Rumour: Dragon's Dogma 2 Runs at 30fps on PS5

Very disappointing. Developers have to learn that we want 60fps options. If it means you have to turn the resolution down to 900p, so be it, but give us the option. This will lose them sales.

dont care good game is a good game despite frame rate

red dead redemption 2 no 60fps still sold 50+ million copies does it really matter if the game is good

@AK4tywill Its not as simple as lowering resolution and no this won't lose them sales as the majority don't care despite how loud the internet is.

Probably can’t do 60fps b/c of the fast travel. Oh wait.😂

Well that’s disappointing but I’m still going to play it.

I am hopeful 60 fps is possible, RE engine is very scalable.

Oh no!!

...whatever. The game looks great in the footage released so far, I'm sure I'll forget it runs at 30 two hours into it.
Or until I pop something in that does 60 somewhere in between playing DD2.
Would I have preferred 60fps? Of course. But I've been gaming long enough to know it's not gonna make the game magically feel like it has tank controls/feel jank as hell.

I am, however, looking forward to reading some meltdowns later today.

People still think PS5 is cutting edge technology when it is 2 gpu generations old. This is exactly why PS5 Pro will be released.

@DennisReynolds

1) My point is that people would accept sacrifices in order to achieve a 60fps mode. 900p is one example.

2) The majority might not care, but Dragons Dogma isn't a mainstream franchise, and there is a large contingent of enthusiasts who will only play games that offer a higher frame rate. Majority? No. Significant? Quite possibly.

Honestly, every game should run at 60 fps nowadays. Old games I have no problem due to hardware restrictions etc, but in 2024? It should be 60 fps.

So it's only a rumour? If the games anywhere near as good as the first I don't care if its 30fps. I'd like a performance mode and I'm an advocate for all ps5 games having both options but it's not a deal breaker.

@Shad361 for a console the ps5 is cutting edge. Consoles have always had older tech hence the cheaper price point. Your comment is both obvious and redundant at the same time.

@Shad361 also just to add that when the inevitable ps5 Pro eventually launches the tech in that will be old too. So it'll be interesting to see if your opinion changes when faced with having to pay even more for a new console that is still behind tech wise. The ps5 Pro will not be cutting edge either by your reckoning.

30fps and a single save slot are a great throwback to the PS1 era. I just hope dualshock vibration and movement via analog sticks are implemented.

Definitely disappointed although I will probably still play it. This will be more the case as the generation continues unfortunately, now I'm begging Sony for the PS5 pro this year 🤞

@AK4tywill Again its not as simple as lowering the resolution but congrats you don't know what you're talking about 🙄

A games framerate doesn't impact sales. If all you have is a console to game and you want DD2 then you're buying it regardless because as i said the majority don't care if its 30fps or 60fps. The ecochambers online can screech all they want it won't matter in the slightest. Most of the people buying this won't even realise what framerate it is while playing anyway.

Still D1 for me but a bit disappointed tbh, i was expecting 60fps from the RE Engine

@Shad361 The PS5 Pro won't be a massive upgrade it will be pretty minor one and dude consoles are always using dated tech, the Series X was dated before it even launched and so is the PS5 Pro. You want cutting edge modern tech buy a 2000K PC.

@AK4tywill When the CPU is the limiting factor lowering the resolution won't help

@DennisReynolds hardly anyone owns an 2k pc. You pc fanboys are so concerned with consoles when you should be playing your make believe super rigs that's no more powerful than a PS4 in reality

I honestly don't mind, I started Granblue Fantasy Relink last night and changed it to the Graphics mode for 4k 30fps instead of 60fps 1080p, and I couldn't really tell the difference so DD2 being 30fps only doesn't bother me.

No 60 fps no game

I really can't play games at 30fps anymore. It's not a snobby thing but I genuinely get sick and dizzy with games at 30fps now. Maybe i've grown accustomed to being treated to games at 60fps that reverting makes me feel sick. After completing Demon's Souls, I had to go back and retry Bloodborne but i couldn't get far at all because of the frame rate. I've been really looking forward to DD2 so I hope the rumour is false

@Pranwell I think it’s unlikely that a PS5 Pro will almost double the CPU performance.

30 frames is unbearable with oled tv's.

@Czar_Khastik waiting to try the first level on a magazine demo disc before I buy

@b7ray32 😂😂 Don't think he's a PC fanboy, read where's he's coming from. And yeah devs won't even take full advantage of a 2K rig.

@AK4tywill it will lose them as many sales as Hogwarts Legacy lost because of internet backlash.

@b7ray32 What? I don't even PC game, the closest i've come to PC gaming is my friends Steam Deck haha. What i'm saying is if you want cutting edge gaming then console gaming is not the way to go, we take sacrifices for console game and always have done.

@Pranwell The Pro is not needed. It’s the developer who decides the target performance of a game for a specific base hardware, and for most third-party developers that’s the PS5 nowadays (and not the Xbox Series S). So if the developer says „I want it to run with 60 fps on PS5“, he or she can design it that way. And many games prove that this is possible even with great graphics, see Avatar as a more recent example. Blame the dev, not the hardware!

@Beetlebum91 A single man-tear has just fallen on my demo disc containing Kula World and the T-Rex tech demo

Not too bothered. The only time I use a performance mode is when 60fps reduces motion blurring when the camera moves.

I'm curious how people will react, when "GTA VI" will only run at 30fps on current-gen systems, because it will and how that will impact the sales, because it won't.

If it's a locked 30 then it's fine, consistent frame rate is all that really matters. I do look forward to the digital foundry lads coverage.

I wonder if it's full of easily missable quests again

And thats me out. There is no excuse for 30 FPS at this point.

If we want next gen games to start to push things forwards we are going to have to expect 30fps more often. These are consoles after all and while 60 and above is really nice I've always been fine with 30 on consoles as long as it's stable. This sane debate everytime a game is coming out is boring. Let the devs decide what's best for each game and if you're desperate to power through that there's always PC!

Sure it will still be a good game but would be nice to get it at a higher frame rate ,and I presume it's 4k ?games need to catch up, ps5 pro this year to play what ?

30fps = hard pass

Hard pass for me - sorry if I sound like an FPS snob, but the RE engine has had NO trouble running all its titles at 60fps (and beyond) so far; I haven't played a sub 60fps game since the PS4 days and I'm loving it.

This is of course, just.a rumour, I'm remaining hopeful it's not true. Hell if Forbidden West can do it, I'm sure a game with graphics half as good can.

Deal breaker for me! I just can’t go back to 30fps.

I have an i5 12400. And rtx 4060ti. What can I achieve with that?

No online coop and 30fps?!

@Czar_Khastik I'm banking on kula world coming to ps4 soon. Aswell as pandemonium and hogs of war. The fact Tomba is coming soon is amazing.

it wouldn't be a deal-breaker but it would be disappointing. Although generally with 30 FPS games I only find it jarring if I've played a 60 FPS game immediately before.

Day one purchase no more then. Another reason why we need a Pro model asap

Dear god, I'm surprised some people's eyes didn't fall out during the PS1-PS3 era......

That blows. PC it is then.

The eternal 30FPS... Reason why I play all multi platform games on PC. I suppose the game's resolution is 4k (checkered or whatever)... it's not mentioned in this article.
Here's hoping PS5 Pro will finally lower the number of those 4k@30fps cases (at least for a while...)

As for single slot saves... Bloodborne has it too for example, and no one made a deal out of it. It is how it is.
Not to mention that on console you can still save scum using PS+ or external storage if you really want to...

To this day I haven't started Dragon's Dogma 1 because it's still locked at 30 fps even when played on PS5. Will probably skip this also if it's just 30 fps. I just can't play Action RPGs in cinematic mode anymore. 60 fps is a must, no matter the compromise, for Action games.

It's an AA game that does look like an AA game. So there will be compromises.

I hope people enjoy it, and it shouldn't exactly take away from it if it is a good game.

It does support Ray Tracing, which I value way more for an immersive world, so maybe the devs would just rather focus on that.

@Loamy I have an LG BX oled..it probably worth it's money especially in dolby vision movie modes and gaming is ultra responsive with accurate colors..however motion handling isn't the best..(maybe Sony is better?). 40 fps with VRR is a great sweet spot for me with the 120hz panel.

@Loamy I have no idea why dragon dogmas fans are so defensive of the awful pawn system.

This game would be no fun if I could play with my friends instead of braindead useless ai companions!

@DennisReynolds PS5 and Series X were good on release. The 3000’s literally barely came out then. And you should be telling this to the people who expect every PS5 game to be 60fps until the end of the consoles life, not me.

The RE Engine has clearly hit its limit now then. Up to now it has really only been used for contained, focused experiences like DMC 5 and all the RE games we've had out of it so far, this is an unprecedented game for it in terms of scope. No wonder they've had to begin development on RE Engine 2. Been a really good run, easily been one of the best in-house engines developed by any games developer. I can forgive the 30fps here because of this. I'm not going to deny myself the chance to play what I think will be 2024s GOTY.

@AK4tywill yep give me the choice, don't feed me the bs that this is the direction they think is artistically better. I thought I'd always choose definition over frame rate...but I don't these days.

@Shad361 nobody's disputing the fact that the ps5 tech is old but these are the latest consoles and is cutting edge as in there is nothing in the console eco system that can compete. So I don't fully understand why you are even here because you seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder with the ps5. What are these Sony whales you refer to? Is it a new derogatory term used to describe Sony fanboys? I think you are just trolling here.

I'm sorry, but I'll never personally connect with people who refuse to buy a game just because it runs at 30fps. Not saying you're wrong or anything, but from my perspective of someone who was just fine playing games at 30fps, I can't fully understand, I'm sorry.

But yeah, the vast majority of consumers won't care, and I don't understand why people think that ALL games NEED to be 60fps just because they don't like 30fps. Not every game is made for you or will be for you.

Although I prefer having the option, I often end up playing in fidelity mode anyways. For me it’s not a deal breaker.

And I suspect the vast majority of players (not just the enthusiast crowd) will be fine with 30fps. I think there was data from somewhere that said when given the option, most gamers play on fidelity/graphics mode, rather than performance mode.

Gotham Knights still went on to be somewhat successful, despite the 30 fps controversy. I know Dragon’s Dogma doesn’t have the clout that DC comics has, but I don’t necessarily think the lack of 60 fps is a kiss of death for the game.

Was planning on finally buying a PS5 to play this game on release. Thank god I didn't buy it. Gonna just buy it on pc now

I couldnt give a ***** less about 30fps but why are the devs still sticking with single slot save?? That makes no sense

No 60fps = No buy

@Northern_munkey have you not seen all the comments of people saying they won’t buy the game because it’s 30fps? These people can’t fathom PS5 getting 30fps games. People told me I was crazy for suggesting PS5 games would revert back to 30fps.

Just because I said something you don’t like doesn’t mean I’m trolling either. The fact my post was removed was laughable too.

Considering the visuals on offer here, this is pretty disappointing.if this had demon souls remake or hfw level fidelity I'd get it, but it looks like a decent Ps4 game.

Hopefully this rumor turns out to be false.

Don’t care. Getting day one.

I was 50/50 about getting it or not. But this has definitely pushed me to the side of not buying. 30 FPS is a non starter for an action game like this

To be honest i dont care im more of a resolution and stable frame rate guy, so if the game is gonna be 4K upscalled and stable 30 fps it doesnt bother me i recently beat the first on ps5 and thats 1440p 30 fps it was a really good experience the only games that i asked 60 fps are first person games, racing games, figthing games, souls like and competitive games all the other games specially third person games i go with 30 fps always

I.mean didnt the Remaster of Dragon Dogma only run at 30fps too?

Personally as long as its stable 30 I dont have an issue. Infact I actually prefer it with more cinematic games (like your last of us)
However Dragon Dogma (for me) is in this weird spot of being cinematic bordering on heavier action.
Provided they didnt suddenly decide to speed up the combat for Dragon Dogma 2....Ill be ok with 30 (Ive watch nothing on it as I want to go in spoiler free)

I was always going to pick Ronin over this anyway, although 30fps was never a deal breaker for me. I just couldn't get into the first Dogma so Ronin is an easy decision.

@Shad361 I wasn't discussing people not playing it because it's only 30fps. I was discussing the tech in the ps5. Stay focused please 👍

Game Devs have been arses lately, making games that'll only run in 4-5k worth if PC, pretty ridiculous IMO, but this isn't a game I'm remotely interested in so 2 fingers up. Good thing this game is only for like 10% of the gaming public otherwise it'd be a thing they'd fix, lol.

So that means waiting to play it on a PS5pro or PS6 for me..IF they get a 60fps version.

@McBurn As a bloodborne fan...lol

@LordAinsley: Yeah, would suck if it was a game I was really attached too. Luckily this is more of a "nice to have" game for me, not a must buy (:

I prefer framerate instead of graphics.

What a ridiculous poor idea with the save slots. Tbh with that, fps, the travel system and a couple other bits this has gone from day 1 to see how it goes and wait for a sale for me tbh.
Shame

the game looks outdated by about 7 years as it is. the lack of 60fps for such a dated game is quite baffling. must be an engine limitation.

4k 30fps and refusal to offer option for 1080p 60fps capcom taking notes from Todd Coward

I guess it's a PC game for me then. I am going to play this game but not at 30 fps.

I can’t stand 30 fps anymore. I’ll only buy this if they add a performance mode.

Lower the resolution and cutback the graphics for 60fps, after all this is common place on PC and if they want quality settings then 30fps is fine. It still amazes that they'll release a PC version which can be customised for performance by lowering the settings but will stick ridgedly to 30fps or nothing on consoles. I prefer to play on PS5 but will definitely get this on PC.

Even when the OG PS4 couldn't handle RE2 Remake, that game was running with unlocked framerate, this is quite common with most RE Engine games since last generation, so i don't see why it could be different in this case. I think this "source" is BS

Just wait to play. I'm sure they will look at a performance mode down the line if it's not there for launch. You'll also get a patched up game at a cheaper price.

@trev666 Don't care about actual good performance? Do you spend money on everything or something?

Seriously Crapcom?
-$70
-No fast-travel
-1 save slot
-30FPS
Whats next? Not gonna allow us to use the ***** analog sticks too? Why the ***** should I be hyped for this trash-fire again!?

@R_Ryder More like wait till it goes on sale.

@Shad361 Amen - I have held off repurchasing a PS5 as the PS5 Pro should make console gaming more comparable to PC gaming AND without the admin and time treachery of expensive lego.

@SgtTruth The saddest part is, what you said is true.

@UltimateOtaku91 I am on the opposite side of the spectrum! I can tell the difference between 4K and 1080p but i have to pay attention, while I immediately notice 30fps to 60fps jump

Definitely not a deal breaker for me but if people are this outraged at a rumor of 30fps on consoles, I can't imagine them not including an update that includes performance mode.

Man people have no tolerance for anything these days lol I must be old now.

I'm keeping all these no "60 fps no buy" receipts lol.

Looks fantastic to me and I played the original on PS3 at around 24-30 fps just fine. Same goes for the TLOU at 20ish

Sooo resolution will be 4k yes? I'd like 60fps outta the box but if it's not and it's 30 then gimme 4k