Japan Sales Charts: PS5 Pro Gets Stronger Start Than PS4 Pro Despite Being Twice the Price

Long term numbers will be the real indicator but a good start nonetheless!

And people who think this means Sony will charge £600+ for the PS6 please give your head a little shake, the Pro is priced how it is as it’s a premium enthusiast item, the PS6 will be for the masses so will be priced accordingly.

@DonJorginho screenshotting this comment to haunt you in 2027 or 8)

Glad to see Slitterhead make it into the top 10.

It's pretty good - a little janky, but a great first outing for a brand new studio! I hope it is profitable so the studio can grow!

Congrats to Sony for a strong outing on the Pro in Japan.

@DonJorginho spot on. People expecting a £800 PS6 are in fantasy land. It'll be 499 with no drive

@DonJorginho If Sony finds out that many people are willing to pay £600+ for the PS6, then this is priced accordingly.

And lower sales numbers are not hurting Sony too much, as we see today, because obviously a surprisingly large percentage of their PSN sales seems to be for PS4 games on PS4 consoles.

What Sony really meant with „We belive in generations“: „We believe that two generations will us make money for a longer period of time in parallel.“

@DonJorginho coping already? PS5 pricing vs PS4 PRO was just a fluke? Fingers crossed xD

@DonJorginho Screenshotting for posterity. Good luck.

Just here for the naysayers comments 😀

@DonJorginho I'm not optimistic about pricing in the slightest. I feel Switch 2 is going to be $500 and then if Nintendo who are known for releasing cost affordable hardware are releasing hardware that expensive then Sony for sure are going to make PS6 pricing be more expensive than PS5 Pro.

Im guessing around $599 for a PS6, without disc. Maybe even $649.

The Japanese love their monster hunter and wilds is looking like a game that pretty much demands a ps5 pro. Wouldn’t be surprised if a significant portion of those buying in Japan based their purchasing decision on the recent wilds beta test.

£600 without disc drive is my guess, at least initially.

And Sony probably wont mind a slow start, as I think that we wont see a tilte that doesnt run on PS5 for at least 4 years into PS6's generation.

@Loamy It would be about as powerful as a PS2...but at least everyone would get one! 👍

@nessisonett I have faith in my predictions, if they’re proven wrong I blame Jim Ryan and nobody else 💙

@Loamy Yep I’m also thinking £525-549.99 for the PS6. But then again I thought the Pro would be £550 so maybe my calculations are just heavily flawed 🤣

@DonJorginho You're telling me that different market segments mean different strategies and therefore different prices?!

@Grumblevolcano If Nintendo price the Switch 2 at that kinda price then yeah my prediction goes out the window, as Nintendo are the new price setters now, Sony will follow suit if they’re pricing high, but we will see, hopefully Switch 2 is around the £450 mark.

@ButterySmooth30FPS unheard of I know 😉

@REALAIS One may say coping, I on the other hand call it an optimistic prediction 🍻

The PS6 price will also depend on the price of the next Xbox, Sony will not want to price people out of buying one and them going to Xbox.

@Grumblevolcano Thats a good point, havent thought of that. Very curious to see how Nintendo will price the Switch 2.

@DonJorginho yeah it's not like the PS5 launched at a higher price than the PS4 Pro did 🙄

The unfortunate reality is that the PS5and Xbox consoles have a higher RRP today than 4 years ago at launch. This has never happened before and I'll be stunned if the PS6 is actually cheaper than the PS5 Pro

@carlos82 The PS4 generation was an insanely cheap generation, we all remember how much Sony lost back then on consoles sold per unit, and let’s not forget this was pre COVID, which whatever you think about it, has affected electronics and specially games consoles, Sony have spent the whole time saying that the PS5 Pro is priced like it is because it’s a niche product, even current Sony aren’t stupid enough to shoot themselves in the foot that badly, it may be £599.99 but it’ll still be cheaper than the PS5 Pro, it’s just the way it’s always works, by the time the PS6 drops we’ll have the PS5/XSX price dropping to lower than ever seen levels too let’s not pretend they’ll stay at their current price for the next 4 years.

34 million Switch sales VS 14 million PS4/PS5 sales combined is insane.

Weekly sales numbers in Japan always look tiny compared to sales figures in NA.

If anyone in the uk is interested Argos have already reduced the price

@DonJorginho I disagree. Sony has been testing the limits of what the market will bear in terms of price increases throughout the generation, in a way that is totally antithetical to their behavior in the past. Price increases on games. A rise in the MSRP of their first-party games. Increasingly limited price drops on that software. Price increases on controllers. etc. The PS5 Pro selling well will indicate that there's space, at least early on, to charge the enthusiasts who buy in early a small fortune for the even more premium hardware in the PS6.

@Ralizah A lot of these things are the exact same for all of the big three though. Nintendo also have raised their prices compared to in the past including on their first party games and are even stricter with their price drops on software compared to Sony, lets also not forget how Joy Cons are still overpriced and rarely on a good discount especially considering how they’re the worst made controllers out of all three companies in terms of reliability.

Sony themselves have used the PS5 Pro being a niche product to shield themselves from it’s price being a looming shadow for future consoles so I’m sure they’re not THAT stupid to step onto a rake so soon after this entire debacle, the PS5 Pro itself is already seeing price cuts of £50 across retailers in the UK, so that goes against everything you’ve just said with price gouging.

Enthusiasts are not the ones who get a PS6, they’re part of it of course but there’s many casual customers, parents and people wanting a PS6 who would’ve skipped the pro just for the new generation, the PS5 wasn’t obscenely priced after the PS4 Pro, so I don’t see how this will be the same, if it is I’ll eat my hat but luckily I can’t see that happening.

The only sticker is if a disc drive is included in the below £600 model, that is a very real problem compared to the phantom worries of some inflated priced PS6.

@__jamiie That’s not surprising at all, Japan is Portable dominated. Even the PSP sold 20m there, which is more than any Nintendo Dedicated Home Console has ever managed.

And those sales will sink like a stone 😆

@DonJorginho Nintendo doesn't traditionally drop prices on their consoles or games, either (with the exception of discounted re-releases of some first-party games in previous generations). Sony, on the other hand, has a long history of loss-leading to maintain their position in the industry. It's very much a conscious and extreme shift in strategy for them. As such, I think it's naive to believe they won't try to make the PS6 more profitable if they believe it won't hurt sales momentum on year one too much. Of course, this will all be determined by significant internal calculations based on market data.

Enthusiasts are generally the demographic that likes to buy in early with new console generations. If Sony thinks it can milk them for more with a PS6 (it probably can, tbh), it makes a lot of sense to price it with the anticipation of dropping the price gradually to expand mass market appeal for the hardware.

Also fully expecting the disc drive to be an accessory by default next gen.

I think $600, or somewhere thereabouts, is not an unrealistic expectation. Maybe more, depending on how well the PS5 Pro sells.

@ChrisDeku Regardless of what you class the Switch as, the numbers are still astonishing. By your assessment, Sony have sold as many PSP/PS4/PS5 consoles as the Switch has sold.

@__jamiie That’s hardly astonishing. The PSP was not classed as a particularly successful device and it still managed 20m there. The 3DS, which sold even less than the PSP worldwide, managed 25m in Japan. Switch worldwide sales are just about to hit double the 3DS so it’s perfectly normal that it sold at least 10m more in Japan. Switch sales are pretty much in keeping with expectations.

Someone selling 20m units of a non-portable device would be astonishing(it’s basically impossible now)

@DonJorginho it's all about cost effectiveness and time, if we are to see a substantial increase in power for cost, then at sub £600 we're looking at at least a 2030 release if not later. Unless Sony decide to take a massive hit on the consoles themselves... To the extent that's necessary it's simply a case of cost effectiveness

I'm 80% sure that Japan will get a price cut in the month or two prior to MHW's release. That's Japan's GTA.

With the doom and gloom from Nintendo fanboys who claim no one in Japan wants PS5 or PS brand is dead, I'm surprised with 75K of PS5Pro sold in the 1st week.

And Slitterhead numbers is a proof that even Japan doesn't give a damn about AA games from indie devs which is sad honestly. But that's the harsh reality of today gaming industry 😔

@ChrisDeku Are you actually saying that the Nintendo Switch sales aren't astonishing?

@Deljo Great heads up, and for those interested, John Lewis also has it for the same price as Argos in the UK. And due to bringing back their price match promise will adhere to any price drops major competitors like Argos make moving forward.

But yeah, just in case anyone is on the fence or yet to get one, and may have certain cards with store benefits etc, that’s now two UK stores knocking off PS5 Pro price to £659.99.

@__jamiie There’s nothing astonishing about a successful portable device selling 30m+ in Japan. Since that’s on the upper end of expectations, especially considering the device is very cheap in Japan since launch day ~$190 for the base model, $128 for the lite.

Several million of those Japanese sales are likely exported to mainland Asia due to how cheap it is to buy in Japan relative to other territories.

@DonJorginho you are easily forgetting that they raised PS5 prices after release. And now you are saying they will drop them? To original price?

Just because it's something costs a lot of money doesn't make it a luxury item and if it's made for the enthusiasts then it would have come with a disk drive

@Deljo Yep, if only by a tenner. PS5 slim with disc is £459.99 and no-disc version £369.99

No sign of any disc drives though!

@ChrisDeku Even if you do class the Switch as just a handheld, the fact that it has sold more than the DS, 3DS and Game Boy is pretty astonishing in my book.

"Strong start" = barely selling. Be honest.

@DonJorginho the PS6 will be for the masses so will be priced accordingly.

If the PS6 is slower than the PS5 Pro who will buy one? There is no way Sony will make the PS6 faster than the PS5 Pro and charge less money for the console.