PHYSINT, the new Metal Gear Solid-style action espionage from Hideo Kojima, is being branded as a game and a movie all at the same time. At this point, it’s unclear whether the auteur is making two connected pieces of media or one product which merges the two mediums, but we know both Sony Interactive Entertainment and Columbia Pictures are involved.
And in an interview on HideoTube, the veteran developer has divulged a few more details about the product. “It will be both a game and a movie at the same time,” he confusingly declared. “That’s why we were at Sony Pictures. Of course, it will be a game. However, if your mother walks in and sees you playing this game, she’ll think you’re watching a movie. I’m not sure how far we can take it yet.”
Kojima continued that, while he originally established his own studio to explore new ideas like Death Stranding, he paid attention to all the feedback from fans – and when he got ill during the pandemic, it changed his perspective on returning to the spy thriller genre he helped define.
“I was at my lowest and felt like I couldn’t go back to making games,” he said of the period he was unwell. “I wrote a will, too. And in that moment, I realised that people die. But I turned 60 last year. I’ll turn 70 in ten years. I hope to never retire. Having said that, if the users desire it so much, I thought I should change my priorities a bit. I still want to do new things, but I decided to make an action espionage game.”
The industry veteran added that he’s received a lot of requests to make movies, but it’s his friend and director Guillermo del Toro who put him on the right path. “I get many requests from Hollywood to make films, but I’ve refused them,” he explained. “Because I have my own company now, I can’t leave for one or two years to go make a movie. The company would collapse. I was in a tough spot. And I talked to del Toro about it. And he said, ‘Hideo, what you’re making is already a movie. Keep going as you are.’ His words saved me. And since we’ll be working with many creators in the business, though the output is a game, it won’t be too different from movies.”
[source youtube.com, via gematsu.com]
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Well I should hope not. She's blind.
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My mother couldn't tell the difference between the first Resident Evil and a movie, but that's another story.
My mum walked in on me playing PES 2003 and thought I was watching live football so Kojima probably isn’t far off the mark here.
So long as he remembers that one of the things that made Metal Gear really successful was the gameplay loop and the story exposition via long cut scenes.
MGS5 had the gameplay loop sorted but was seriously lacking in story quality and exposition. The tapes were not enough. They were severely lacking and the storyline wasn't good. Forgetting that the Konami "Survive" thing even exists, MGS5 is easily the weakest in the series in terms of storyline.
Death Stranding as a storyline didn't really grab me and felt, being honest, worse than MGS5.
My mother wouldn't give two hoots frankly. She didn't care about games when I was growing up, and cares even less now. Bless her.
I'm still glad my wife didnt walked in on me playing the Yakuza 0 Gandhara video minigame 😅 Looks like Infinite wealth has something similar too with the online dating stuff - so never mind people not being able to tell the difference in Koj's stealth game
He's probably going to film everything and try to get the gameplay look as close as possible. That might be the biggest explanation as why he workes with Sony pictures. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony will be doing this more, as it might reduce development cost. I think Alan wake 2 did this as well. I haven't play it yet so don't know if the results are good.
So a very expensive FMV game then
It all sounds like a personal passion project, and he’s clearly doing what he wants to so all power to him. I genuinely am glad he gets to do his thing, but as I’ve said before I just wish what he was doing was something I was into.
In all honesty, the way he tells stories, no big studio in the world would ever let him release a big budget blockbuster movie in that style, not these days, so games are probably the only way he can tell a story the way he really wants.
I love movies, maybe more so than games. But when I’m playing a game, I don’t want it to be a movie. I settle down on my PlayStation to play a game… so unfortunately this is sounding less and less like something I’m going to be interested in.
I find it kind of frustrating in a way, because Kojima is, clearly, a one of a kind and when he’s making actual games I really do think there’s nothing else quite like it. But he’s certainly earned his chance to do things the way he wants. Hopefully he’ll prove me wrong and it’ll be incredible!
It takes a visionary to reinvent the "yo mama" joke
I love that trend where people show GTA crashes to their parents/grandparents and they think it is the actual news lol
He just said that because he knew there would be tons of cool personal stories in the comments
I remember my mom walked in on me as a kid when I was playing GTA Vice City on the mission where you get a chainsaw... that was a um...not fun discussion that day. 😂
Love this dude, can’t wait!
He’s smash talking my mother now?
Well, YOUR momma is…
Kojima is 60? WTH
@Korgon I was summoning dead gods in Eternal Darkness when I had that discussion and she thought I was joining a cult or something.
Well my dad watched me play rdr2 for 20 min ,until he realised it was a game , then left the room with the biggest eye roll I'd ever seen, my mum doesn't know the difference between am and pm now ,so she's no chance.
Probably the most pretentious game developer out there. He'd eat his own hype if he could.
I personally don't think it's a good thing if a game looks like a movie.
For sure it is impressive what can be achieved these days (Matrix Demo), but I play games do dice into another world, not reality.
Guess that's why I'm more into Fantasy Games and JRPG. Also, I think Nintendo really nails it and I hope they will never try to make a photorealistic Game!
It's common for my mum to fall asleep whilst a movie is on, so he might be correct here.
Everyone prepare yourself for years of Kojima grandstanding about how his next project will be the second coming. Still trying to understand what was the great taboo of MGSV that according to Kojima he would've had to tackle correctly lest he leave the gaming industry forever. Love the man's ideas and his adore his games, but as I get older Kojima is just a smelly old fart to me.
What did you say about my mother?!
He is the worst at marketing his games. He uses the same "closest thing to a movie" line for every one. There is almost no way it can be more of a movie than metal gear solid 4 with its 8 hours of cutscenes including a 71 minute uninterrupted cutscene.
Does he think his target audience is children or that they are adults that live with their mother?
I hate to tell Kojima, but this already happened to me just a few years ago. When I was first playing through Judgement and one time when I was playing my mom asked me what show I was watching during a cutscene
I walked past a GameStop in 1999 and out of the corner of my eye saw NFL 2K on a Dreamcast playing on a small tv screen and I thought for a second it was a real football game. Haven’t been truly impressed by anything game related since. 🤷🏻♂️
Couple years ago i was playing god of war 3 and my father ask me what movie is that im watching.i told him its a video game he said what it look so real.haha😀.word up son
PS6 confirmed!
Basically it's MGS4 but with less gameplay and more cutscenes. Also Hayter snake vs Kiefer snake, round 2.
Your mother jokes? How ‘90s!
I just hope that this hollywood obsession from Kojima does not come at the cost of the gameplay and a reasonable (at least) story. I like Death Stranding, but the story is nuts and the gameplay only became great with the director's cut edition while the graphs were always great.
I can trade insane graphs for a fun and challenging gameplay anytime.
Nah man, my mom has an eagle eye for this kind of stuff. My mom figured out Minions wasn’t an animated movie before anyone else found out. Those little yellow guys are the real deal. Kojima won’t be able to pull a fast one on her!
As much as I love Kojima, the man doesn't understand the value of brevity and should clearly find an editor he trusts.
I'm not sure why the article says it's "confusing" about what he said. He's clearly not making a separate game and a separate movie - he clarifies that himself. He's making a game.
All his games have always been virtually movies with the hours and hours of cutscenes. With today's graphics though, I'm sure this will his closest to a live action film yet.
That's the biggest problem with most of his games, focusing on being so cinematic that gameplay is often lacking. I don't want to watch movie while I'm playing the game, there is no charm in this concept. Kojima should shift priorities from Hollywood to devs studio, and I don't want to see his name popping in 27 times before the game will start. This guys ego is enormous. Death Stranding is so disappointing, I don't want to even play second part with this boring story, super weird characters and music pretending to be elevating whole experience from empty void - it doesn't work. Bring espionage game to the table asap or start making movies.
I wish my mum could witness this but she died of starvation from being locked in supermarket
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