Your Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 Progress Will Transition to PS5 Remaster

A release noone needed.

Well, that sucks! There's nothing like going through a game and popping those Trophies. As someone that has been through the game 3 times now, it seems that there is little reason to return to it once again. At least the Trophies would have given me that reason...

Yes, read it on PSBlog! Will definitely finally do a NG+ run as it really looks impressive!

@Chupa_loyzer True, but for a 10$ upgrade on a game most of us received for free during the pandemic, I’ll take it. It was already looking really good on PS5 but this looks properly amazing.

I freely admit I figured this would be a lazy “now it runs natively with no real improvement!” thing.

I…stand corrected.

I'll upgrade just to do the New Game Plus playthrough on native PS5... But soon Sony /Playstation MUST have done everything released after Bloodborne so it can finally be BB's turn to get a remaster/remake?? PrettypleasewithsugarontopSony!

@Fiendish-Beaver You know you can just…not import your save, right?

Most likely won't go back to this as already completed it. Not played the dlc, so maybe. But yet to play Burning Shores and would rather give that a go instead.

Why would you buy the upgrade and then not want to start from the beginning?

I think I will just do it all again tbf.

Brilliant game so worth doing it again.

I’m old, its a great game and it’s been six years since I last played it so I’ve forgotten almost all of the game outside of the start and the final boss so I’ll definitely be buying the upgrade.

@Chupa_loyzer technically, we don’t need any video games. Some people will play it. For those who don’t want to. They don’t have to! 🤷🏾‍♂️

I will wait for the PS6 Pro enhanced re-remaster

@Fiendish-Beaver I thought we’d get a clean go at it. New trophy unlocks. It’s why I was about to play it again. But now I’m not. The Witcher 3 allowed me to platinum the game 3 times on 1 PSN account. Hell, I’m thinking about doing it again on my alt account lol.

@AhmadSumadi As previously said, you can just…not import your save. Unless you just can’t resist hitting that shiny import save button…

Give me that autopop platinum lol

10 dollar 20 second platinum 😱

Looked really impressive though. That reminds me, I still have the Platinum pending at 80% or so.

As long as there’s a separate trophy list I’m in!

Think I may have missed it.

I have the complete edition with the dlc. Is that part of the upgrade path? Is the dlc included in the ps5 version?

The only reason I wouldn’t if there are serious performance issues. I currently get 60fps on my PS5. Give me a 60fps performance mode and a 40fps balanced on the regular PS5 and we’re cool.

Without the upgrade path I wouldn't have, but for $10, sure, why not. Now, whether or not I'll actually play it again... probably not, or at least not for a while.

That’s sucks as it probably means the same trophy list / trophy auto pops even if you delete your save first. A big part of my motivation gone for playing the game through again.

@get2sammyb
But it usually indicates the same list being used.

I still think this is an unnecessary remaster, but I've got not complaints about how they're handling it. A substantial update with a reasonably priced upgrade path and save file compatability, it checks all the boxes.

If this is how they're handling remasters going forward and provided it doesn't take significant time away from new game development, I don't mind it.

I don't think this needed to be made. I do think $10 is fair for this kinda upgrade.
I might get it but not sure yet, don't really have the time to replay big games I already played.

You can't argue with a tenner to get the extra bells and whistles. If I feel the urge to go back to H:ZD then I'll probably play the PS5 one, but not desperate to go back right now. Maybe before a third instalment (though I fell off H:FW and need to get back to that first).

@thefourfoldroot1 Do games share trophy lists between the PS4 and PS5 version now? Because they used to be separate in every case I can think of.

All the trophy addicts will pay $10 just to autopop and move on.

This is one of those games, that I play once, and never again. The graphics and combat is great, but all the rest, was just beyond boring.
Aloy and the rest of the cast, are so boring and forgettable.

These remasters are so damn pointless.
But I'll bet we see one for the sequel as well, in a near future. Probably in time for the launch of the PS6...

When they offer the ps5 upgrade for a tenner, hard to be mad. Is it needed not really, will I buy it? Your god damn right I will.

This is awesome and great, fair price. I finished both games but never did Frozen Wilds, so I may start there. I could even see myself playing the game over again, it’s that good.

Sony had the choice to either get $10 or $0 out of me and they chose wisely.

Ended up being a good move by Sony, instead of releasing a full price remake making it a $10 upgrade.. Everybody went from pure hate mode to "I'll buy that, at least to see how it looks for myself".

@Voltan
Isn’t there a native PS5 edition? I played on PS5 but might have been in back compat. If not then there should indeed be a separate list. Happy days!

@Fiendish-Beaver also PS6 might only be bc with PS5 games and not PS4

Same as many others, for £10, why the hell not?
I'm just slightly annoyed with myself I replayed it last year... Should have waited!

@Fiendish-Beaver nothing stopping you from starting a new game on it...

Wasnt going to bother getting this but for the price of a takeout i think i will do now considering i got the game for free in days of play offer way back. Not really paid alot of attention to it but looking on youtube it looms alot better.... and thats on my mobile phone.

@Fiendish-Beaver I 100% agree. At least if they would of made a completely new trophy list with more challenging trophies then I would 100% play it, but not with the same old same old easy ass boring trophies

@PSme That seems unlikely.

The PS5 was already designed in a way to get effectively flawless BC and PS4 BC should come to the PS6 as easily as it does the PS5.

The industry is at a point now where there are no excuses. Yes PS3 BC doesn't exist on the ps4 or ps5 but thats more to do with the nature of the ps3 than the other machines.

Now BC is baked into the hardware design, and it seems unlikely that Sony would make such a change as to lose all that compatibility they've built up now. A few games may not work properly, this was even the case with ps1 games on ps2 (and some ps2 games on slims as well) because some games will always do something a little "off spec"

I bet 20 bucks that 9 out 10 of you who buy this upgrade will never actually play it!

@thefourfoldroot1 Pretty sure it was just the PS4 version and remaster is PS5 only

Didn't really love this one but maybe because I played it during pandemic and everything was gloomy. Will give it another go and happy to pay £10. I just know I'm going to absolutely hate that final mission where they just keep throwing wave after wave of machines at you

I wish I could transfer my PS4 progress to the PC. I haven't finished the game. Forget everything about it, so probably I should start over.

@PSme as others have said, this would be highly unlikely. PS4 is the highest selling modern home console and to just alienate that base of games would not only be stupid but idiotic. Also, AMD still making their chips, also big focus on BC on PS%, it's not just going to stop there. I would take those rumors saying otherwise with a pinch of salt.

I get that, @BigJoze, but there's nothing like the sense of achievement when you pop that Trophy. You cannot get that with a new game when your progress carries over...

Precisely that, @AhmadSumadi. Popping those Trophies is fun, and we won't get to do that here. It would be nice to have the option as to whether we carried over our progress, because I know I wouldn't...

I own and will double dip if the PS5 version includes everything on the on disc with a physical edition.

You can, @dskatter? I've not seen this as an option before, I've always thought it to be automatic. Even if you don't use the same save from the original game, the Trophies will still be popped because they are from the same, original list. Happy to be corrected if that is not the case...

@Fiendish-Beaver
For offline games we always get the choice about carrying over save progress (just delete your save from the console). The question is whether it shares a trophy list, but someone pointed out to me that this never had a PS4 version (amazingly) which, if true, means this should be a different SKU with a new list. Fingers crossed anyway.

Are you sure about the Trophies though, @get2sammyb? There is a difference between your saved game, and the Trophies, is there not? If the Trophies list is the same and you've popped them on your PS4, then they'll be popped on the new version because the Trophies are linked to your profile. Happy to be corrected if that's wrong...

The way this article reads, @thefourfoldroot1, the Trophy list is one and the same. So if you've already popped that Trophy on the PS5, it'll be popped in this version because the Trophy is on your profile. I'd love that to be wrong because it gives a reason to play through the game once more...

@Fiendish-Beaver I would imagine it gives you the option to carry the progress over. If not, I'd also imagine the trophies wouldn't start popping unless you load up your previous save

That'll be cool, @BigJoze, but the way I read this article, the games share the same Trophies, so if you've popped them on your PS4, you've popped them full-stop. Would love for you to be right though...

Is there a new trophy list? And will transferring a save pop the trophies? And is the frozen Wilds DLC included?

If it’s a new list and the trophies don’t auto-pop, I’d spend the $10 to upgrade and re-platinum it, especially since I never got around to the DLC. If not though I won’t bother.

@Fiendish-Beaver I have never had a first party PS4 to PS5 import saves automatically. You always have to deliberately have it happen, like Spider-Man, etc.

No, sorry, @dskatter, I meant where there is a shared Trophy list, not the game saves, which I agree, you have to manually agree too...

@Fiendish-Beaver
I only read that you can transfer your game saves over, if it’s a new SKU it could well have another trophy list, and historically that’s what’s happened most of the time. It could be treated as a DLC rather than a new SKU of course, a la Resi 8 VR, but probably not (hopefully).

@Fiendish-Beaver Then don't transfer your progress over... the trophies in this game are trivial anyways, you effectively get the platinum just for playing the content you paid for.

@Hesse
My position exactly.

@thefourfoldroot1 It's a native PS5 app, of course it's a new SKU. They're hardly remastering the game for PS4 (and no, there's no PS5 SKU already. There's a patch for the PS4 version to hit 60FPS only on PS5, but that's all).

From what I remember, @thefourfoldroot1, Horizon Forbidden Dawn was a PS4 game. It came out in 2017, so about 4 years after the console first released. I don't think it was on the PS3...

I might bite on the upgrade. Played it on PC. Have yet to play it on console. Besides I got it free in their giveaway a few years ago.

@Fiendish-Beaver
I hope the same as you do, new trophy list.

@MrPeanutbutterz
Yep, that’s the info I was missing at the beginning. I thought for sure this would have been one of their games to get a PS5 version, but clearly not. Should have noticed really, it’s right there in the title. New SKU, (almost) certainly new trophy list 👍

@Fiendish-Beaver If this is like every other PS4 to PS5 upgrade I’ve seen, there will be separate trophy lists.

One reason being the whole dlc thing. The dlc trophies were added later for the original game. I’m willing to bet they’ll be in one unified listing for the PS5 version, so separate from the PS4 version.

I'm on the fence, really - mostly because I really don't want to support this practice to the point where we continue to see Sony churning out Remasters of PS4 games that can still be played on current hardware. At least dig a little deeper for games that truly are "lost to time".

It is a nice upgrade, though, I'll give them that - and goes to show just how much of an upgrade Forbidden West was compared to the original game.

That being said, I got the game originally as a Christmas gift. I claimed the digital version when Sony was handing it out for free (because, why not?) and I got the PC version within the past week or so for like...$11 or something. So, shelling out another $10 (when I personally have invested so little out of my own pocket) to have the best possible version of the game is somewhat tempting.

@Fiendish-Beaver I've definitely played games that had the exact same trophy list across generations and the trophies only popped on PS5 when I explicitly loaded up my old save, or transferred it over etc.

Would be good if they made it work that way.

Cool, free platinum for me 👍🏾👍🏾 nice going

@Mikey856
PC has stronger IP library.

@thefourfoldroot1 Yeah it looks to be the same as all the other games that got a PS5 remaster - TLoU Part 2, Death Stranding, GoT, Spider-Man, Uncharted 4 and the one with Chloe (can't think of what it's called right now!).

Was gonna replay Both Horizons soon anyway so might as well wait and nab this I mean given what was shown for a tenner it is quite a steal. Again this didn't need to exist but it does I love this series and it's a ridiculous bargain given the upgrade it's gotten if it was full price I wouldn'tve got it but again for a tenner ok you got me 😅. Plus if I get to enjoy a version of Horizon without those abominable PS4 load times then I'm all for it 😅

All remasters should take this route, it is as simple as that

@MrPeanutbutterz uncharted the lost legacy

@Mikey856
Planescape: Torment, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, C&C, Total War, Warcraft, Starcraft, Wizardry, Might & Magic, Heroes of Might & Magic, Homeworld. Do I need to continue?

After all the improvements of forbidden West, I wonder how it'll feel to go back to the original?

@ATaco
With all the boring characters and bland generic open world question mark gathering the original was still a tighter and better experience than the sequel.

Considering Sony gave me the game for free, it would be almost rude not to get it. Will happily go for the platinum again, as well as remind myself of the story before I play the sequel.

If I play again I won't be reusing a save from 4 years ago.

If it was more than $10 I'd have said forget it. But $10 is fair enough for what this is.

I would still rather have ports for games that need it more though like... you know... the PS3 catalog. I'd honestly pay $70 for a Killzone 2&3 collection.

Its a $10 upgrade yeah i shell upgrade.

@Chupa_loyzer Haven't really helped your argument there with those games.

@Mikey856 Nintendo has the strongest IP line up. There's a big reason Smash was just largely Nintendo based with some guests until Ultimate happened.

That would be cool, @dskatter.

@Mikey856
Well who is to blame if people have awful taste...

@GamingFan4Lyf

But the beet possible version will be on PC.

So, all your progress carries over.
So you autopop all the trophies, and have nothing to do. So you don't see all the improved graphics after all..

@Fiendish-Beaver just don't import your save..

@Chupa_loyzer Which is where I would get the upgrade if I decide to get it.

@TheMightyImp2
Do you play your games merely for trophies?

@GamingFan4Lyf
Will the PC upgrade also cost a tenner?

@Chupa_loyzer The reports have seemed to indicate that getting the Remastered version will cost $10 for PC as well. But should the Remastered version suddenly pop up in my Steam library, I wouldn't complain! 😂

It'll be interesting to see how that is received on that side of things. PC gamers are certainly willing to fight Sony a lot more than the console owners - especially when the game is only 4 years old on that platform (as opposed to 7 years old on PlayStation).

@Chupa_loyzer
Nope. But my point is that many will get all their trophies auto pop (like death stranding did) and it will take all the fun out of it.

Trophies are a milestone for me..it is a nice little reminder of when I played a game. I've already said that you can prevent the auto pop if you know what you are doing, but more importantly all of your progress gets carried over. So if there was a particularly awesome boss battle with much improved graphics,.you won't see it, because it's already done.

Hope that clears up any confusion.

@Paulbuck28 That's the one, thanks! Must replay it soon, actually my favourite in the series after 2.

@TheMightyImp2 Your comment is a perfect reminder of why I quit trophy hunting in 2009. Talk about sucking the fun out of a game.

@MrPeanutbutterz uncharted 2 is my favourite game followed by uncharted 4

Well it is just a visual upgrade/animation upgrade so no save transfer would be weird. Though if people have platinumed the game/100%ed it then I mean sure. If they want another new game+ run of it or whatever fresh playthrough progress. It's good it's here but it barely alters the save file so it makes sense and would be strange why it wouldn't work.

@Chupa_loyzer luckily you don't speak for everyone.