Rumour: PS5 Pro Design Seemingly Leaked

My hopes of playing Final Fantasy XVI at a consistent 60fps using my disc copy might are fading… Maybe there’ll be a disc attachment..?

Just announce the thing so we can preorder. Haha.

I can’t wait.

It better come with a disc drive. If not this is getting outta hand. Sony is just f…ing the customers. Nickle and diming every opportunity. Thats what happens when there is no competition

Looks like the current PS5 with 2 more stripes. I was hoping for something a bit more....less ugly? But who cares I'm still getting one.
(Yeah yeah have at me lol Blah blah unnecessary console blah blah the kids need new shoes zippidi do dah)

No disc drive would be an incredibly stupid decision as it would deter any owner of the original PS5 with a disc drive not to upgrade, resulting in far fewer sales. My guess is that this person only just saw the digital edition and is assuming there will be no separate disc version or the dev kit sent out didn’t have a disc drive as the original PS5 dev kit didn’t as well

So it basically looks the same as the standard model, but bigger?

I don't buy physical no more so I'm completely down for all digital.. will this also allow (if this pro is real)bro swap the covers?

No built in drive? so that will be another 100-150 for an external drive...

Isn't it already more or less confirmed that the addon discdrive for the "slim" is the same as for the upcoming Pro? Or did I just dream that up?!

I'm not worried about the lack of the drive because it will probably be compatible with the drives that are sold separately for the Slim.

I mean, Tom Henderson said months ago that it would come without a disc drive and with "only" 1TB of internal storage to reduce its initial price tag. The drive and an M2 SSD can be bought separately if the user wants.

I have like 20+ disc games which are my favorite ones, what should i do with them? I hope it comes with the additional addon disc drive as the slim.

@BloodyBlact I have around 5000 DVD's and Bluray's. I sure as hell doesn't want another box around my TV so the Pro better have a discdrive or no buy!!

I'll buy this if Nintendo stay quiet about Switch 2

@Zeke68 since there has been no official announcement for the console and this tweet is the first bit of information we are getting on it, then yes you did dream that up

So it’s the same size, most likely uses the slims detachable disc dive but won’t ship with one and has speed fins. Let the angst begin!!

No disc drive, no sale

No way will they sell this without a way to play disk based games. Be it a built in drive or making it compatible with the DD sold for the slim. It would fail harder than Concord. Ok, maybe not quite as hard.

Hopefully there is a disc drive. I have about 60 PS5 discs. I would go buy the disc attachment now to lessen the blow of buying a 600 dollar console in November but who knows, Sony may come out with a “version 2” disc attachment. Sony is kind an annoying me these days.

It absolutely wont have a disc drive and anyone expecting it is fooling themselves, especially when they've got a expensive disc drive attachment to fleece us all with, KER-CHING! They are absolutely out to rob as much money off people as they possibly can this generation.

I'd assume it will use the same detachable disc drive as the current slim model.
Getting rid of it entirely for the Pro model makes little sense to me.

I think i'm gonna sell my "old" PS5 and buy this Pro but i just want to see some games Sony. Excited to play some old games with Pro enhancements (at least i hope to see games like FFFXVI, Rebirth or Cyberpunk getting upgraded) but i just want a stunning Showcase and getting excited to play Wolverine, Death Stranding 2 or any other new game from PS Studios.

@PloverNutter

I'm going for the digital with the "go faster" stripes 😀

I can't tell what's funnier.

Giving the PS4 Pro an extra layer of cake and overclocking the already god awful CPU, pairing it with a beefier GPU and sticking a larger heatsink inside to cool it and call it a day while the thing achieves flight.

Or giving the already increasingly expensive PS5 some Go Faster Stripes and charging an extra $100 or more.

Day 1 for me if it has a disc drive, if not then no sale I'm afraid

Despite almost everyone online saying they won't buy this without a disc drive, it will still sell out within minutes and will be months before supply meets demand (Even at $700). Scalpers will be selling this for $1000 easy as Christmas approaches.

I don't really care about what it looks like or the fact it probably will be the size of the og PS5, I will still try and get one day 1 (will probably struggle though).

If Sony are smart they will use the same disc drive plugin so that you can take a disc drive on the slim and use it on the digital version.

Also at this point the assumption that there is only a digital version is pure speculation based on one unverified (on the full info) source. Who needs logic though that's no fun.

"Well, basically, I just copied the console we have now. Then, I added some fins to lower wind resistance. And this racing stripe here I feel is pretty sharp."

Day one with disk, day none without

It will have a disc drive. They won’t cut out that many players at all. Whether it is an additional purchase is unclear

It's going to have a disc drive 😂 there is absolutely no way they'd remove it halfway through the consoles lifespan, especially with a product aimed at "pro" gamers. Next gen is where this could be an issue.

Can't wait personally gonna be a huge improvement for high-end games.

New hardware just to gain some fps for completely unoptimised games. No thank you i respect my hard earned money. I might skip ps6 as well.

Rumours are suggesting a 500 to 600 dollar price tag, that's DOA if it is! Plus Nintendo are heavily rumoured to be unveiling the Switch successor in the next 3 weeks, so Sony will be all the luck in the universe to get any PS5 Pro sales that price against a competing platform. Higher FPS isn't going to do it alone. When they ua t got anywhere near the limits of the current hardware..

Meanwhile Nintendo has got the Switch so good it's running games like Hogwarts on handheld tech that's nearly a decade old!

Sony would be insane not to sell a disc version of it.

Surely there must be a disc attachment to it or I forsee most people not bothering to get it.

@zebric21 Gotta say at this point I'm interested in the next Switch and the Steam Deck 2, having both of the current models. And a PS5.

So now SONY PS5 x Adidas? Lol JK. Does any game will confirmed run on solid stable 60fps? If not,then im stick with my OG Fat ps5.

@S1ayeR74 - Rumors say 600 to 700 actually. There's no way this hardware costs less than 600 american bucks in today's economy.

I wouldn't expect Nintendo's console to come so cheap either (at least Switch levels of cheap). Probably 400 or 450 dollars.

@S1ayeR74 I have deck oled. I can’t wait for valve to shown us Deck 2. No matter how good rog ally/ally x. Im always love the steam deck.

@S1ayeR74 Me too or just upgrade my PC.

As the premium PS5 experience - if this comes without a disc-drive, then I'm calling it... evidence that Sony has NO ****** IDEA what it's doing now. However, I'm sure it will come in at USD600-700 with the idea you need to spend another USD100 to get the PS5 slim detachable drive. Hope I'm wrong... but I'm not buying a premium console I need to spend even more money on just to play the physical games I already own.

so has the ps5 reached its full potential yet ?

@nomither6 that's up to game developers not the console.

Why have so many people forgotten that Sony now sells its disc drives seperately? 👀 calm down everyone.

@nomither6 They didn't bother.

@Ravix because ... do you realise how much that drive costs? On top of more internal storage?

It looks similar enough to me that the disc drive they sell now probably still fits so I'd imagine it is just the same as what they do now and you can buy it with or without and can attach one whenever you want.

Honestly it would be stupid if it doesn't.

@S1ayeR74 That's good though, means the pro price will come down quicker 😀

Looks like it has the same face panels as the slim variants. It that assumption is true accessories and disc drives could be carried over from those who have the existing slim models.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare

I'm simply saying to people worrying about being able to play their games to remember that Sony sells their drives seperately already.

I'm not responding to people slating "paying extra" for a disc drive.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare you need more than 2TB?

This is a really curious situation : usually, I'm a big fan of those "mid-gen" refreshs.

I bought an Xbox One X and never regretted it (what an upgrade that was !).

I bought the PS4 Pro without even thinking about it. Just sold my old PS4 and got my new Pro. It was the natural move, for me.

But now, I don't know. This is the first time I don't feel the need to upgrade. They'll really have to sell me this one.

And the "no disc drive, but maybe you can attache an optional one" is not a good start for me.

@breakneck No, they'll be just different enough so they can wring more money out of you!

So the world's fattest and ugliest console has got even fatter? Give me a call Sony when the PS6 is out if you've sorted the vile UI and size issues - and it better have a disc drive too!

It's going to be upwards of £600.

@ED_209 Ah we shall se with the Switch. But a PS5 at 700?! I'll be shocked if it's sales hit a million of that was the case.

@darylb24 good thing i live in Ireland and it's always been easy to grab the latest sony consoles from Smyths. I feel for the rest of the gamers.

It’s more about developers chasing the wrong things and not optimising that is causing issues this generation. Just look at SW Outlaws.
60fps at 720p to 1080p max resolution on PS5 and Series x. Not sure what series s and PC are.

Also by now we used to having a few more Sony AAA studio campaign games just for the new generation PS5. Which normally leads the way and shows us what a PS5 is fully capable of.
So we are a bit behind there as well.

I think the PS5 Pro is just there to help badly optimised games released by third party developers, which seems to be the trend this generation.

I think it's likely that the Pro model won't have a disc drive in order to make the selling price more attractive but there will probably be an option to buy it separately, just like the current Digital Slim model. It would be suicidal if that isn't the case but with current Sony you never know...

Eagerly waiting to find out how much this will improve Powerwash Simulator

Rubs knees expectantly

@get2sammyb don't let critical thinking get in the way of moaning Sammy, or you'll cut out 3/4 of all internet forum comments 😊

People are ridiculous, it will give you the option for a drive.

People thinking of buying the current addon drive for the Pro, current drive is white, I can bet the Pro will be BLACK just because...it's Sony, right!?

We all know it’ll be compatible with the disc drive extension, that’s not what I’m annoyed about, it’s how this console will likely cost £550 with now an expensive disc drive add on needed.

It’s just another way from Sony to squeeze more blood from your wallets, it’s an absolute joke.

Get in my belly!!!

i do find it odd that majority want a disc drive but 80% of game sales on PlayStation are digital.

so they pay for it but dont use it

@S1ayeR74 I'd be surprised if Nintendo was announcing Switch 2 just ahead of holiday period. Knowing it won't launch in FY24, they will likely announce in Jan/Feb. But who knows ^_^

you will be able to connect the already existing disc drive add on you can get for the slim.

they are going to price it as digital console because it then makes customers the price isnt that bad compared to a disc slim

@darylb24 "unverified source" billbil-kun is the most reliable ps and epic games store leaker in history

If there is no disc drive or the option to add the detachable disc drive, I will not be buying this as I had planned to. As I only buy discs for console games due to longevity as I hang on to consoles. Plus, I won't be able to play the disc PlayStation games I presently own. I refuse to "buy" AA and above digital console games.

@Zeke68 Yup. I still buy blu-rays. Home theater is the only way I watch movies as I have a good system. If I'm lucky the movie I want comes on 4k UHD which isn't always the case. I refuse to accept "digital" based end user agreement ownership for the console space.

Yep if this doesn’t come with a disc drive I’m out.

@trev666 "everyone" is a confusing word, there are many different cohorts of buyers with different needs. People on this website are mostly engaged hardcore gamers leaning more towards physical. That accounts for a small portion of PS5 Sales. The vast majority who happen to prefer lower HW prices and digital convenience account for the vast majority ^_^

No disc drive , no care.
Why burden people with the extra cost of a drive when the majority simply don't want it? Its also the most likely cause of hardware failure and the only thing that's not silent.
Those shaking their pitchforks are the remnants of a bygone era, but they are still served by an external disc drive if they wish to continue consuming the earth's resources for a product that's designed to be delivered digitally.

Sounds like PS5 Pro and the rumoured State of Play are 2 separate announcements. I hope this means PS5 Pro is part of a bigger event rather than it just being a blogpost announcement.

In any case, no disc drive is concerning. All digital future is extremely bad.

No disc drive lol, Sony really have lost the plot !! So that means more money for the external drive.

I’m sticking to my day one ps5 if it’s the case. If I want to go digital, I go pc gaming

@Ichiban I love your rendition of zippidee doo dah 🤣

@MulletproofPunk
Quite right - it currently takes an age to "load dirt" and "optimise storage".

There's NO way this won't have the option of a disc drive.

There goes my last hope for eventually having a decent looking PS5 version

They somehow managed to make it look even worse.

@LowDefAl every other year, this topic on which of physical or digital has the lower ecological implications comes back... and each time, based on various numbers available online and lots of argument, it is clearly not as black and white as some think...

@Cry_Zero
I mean, they could just charge you more and include the disc drive. Maybe they will do that in addition to a model without, but I suspect they will release consoles for less money without a disc drive since they sell the drive separately. Giving folks the choice and an upgrade path seems more pro-consumer than you are saying.

Didn’t know that the PS5 Pro would be such a good provider of salt.

@Titntin
You certainly speak the truth, but I like having a disc drive just so I can play anything I want and I'm not limited to digital media. I've been buying only digital games for over a decade on console and almost two decades on PC, but I still like to have a disc drive.

I was more or less decided to get the PS5 Pro…however, if there’s no disc drive then that’s a deal breaker for me.

Sigh

We're never getting a good-looking PS5.

@Kalime78 no one knows when the Switch 2 will be actually on sale. But a renowned leaker who has predicted every single event they've held this month, and is the ONLY person to have done so. Including this week which Nintendo has never done before, is doing it to move up the release and launch schedule of the Switch 2 and it will be officially announced next month. It is at this stage as confirmed as this PS5 Pro launching next month is.

Oh and the Switch was announced officially in its reveal trailer in October and was on sale the following March / April.

@Jrs1 It'll drop in no time, say it transfers into £550 to £600 with no disk drive! Can't see it selling too well.

I'm not bothered by digital only since I never had a big library of physical games. I am worried about the price though. I am thinking at least 600 USD. I have no need for a new PS5 Pro and will wait for the next generation.

@LowDefAl
If you are not interested in the official figures of how people consume their games, then there's only guesswork - which obviously suits you more than facts.
I would suggest a company like Sony do their due diligence to ensure they are serving the needs of the majority, which is why they continue to make products that people want.

"Yeah because Data Centres run on air." There are lots of studies that show conclusively that manufacturing a disc and a plastic wallet, printing the associated paper, then distributing this all over the world so that you can take it home and THEN HAVE TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST VERSION OF THE GAME ANYWAY, is many times more harmful than simply downloading the product to start with. You just keep putting your fingers in your ears and not listening if you want, but I take at least a little responsibility for how I consume.
(edit: please note this is a different scenario to consuming music or video via streaming, where I think having a disc might be more ecologically sound than using a data center for life. Getting a game is one off download that disc users almost always have to do anyway)

@The_Wailing_Doom Yes mate I felt the same way. We have two PS5's here, an original disc based one and a later digital.
Having only ever put in a disc to test a 4K blueray once since launch, its clear to me that I can happily survive without the disc.
At least there is an option for people who wish to retain the disc functionality - or at least we are all supposing there is!

@S1ayeR74 Yup true, i miss the days when devs pushed the console of the time to its limits, if they reached the limits then the creativity flourished. Such a cop out now to just keep pushing hardware when the base ps5 hasnt even been fully pushed.

I prefer waiting for the PS6 without the end life refresh

@themightyant Its the same shape as the PS5 slim so I'd image it will have a version with a disk drive or a digital version you could get the disk drive that is out now for

No disc drive is an 100% no from me, i would lose access to like 90% of my current PS5 games

@Jrs1 Yeap, The Last Of Us on PS3 proved what could be done when you push a system.

The premature fears of there being no disc drive are a bit silly. We’re reading about a leaked sneak peek of potential packaging for ONE version… What would Sony gain from forcing a sizable audience of early adopters who prefer physical media to digital only in the middle of a console generation? I’m fairly confident all this negative speculation is unnecessary, and I’m happy to be called an idiot if the fears turn out to be legitimate later on. Patience.

@get2sammyb i agree that the add on disc drive will work. But i think it’s time that gamers realize physical is now second to digital, meaning gamers that want physical will have to pay extra for the drive as a add on and the games releasing will only be fewer and fewer, think Alan Wake 2. The profits and large mass sales are digital. Not to mention Video game hardware is one of the last major devices in the world using a disc drive. Car’s no longer come with cd players, computers rarely have them, everything is disc less these days. So for the niche market that wants physical it will be there as an add on expense. I will bet anything the PS6 release’s without a disc drive as well. The add on could come down to how profitable the add on is this gen. Cause the parts and manufacturing of disc drives is getting to be rare and expensive.

@anubisvel Is it wrong to be a fan/commited user and prefer digital media ??

@Vaako007 I got a stupid (yes I told him that) friend who buys new movies digital. I try to explain what happens when the server or license goes out of order. But he refuse to understand. Just pumping in money in that digital black hole...

@Jrs1 No, as long as you don't think you will have that collection "forever".

@Pranwell You and me live in different "real worlds" LOL

@Pranwell I consume many things digitally like Netflix, Spotify and so on, but I bought over 50 metal/hard rock cd's so far this year and around 100 movies on bluray/4k discs. Something special to open them up and check them out before watching them ,or in the CD case, read the lyrics inside
Edit: Aaaand, I can use them even if my network goes down... I can be without internet for ages and never have a boring time.

There's no way there won't be a disc version. Too many people have already bought tons of games on discs, if they aren't able to play them on the PS5 Pro that means those people probably won't upgrade their system.

That would kill too many sales. It would be a very poor business decision.

The only way there isn't a disc version available is if Sony comes up with some way to register a game to an account where you don't need the disc to play the game anymore. I think that's a long shot though.

Don't care personally. Still waiting for the PS5 to be fully utilised. Generational leaps ain't what they used to be.
The guys complaining about paying extra for a disc drive I can sympathise with though. But yeah, all just rumour anyway so blah blah

@Titntin my launch PS5 had a disk drive failure early this year. So I got a PS5 slim with the detachable disk drive. Made me realize that except for the fact that a lot of my early PS4 games were physical I have ended up going mostly digital. But as long as I own Gravity Rush, Gravity Rush 2 and Bloodborne physically I will keep the disc drive.

@Pranwell I get what you mean

@breakneck Ain't those games on sale dirt cheap every know and then? You could just re-buy them?
Edit: You could still keep the discbased ones for your collection.

@Pranwell, I'm all digital mate. I'm 52, not gonna really matter if I can't access it in 20yrs lol.

@Michael2008ish I'm 55 and my daughter is already looking forward to get my collection(s) lol I better watch out /jk

@Zeke68 I'm a cheap ***** lol

I imagine it’s going the route of the attachable / detachable disc drive.

I guess this likely is the design though, as it’s just too boring to be an invention. It speaks of too much practicality.

I’ve decided that, unless it boosts PSVR2 games greatly (which is doubtful as everything is made for the weak-arse Quest these days), I’ll not be getting it. Looking at the games I play, most wouldn’t benefit from more power, and we already have two PS5s

@get2sammyb I hope you are right mate and there is indeed a connection for it. As this would be a total let down for me.

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Things I'm okay with:
1. If the digital games price revamp and more frequent addition/subtraction to Plus benefits
2. Option to upgrade 🎮
3. Forward compatibility disc drive (cross-gen)
4. Identical pricing as launch slim models
5. Bring back PS Plus Collection for newcomers + more for everyone
6. More quality live service games
7. 🤭

Things to look out :
1. Better and frequent showcases without cramming hype (🙅 overwhelm & underwhelm)
2. Let us choose our own PS Plus Essential titles (e.g. 3/5 selector)
3. Try not to gate-keep DLCs especially / next-gen games from current-gen through marketing contracts under pretense of technological divide if can be helped
4. Don't be afraid to try new things/genres with expendable income, as a company
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These would be my genuine feedback.
Now let me go back and read some of the comments 🍿🍿
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@Zeke68, leave all your login details in the will 😉

@Michael2008ish She knows where to find them
Edit *were

Yeah I can almost bet the pricing structure will be $599, only digital edition but the disc drive that’s already being sold separately for the PS5 Slim will be compatible with it, so if you want the Pro with the Disc Drive you have to pay around $700 with taxes 💀

@Zeke68 Yea silly choice on your friends part. Besides when one buys a new blu-ray or 4k UHD there is often a digital code included in the box! And its not like the stand alone digital version is significantly cheaper for any movie. So why not buy physical and have all formats. Plus the physical copy can never be censored. Same for physical books. And most importantly all one needs is the physical medium for the physical content then it will always be available. No going through logins down the line if the account still exists.

@Vaako007 Here in Sweden I never seen a 4K movie with code?!! I would go Texas Chainsaw Massacre on them if they sent me a nice box with a CODE!!! lol Hope they never try that crap on me.

@madmaxrules If it's taking on the same model of the slim, then we should be able to use the detachable drive for ps5 slim on the pro.

@Whately86 Yes, but rumour has it Pro is black, so you'll end up with a "Zebrastation" lol

@Zeke68 Realistically though, ive had years of collecting big carboard boxes with amiga and pc games (often with 2 floppy disks in them and thats it) and also how long do people really need to keep physical games anyway? In years to come those games will be pennies digitally.

@Jrs1 I don't keep them for the value. I can watch movies that you can't find on torrent or streamservices... The blockbusters will always be around, but not the little independent stuff.

It just looks like the slim they released.
Its always 1st Model then Slim then Pro then Ps6 or last gen was Ps5.
How much more powerful can it be and do we need the extra power as the ps5 is a powerhouse as it is.
Then one year after people get the pro model they launch the next generation.

not really surprised or too upset about the lack of a disc drive. I think so long as there's an option to add one for $50, it's no biggie.

@themightyant same for me.

@madmaxrules It definitely uses the same drive as the slim, that was leaked more than a year ago

Looks ugly with the stripes. The stock PS5 is an odd looking thing to begin with, but at least you can get plates from someone like dbrand to round it out. The stripes remind me of an accordion.

@Michael2008ish @Zeke68 A couple of my PS3 games already got disc rot. I hope that was just a freak incident. Because you might just outlast the PS5 discs. Regardless It's still much smarter to buy discs and I refuse to buy any digital purchase for more than 5 dollars.

Imagine Sony releasing this one at 749$ without a disk drive, and selling the drive separately for 50-100$...

And those stripes are a wrong design choice...
Yo, Sony, is that the best you can do ? There's a lot of talented people out there, put that HR department to work!

@Jrs1 Not in the least, and that wasn’t my intended implication. I’m all digital myself. I just don’t foresee Sony overlooking the population of early adopters who fall in the physical preferred category for an upgraded/pro model.

To that end, the several comments so far that almost presume or threaten the consequences of their dollar or support if no physical edition is released seem premature, particularly in light of this being a supposed leak and not an official announcement.

Premature and invalid are not the same, but the comments fall solely under the umbrella of speculation at this point.

This is why companies like to control their own narratives. Many people are too quick to get worked up over an absence of confirmation, often running with rumors and spreading misinformation or misdirection without any factual basis.

@anubisvel Yup i see where your coming from now.

@elfoam No discrot here. First cd's from 1985 up to recent, Dvd's from 1998ish and forward. Everything works just fine. I have a bunch of PS3 games too and everytime I boot them up they seem to work just fine. But discrot is a thing for sure. I know a former work mate that bought Baldurs Gate 1 & 2 on PC at release and those disc's just doesn't work anymore. He can play like 15% of the game(s) before he get's a 'read error'. Not fun.
You can actually see the miscoloring on the discs with the bare eye.

Can there please be an all black model so there isn't the hidden cost of buying black panels. I will wager that if equal numbers of black models and white models were released that the blacks would sellout faster. The same wager for rectangular box over the current design.

My only issue with an add on optional disk drive is availability. I don't want a gap in time between the purchases of the console and disk drive.

If it is just the same 4k graphical quality but with 60fps I don't think I will bother. If we get better graphics WITH 60fps I might get one.

@OthmaneAD Unverified that it is digital only, not that the console itself isn't real. Most people know the PS5 pro is a real thing.

Plus the general populace doesn't know this person and it would be naïve to presume that they do even if they are the worlds most trusted video game leaker.

@BloodyBlact We have Smyths here too but I think the UK market doesn't seem to get enough supply to meet the demand at launch. I'm not sure if they do EIRE stock alongside the UK of if they do it separate now as an EU thing but maybe I need to take a visit to Ireland. My Maternal grandfather is from Dublin but I have never been myself.

The design looks like it'll use the slims face plates even if the console is bigger

I dont know if everyone so angry over a bunch of rumours is sad or hilarious

Give me strength

@BloodyBlact I sold all my PS4 discs and used the cash to get digital versions when on sale. I’m all digital now this gen. All in. Love it.

@Luna-Harmony yeah it’s crazy. Just need games at this point.

The go faster stripes really ought to do it.

@IOI I'd be amazed if that were the pricing. I don't see Sony only charging $100 more for their supposedly super duper preeeeeemiuumm upgrade. Not the sony that keeps raising prices and cutting rewards. They know they're selling to a niche and they'll milk that niche. I can see a PSVR2 scenario. $700 (plus disc drive extra) base price, then slash the price in a year or two when the sales stay in the gutter though.

This thing will live and die on price like PSVR2, but I don't see Sony trying to offer value here. New Sony is all about selling brand preeeeemiuuumm, Apple-style.

Never thought that having a 4K Ultra-HD Blu-ray and DVD drive is considered a feature for peasants only, as PS5 Pro seems to not have it at all.
Besides that, PS5’s potential hasn’t been truly shown yet, so having a Pro model would be a waste for me.
However, I am sure that Sony would not be doomed, because, just like with PS Portal, there will be millions of casual morons who will purchase any expensive half-baked device, which will always justify them to release useless midgen consoles instead of making true leaps from one generation to another.
Thus, I’m anxiously waiting for PS6, PS6 Pro Max, PS6 Mini and PS6 Air

@Zeke68 Black and white is a key part of the PS5's brand and design, they probably won't sell it solely as an all-black version. Especially when they can sell you the extra covers as an additional purchase instead.

@MrHabushi Funny that the white on black branding was established with PSVR first lol....

@Ralizah I can live with the looks since the plastic at least feels like a consumer product and not something dragged out of a recycling bin and sprayed with matte black grill paint like PS4/Pro.

@OldGamer999 "I think the PS5 Pro is just there to help badly optimised games released by third party developers, which seems to be the trend this generation."

Of course that's the only thing it's for. As it has been in the PC space for ages, and most modern games are PC games from PC devs. $1000+ video cards don't sell because they do something special, they sell because that's what it takes to brute force poorly running software so it runs like it's supposed to without optimization. This is new to console because console's finally gone full PC. This is how PC's been since the 90's. Why do you think iPhone Pro Max's sell? Ok, that's for the status, to go with the Tesla....

@NEStalgia, lol. Never bought an Apple product. Premium my ass lol. Early adopters be early adopters though, whilst being fleeced 😞

@NEStalgia Eh. The PS5 has always looked like a cheap, needlessly gigantic router that also inexplicably has a popped collar. It's possibly the ugliest console I've seen since some of the really early, pre-NES consoles.

I don't mind the PS4. It's a bit annoying how you need to remember which pressure-sensitive spot is eject vs power down, but I always liked how it looks like a stealth jet or something.

@NEStalgia
Well I’m hoping things will get better when Sony Studios get back releasing PS5 games and of course Nintendo with the Switch 2.
We can normally rely on these two to show us what their consoles are truly capable of and games fully optimised.

@OldGamer999, with all the shovelware on Switch, I don't hold much hope for Switch 2.
Kinda sad because imo Nintendo 1st party games have been some of the best fun games.

@Ralizah IDK, the popped collar really sells the right image to the target audience IMO. Smart design.

I don't think it looks great, but the PS4 looked like a wallmount telephony box in a 90's comms closet. A recycled one. It's still an improvement. Stealth jets are sleek. The PS4 was made of sandpaper sprayed with latex paint.

@Cry_Zero
i also hear colour TVs are on the horizon but I'm not sure it will catch on.

It's going to be $600 for the PS5 Pro without a disc drive. So real cost of a Pro with the disc will be an additional $80 on top of it. Sony is greedy asf as usual. F'n *****.

@Pranwell Read what I'm saying. Sony is going to inflate the cost of the Pro by offering a digital only version. It was rumored to be $600 but I guarantee that it's going to be for only the digital version. But if you're fine with Sony ripping you off for even more money paying $150+ for a PS5 Pro version, then have fun by all means.

Great. Another ugly white console that goes with absolutely nothing else in my cabinet.

More evidence for my "Sony has no idea what it's doing" position. How is this still a leaked mock up and not actual photos, feature set, and preorder links? People are going to gobble this up regardless, but c'mon. There's no strategy or thoughtful planning here - something to keep in mind when "X product/franchise/service is dead" stories come up.

@riceNpea I would not be surprised if that was also announced in late September.

@Michael2008ish
We will still get Nintendo first party games to enjoy during the Switch 2 release and life cycle.

There was a time I would have been super excited about a PS5 Pro but Im finding it hard to care. My PS5 works fine, plus to be honest, I’m playing my ROG Ally and Switch 95% of the time anyways.

@Zeke68 not sure how it can be confirmed before the console is even officially announced. I think you dreamt it up 🤣

Couple things here. There needs to be a disc drive for one, though to keep the cost down it’s likely it’ll be sold seperately only. This is…not a solution.

Second, good lord I still find it ugly to this day. The most pretentious, eye stinging thing I’ve seen and I want it to go away.

@Corc11 Yeah, Of course I meant the word is that"Playstation consoles from now on will have the addon discdrive". I think it was Mark Cerny who said it during some techinterview. That way Sony can hold down the productioncosts but still sell the drive to those who wants it, somethng like that.

I was only interested in the pro because I hate the shape, design and size of the original 5. Was also not keen on the white so purchased some black plates. Certainly won’t be upgrading for the same shape console considering we don’t really get next gen games anymore.

@madmaxrules You'll be able to use the disc drive attachment.

@yoda87960 I'm sure a worldwide billion dollar company that is still going strong probably knows more about planning and releasing a product than you do. Just because they havent done what you want, doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing.

@Zeke68 sorry I didn't explain it well! I meant that a digital code comes in the box as an insert along with the physical disks. This is common for the market I buy from.

Guess you gotta wait for the PS5 Expert Pro Platinum if you want a disc drive.

@Vaako007 Ah, I never seen that in my movies. I own 30-40 4K movies, mostly collectoreditions and steelbooks. Guess swedes ain't a market for digital yet (thank god).

I think it's fairly obvious that it will use the same cover plates and disc drive attachment as the slim. It's just slightly longer with the extra stripes in the middle.

Cool. I will definitely be getting the ps5 pro.word up son

Day 1 for me. Can't wait for the PS5 PRO!

I'm a bit out of the loop on this one. Has there been a confirmation of the spec yet? Like is there a fairly strong case for people with the OG PS5 to buy this, or is it a sweeter deal for people that don't have a PS5 yet?

@S1ayeR74 Fair enough ^_^ bad memory on my part, I thought Switch was announced in Jan and released a couple months later

@themightyant I am pretty sure it will support the disc drive attachment.. This is a good thing, everyone will buy the same system regardless if they want the disc drive or not. And those who already spent money on a disc drive won't have to feel like they wasted money as they will be able to move it over to the Pro model.

The only "issue" is arguably that it's not included in the box..
But to me that's a plus because I don't wan't a disc drive and not including it obviously drives down the price.

So I see very little reason for complaints about this

@themightyant Would you have preferred to have the cost of the disc drive included in the PS5 Pro and a disc drive that is permanently attached to the system?

Hmph.. The PS5 Pro will probably be terrible for most game collectors and people archiving games anyway since Sony probably won't re-release the entire PS5 library on physical media just to include the "Pro enhancement" patches on disc.
Well this means you are going to have to rely on the internet regardless to get the full PS5 pro experience.
And that defeats mosts of the arguments for physical media I suppose.

Anyway I am well aware that there's people who will be fine with this compromise and the idea of only having to download the patches but having the rest of the game installed and played from disc.

Still.. I see the most benefit of this Pro systems for people who already chose the digital version not because it's less expensive but because they're tired of physical media, scratched discs and noisy disc readers.

I love physical ,but I cant really believe sony would be so stupid to not have a disc drive with it especially for people with alot of discs like myself ,they'll just really annoy alot of games who like myself love physical ,I'll wait for official news from Sony themselves as its pure speculation at the mo,but certainly if it ends up being digital only then i certainly won't be getting one ,plus it would be a really bad business move from Sony and from a pr point of view,we will see what happens

Even if there is a drive, no buy if it still doesn't support Dolby Vision for 4K Blu-rays.

@BiosNova Believe me, I'm not wanting much from Sony and I'm not their primary target consumer. From a marketing standpoint, I find it bizarre. They've got four months to get this out and we don't really know what it looks like, what it costs, or what exactly it does. Sure, it will sell out because Sony has mostly won this generation. Are early adopters going to be stuck with a marked up PS5 that mostly plays PS5 games and not much else? It's a fair question.

It’s about the games, not the hardware. Like where the hell is ICO? Who made the decision to make PSVR1 games not playable with PSVR2? Why is it that despite significant hardware boost, PS5 and Xbox are mostly reaching for 30 fps, just like the Switch, albeit Switch has lower rez sometimes. They make no guarantee pS5 pro will hit 60 fps. Sony barely puts out anything already. Only game I’m picking up this year for PS5 is Astro Bot. Give us a new Twisted Metal. Not every games needs to be AAA. Give funding for Crash Bandicoot 5. Give usa new Marble Madness with levels leading into one another and creating a marble madness world! Mark Cerny, that last point is directed at you!

@themightyant That was not my point.

So what would you prefer

800USD (Playstation 5 Pro 700USD + 100USD Discdrive sepparately)
OR
800USD (Playstation 5 Pro with integrated discdrive)
OR
800USD (Playstation 5 Pro with detachable discdrive bundle)

if the price is all together the same for a disc capable PS5 Pro then why are people crying about it?
Why do people assume that Sony takes a meaning premium for the detachable discdrive vs what they would if the drive was integrated? for all we know the difference could have been like 5USD. But I would say that I would much rather prefer paying that to have a discdrive that I can easily replace the day when it decides to fail.