
There have been rumours about Microsoft’s shift in strategy for weeks now, but things really intensified overnight. While it was previously reported that Tango Gameworks’ rhythm-action game Hi-Fi Rush and Rare’s oceanic online escapade Sea of Thieves would come to PS5, fresh speculation has pegged Todd Howard’s tentpole sci-fi RPG Starfield and even MachineGames’ upcoming Indiana Jones outing for Sony’s system.
And it sounds like it won’t end there! According to VGC’s Andy Robinson, even “more of [Xbox’s games] are coming than reported”. There have been whispers Microsoft Flight Simulator could make the jump, and we wouldn’t be surprised if smaller titles like Pentiment eventually got ported as well. It seems unthinkable to even consider the likes of Halo and Forza Horizon, but until we know the extent of Microsoft’s strategy, all bets are off right now.
There’s been some speculation that Senua’s Saga: Hellblade II could also eventually release on PS5, but these rumours feel much more like guesswork than any others.
We’ll obviously try to contact Microsoft and see if we can learn more, but as alluded to above, we suspect it’s going to have to put out a statement imminently, because things have gotten out of control this weekend. We’ll update as and when we can.
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You have my interest with Hellblade II. And maybe Indiana Jones. I don’t have much interest in everything else.
Like I said on the other thread, Starfield was the true test, I think. If that didn’t move consoles and GamePass subscriptions, then nothing will. Theres nothing bigger in the pipeline until ES6. So releasing everything on the console that actually sells copies of games makes sense.
I’d buy the master chief collection again on PlayStation for the giggles.
This is like Deja Vu with Sega after the Dreamcast flop.
Phew, what a way of effectively killing their own platform, and don’t get me wrong, I own all 3 consoles so to me it’s perfectly fine that more people get to play good games but with this move there’s no reason to get a console that’ll get fewer games as neither Sony or Nintendo will stop having exclusives, which will trickle down into less third-party support (the ones that MS couldn’t buyout) and just less interest in the platform leaving us with just Sony and Nintendo in the console space.
And while it may sound like a good outcome for some fanboys it absolutely isn’t, can you imagine how Sony will behave having absolute control of the high-end console market? They’re already abusive being the dominant player but being the only one with no direct competition is downright terrifying.
Honestly overall as a console player I’m worried, both for my library of owned Xbox games and the future of the console space, I really REALLY don’t want to switch to PC but consoles are about to take a big hit.
@Xbox_Dashboard The thing is Xbox isn’t flopping that hard, sales are better than the Dreamcast and they just acquired tons of IPs and talent (the ones they didn’t lay off), sure they’re not having Sony’s success but it’s still far off of being a flop and yet they’re just giving up on their whole ecosystem, frankly it’s baffling what’s going on there.
This would be nice but this is all speculation until confirmation. That said id probably only play Starfield if it was on extra. Hifi rush looks a blast tho. The first Hellblade was ok but im fine with them keeping the sequel I highly doubt halo and gears are going anywhere tho XD
Hellblade 2 makes sense because it's a sequel, to a game that's already on PlayStation and it's short so it won't hold GamePass subscribers attention for long anyway.
I would play starfield again I liked it
I will say as an xbox owner this would signal to me no point in buying a new xbox ever again
@IOI Xbox isn't flopping. But the Series is definitely not succeeding. They have however positioned themselves as a potentially very high grade publisher.
What the point of Xbox again if all Xbox exclusives coming to PlayStation.
at first i’d say this is good news (or rumor) but considering how modern $onys been these past couple years , i hope this doesn’t happen
@IOI it already seems like sony has absolute control , honestly . ever since the ps4 gave them massive success they’ve been coasting on their high horse ever since . the ps5 is just selling itself for merely existing
@nomither6 Exactly, now can you imagine what they could do if they’d actually have absolute control? Just not a good outcome for anyone who owns a console no matter the brand.
@IOI Estimated to be about 2.2 million consoles behind the Xbox one in the same time frame but the Series console sales are slowing instead of picking up even though they pushed Starfield really hard and bought 2 massive publishers they're still losing more and more console market share to Sony.
Now for Nintendo... bwahahahaha
This year we have a new Final Fantasy 7 on PlayStation and then MS reminds me of Sega.
What some people need to understand is companies only care about not losing money. MS will make even more money = more gp games = gp is everywhere= people less interested in not nintendo consoles.
Internet tec is catching. Sony needs reasons for people to keep buying and they have their own problems, the service dream is over, bungie doesn' know how to do business anymore, etc.
Sony president has said cloud is the next focus, well MS has the lead so this is far from "Sony not trying because they won".
@nomither6 couple years? You mean the lockdown years that made every multi million project in existence get delay?
They should go 3rd party and put their silly pass on ps and switch. It's more money for everyone and more choice for the consumer.
The console isn't doing anything for them.
I mentioned this happening on the pure Xbox forums a few months back and I was flamed. Never gonna happen, etc etc. Tomorrow I guess they will get wind of this. I have my popcorn ready!
If they aren't even going to keep their own exclusives on their own platform/service exclusively, then what's the point? I know some people will say that it shouldn't matter and it's all console war crap, but to make their fans wait all of these years for good exclusives and then have them be multiplatform in the end anyways kind of stinks for them.
@MrMagic As I said it’s not a success, I’d even say the performance is disappointing comparing it to the Xbone but it’s still far from being a flop, if you want to see a flop take a look to the Wii U, Virtual Boy, Dreamcast or PS Vita; which is why this is even more baffling, you didn’t see Sony giving up when the PS3 didn’t do well initially nor Nintendo having their worst financial crisis with the Wii U, both companies held and bounced back, but Microsoft, the most valuable company in the world as of last week, is giving up in their gaming ecosystem after spending $75 Billion dollars, I don’t get it.
The Xbox is becoming an Exbox? Pining for the fjords?
Halo Infinite would be very popular on PS5. I could see that being played by millions of people and competing with Apex Legends & Warzone.
@IOI The difference is that AAA games are way more expensive to develop now. They need multi millions in sales to turn a profit.
I guess an install base like the Xbox series is kind of on the level of a dreamcast back then. Creating exclusive games for it is a big risk. Game pass makes it worse as it cuts on the traditional sales returns.
So, they either settle for a system that hardly makes a profit or try to make game pass gigantic by putting it on every system to grow it and in a larger userbase for traditional sales as well. It's just more money. The console is holding them back.
With that said, i dunno how happy sony and nintendo would be to host gamepass on their systems. They will want a cut.
With all this said, i'm sure they will continue to support Xbox series while it runs the games. I would expect something more in the line of not making a sucessor.
@jFug and I feel fine😅😅
Give them trophies and I'll buy every single Forza.
Not sure if it's me being nostalgic, or if it's by chance that this game clicked with me, but it makes me wonder: why on Earth nobody's talking about Gears of War?! I haven't played the last two entry, but to me the original trilogy is easily one of the best trilogies in the history of videogames.
Actually so good that I would happily buy a gamepass just to play them or buy them separately at full price on Ps5. Hopefully the Gears of War trilogy remake proves to be true and we get a remade (or remaked?!) trilogy on PS5.
There are only 3 franchises I'm remotely interested in on the xbox and that's halo,forza and gears of war. If those came to the ps5 I'd buy them without hesitation.
Not really shocking. Game Pass is stagnating, console sales are mediocre and their blockbuster hits (Redfall, Halo Infinite, Starfield) have all been letdowns. MS is all about money and they will be earning even more just publishing games while fanboys will be flaming or crying online. Glad I game on a Steam Deck exclusively and all this console drama is of little concern to me. I’m waiting for a Netflix docudrama on this, though. Hope Jamie Foxx gets to play Phil Spencer lol.
@gymratAmarillo you have no idea what im even referring to
@IOI Yeah when Sony wasn't doing well the CEO and a couple of top executives slashed their own wages by 50% and waived their annual bonus to avoid mass layoffs. The CEO said the workforce are the key to making PlayStation a success so they are going to push forward, now PlayStation is Sony's most successful division so it paid off.
Microsoft on the other hand are a software company first and foremost and software is their speciality, they also have much more lucrative divisions and are obsessed with exponential growth, sure Sony obviously wants to grow as well but Microsoft shareholders are obviously used to much bigger returns, plus I doubt Satya would willingly take a pay cut and waive his bonus.
Edit: Actually I just remembered Satya actually had GamePass targets removed from his bonus because it was failing to hit them so he was getting less money. He gets about a $50 million dollar bonus annually by the way.
Hmm i dunno. I think this is kinda dumb for xbox. Why even bother to get a new shiny xbox while you can play the game on sony console? Lol. Such a slap to the face of xbox owner
MS are stinking rich. More games on PS. More stinking rich. So rich they will end up buying Sony outright. Food for thought…….
As I have said before, I think the age of the exclusive is dead unless your name is Nintendo.
This is good news for everyone but the gatekeeping fanboys.
Makes financial sense. It will work like Sony strategy to porting to PC a year or 2 later.
It recovers costs for MS (let’s be honest the GP figures never factor in development costs etc) but Sony will also take a cut from the Sales.
I either wouldnt buy any of them or i would buy them used. No way would i put even a dime in to MS pocket now days if i didnt have to. Call me petty, i dont care.
@Resurrected-X460 Yeah. The origional 3 Gears of war are damn fine games.
If this did happen I'll look forward to seeing the people who slammed starfield and these other games going on to buy them and suddenly state they're the best thing ever purely because they're on playstation, you know it's gonna happen.
Basically they want to be a publisher on Playstation and Nintendo consoles whilst having a subscription service for Xbox Consoles (no point), PC, Mobile and TV's.
@IOI I’m tired of this oh Sony will become evil it just sounds like Xbox fanboy drivel because they are big mad about this and scared MS will quit the hardware business. Sony and Nintendo would both have to continue to compete for gamers time and money as well as against the studios MS owns which would be competing with Sony and Nintendo’s exclusives for gamers money and time. Not to mention Apple or someone else could try to come and replace MS so no they wouldnt become “evil”. Also please tell me how Sony is “abusive” which is just totally over the top to say and don’t name stuff other companies did first like 70 dollar games or raising prices that MS also eventually did
@IOI Not to mention the fact that MS's finances blow early 2000's SEGA out of the water.
@IOI dude they are flopping and it’s comical trying to compare it to the Dreamcast when gaming was a lot smaller back than like come on lmao.
Although it sounds to me that Bethesda aren't happy with the revenue it's getting from its newest games, maybe it's something they agreed with Microsoft before the acquisition that if their games fail to reach a certain revenue then they get to go on playstation consoles.
We've all been reading for awhile now how PS outsells the Xbox every month by a wide margin in numerous regions - so, combined with all the money they've spent on acquisitions, bringing their games to other platforms makes sense. In the long run, I can see them doing like Sega & ditching the hardware to focus on their software.
@nomither6 really were they the ones to launch their brand new console with not even one exclusive no that was MS. Did MS release more exclusives these first three years no that was Sony. Sony has provided the portal and psvr 2 for their customers while MS as given more controller colors woohoo. Does MS try in smaller countries in regards to localization or marketing hell no but Sony does. So take that concern trolling somewhere else sony hasn’t rested on their laurels for even one second this gen
@gymratAmarillo my dude have you tried xcloud it’s mediocre especially compared to Sonys cloud solution. It’s always talked and joked about on resetera how that could even be possible but it is
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@dark_knightmare2 Always makes me laugh when people say Sony have gotten lazy, they are providing more ways to play on PS5, added more services on PS5, revamped PS Now into Extra/Premium which are miles better than PS Now, getting more bigger third party exclusives and seems like they are pushing the Asian market again like the old days.
Also I agree about Xcloud, the service on mobile is horrible, 720p only and has lag for audio and input when using Bluetooth headphones/controllers. Their biggest push for the cloud was the vast player base on mobiles but have failed quite hard.
@Deityjester of course there’s fanboys everywhere but why is that the first thing your mind went to and made you feel the need to comment about it
@UltimateOtaku91 right and they are also making a push into Africa as well as India and Korea while MS continues to ignore all of them but hey Sony has rested on it’s laurels and have been abusive according to two people in this thread lmao
If this havens the Xbox brand is dead. Why would they kill 20+ year old brand?
I think this was always the plan for Microsoft. The only suprise is that it's come mid way through thier console cycle. Microsoft clearly want to be the Netflix of games but gaming is very different from films & TV.
It certainly doesn't bode well for future hardware, I mean why would you bother buying an XBox of you can get the same games on Playstation?
I think Pentiment and other smaller titles were going to come anyway. I specifically remember their wording on the showcase it was shown referring to exclusivity, it was very vague. A couple of weeks later, I went to the official Pentiment page on the Xbox website where it said: Timed exclusive for Xbox consoles and PC. I pointed that out and everyone was like "nah, probably a mistake".
@XenonKnight Because the money has always been in software and not hardware.
@dschons No one cares about that thing.
@LifeGirl It's looking like the Xbox series is the last generation of Xbox hardware.
@XenonKnight K.
@IOI I think they are opting to go for publishing games and for having a console anymore I think that would not be weird choice.
@XboxistheBestBox The guy was destroyed and he changes his answer with whatever works for him that's why.
Nintendo destroys them on all fronts with a low level console and Sony is also beating them with a stick.
Microsoft is here to make money not to lose it and if releasing games without a console is making them more money then i would not be surprised if they quit the console business, or they are playing nice to buy up another massive developer.
Microsoft or better said American companies are not to be trusted just like the other countries.
I'd love to play the master chief collection on ps5. It sounds nuts but seeing as the MP has cosmetics etc it's not a bad idea to make them some money on an old game. Used to love the campaigns back in the day.
Personally I see this as evidence that the subscription service is and always was a bubble and unless market dominance is reached, probably unustainable.
If we look at the cost of Starfield or maybe the upcoming Indiana Jones games, offering them for just a monthly sub service that people can drop in and out of just can't work unless you can turn those subs into regular payers. But that is not how people use subscriptions - a lot of people sign up for limited periods.
The issue is here that you are now eliminating the very reason to take that sub out in the first place. If I am a PS5 owner then why bother getting a second machine for exclusives or anything. I can just wait a year. The same is true on PC - Starfield has already seen price reductions on Steam or other platforms meaning why take out a sub when you can get the game fairly cheap? Which means MS is now moving itself to become a publisher which can be profitable but moves them away from Xbox brand.
@CharlieChooChoo They still will be using a out of date game engine that hold back what the game could be with modern game engine. Bethesda should be using ID Tech or UE5.
FOR CLARITY. I'm saying multiplatform stuff for Xbox is happening, not the "Sarah Bond will announce it."
It would be awful to let Sarah take the heat for this, since it's failure of Xbox projects Sarah wasn't even vaguely involved in, since 2012, that has led to this.
Microsoft has essentially decided they aren't going to make enough money with the current strategy. They want to build healthier margins and cash flow using Sony's install base, to then reinvest in growing the Xbox ecosystem using that money.
https://twitter.com/jezcorden/status/1754232651941106171?s=46
If Microsoft or Sony want to be at the level of Tencent, they must start publishing their games on all platforms and invest more in mobile games.
@XenonKnight
Microsoft applies Tencent's strategy because it is the only way it can return the 70 billion dollars invested. Tencent must also be a role model for Sony when it comes to earnings.
@Rayman123 No one should view any company run by the ccp as a role model.
@XenonKnight
Sony, like Microsoft, should apply Tencent's strategy if it wants to be at Tencent's level when it comes to earnings. I don't see a problem with Sony also starting to publish their games on other platforms if it's about profit. Sony can gain a lot from that.
Well this looks like the beginning of a new friendship and the end of an era.
Sony and Nintendo will remain the only big boys of the gaming industry sooner than later as it seems.
Microsoft will become another game developer like Sega which is not a bad thing IMO.
Who could have guessed money was the driving force for a company! In the end the console wars mean nothing in the face of a bottom line.
@guardianoftime
It's not good for us consumers because the next PlayStation can cost at least $600-$700 if there is no competition.
@Rayman123 lmao that won't happen u guys just like to think of the extreme can we just wait and see what happens these are all just reporting on till Ms say something it all fake
@jFug... and I feel fine.
Interesting if true but there’s actually few Xbox games I’d be interested in and miss from not having an Xbox since the 360…
Forza, Indy and hi-fi rush are the only games that come to mind. I bored of halo after halo 2 but forza was superb.
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I'd definitely pick up a few Xbox games in a sale, Forza Horizon, Flight SIM, Starfield, Elder Scrolls, Hellblade and Avowed.
But only one game that's a must for me which has me working out if I can upgrade my PC or buy a Xbox, STALKER 2. Played the original 3 to death, with and without mods and nothing has ever captured that magic since. If that comes to PS5 I'd be a happy boy.
Guess spending all those billions finally caught up to them, or maybe this was the plan all along 🤔 now we wait and see if there’s any Xbox consoles next gen
@PVTHudson STALKER 2 will come to PS5 after the Xbox version.
https://www.psu.com/news/is-stalker-2-coming-to-ps5-and-ps4/
@DonkeyFantasy
As far as I'm concerned, Microsoft and Sony can publish their games on all platforms because that's the only way to make even more money, e.g. PC+ mobile gaming makes more money than console gaming
Timdog on why Xbox is going third-party
Tim has heard that Call of Duty may not be coming to game pass.
Hardware sales have not met the projected sales and the CFO got spooked.
In the last three months of last year, they had consoles for $350 and no one cared.
Xbox One was more wanted than Series consoles.
They said the hardware is dead, and they are seeing declines in hardware year over year.
Game pass is unsustainable; the market they have is not enough to offset the cost.
Tim heard from someone at Microsoft that you may not like Xbox when they get Activision. They want ROI.
He heard that Xbox has an insane showcase with tons of games, but everyone is going to be saying asterisks.
The leaks happened because a Microsoft employee who didn't want this to happen leaked it, so there would be a public outcry.
Microsoft now has no problem buying more companies in the future if all games go to all platforms.
Tim thinks they will go all-digital, with ads on game pass (pre-roll or at the end of a chapter e.g. Like a Dragon) and AI community managers.
https://twitter.com/IdleSloth84_/status/1754361009215541532
@XenonKnight
I don't care about Sony and Microsoft because I don't want to be on the side of either Sony or Microsoft. They are the same for me. I still believe that Microsoft and Sony should invest more in mobile gaming because it brings the highest profit.
@Rayman123 still miles away from a gaming pc from pricing perspective. I’d still buy one as will all PS gamers. Lots are already purchasing both the PS5 and Xbox to have all the exclusives hence paying $1000 for both systems.
@DonkeyFantasy
I don't care about Sony and Microsoft because I'm not their fan. Sony should release its games on PC and PS5 same day that Microsoft does.
@XenonKnight maybe because their sales have absolutely cratered in only year three when they should be increasing. I mean I enjoy the console but let’s look at the facts besides the US and UK where the brand is somewhat popular the rest of the world just doesn’t care about Xbox and most of that has to do with MS not caring about them. The 360 was a flash in a pan fluke and had more to do with Sony messing up in the beginning than anything MS did and besides that gen they’ve been a distant third and cap out at 40 to 50 million consoles. Sony and Nintendo are just synonymous with gaming while Xbox isn’t and honestly most casuals think it looks like a early 2000’s edgy brand
@Rayman123 You don't care about Sony and Microsoft but at the same time, you want them to invest in mobile gaming so they can make more profit? How does that make sense?
I fail to see how them focusing on mobile gaming would bring any benefit to us as console gamers.
@Rayman123 yeah no lol they were right not to looking at how console and game sales have absolutely cratered on Xbox they were smart not to do day and date with pc or their sub service and if they did they wouldn’t have been able to fall back on going third party like MS because they don’t have enough studios
@dark_knightmare2 They had good 1st party games for the 360 and that make a difference.
@guardianoftime that isn’t really true for Xbox when their sales have plummeted
@XenonKnight it helped but that isn’t the main reason it was successful it was the massive mistakes Sony made in the beginning plus launching a year later with a ridiculous price point. After Sony lowered the price,released the slim and started releasing banger after banger exclusive they outsold MS every month besides in the US which at the time was MS stronghold which isn’t true for them anymore
@DonkeyFantasy yeah like I understand Xbox fanboys not fans are upset and trying to do the Sony will too thing but unlike Xbox the ps is a very desirable console with desirable exclusives
@Rayman123 yeah no Sony is only behind tencent when it comes to revenue they absolutely don’t have to do what MS is doing because they have a brand that’s popular and desirable unlike MS.
@dark_knightmare2 one of the reasons they might go software only. Again, those are all speculations and none of the above or below are facts.
If true, then MS will most likely just becoming a third party publisher. The Xbox will become a mediabox, kind of like apple does with apple tv.
I can't say I saw this coming if true. Considering how many rumors of this "shift in strategy" have appeared though I'm starting to believe there is some fire with that smoke.
The crazy thing is I was honestly considering picking up a Series either this year or next as I really want to play Hellblade 2 but now? I want to see how all of this shakes out before I put forth any cash for one.
MS are setting up for the future they have lost interest in console sales. SteamOS is what they will want to build.
Portabale PC's are getting popular and the eventual move of all PC games from x86/64 to the ARM platform will end consoles probably in the next decade.
There's a big chest with billions of dollars there to be opened and many MS executives are wondering what are they waiting for to open it.
Halo and Forza on PS?????? Gran Turismo and Cowadoody breathing their last miserable breath.
If they bring forza horizon and flight simulator I’ll be very happy
A lot is happening quickly it sounds like. Makes sense to me that the biggest obstacle between Microsoft and Sony working together was probably Jim Ryan. The new Sony CEO is probably a lot more open to making deals with Phil instead of having a p*****g match with him!
Can you name the source that isnt twitter oh wait.... The source is Trust Me Clown. Till Microsoft announces themselves or somebody comes up with the "Source" im not believing anything.
@CharlieChooChoo nobody has ever said this in the past 6 years. If you like spending real money to buy cars in a fully priced AAA game or grind it for hundreds of hours in repetitive missions, added with the worst economy known in a videogame, which even puts War Thunder to shame, then go on, you can say GT is "better" than Forza.
Im cool with that.more games is always welcome.word up son
Eventualy a company (and it's investors) will want to see a return on investment. MS invested over 20 years in a console that just can't fly. It's doing fine but not great. Phil Spencer suckered MS into spending billions to buy more game companies with the promiss of success and both MS and the fans bought into it but in the end the game isn't about how many studios or ip's you have but what is the quality of the output and the quality is very Xbox like (mediocre and bad). If you lack the tallent to manage studios, buying more studios doesn't help, it makes it even more difficult. Maybe if the studios they bought where in great shape but they weren't. So now they try to go multi platform but still the road to succes is great games and I still don't see that. Before you mention a few outlyers that are great, they are just few and far apart.
It's a shame as a PlayStation owner I rooted for Xbox and I was ready to buy a Xbox Series One if the games would be great, I still haven't got a Xbox.
Microsoft has to offset Game Pass's deleterious effect on game sales and expanding to other platforms accomplishes that. It also has the benefit of making Microsoft look like good guys when they inevitably try to buy another publisher since regulators gave them a free pass already.
@IOI Xbox and the gaming division have never been about hardware or titles. They’re just methods to get MS services into the living room. It wouldn’t surprise me if the PS5 didn’t get native ports but just relied on streaming.
Halo on PlayStation would be the most shocking thing since Sonic on Nintendo lol
@Ainu20
To be honest, Microsoft and Sony would make more money from mobile gaming than console gaming. This is the reason why I want Microsoft and Sony to start investing more in mobile gaming. This would make Sony even more popular in Asia, since mobile gaming is far more popular than console gaming.
Soon to be titled ex-box
I would love to play Pentiment and Senua’s Saga: Hellblade II on PS5.
@CharlieChooChoo
Both Forza and GT are great games, i.e. both games are not perfect because each has its strengths and weaknesses.
@TheCollector316
If Sony have money like Microsoft or Tencent, it would surely buy half the gaming industry.
@extragood
Exclusives should become a thing of the past, i.e. Xbox, PlayStation games must be available on all platforms.
I wonder if the PS fan base will change their tune on day-and-date exclusives when they start getting Xbox games day 1.
@Rayman123 Nintendo games should be on all platforms too
@Rayman123 But why? Do you have shares in MS or Sony or something?
When I think about what I want from these companies, my first reaction is "I want them to make great games", not "I want them to make more profit".
@Rayman123
It's hard to say as there are cultural differences, but maybe so. I'd like to think they would keep cultivating talent at smaller studios and then acquiring them as they have almost always done in the past with the exception of Bungie, but that reads as a knee-jerk reaction to Microsoft's $80B shopping spree.
@Rayman123 but then how would a company in a capitalist market be able to differentiate its product from another. What you’re talking about is communism basically. All for one! On the farms!!
@ArcticSin
It would be ideal when, for example, Pokémon would be available on all platforms, because then we wouldn't get games that are copies of the Pokémon games on PC, PlayStation and Xbox.
@Mikey856
What I wanted to say is that for example PC gamers should be playing Sony games on the same day as PlayStation gamers, not waiting 1-2 years for them to come to PC. And if Sony's games come to PC on the same day, people will still buy PlayStation
Awesome! Sony one step closer to full monopoly over the console market. Great for us consumers. Hopefully Nintendo follows suit.
@TheCollector316
My opinion is that Sony will have to buy some big publisher at some point if it doesn't want for example Tencent to buy the remaining big publishers. Tencent is far worse than Microsoft when it comes to acquisitions.
Anyone who didn't see this coming hasn't been paying attention. I think for some games this may have been the plan all along, as in have it release as a Xbox/PC exclusive, mop up all the sales dollars you can, and then release it on competitors months later to maximize revenue.
I think the likelihood is greatest of existing multiplats being released on PS5, plus some new franchises, as rumoured. There may be a handful of exceptions (like Sea of Thieves). But I don’t think there’s any way we’ll see the likes of Halo, Forza, or Gears on PS5.
@Rayman123 endgame is to be able to play the next Zelda game on my steam deck natively.
@Deityjester hate fanboys. I have no interest in starfield but if we got ps5 versions of halo infinite and Forza horizon 4 etc I'd be all in
Interesting, Gears is now being rumoured for PS.
@IOI I think it's the right move, I hope they launch about half of their exclusive games on Ps. Especially the multiplayer ones. I'm similar, I have Series X, PlayStation 5 and Nintendo Switch hooked up to my set and Xbox One and PlayStation 4 hooked up to my kids' set… and a 3060-equipped PC. All of them are in use (got two kids). Some games are a better fit for a certain platform, some will always be exclusive and preference should steer – in my circle of friends Sony-only-friends seem to be more hostile and averted to other consoles, giving them a taste of "the other side" might be a good thing (they usually resort to "waaaah Xbox is soooo baaaaad", "there are no games" and childish nonsense). I've been playing Battlefield on PS5 with 'em and I'd really prefer playing Halo.. but I'd rather play together than alone (I prefer Xbox… but most of my friends prefer PlayStation… soooo… I adapt). Sea of Thieves would be dope. Xbox won't vanish, it has a place in the market (in my eyes it's more advanced, I don't care for gimmicks). Xbox exclusive games doesn't matter for me, I'd rather see more players enjoy them than Xbox hoarding them.
it seems like this would just be a natural business decision. no matter how many xbox consoles are sold or how many pc/gamepass subscribers they get, why wouldn't you sell your games on other systems? you cant ignore the user base of playstation or Nintendo and they will be selling their games at a tasty £70 a pop! sure not everyone is gonna like/want everything but probably the vast majority are going to want something from their lineup, so its just extra money in the bank. yes, you could argue Microsoft don't need any extra money lol but they didn't get to where they are today without making money wherever they can 😉 and its not like they are lying about making games exclusive for xbox, a years exclusively on Xbox then hand it out to everyone else
@flawse As I said, having games released on other platforms is fine, but to get to the point where anything is exclusive will only diminish the brand to the point it’s not worth selling a console anymore, thus making Sony the only player in the high-end console market allowing them to set the prices and conditions they want as there wouldn’t be an alternative.
They are ok with Xbox being dead when they are selling PS5 games and making far more money by doing so. They will just drop the Xbox brand and fold everything into Microsoft games be 100% 3rd party.
Plus all the switch 1/2 games they will sell. You don't need a Xbox brand without the console hardware.
Would be funny if halo infinite sold more copies on ps store in couple months than it has since released on Xbox lol. I say some Sony fans would buy it just because…it’s crazy you can play it on ps5 and 4. I’d buy it. I like halo once in awhile for nostalgia reasons.
@XenonKnight
You can already play Xbox games on Samsung TVs without owning an Xbox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui5ikFLCUek
@Grumblevolcano
Gears, as an excellent series, should definitely come to PlayStation since Sony no longer makes Killzone
@XenonKnight
Starfield would be a great game of Bethesda ditched its game engine
@XenonKnight
The PlayStation will also no longer be needed because Sony will surely publish its games on the PC on the same day as for the PlayStation. PC will replace both PlayStation and Xbox completely.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2215448/playstation-boss-says-games-are-coming-to-pc-mobile-and-cloud.html
The idea of finally being able to play XBOX games with a DualSense is appealing. Certainly it makes me feel like I wasted 500€ on the XSX. But I was already feeling like that to begin with, to be totally honest.
Provided this shift is even happening for real.
Cheers.
@Rayman123 I’m skeptical about that happening. PC gaming is incredibly expensive to get into from scratch. Most gamers complain current gen consoles are too expensive. Also most gamers don’t have the knowledge to build or even just pick an already built gaming PC. They’d be losing a ton of players. That would make Nintendo a very happy camper.
Cheers.
@Rayman123 oh wait, I see what you mean now. Cloud gaming would be the alternative for those gamers I was talking about. Jesus Murphy that’d be a very bleak and sad paradigm shift. Hopefully it won’t happen. It might turn me off completely from playing new titles.
Cheers mate.
@IOI yeah, it wouldn’t go that far. No reason to. No worries! 😉
Good news. More games for the best platform.
"I am become Multiplatform the ender of console wars"
~ Microsoft cca 2024
Is all about MONEY.budda dum dum darada dum lol
It's worrying that people support the idea of Xbox becoming 3rd party and stopping the production of consoles when people have spent the last 20 years buying games on Xbox. If this happened to Sony and PlayStation this site would have an absolute meltdown.
I primarily play on PC but it's just insane to me how short-sighted people are in the console space, like what do you think would happen to people's games they've bought once console services discontinued? Hint: they don't own them
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