their own plan.
@mrtennis1990 in general I wish this whole acquisition war or whatever you wanna call it would end. These times are worse than when every game had surprise mechanics
Unfortunately MS already said they're still looking to buy some more after this. Whether more big publishers or just singular studios. Whether Sony decides to throw a hissy fit over those. All that remains to be seen. But it'll definitely come with more games that wouldve been multiplat becoming permanently exclusive. More fear mongering articles/tweets/posts about which company is next up for sale. And more fanboys fighting in each of these articles. All in the name of "competition"
@TheCollector316 1-Xbox is very very very very tiny in the gaming world, they represent about 5% of total gaming studios in the world even with all Activision Blizzard studios. that's why the deal was approved because it's so so so far from being close to "monopoly", you think regulators would allow Microsoft to buy everyone? LOL 2- this deal will benefit everyone: 1- Gamers on PC + Xbox will have the same content as PS. no more degraded-by-exclusive-content COD games. 2- gamers will have choices to pay $70 for each new game or get the games with game pass. 3- gamers will be able to play everywhere, PC, PS, Xbox, Mobile, steam deck, TVs and any platform with cloud supported.
This Activision Blizzard fiasco is just the gift that keeps on giving! It may be a lost cause but Sony really has no reason not to continue to fight it anyway.
Man why did it all have to come to this? It's kind of depressing at this point. I don't really know what else to say about it.
it's time for Crying Ryan to stop crying and move on, you buy Destiny 2 which has 44 million users registered, over 300k daily active players. and makes almost $1 billion every year and is always on top 5 most played games on Xbox + PS + PC. if you're so worried then make it exclusive. it makes a ton of revenue for Xbox, so that would be a good counter.
this guy is the biggest hypocrite on the planet saying "our business will never recover if CoD was degraded" meanwhile they've been degrading COD on Xbox for a over a decade, so Xbox business "could never recover" .
the regulators are seeing through his hypocrisy and will 100% approve the deal.
imagine buying Bungie, one of the pioneers of the FPS multiplayer genre and then crying about COD lol
@nessisonett Spider-Man 2 is coming out in September.
@alienwithin do you even own a ps4 or ps5?
Buggy games on the Cell processor didn’t kill PS, neither will this. Microsoft would take major flak for having buggy software on other platforms. This is a stretch. Now Sony goes back to Cell processing than maybe, other wise, both consoles are so close to the same there is no reason to not get it right across PS and Xbox Platforms.
@XenonKnight Heavily rumoured but Sony hasn’t actually announced it. Which is insane. It’s April.
@alienwithin They are heads of two massive corporations and the statement is made by Sony. It's not Uncle Phil vs Ryan. These statements are crafted in a boardroom, and assessed by legal teams and PR management to represent the company, not flame console wars.
@nessisonett There going to wait till the showcase to give a date. And the showcase is before June 8 and they will market it hard after that.
@XenonKnight What showcase? Nothing’s been announced! As it stands, the game clearly exists yet there’s zero in-game footage. It’s supposed to be out in less than 6 months and there’s nothing. Completely relying on blind faith is ridiculous. And that’s the only game there is. Do we have to wait for Insomniac to finish Wolverine for the next 1st party game after that? Are one of the million live services in development going to actually release?
It's embarrassing on both sides, to be honest. MS paying their way to victory and Sony crying about a deal to consumer authorities when it benefits consumers the most. The whole argument is a giant false flag.
To wrap it up: pretty much everyone (Sony, Nintendo, Steam, Nvidia, Google and a bunch of other platforms we don't even know about) are offered a 10 year deal, with a guarantee there won't be any quality differences, the same 70/30 cut and a promise it will be on their platform for the duration of that time. 10 years is a long time, more than enough to build a studio and an IP to compete. The harsh reality is that the deal is going through.
Consumers benefit the most from this with a price lock and a bigger choice on where to play the game. Sony's argument isn't about the consumers anymore, it's about potential financial loss which a consumer authority doesn't and shouldn't care about.
To anyone who objects with this, just tell me how does this deal effect you? It genuinely doesn't change anything.
@nessisonett Wolverine is next year and other teams have things in the works. I bet there something they have not showed yet that will come out in November.
https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/1641950800132833289
@XenonKnight Spiderman seems to be all Sony has and honestly at this point it's utterly pathetic.
Nearly 3 years in and that's all we have? Even Switch has more exclusives coming out this year. Two big ones have already released with Fire Emblem Engage and Kirby. Then there's Zelda in May with Pikmin 4 and Metroid Prime 4 later in the year.
If Sony is this worried about no CoD destroying their platform, maybe they need more exclusives.
And they can't really complain about poor performing ports when they release crap ports to PC.
Anyway, funny this copypasta is still relevant about the PS5:
One game
I don't know why
I bought a PS5 with no Games to buy
Keep that in mind they designed this drive
To improve loading times
And that's all I know
In console wars, exclusives are key
Watch it fly by as it ports to PC
Lose my exclusives at the end of the gen
I have no games to play
It's so unfair
Didn't look out below
Throw my console right out the window
Try to hold on, but I didn't even know
Wasted it all just to watch movies
I spent all my time inside
Of my old games I'm tired, all I got is ports
Just like the PS3, it's reminding me of a time, of a memory, of a time when
I cried so hard, for launch titles
But in the end, it's just got no games
I paid so much, bought PS Plus
But in the end, it's just got no games
@Yaycandy Hahahaha, "for what is right", my ass. 😂
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Sony
Look at all the game companies Sony has bought up, who thus make exclusives... for Sony.... thus tied to one device. 😲😲😲 Take a class on business and learn about corporate acquisitions. Sony are the sore crybabies here.
While i don't want the deal to happen i can't help but laugh at how much Sony sound like a sore loser here, as responses go its pretty whiny.
@Phornix I broke down and got TLOU Remake despite having the original and remaster, just to have something both "exclusive" and appealing to play. I couldn't care less about GT7, GOW, and haven't played Horizon. Sony and MS both have significant albiet different issues with exclusives.
@XenonKnight Most PS CoD players aren't even aware the deal is happening. Fanboys thinking PS players will stop playing CoD over this are deluded, as long as CoD is on PS they will buy it.
@EVIL-C Well that's a you issue. Just because you don't care for the big 1st party games last year on PS doesn't mean there's a problem.
when you just released the PC port of Last of us in the state its in you need to get your own house in order
@Phornix Demons Souls Remake, Returnal, Horizon 2, Sackboy, GoW Ragnarok, GT7, Ratchet and Clank but yes Spider-Man is all they have. We also have at least Wolverine and Factions coming out in the next 2 years as well plus whatever else we don't know about.
Got to love when people lie over this stuff as it really exposes the fanboy in them.
Sony have consistently spent money on exclusive games and/or exclusive content for decades, including on COD so I've got no sympathy for them and no I don't think Microsoft are the good guys here but Playstation aren't either
Give it a rest Sony. Get back to delivering games and experiences and stop the hippocritical corporate shareholder lobbying.
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Sony was a much better and more respected company before Jim Ryan got his hands on it. And I say that as fellow Geordie. He is the only thing damaging PlayStation at this point, everyone is laughing at PlayStation yet again, week after week. What a truly terrible response, they hit the bottom of the barrel and alot of people are loosing respect for them now
This is the behavior of a company that realized too late that the winds, definitions, conditions, everything, are all changing. They have to catch up, which will take at least a half a decade, but they don't want to. They want to be the Apple of gaming, but don't want to put in the effort to drive innovation like Apple would.
If you guys think having a trillion dollar corporation take the brunt of the financial cost in order for us to play video games is a bad thing, you're a fool. Full stop. You think you're more "valuable" as a customer because you throw out more money per game in a shorter amount of time? That's called "being a sucker." Sony has demonstrated that they don't give to craps about any of you. And you keep coming to them and defending their anti-consumer practices. They can afford to put GOW and all their other games on PS+ but they don't want to. Instead, they're putting money into making the other guys weaker. How lame can you get? Use your money to innovate and make games. Your fanbase asks the same of the other guys.
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but, Microsoft is a capitalist entity. Someone's palms were greased here. Microsoft will be lobbying HARD to get authorities to give them what they want.
Microsoft buying ActivisionBlizzard is a terrible thing for consumers and the industry.
Microsoft have spent months trying to convince regulators that Sony is the market leader... Which they've gotten into that position without the regulators being greased up, without owning a significant portion of the publishing space and by delivering a good product that people like.
Both the PS4 and PS5 are weaker hardware than their competitors (only just) and PlayStation don't have a long history in software development. Sony have been able to build brand loyalty over the years by making good decisions.
Contrast this to Microsoft who've been struggling to get a foothold since they entered the market. They always seem to screw something up. The Xbox One attempt to kill pre-owned sales, for example. All this, Sony has done, without the hive pockets that Microsoft has.
Now Microsoft wants the regulators to ignore the reality in front of them, not do their job, and hand Microsoft the advantage it's bought.
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@KundaliniRising333 the irony is that it's Microsoft that's lobbying really hard to get this through.
How many big publishing outlets like IGN have been paid to publish pro-buyout stories?
@carlos82 what about some perspective, though? Both company's have spent money getting exclusive content for their platforms.
They've never gone and bought a huge publisher like this. There is no ground to compare here. What Microsoft want to do is unprecedented.
@MattBoothDev yes they both have, I'm not denying this or sticking up for one side, just that I can't feel sorry for a company trying to play the victim whilst doing the same things to players on other platforms
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@MattBoothDev the Irony is that Sony lobbyed also with 10 senators. But your happy to ignore that.
@alienwithin
CoD makes more money than Destiny, that's the difference. It isn't just the DLC and software sales that make Sony millions, it's the Sony sponsored 'world championships' too.
So, losing it to MS would be a heavy blow.
Pretending MS is innocent is also silly, as both have accused the other of doing something they did themselves in a previous generation. Only a blind fan of one side or the other would think that Bungie acquisition is on the same scale as mega publishers like Bethesda and Activision Blizzard.
Bungie don't have devs under their umbrella, Bethesda and Activision do.
@trev666 ND haven't made a PC game for a fair few generations now (since Sony bought them). So, not entirely sure you know what you're saying. Making a game for PC is harder than for Console.
@Phornix
Ragnärok, Forbidden West, Returnal, Spider-man 2, Wolverine, Sack Boy, Demon's Souls, Ghost of Tsushima (the 2nd has been announced too), Death Stranding (the second has been announced), Ratchet and Clank, Forspoken, Uncharted, FF XVI, Pacific Drive, Silent Hill 2 Remake, Knights of the Old Republic remake, Stellar Blade.
Goodbye Volcano High, Tchia, Gran Turismo 7, Spider-man MM.
They deffinitely have no exclusives released or coming.
No, put them in a cage match!
It's all getting really silly on both sides now, with comments made. I would argue that if even if ABK now doesn't go through, any sort of agreement/marketing etc is now long gone.
I would argue that as if Jim Ryan says, you have put all eggs in one basket, that is complete failure of leadership. Personally I haven't brought a PS for Call of Duty. I brought one for the high-quality first party games.
ABK has gone, fine, use the opportunity to bring back IP, and be innovative. I remember when it was announced Deviation Games would be partnering with Playstation, presumably making something exclusive. Perhaps that might be one to watch.
Saw a comment about Microsoft spending because they can, yet if Sony were in the same position I guarantee they would do the same.
@XenonKnight These comments do make me laugh because on PX it is the exact opposite, people threatening to sell their Playstation's because of Sony's behavior lol
@IAmAshCohen17 That'll teach Sony, lol.
@cragis0001 neither side should be lobbying. In fact, corporations lobbying should be illegal anyway, but that's not really the point.
@carlos82 but how have they been doing the same thing to other platforms?! When did Sony buy a multi-billion dollar publisher that's responsible for a large portion of the game publishing sphere?
Both companies have been picking up the odd studio here and there. Both companies have thrown money at timed exclusives.
This is entirely new ground. There's no "they're as bad as each other" on this one.
Trying to buy even more time is what it probably is. I'm not sure anyone at Sony really saw (realistic) chances of blocking it. However, there comes a point when you need to break the silence on your own pipeline. I guess the whole acquisition was a major factor why they're being so silent. The rumored showcase or whatever it will be better give us some substantial first party news.
At this point whether the deal goes ahead or not the Activision and Sony relationship is over.
@MattBoothDev yes there is, I'm talking entirely from a customer point of view. Across decades of me playing games, a game is either on my platform of choice or not because of some deal and it makes no difference to me whether that's buying a company or an exclusive deal, the end result is the same. Not to mention in this case they've said they'll leave COD on Playstation anyway
@EVIL-C which huge, best selling studios have Sony bought an made exclusive? They buy little known devs an nurture an invest in them. Naughty Dog for instance, they made games for Apple 2 originally.
@XenonKnight probably be another R&C game in-between Spider-Man and Wolverine or after Wolverine. Hopefully they add a co-op arena mode to the next game.
@sjbsixpack people throw all nuance out when they argue online just so they can seem to be right. Sony haven't done anything like this. MS have bought 2 whole publishers.
MS are trying to dominate the market at a fast and unsustainable rate. When the countless studios that MS owns start underperforming, they will get shut down. Another publisher will be bought. Putting all those games day 1 on gamepass will decrease revenue, and eventually quality.
All Sony ever did was buy developers that they've worked well with in the past. Not whole publishers. That is why they are salty but this is a lost cause. Move on and create more games so you don't look like a bit*h in the news every day
Can we all just remember Sony is a business and is protecting its business interests. This is not a console flame war that people seem to want to turn it into. If you owned a business and one of your largest assets that generated profit for your business was being bought up by a competitor in the market, you'd be pretty angry too.
Yes this will go through but yes it will also significantly impact playstation business. I dont think people realise quite how much money Call of Duty makes them - either through sales of the game and microtransactions, or through console sales. The majority of gamers only buy 1 or 2 games a year - like CoD and Fifa and pay no attention to specialist media, so if they switch to Xbox that will hit Sony hard and mean less investment in first party.
Thats all im going to say on the matter, other than to say those talking about Jim Ryan crying need a reality check
@BANJO Kotick was saying last week that none of this will harm the long term relationship with Sony.
Business is business at the end of the day.
I already regret investing in the PS5 as it is, and all of Jim Ryan's crybaby whinging would be enough to turn me off PS altogether at this point if it weren't for Spider-Man 2 and Wolverine, the only announced 1st party titles I care about.
This whole farce has made everyone involved look like complete idiots. Don’t get me wrong it was entertaining at first, but now it’s just pathetic.
What Sony really wants to say is “we can’t believe you accepted Microsoft’s bribe as that is the only reasonable explanation for this u-turn.”
Or something.
The comments about a downgraded version of COD would ruin them is ridiculous. If anything, that would hurt Microsoft's image if they were to release that on PlayStation. But my god just let this deal go through already I'm so sick of it already. This deal has brought out the worst in both companies. Xbox fanboys are invested in this acquisition like their life depends on it. PlayStation fanboys are just saying dumb stuff at this point. Just approve the deal, accept it and move on. Start giving us stuff to be excited for. Give Stellar Blade and Spider-Man 2 a release date. Show off Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. Announce first party titles. PS isn't about COD. It's about the quality games from first and third party studios.
@Sakai
Jim is a Geordie? I didn't know that. I'm from London myself but live in S/Shields.
Down and should be kicked out of Sony - Jim Ryan!!!
Already in various places - inc Japan where Japanese FTC cleared the deal without ANY concessions as the deal doesn't 'significantly' Lessen Competition. It only makes Xbox 'stronger' to be more 'competitive' - increase the Competition on Sony, the 'dominant' player and Sony are throwing out all their toys to try and remain a 'top' player.
The FTC/CMA etc shouldn't care about Sony's profits, the way they run their business etc, just be concerned that the deal is not anti-competitive or Harmful to consumers - and getting CoD on MORE devices, into Sub services like Game Pass in Consumer friendly and only puts 'pressure' on Sony to ''compete'.
Even if MS had NO concessions and Cancelled CoD or any other A/B game from ever coming to PS, that is COMPETITION - to Compete against Sony's IP's - like Spider-man, wolverine, last of Us, Uncharted, God of War, Gran Turismo, Horizon etc etc , to compete with VR and any other Unique Selling Points Sony has that MS doesn't...
Nintendo Competes by having its own USP's like the 'Hybrid' design and its own Exclusive IP's. Sony and MS compete too (although very one sided in Sony's favour) so this just makes MS more competitive and benefits the MAJORITY of gamers.
The sooner Sony realise that their BS in front of regulators is absolutely embarrassing, pathetic and completely expected from childish, pathetic, uneducated Sony Fanboys, not grown adults and CEO's. As soon as Jim said he didn't care about CoD, just wants to 'block' the deal, they lost any arguments they had and perhaps why EVERYWHERE realises that MS 'need' A/B to compete against Sony and all their anti-competitive BS they do to be at the 'top' - the bigger they are, the harder they can fall...
@GADG3Tx87 welcome to the North East buddy. I was born and raised in Whitley Bay, my daughter was born here aswell. Hope you are enjoying life in South Shields, its a bit cheaper than London! Jim is a big Newcastle United fan aswell, as I am. Haweh the Lads!
Stand strong Jim ✊🏻
#InJimWeTrust
@BAMozzy He never said he didn't care about CoD, he said he didn't care about making a deal for CoD. There's a massive difference there.
Seems some people still can't see the difference between Sony buying single studios and Microsoft buying publishers.
Also what Studio acquisition has sony made where games from that Studio no longer appeared on xbox? Sonys studios never had games that sold millions on xbox and then took them away, yet Bethesda and Activision have multiple huge selling games on playstation and are about to be taken away.
That's the difference, When sony buy a studio it doesn't hurt the competition, when Microsoft buy a Publisher/Studio it's to hurt the competition.
@Sakai
Definitely cheaper than London that's for sure. Rent costs in London are ridiculous now. In central London private rent can set you back anywhere from 2k-5k per month.
There are some of my friends that want out of London too. Some of them get jealous when I tell them I live next to a beach 😆.
Whitley Bay is nice I've been through there and I like Seaburn but that's more into Sunderland.
Completely off topic there. 😆. But on topic in regards to this article the whole situation is ridiculous. And that includes comments from both Sony and Microsoft. Microsoft claiming to be the underdog when they now already have more studios, IP's and resources than Sony is laughable. If they can't turn that into success with their vast resources then that stinks of very poor management. Which will only get worse the bigger they get.
On the flip side Sony have a lot of dormant IP's they really should revisit. Resistance as others have said can be made into a competitive shooter akin to Gears of War. Killzone used to have quite the following and MAG is more possible than ever given the stability of PSN these days compared to the PS3 day. That can be as big as Battlefield.
Heck, if this ABK deal is considered "competitive" and moral by gamers and other bodies alike then morally those folks surely can't be sour if hypothetically Sony made a deal with EA for Battlefield marketing and bonuses. Fair game if Microsoft buying ABK is considered "competitive".
What baffles me the most is how extremists claim that when Sony secures a third-party exclusivity deal it's the most evil thing ever but Microsoft buying a publisher as big as Sony Corporation (they're worth 80bn) that's justified and good for the industry. It isn't. And that's coming from someone who doesn't care about CoD or anything under ABK besides Spyro. Consolidation is bad. End of story. I do expect when and if news arrives of Sony possibly purchasing SquareEnix all those same people will scream and shout over it despite being fine with the ABK situation. Because most of these "extremists" are hypocrites.
Rant over. 😆
@RBMango @Khayl @mrtennis1990 god i wish they would just get it over with too..its like watching 2 relatives air their dirty laundry after a few too many..
While I don't want the deal to go through without sanctions the most irrational thing in this whole palaver has been some of Sony's nonsensical arguments. Frankly they haven't helped themselves.
I love how XBOX fangirls are saying this COD deal will benefit all gamers, yeah but what about all other sinlgeplayer Ips from Bethesda and ABK like Elder Scrolls or more recently Redfall?
BTW its shocking how many X Girls are on a playstation site. just shocking.
As a Nintendo fan with a gaming PC, I'm just enjoying the fireworks.
Quickest way to change the CMA’s mind is to suggest they’re irrational.
@UltimateOtaku91
In its history, Sony bought the British publisher Psygnosis Limited in 1993
@Yaycandy you know naughty dog, sucker punch, bungie, Bluepoint Games, Guerrilla Games were acquired by sony? Sony gets FF, CoD exclusivity all the time. And it's just videogames. What they do to anime stuff is insane. Sony is not a "good" company. all they want is your money. For the players? Let's close PS3 store. More like for the payers. They've released PS5 like 2 years ago and still make games for ps4 cuz it will bring them more money. I can't blame them. But while you all call MS bad for doing the exact same thing, I see it as an opportunity for Sony to rise again, because sony got greedy and lazy lately. Competition is always great and sony wasn't competing with anyone during PS4 era
@Mii_Fighter And what games did they publish on other systems other than playstation?
@UltimateOtaku91
Psygnosis published games for Amiga, Atari, MS-DOS, Commodore 64, Windows, Sega Saturn, Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo Entertainment System, Game Boy.... as publisher.
Crying wolf Sony need to let this go. The deal isn't going to dent Sony's dominance one bit, especially not in Japan... oh wait, they're being investigated over that aren't they?
They act like they're the underdogs yet they have been paying their way to dominance for years.
Before the purchase of Bethesda and now most likely ActiBlizz it used to be a level playing field and when its a level playing field Xbox are mostly always last behind Playstation, they literally cant compete properly when its a level playing field. Spend many billions now from their couple trillions to be top dogs in the future. The more they're able to get away with in courts the more they'll keep spending in the future, like who is the next big one they'll go for next in 3 to 10 years from now. It's obviously a long game Xbox are playing with their trillions. Everyone in court giving the green light for these huge acquisitions for Xbox are going to look silly in 6 or more years from now once everyone jumps to Xbox cause they're buying up all the best games for their GamePass subscription and all games eventually going console exclusive in time. Said it before and I'll say it again just because you in last place doesn't automatically give you the rights to buy up so many 3rd party games away from the competition to be competitive. There's so much hypocrisy in Xbox words of then why don't you make a CoD competitor to compete against CoD, what about why don't you make some games then to compete with PlayStation instead of trying to buy all the best games to do the work for you, lazy trillion tactics. Yawn
@Judal27 Well exactly that. It's not much of a competition when Microsoft has bottomless pockets. When does it stop? They already bought 10+ studios by acquiring Zenimax, now they're going after ABK who hold a further 9 studios. And then they're talking about acquiring more after ABK has been bought, and all the associations are fine with that? It's nuts! When does it stop?
@SolaceCreed There is no excuse for the state last of us part 1 on pc was launched in.
@TrickyDicky99 They've put a select few on PC and most of them are years after release on PlayStation.
@trev666 Take that up with Iron Galaxy because they did the port to PC, not Sony and not Naughty Dog.
@Veisenberg and sony let them release it in that state when it clearly wasnt ready.
They clearly think releasing games in that state is acceptable and for them to argue that Microsoft would do that to call of duty is hypocritical
Statistics are used to build a story. Apparently Microsoft used the statistics better than Sony did.
@trev666 https://tinyurl.com/2b9xf9ex
@Mii_Fighter @UltimateOtaku91 Some context for those that don’t know. They published a Dracula movie tie-in game, a Toy Story tie-in game, and a single Lemmings game on Nintendo platforms. As for the rest, although Sony acquired Psygnosis in 1993, the company continued working as a multi platform publisher until 1999 when systems like the Atari, Amiga, MS DOS, Gameboy, NES, and Sega Saturn were all good and dead. Also, at the time of the acquisition they had fewer than 200 employees and the cost of the acquisition was less than $40 million in today’s economy. By contrast, Activision Blizzard currently has more than 13,000 employees.
Jim Ryan went back to his absurd argument that one company having marketing rights and exclusive content for call of duty would cause irreparable harm to competition while currently having both of those things for call of duty. He continues to insult the intelligence of regulators with flat out lies.
There was a right way to argue against this merger, this just isn't it.
@theMEGAniggle A X-men game with coop would be great.
@XenonKnight This can indeed be an outcome. Xbox have not much to offer and gamepass is a rent system since players can not collect the games digitally and it is not as cheap as some people convince themselves.
These GREEDY, SLIMY Xbox execs will stop at nothing until every household on Earth owns an Xbox and PlayStation and Nintendo are out of business! Jim Ryan is just doing his civic duty by alerting people to the UNFAIR UNAMERICAN monopoly Xbox is planning!
Though I dislike huge acquisitions such as this, I'm also not convinced that the deal should be blocked. It's up to the regulators to decide, and the concessions that Microsoft has offered seem reasonable enough.
PlayStation's been in a dominant position up until now, and Xbox isn't suddenly going to get a monopoly if this deal goes through, so I don't see this as substantially harming competition. At this point, Jim Ryan just seems to be doing bad faith arguments to hold this deal up as much as possible.
I have zero respect for a company buying their way to number one. Where is the skill in that? Microsoft have contributed to the over bloating of game development over the last couple of decades to the point where they have to aquire new studios to be prolific. I have no sympathy for Sony either with this regard. Unfortunately, as much as I hate this sort of thing, I just can't see how they are committing any wrong doing. They have the bottomless pockets to do it. Activision aren't the first company to merge and won't be the last.
As for Jim Ryan, the sooner that man is out the door, the better. Nothing he says holds any water.
@TheCollector316 Microsoft is only able to do this by the skin of their teeth because they are the weakest of the big three, and arguing that this will "level the playing field". Another gaming related merger of any significance for them, big or small, would be shot down immediatly by these same regulatory boards after this clears and Microsoft knows it. They will lay low for good long time. Besides, ABK as a company kinda sucks and is in dire need of a regime change, which, obvisouly has bolstered Microsofts case more and is very specific to this merger.
@gipsojo
Sony wants PlayStation to be the best platform for third-party games. In other words, Sony wants to get rid of Xbox and Nintendo, i.e. to make PlayStation the best gaming platform
@XenonKnight yeah that would but would you go for an arcadey approach or something more grounded cinematic, like Marvel's Spider-Man
@theMEGAniggle more like Marvel's Spider-Man
Just end this crap.
It’s going to go through at this point. Just take the ten year deal Sony.
I get that they had to fight this. It was in their best interest to scuttle the merger. But it’s over now. Every regulator has approved it now.
Just take the deal Microsoft offered Jim and company. It was very reasonable.
@mrtennis1990 I don't like what M$ is trying to do and I'm tired of hearing about it. Starting today I am ignoring all the PushSquare articles about this topic.
@jorel262 you should feel the same about it when it's posted on purexbox.
i have all consoles(well , PC for Xbox😏) so i’m definitely not biased
$ony and M$ both suck right now
I have a Xbox Series X, Switch Lite, PS4 Pro, PS5 and a lame ass pc(ryzen 3600 with 5700) and I still hate Microsoft.
@Imani
If Sony has enough money like Microsoft and Tencent, it would surely buy half the gaming industry
@carlos82 right, but Halo was a Microsoft thing and Uncharted was a Sony thing. Both companies bought these studios at some point and these games were platform exclusive. No one bats an eyelid.
When Microsoft bought Zenimax and Bethesda they honoured existing contracts and are, likely, making all such games platform exclusive.
Zenimax was quite a big deal but acceptable because it wasn't such a large part of the market. After all, there was still Activision, Ubisoft, EA, Square Enix, etc.
Now the market is in a really different place and this places a large portion of it in the hands of a single entity.
Call of Duty isn't the problem 🤷♂️
Phil would win the armwrestling contest, as it is an ancient game and thus Jim has never played it.
@carlos82 Sony gets early beta access from these cod 'deals'. Back in the day Microsoft demanded whole Map Packs from their Cod deals. Not even remotely close. Nobody bats an eye about the map pack deals anymore because MS aren't #1 anymore. Ironic.
I know very little about business and matters like this, but if I was Microsoft and looking to buy Activision/Blizzard, it would be to make more money putting my games on everything. I get a cut every time people play CoD on ANY device, not just an Xbox.
Seems to me, I wouldn’t want to make a wildly popular game like that exclusive.
Wtf do I know though?
My interest in Xbox has been non existent for years now and admittedly I'm starting to feel the same way with PlayStation. The reality is gaming on these Platforms has become very expensive and honestly I'm sick of the childish bickering between the 2 Communities too. Most of my time is spent gaming on my PC and Steam Deck now along with the Switch.
@TrickyDicky99 if you're buying their games on pc then they're still making money off you are they not?
@KilloWertz Or, you could say that this whole thing started with Sony crying over Microsoft now doing what Sony has been doing for a decade: Buying other Studios and exclusives for their platform.
@MattBoothDev Difference is that it was Activision Blizzard who came to Microsoft with an offer for Microsoft to by them. They were the ones who truly needed this deal and Sony is now trying to screw those plans for their own gain...
@MickBeast You could, but what I said is true. Microsoft sat there for over a decade doing nothing really, but now tries to justify what they are doing by saying they have to because PlayStation has so many exclusives. If they didn't sit there doing nothing for over a decade, they wouldn't be in the situation where they have to buy two of the largest publishers in the world.
This whole situation is a joke really at this point. I'm not saying Sony is in the right through this either, but my main point is that Microsoft put themselves in the position of not having very many exclusives and come off as blaming Sony for it when in reality it's mostly their own fault. It's hard for me to defend or even respect a company that does that.
@MickBeast of course they are, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a very, very bad move for consumers and the industry. It's benefits Bobby Kotick and Phil Spencer more than anything and anyone else.
@KilloWertz that's a great point.
Sony have built brand loyalty with a good machine and good first party games. If Microsoft are to be believed, and Sony are as strong as they say, that's been earned the hard way. Buying the advantage like this is so, so wrong.
@MattBoothDev Sony bought Psygnosis which sold 40% of all games sold in Europe in 1995/96.
@MattBoothDev no I agree lobbying should be banned specially if it's financially beneficial to who ever is involved.
@cragis0001 they bought them in 1993, according to Wikipedia. Before they even released a playstation console in Japan.
@MattBoothDev aye but they bought Psygnosis in 1993 to beef up there first party lineup for the EU/US PlayStation launch's in 1994. But by 1995/96 was shifting 40% of all games sold in the EU. Even though some came to other platforms. it ultimately helped Sony tackle both Sega & Nintendo in the early days. I think that's why Sony doesn't want the Activision Blizzard deal to go through as history could repeat itself.
@cragis0001 ok, but, or doesn't tell the story you think it does?
They bought a publisher that was on its knees in preparation for their new console launch (and entry into the market as a total newcomer) and turned it into a huge success.
Microsoft isn't a newcomer, isn't launching a new platform and despite the narrative, ActivisionBlizzard isn't an ailing publisher on it's knees.
What the Psygnosis case shows is that Sony a long history of managing studios well. They had a good brand in the 90s, especially in Europe and effectively toppled Sega as the gamers choice.
It's not really an apple to apples comparison, and there aren't any, actually. We're in uncharted territory with only Microsoft's history in other markets to guide us.
I've never seen anything that said Psygnosis was on its knees before Sony purchased them? But ok.
I'd also wouldn't use Psygnosis as an indorsement for Sony's long history of managing studios as they wanted to sell it at one point, gutted it, renamed it. All before closing most of it years later. Psygnosis hey day under Sony was when it was still multiplatform.
Sony was on fire in the 90's. But there still doing the same tactics today mostly 3rd party exclusivity which was key it early & current popularity.
It may not be the same comparison. But it still proves that an established publisher & a good strategy can tople the scales & that's what Sony is fearing.
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