
Polish video game developer and publisher CD Projekt Red says its new Boston-based development studio will make the sequel to Cyberpunk 2077 (codenamed Orion) more authentically American. While the decaying vision of the Cyberpunk future depicted is a relatively far cry from our reality, some players felt their immersion wasn't helped by CDPR's use of some distinctly European manhole covers (and even they were a bit off).
In the most recent episode of the AnsweRED podcast (spotted by Wccftech, thanks VGC), executive producer Dan Hernberg explained why capturing that spirit of Americana is so essential: "I think Cyberpunk is a uniquely American story. It's got a lot of punk energy, and an American wrote it, so it seems right to do it in America."
Associate game director Paweł Sasko cited a specific instance where this cropped up right after the launch of the first game: "There was this post with the guy saying that there is this immersive breaking bug in Cyberpunk, and the bug was about the fact that the covers for manholes for a sewer were the manholes that you normally use in Europe, in Germany, for pavement. When you go to America, there are things like hydrants, where they are placed and how they look. The street lights, the positions, the trash bins, right? They're in the front of the house, right by the street. In Poland and Europe, you don't see it almost anywhere. There's so much nuance. Dan, when we talk about it, he calls it the Americana."
Manhole covers, streetlights, and trash cans might seem like small potatoes, but Hernberg says it's important to nail these minor features to create a believable space. Failing to do so can add an unintended element of wrongness: "It doesn't break immersion, but it's just that little thing where you're like, 'Well, maybe this wasn't made by people who live here or fully understand all of American culture'. I also think being in America allows us to have those cultural touchpoints with the larger American, you know, kind of influence with Hollywood. Cyberpunk 2077 took place in LA, so there's just all these cultural touchpoints and things we can interact with."
Does Cyberpunk strike you as a uniquely American story? It takes place there, obviously, but are these geographic and cultural particulars truly so important? Let us know in the comments section below.
[source youtube.com, via wccftech.com, videogameschronicle.com]
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i cant wait to play this in 15 years assuming i'm still alive on ps7
@twitchtvpat The PS6 launch will be horribly botched, and the PS7 version two years later will DEFINITELY be the best one to play.
What the F🦅🦅K is a KILOMETER!!!!
So less choom, delta, and nova but more rizz, cappin, and sus.....somehow a downgrade if I'm being honest.
People wonder way gaming is in a dire place right now when gaming nerds make big deals out of little details that 99 percent of the audience doesn’t notice or care about. Never once in my two playthroughs across about 180 hours did I ever notice the manhole covers were wrong and even if I did who gives a s**t
This is some seriously stupid nonsense. People are running around with bionic bodies and gamers are worried about the light posts? I get it when the game is buggy and broken and all of that but if you can’t enjoy a game b/c of the lack of “reality” just don’t game and take a walk outside.
I’m not opposed to them hiring more people and making the game in America but don’t worry about the small stuff make the game playable at launch.
The only people who did Americana justice were the Offspring. On a serious note, I fully agree with the guys above. This nonsensical obsession with authenticity these days is mind-boggling.
That seems like the first games smallest problem tbh. Those things never bothered me at all.
So even worse working conditions then?
Sigh, just make the game fun and the story good, don't sweat the stupid little details that gamers don't care about, like some manhole covers 🤦🏻
@dskatter can I borrow your crystal ball please? I'd like to know the winning lottery numbers every week (I'm like that.) Ps6 will be a dud will it? And the ps7 will be the one to have? I'd actually like to see the cyberpunk sequel based somewhere other than America. Canada,Mexico maybe even Australia.
@HotGoomba it's the American spelling of kilometre.
@Northern_munkey I think he meant the launch of cyberpunk2 (or whatever it’s called) will be bad on ps6 and good on 7.
Like the original with ps4/5
Good God, people complaining about this really need to reflect on their lives.
They may have taken attention to detail a step further than the first game. I think Sasko brings up an example like this to say that they are listening and aren't phoning in the sequel.
The first game is a milestone achievement and I can't wait for the next installment.
Ok but Why? Night city was fantastic
The writing, music, characters, voice acting and audio were all absolute quality in Cyberpunk 2077. I'm really hoping that the sequel is on par if not better but the change of studio has me concerned.
Definitely never cared about manhole covers while playing but okay.😐
Still looking forward to the sequel whenever it comes around!
I don't care what they do with the fire hydrants, mailboxes or manhole covers...
AS LONG AS THEY MAKE IT THIRD PERSON THIS TIME!!!!
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@EfYI
I think it is a kilometrestone achievement.
Well, Rockstar North from Edinburgh created a great satire of LA in GTA5, it didn’t need an American studio for it. Maybe this distant view helped to make this satire edgier.
So the main question for me is: What kind of place should Night City be? A wonderful sandbox, or an edgy satire of the American Dream?
@dark_knightmare2 CDPR need to work on actually making their next game actually work and be playable on release rather than obsessing over manholes and willy and testicle jiggle physics.
make it third person as well
Thats fine by me.home of the nba world champion boston Celtics 💚🖤.the best team in the nba.and easily one of the best teams ever made.word up son
@Max_the_German Needs to be cyberpunk, so the American dream would be totally anachronistic. The focus on Americana is nonsensical because in that setting nations have given way to corporations as the primary drivers of society.
I don't mind the little details they mention from an art design perspective but cyberpunk as a genre isn't about national culture whatsoever. They should focus on post-humanism, AI vs organic intelligence, extreme poverty and extreme technological wonders side-by-side. Plenty to explore there and the first game just scratched the surface.
Oh, and a game that actually runs at launch would be swell.
That does not sound great at all
And this is why games take 6-7 years to make, while nobody wants it to take that long.
I wish they would just take night city as is right now, improve it more and get us a new story. And release it after 3-4 years.
Instead it feels like they start from scratch again.
@glennthefrog For me, CP2077 is a cyberpunk world set in the American Dream. You could also create a cyberpunk world with a totalitarian society, connected by cyber implantations, suppressing individuals who want to think their own way and to use any kind of modification. Some kind of 1984.
But in CP2077, total individualism (incl. body modification) and freedom is celebrated, farmers defending their homes with guns, commerce rules, culture is replaced by kitsch, giant dildos everywhere.
Technology on its own is never interesting, it becomes interesting as part of individual decisions and social behavior.
As an American, I never once noticed that there were non-American elements to the scenery. Everything “felt” fine to me.
But, I guess if authenticity is important to the developer, then who am I to argue?
I guess all the commenters up in arms about them caring about little details have never heard the word "world building".
Me, I don't care either way, as CP lore is so far removed from actual reality that I don't think it "needs" to represent a specific culture. But then again, I haven't played the TTRPG so I don't know how its lore factors into it all.
Just don’t release it broken and I’ll be happy lol
What a ridiculous criticism. America is a meme for a reason by now.
IDK, it had everyone hopped up on drugs, underground meds, an extreme disparity of rich and poor in a world run by megacorps to the point organized crime looks like the most legit route, and everyone's shooting at each other, while cars run over people with abandon.
As an American, I didn't notice anything out of place.
IMO the "cyberpunk" setting really only works in the US or Asia. I don't think I could picture a real "European" cyberpunk. The whole idea is draped in the unrestrained mercantilist mentality of the US and parts of Asia. Technically middle east but the "Midgar"-ish setting just doesn't fit the environment there.
The only thing we know for sure is that the people that noticed the manhole covers were probably playing on PC because at the console resolutions, you'd never be able to tell anyway.
More American by adding more scumbags and drug addicts roaming the streets, breaking into your car & mob looting
@Northern_munkey I was mocking the utter failure that the PS4 launch of Cyberpunk was. You know, how it launched in an unfinished state?
Relax.
@dskatter OK my bad bud. The context was lost on me..
It's color, not colour, and that's important because we fought a damn war over that. Everyone thinks it was about taxes on tea. But that's fake news, we don't even know what tea is, nor do we have any idea why people would drink distilled leaf juice.
In conclusion... America.
@UnlimitedSevens no its COLOR and real football is NOT SOCCER.
@nomither6
Yessir. The only crayons in my box are the RED, WHITE, and BLUE. Frankly, just don't got no use for none of them other colors.
Happy Fourth everyone. For those of you across the pond who don't know, today is a holy day when we celebrate the imperial system of measurement, manifest destiny, and monster trucks the only way the Lord intended - by blowing stuff up in our backyards.
My only issue was with the lack of the usual things in LA like strip malls, animal collisions, pot holes, public transportation (buses, ride share), truck accidents, and roaches. Seriously where are all the critters of city life?
@UnlimitedSevens I LOLed out loud at that! I still find it more than vaguely humorous that people are obsessed with the Chinese cultural tradition of using Chinese made and invented fireworks, imported from China, to celebrate America.... Feels like we should have a traditional forth of July meal of borscht to accompany it, along with watching the festivities on BBC News.
@NEStalgia
Hey now, having everything we use come from China is a proud American tradition. Proud I tells ya.
@UnlimitedSevens Who really needed White and Blue? Just gets in the way.
That's good but it doesn't mean it will be better
This is nonsensical, its the future, wouldn't bins and lights and manhole covers be advanced and unrecognisable from modern day in this futuristic CYBERPUNK world? Idiotic really.
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