Metacritic Responds to Ongoing Dragon Age: The Veilguard Review Bombing Campaign

The people who have the free time to review bomb something for these "reasons" don't have enough real world problems in their lives.

I don't go off of what the majority says or if the number is high, I go off of trust from trusted reviewers.

@Antbaze Yeah the clips I saw are super preachy. If I have to spend the majority of my time in a game with a character like Taash then I will play another game.

I've decided to wait for a sale. The divisiveness regarding companions and narrative and the more mixed critic reviews coming now have me thinking I made the right choice. Sometimes being out of the discourse cycle and playing the game without the noise can give you the best experience.

Either way I got Armored Core 6 on sale and damn It's From's most interesting game since Sekiro.

I watched the “pulling a barve” clip and decided that I don’t really need this game. Loved BG3, love TLOU2, I’m in favour of diversity in games.

I’m just not in favour of bad writing and a grind. Don’t feel the need to review bomb it, I’ll just buy something else.

Steam is the only "credible" place for user reviews. User reviews on MC are just a cesspit.

@Nepp67 You don't have to have her in your party at all, other than the initial recruitment mission (and then all she does is talk about dragons) let alone spend the majority of your time with her.

@Antbaze You don't understand what "propaganda" is do you?

I think it’s funny how it’s “review bombing” when it doesn’t fit the industry’s narrative. If people don’t like it or decisions developers made they can express it. Do I care one flip about their reviews? Not at all. Not sure I’ve even ever visit the Metacritic site. But they can have at it.

Meanwhile I’m just enjoying the game.

Games good, and anyone that uses the psypop demands an ignore instantly ,.and people using the word propaganda, go read a book or something or go back to school🤦‍♂️

@Secryt The problem is the game isn't a 0/10 or 1/10. That's why it's review bombing, not simply because they didn't like it. Imagine if I gave OoT 1/10 because I don't like the political message that having an unelected monarchy is a good thing. Imagine if I'm referring to that as psyops and royalist propaganda. It's safe to say, if I did do that, I'd need therapy.

@Secryt Its review bombing when its a one sentence 1/10 crying about woke from a child who hasn't even played the game.

Sounds like a case of meaningless corporate virtue signalling Vs. a brain rotten culture warrior

Is there a part in the game where you mis-gender another character and have to fulfill some kind of punishment? Can you avoid this npc or is it a forced encounter? I would like to play the game but I'm not prepared to play something if there's no alternative path through the story. Anybody shed some light on this as there's been no mention in any reviews about this.

Funny cause i dont think critic scores mean anything. They are attacking anyone with any kind of negative look on the game like skillup and mrmattyplays who dont even bring up the politic points as causes for poor score. Decide what u want but in no way should these publications be implying it should be in GOTY discussion

Is review bombing taking place? Yes.

But just so we are clear about this: The review bombing is happening both ways. I've seen some ridiculously high scores just as I've seen some ridiculously low scores. Both sides are guilty of inflicting the culture war upon us this time.

Watch a Let's Play and decide for yourself.

It's the user score. People get to give it whatever grade they want.
Do people want to manipulate others opinions as well?
I don't care if people give it 0/10 if that is what they feel like. I find that part of the process. Many also give 10/10 to completely trash games.

The commercial score exists and is right there.

@DennisReynolds That was the most, truly, Dennis Reynolds comment you’ve ever left here, and it was AMAZING!!!

@Nem this 100%. I read the reviews on pushsquare but I don't pay attention to what score they give the game because more than a few times they're scores have been stupid to say the least so I read the comments from you guys because that's more important to me when I'm deciding on if I should purchase something. Ultimately I make my own decision regardless of reviews. This review bombing thing is so funny because its so stupid.

@Northern_munkey heard it’s mandatory. It means well but it’s so heavy handed that it comes off as patronising.

Veilguard was sitting at 4.34 out of 5 stars with 4.5k users ratings when I checked psn this afternoon. But those people bought the game and clearly don’t know anything like these brave clowns review bombing a game they’ve never played for some deeply stupid and miserable reasons.

I've never in my life taken any notice of metacritic. I've never even been on the site

User score reflects how most users feel about the game? Stop the press
It is what it is, worthless feedback, so why does the media care about it? Would they care if the game didn’t have a certain political stance?

It’s like people have grown up with the caricature of gamers and decided “Yes, this is me, I will own this and triple down” - and then have a four year old hissy fit when a game features any minority.

I’m enjoying the game - the characters and writing are a bit rubbish, but after 10 hours it really starts to pick up.

@Sarcasmatwork He hasn’t even begun to peak…

@themightyant I also hate this side of gaming. All it does is ruin the experience you're having playing a game you like. Best to stay away. With that said, DAV is pretty good game and I'm having a blast.

@themightyant it's why I'm waiting for a sale and for the noise to die down. I've seen critics I like on both sides of the argument, Just better to play it when it dies down and I can judge it with based on my own play through.

I thought that Mass Effect Andromeda was let down massively by its poor writing, dialogue and characters but I enjoyed playing it when I bought it for £5 in a sale. Gonna do the same for Veilguard.

I decided to give the game a try on Steam, so I could return it if I don't like it. Well, I am now almost 30 hrs into the game and do really enjoy it. I can see what some people call a "woke agenda", but I don't mind at all and just enjoy the game.

It might not have such a high critical score if they let more people review it, but it seem they cherry picked reviewers who were more likely to give it a positive score.

Metacritic should just nix the user reviews. This keeps happening.

The problem with articles like this critiquing review bombing, which may or may not be valid in this case, is that with games like FIFA certain sites have written positive reviews to such an extent they looked to have been bought off, and don’t reflect reality. And then consumers give the real viewpoint calling out bad and terrible pay to win mechanics, especially if publishers update the game after positive reviews. Dragon’s Dogma 2 being one recent example.

For me it goes both ways. Publishers and official review sites are just as bad, if not worse.

Veilguard is certainly looking like a 3/10 from the playthroughs I've been watching so I guess at the very least the user score better reflects the actual quality of the game.
I don't condone review bombing one way or the other, and that includes when a bunch of cherry picked journalist sites overrate a bad game.

@kevinm360 or they have serious real problems that they can't do anything about, so they take their anger out at anyone they can. Video games become their whole life and identity.

@JaxxDuffer So you think a developer should pander to a small group of people? So freedom of speech is only applied when you like something?

Well I was not going to buy it but i have to now the amount of moaning about what people want is getting on my nerves.

The West really is becoming the Middle East in freedom. It's shocking that we go backward in human rights in these times.

Funny, I just checked and I couldn’t find any reviews for the PlayStation or PC platforms, and only a few for Xbox with an average of 5. Are the others hidden? Or maybe I’m not able to navigate the site as I never use it.

edit: it’s back now. Was just telling me there were no reviews for a while.

To be fair, some of the complaints I’ve seen, if true, would make the game a no go for me. Boring writing with banal “tik tok” conversations and “ forced ideological elements that detract from immersion”? Well, I’d have to play the game myself to judge that but I can well imagine it because it’s been the case with too many TV shows to count…

I’ve always been of the opinion that devs are entitled to put whatever message into their games they want of course. But then can’t complain if others don’t like it 🤷‍♂️

To then compound that with what sounds (from critical reviews also) to be myriad other issue and I can imagine that average of 5 not being far off.

I’ll give it a go if it hits plus, maybe, but I bounced hard off inquisition and this sounds even less my deal.

@thefourfoldroot1 5 could be a fair score. 1, not so much. That's the problem with user reviews.

@Carck Probably if you would ask the majority they would probably say I'm here to play a game.

If I see the insane meltdowns of people about being able to choose a extra option in gender wow. Yeah gaming is in a sad state were a choice is only good if it panders you.

Freedom of speech is not a real thing if you are sending death threats and insult the other party.

@naruball
Sure, but for me I just see it as a good or bad score, like critical reviews. The difference in numbers isn’t too important to me. There are some 10s too.

The main problem, is the same as in many areas of life, Intolerance, and people thinking their opinions are of greater importance (and just not allowing for the possibility they could be wrong).

@thefourfoldroot1 fair enough. That's something I completely agree with.

I took a look at Metacritic out of interest, and it only affirmed why I am done with that site - they appear to have zero moderation unless someone goes through the process of reporting reviews, and seem to attract all of the people with a certain type of viewpoint.
Some of the shared comments there were not just distasteful, they were borderline or probably illegal, and the people who posted them should be ashamed of themselves (but they wont be, which is sadder still).

People mostly consume art and video games for escapism. Force fed politics and hidden agendas don't feel right for them. I get it to a point. Everyone is working more for less and quality entertainment is crucial for your hard earned money. The last thing you want is a tv evangelist showing you the truth again and again. Tv got people sick first so i beg video games to differ and don't be next.

@kevinm360
I'm tempted to agree with you but how long could a poorly written review bomb really take? Probably less time than it took for us to read an article about review bombing and then commenting in it. Maybe I don't have enough problems in my life either...

@Flaming_Kaiser
Yeah, I find it 'interesting' (and quite morally sad/disgusting) that the biggest proponents of the right of 'Free speech' are those same people that have a meltdown when additional options for sexuality or gender etc are added, despite there being nothing forcing them to use these options at all, when said options are there to feel inclusive to minority groups giving them the basic right of 'freedom of expression'.

@Flaming_Kaiser - perhaps you do not understand the point being made. Nothing I said mentions freedom of speech, or pandering to entitled gamers. You are putting words in my mouth. I'm saying there are plenty of examples of manipulated critic reviews, that need to be called out.

It is freedom of expression that most of us enjoy that gives us the option to call bad practises out. Maybe some are justified, and others not. We can't have it both ways.

Review bombing: sheep herding and it's effects...

I trust my own instincts when making a decision about a game's worth, not once relied on Metacritic scores or any 1 single source for that matter.
Gather info from multiple sources, see trailers, gameplay vids and a few reviews and make up your own mind.
You may be right, you may be wrong, but it was your decision, and no one else's.
Risk is part of life, if you're too afraid to take it and own it, you're too afraid to live.

You could argue should we take critics scores seriously, personally I ignore all 10/10 and anything under 5/10 from critics and players alike. An example being Push Square giving The first Descendant a 3/10 score, basically saying the game is unplayable, which is not true at all.

I actually enjoy the game for what it is. Solid 8/10 for me.

@ATaco @kevinm360
Sadly it takes longer to 'report' a review on metacritic (and you have to be signed in to do so), than it does to actually write one...

Review bombing is not a problem, it's a symptom.
The real problem is current day game developers not understanding their core audience.
What good is a high review score if your game doesn't sell? (I'm looking at you Alan Wake 2.)
Instead of belittling gamers, maybe it's time to actually listen to some of the feedback from the people who actually are willing to pay money for your games, instead of solely focussing on praise by some review outlet.
Unless you want to play catch up with Ubisoft.

I'm really enjoying this game, which is a surprise as I tend to favour RPGs from Japan rather than Western RPGs. Whilst I'm still early enough that there must be lots more to unlock, the combat system is excellent and the environments are a wonder. My only real criticism is that the resolution gets quite low in performance mode at times, but fortunately from tomorrow there will be a Pro patch to solve that!

THAT‘S why Nintendo refuses to add user scores to its eShop.

@Johnnycide they just lost a sale...oh well.

@Flaming_Kaiser i don't know anything about that, but it's an opinion like any other. That's what the user score is trying to do, gauge opinions. It just sounds like you have a different opinion that those people, so why are you wasting time caring about it?
The user score is meaningless information, why does it need coverage everytime people don't like a game the media does?

The sooner everyone drops review scores the better.

It's not being review bombed, it's being reviewed.

"Many of the game's recent 0 out of 10, barely legible user reviews consistently feature buzzwords like "woke," "psyop," and "censorship", which makes us doubtful of the author's ability to make critical assessments."

personal attacks in whichever direction in an argument by whomever think they have the morale high ground is never constructive.

I have no sides in this quarrel, but answering "you're dumb" to an argument is no more constructive than using buzzwords.

@Carck and why do other opinions have to be "doubtful of the author's ability to make critical assessments"... that's a low blow not worthy of someone who think they have the morale high ground... I do realize the irony in what I'm saying but at least I don't go around calling people dumb ^_^

I'm playing it, I'm enjoying it. Is it the best game ever? No. Is it worthy of being considered one of Bioware's best? Also no. But it's a solid game and definitely not a 0 or 1. At the same time, everyone is entitled to an opinion. It's almost like gaming is a very subjective media, who knew?

How To Rate :

If you don’t like it : 0
If you like it, but to an extent : 1 - 10

yep

There are probably a number of questionable user reviews but a lot of valid points that are allowed to matter when people are making their decisions on their entertainment as well. I dont trust that 8 from the critics either. I've seen how similar some of those reviews are like they have been given a list of points they have to hit (are paid to hit?).

The game is certainly not a 0 or 1 out of 10, but it certainly isn't a 9 or 10 either.

I trust users score waay more than the critic score now, the best are steam user reviews score though since its score by the actual buyers 😕

For the game score, looking at the gameplay and story the game is 5 or 6 at best, the gameplay looks okay but the story and dialogue is like for children or marvel movies, and for a dragon age games, known for its dark fantasy setting, yeah that's not gonna works.

Personally I'm loving the game. I was there day one. I don't know why people say the character creation is bad, it's literally one of the most I'm depth I've ever seen. They complain you can't make female bust sizes bigger (you can, I created a female character), they say it's riddled with woke stuff, I'm halfway through the game and the only thing that resembles anything like that is selecting a pronoun at character creation. And one character that complains about her gender.

The game is beautiful looking, well written and polished, no bugs so far at all. And when do games come out like that these days?
And the announcement of no DLC, I'm good with that because we got a complete game at launch. Because in most cases I moved on and don't go back for DLC because I got stuck into something else.

Honestly, BioWare did great here but haters gonna hate. And they'll double down even when they realise they're wrong and baseless on their reasons. Review bombing is incredibly childish. Or entitled behaviour.

@themightyant It's not even just politically charged bs anymore. It's influencers and celebrities creating division too.

I don't know if you are from the UK so may need to Google the example names here, but people should have freedoms to do and pick what they want. Trouble is you have for example Katie Hopkins at one end and Sam Smith at the other who go to such extremes and have such massive followings the division is almost created on social media alone outside of politics.

Now said division has come into the gaming space and it's sad really. People should just be able to enjoy a game. If you don't like it simply don't buy it. Review bombing it does nothing but cause harm to the morale of the developers, QA testers, support staff etc that work so hard to create it in the first place.

Can only imagine the chaos if GTA VI goes in a similar direction.

If there is something about a game that a person dislikes, such that they wouldn’t even buy it in a sale or refunded it, then a 1 would be a legitimate subjective score.

That’s not “bombing”, anymore than a fan giving it a 10 is “boosting”.

It’s no more a problem than someone awarding a 9 due to some very personal subjective reason for liking a game, which I fully believe happened with a certain mainstream review.

The question is whether professional reviews should be held to higher standards.

Players can give subjective ratings that will naturally tend to bias to one extreme or other.

But should media sites be reviewing with the wider consumer base in mind? Or just giving their personal preference?

Are they telling us what they personally like or dislike (in which case we might as well look at user reviews), or is the service they provide to tell us if most of us would like it?

I don’t know the answer, but I don’t like the attitude of disregarding user reviews, no matter how extreme the score, as bombing/ fanboying.

You can always tell when a game has been review bombed by the sheer amount of reviews when compared to other games. For the most extreme example, The Last Of Us 2 has a crazy 163000+ user reviews. Compare that to another big Playstation IP like God Of War that wasnt controversial and it only has a little over 20000...

So looking at Veilguard, it currently has over 5000 user reviews already. Compared to another multiplatform game like Dragons Dogma 2 which barely has 2000 user reviews or Metaphor Refantazio which has just over 1000 or even Rebirth which has 5000 too but has been out for far longer.

When you see the numbers like this, it's blatantly obvious when a game has been bombed to lower the score. Either the game has sold large amounts, hence more reviews from disgruntled buyers or the more likely reason which is a lot of people who never bought the game using and abusing it to support whatever their agenda is.

For those who say it goes both ways, this is true but let's not pretend that there aren't far more people who will be petty and go out of their way to give a game a 0 than there are who will try to counterbalance it with 10's. Most people are just happily playing the game and aren't paying attention to the gamer culture wars.

I heard this game doesn't have accessibility. is it true?

Can’t get a good review for this game cause internet attacks it for being “woke” I’m 36 and don’t care about “woke” just want a good game to buy and play

Funny how much stock people put in other opinions. I'm about 5 hours into the game right now and there is some really stupid stuff in so far, but nothing world-shaking in my opinion. If it gets too much I'll jump to the next game on my list^^

Positive review bombing is also a thing. Funny how only selected people received reviewcopies. The game's quality speaks for itself.

It’s so funny how this lot are so thin-skinned. The same ones who love to call others “snowflakes”. Like, the “other side” didn’t like how Stellar Blade oversexualized its female lead but that game still has a 9.2 user score on metacritic. They didn’t go out of their way to review bomb the game. Meanwhile, the “anti-woke” mob latched on to every game they deem “woke” and makes it their life’s mission to give these games 0 score reviews. Seek help!

I don't trust any review. Journalists are out of touch with games and gamers do their meme reviews. I trusted my own judgement. I bought it and am enjoying it. Gameplay is fun. Characters and story are meh-okay. Nothing that stands out. It definitely is not comparable to mass effect 2 like I've heard.

Why haven't the professional reviewers picked up on the dreadful preachy dialogue, and the fact that it plays like a poor cousin to GodOfWar/ Guardians of the Galaxy?

To say it's being poisoned by twitter / YouTube when they have picked these points up (when you should have), and note that it has little in common with the original, nuanced, Origins is laughable.

Fyi Doing a bharv (sic[k]) has no place in a fantasy RPG.

I tend to listen more to the general consensus from reviews and reviewers I have similar tastes to. I never look at the user scores, because I find that gamers put bad reviews for anything. There is no way that perceived "forced wokeness" can take a decent game to a 1 out of 10. Ridiculous

Even Steam isn't as reliable, I've known of people just buying a game to review it badly and then refund it. But at least the effort that takes means most of these people don't do it.

I don't see any problems with review bombing.
If you really think user scores are worth anything, that's on you.

Watch gameplay videos on yt and decide for yourself, no one knows your taste better than you.

I fear that in the wake of the inclusive movement, many reviewers are scared to say the emperor has no clothes because of what the rest of the world might say. If it were not for those who push back against the inclusive movement I would not have even been made aware of the awful writing and preachy sections of the game. It is hard to see something as preachy or bad writing when everything they say you agree with. That is why I don't mind people calling this to our attention. If it is bad writing, reviewers should have the courage to point that out - even if they agree with everything being said. My 2 cents.

Review bombers are their own worst enemy. There are genuine major criticisms of the game but they end up getting lost in the filth of the culture war bs. Now "audience scores" are almost worthless.

@Kalime78 Echo chamber!... I thought the same thing. Just because someone reacts aggressively to score it poorly doesn't mean they are incapable of critical thought. Perhaps the author should be evaluating why PushSquare missed the awful dialogue writing in this game. Hmmm... one wonders if the table has turned?

@BIG3 This is the best approach. People want to make others feel bad for liking something (and it goes both ways) and will say absolutely anything because it’s the internet and they don’t face any genuine consequences. It’s best to ignore the discourse, although it’s difficult to do.

@Northern_munkey I watched the cut scene for it. There were no options to respond differently from what I saw

The thing of it is, when review sites put agendas into reviews they lose credibility as seen from the last couple of years of inane reviews.
Sadly legacy media do not learn and suffer.

@AceTrainerMatt what gives you the say on what is a “genuine” concern to an individual though?

You are working on the basis that their motive is to harm the game with a low score, in which case I’d agree that there are bigger scabs to pick at in a lot of titles (can’t personally speak for DA:V).

But doesn’t it occur to you that they are genuinely down rating a title due to an issue that really is a make or break to them, regardless of how trivial it is to you or I?

Politics for example can be very polarising, even in small doses.

I’m an fps/stutter obsessive and will absolutely slate 9/10 games and refund them for minor performance issues that a lot of people wouldn’t even notice.

@Secryt Name one single game that has been review bombed for failing to include diversity.

The reason you only see reporting on this specific type of review bombing is because all of the people doing review bombing are the bigots.

@ThaBEN "Review bombing is not a problem, it's a symptom.

No way you believe this nonsense! How is being angry that a game doesn't appeal to you, therefore you give it a 0 score without even playing it, considered logical to you?! It's a pitiful act by an even more pitiful group!

Do you know how much of media (games, films, etc.) I wanted to consume but didn't appeal to me so I just skipped it? I didn't go online "bombing" said games/film because there are things in it I don't like. It's easy enough to skip it. But anyway, if these people have this much time and energy to put into something they apparently don't wanna partake in, then more power to'em. Doesn't make much sense to me though. Juvenile behavior!

A companion dispute with no ability to pick a side was resolved by saying “hey, look you two, you could talk about plants instead and you’ll both be happy”.
This isn’t Dragon Age, it stole the name and used it to try and get money because it would have failed completely otherwise.

@Johnnycide "Don’t feel the need to review bomb it, I’ll just buy something else."

My God, how much better would the gaming world be if more people would think this way!

@DennisReynolds Can't games be user-review-bombed on Steam as well?

To me, anytime you can introduce a scale system to a large group of people, that scale system can be easily manipulated.

@Juvenlast somebody mentionned in the comments that they went through the user reviews on metacritic, and that some people used foul language and should be ignored for that reason, which I find acceptable, compared to just labelling people mentioning buzzwords as dumb.
I think the word would go much better if "morale elite" (on both sides) came down from their high horse and listen to content of a message rather than its form. This self declared righteousness on all sides, is what is driving us to radicalization, political debates that are reduced to name calling each other, wars, depression, sadness and grey rainy days ^_^ There is truth to the need to represent minorities and respect them, and there is truth in respecting the integrity of creative views.

@boogieman117 You have to own the game on Steam to post a review.

@breakneck oooh, AC6 is next in my backlog, but was hoping for a Pro patch... no news on that front unfortunately... wish you a great playthrough, it looks awesome ^_^

I do this novel thing called playing a game before I rate it.

Having played several hours of the game, it deserves lower scores than it has. Not because of the reasons that it is getting review bombed, but because it is just a 'meh' game.

The game looks great, but the art style doesn't fit the universe, or the tone they are trying to portray.

The combat is fun, but is super repetitive. Over time it just gets boring.

Narrative is interesting solely because it is the continuation of Inquisition's story, and even then, most of the time loses my interest. Most of the time your dialog choices doesn't seem to matter at all. A lot of the choices are saying the same thing, but with a different tone. Reminds me of how Fallout 4's dialog was handled.

The biggest issue is that this doesn't feel like a Dragon Age game. It feels like they just took a big name and attached it to a product to get sales.

If I was reviewing the game, I would be looking at a 6 or 7 out of 10.

Does anybody legitimately take any notice of user reviews on Metacritic? 99% of the people who post "scores" and "reviews" there are absolute melts who couldn't think objectively or critically if their lives depended on it.

@JaxxDuffer I did watch a dude on YouTube go mental about pronouns so yes it's a thing. Look at X OMG the amount of hate there spewed is terrifying.

But I always forget the right are calling the left snowflakes all the time but they cant handle anything.

Its like talking to a religious person that says you should show some respect to religion while condemning everything that is not 100% like them.

@themightyant To make a short and easy to read comment. People can't believe/handle that they are not the only person in the world.

It's impossible to understand that if something is made for more people besides them it's a bad thing. We life in sad selfcentered world that can't accept that there is more then their own believes.

I dont mind the review bombing. Makes me research into what irks the players so much , which is usually something the professional reviewers ignore, and see if it is a deal breaker or not.

@Markatron84 Given the sheer amount of comments here and a whole article being dedicated to it. As much as it pains me to say it unfortunately it appears a lot do take notice of metacritic user review scores.

My view they are about as useful as Rotten Tomato ratings are to Movies and TV shows.

@Rich33 @ATaco let me rephrase haha. (Might edit my original comment too). While not necessarily a big time investment for the "review bomb", they still care too much about something inconsequential in the grand scheme

@darylb24 boo! common sense! boo!

@Cruz13 I’m also 36, I also don’t care about woke and I have Dragon Age Veilguard so here’s my review just for you my friend: It’s fun you should give it a go! 😁

Imagine if people just focused more on what they like instead of what they don't like.

@kevinm360
I was agreeing with you - just lamenting a system where reporting a review comment was more cumbersome than making it in the first place - it should just be 1 click to send to moderation (particularly as MC do not moderate of their own backs it seems).

I find steam to be the most accurate user reviews.

Im mostly enjoying it even though it's not a dragon age game and feels much like a young teens my first rpg.

I personally don't agree how high the reviews are for it and even though the writeing is at best average, the voice acting is just about ok, story is meh and the design makes it looks like a pixar film.

The problem with the "wokeness" if you will is very heavy handed and poorly done and not written like real people, or at least I hope real people don't act and talk like that. Mabey some Americans do but still 🤷

@GeeEssEff @Cruz13 I think am gonna get it

@DennisReynolds You weren't saying that when helldivers was getting negative reviews on steam 😆

If anyone bothered to read the steam reviews they don't even come off as positive they come off as neutral but marked positive due to a lack of a middle ground option, literally reading the top reviews right now and one person with 50+ hours claims it's for casuals, another with 9 hours says the writing is the "worst ever endured in AAA game" and one with 70 hours says "the magic of bioware is gone and i am feeling hollow" , all rated positive due to a lack of an in-between option.

@Cruz13 Treat yo self!!

@Deityjester Yeah a basic look through seem to mostly say it's a 7/10 game that is good but maybe not full price good. Steam lacking a mixed option is sad as I think it would lead to more accurate scores.

From all, info you can gather, seems like regular gaming sites reviews lack as much integrity or more than the user reviews, and cancel other views too.

Just found it really really strange that most positive reviews used the exact same phrasing is that a coincidence? Review bombing is infantile but is just as bad as MSM all pumping out paid for reviews the whole system is rotten the best way to find out if a game is any good is play it for yourself

@ChimpMasta
I would consider a person who has not even played the game and gives the game a 0/10 because of "woke" to be disingenuous. Even if those concerns are legitimate to the individual its not an honest way to give a 0 unless the game is really truly unplayable and awful. It would be like me giving a GTA or RDR game a 0/10 because I don't agree with stealing and murdering without even playing the game. It says more about me than it does the game itself.

Problems with performance are undoubtedly genuine concerns.

If they allow people to give it a 10 then they should allow people to give it a 0.