@BAMozzy Like I said I only found Niflheim a tad grindy and even then I still enjoyed it. Mind you it took me a lot longer to complete the game and I varied up all the stuff I had to do after I finished the story.
@Feena If you are finding it boring not using fast travel, why don't you just use fast travel?
Have you unlocked all the moves and runic abilities? That will life much easier in defeating the regular enemies.
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@JohnnyShoulder I did all the side quests etc before I finished the story. I found Muspelheim grindy too as it is 'just' combat in one arena after another after another. The only real difference between that and Niflheim was the more random nature of the combat and 'gas' but still its the same 'combat' loop over and over again in areas that look virtually identical. I almost didn't bother with the Platinum because of those two realms but as they were just repetitive 'grinding' rather than actually having to do something (like beat the whole game a 2nd time on NG+ or rush through it under 5hrs or something stupid like that),I persevered. Fast travel was hardly 'fast' either - hiding a loading screen behind that 'tree' sequence is still a loading screen and gets tedious if you are jumping from 1 place to the next just to collect a missing raven or two. The only things I didn't do/unlock/upgrade were to craft ALL the armour pieces and runic moves - especially those that relied on the stuff you get in Nilfheim as I couldn't face more grinding...
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Haven't had a badass plat for a while. Some of my favourites are hunting down the From Software ones such as Bloodborne, Dark Souls, Armored Core, etc.
Their next big game being single player only, will be interesting to see how I get on.
Hopefully the publisher doesn't interfere too much.
@LieutenantFatman Miyuzaki has confirmed From has editorial and directive control over the game and the game's contents. From have asked Activison in some guidance in how to make it a bit more accessible such as putting in a proper tutorial in the game, but overall Activision are leaving From to their own devices.
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I feel dirty for buying the few outstanding trophies I had in Nier but the temptation to press one button to get the "all endings trophy" rather than grind through obtaining and levelling all weapons was just too great.
I finally, finally got the Dirt 4 platinum. Got to the end of the last event that I needed to do and the platinum didn't pop. Then I realised I hadn't done the tutorial, so I had to go back to driving school.
I'd just been winning every event under the sun and now here I was weaving through cones at 10mph. It was very demeaning.
Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.
@JohnnyShoulder Noo, I don’t want a more proper tutorial in a From game. Heck, go back to King’s Field, the predecessor to Dark/Demon Souls on the PS2. It’s first person and the first thing you do in the game is step onto a lava pit you didn’t realize was there. It needs opening that just kills you lol. On a more serious note though, I felt like Bloodborne had enough of a tutorial honestly.
@Splat Congrats! I just got my 4000th trophy.
I made it a good one though, with platinum #23 InFamous Second Son.
I absolutely did not strategically pop that trophy .
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Playing SOTC again on PS4 and for once I think the trophies (beside my addiction) actually add to the game with rewards for clearing the time trials - finding some easter eggs and so on - I was worried cause i loved TLG but the trophies were really not complementary to that game.
@Splat Congrats! I just got my 4000th trophy.
I made it a good one though, with platinum #23 InFamous Second Son.
I absolutely did not strategically pop that trophy .
Yeah, after I got it I was like man I should have tried to make that a Plat. Too later now...
@Splat@Fight_Teza_Fight I tried to make my milestone trophies meaningful ones, but I just can never get the planning down right. I always end up with some random bronze trophy ending up in that spot.
@Feena I haven’t played The Last Guardian yet, and I have to admit, the difficult trophies are a slight deterrence. I won’t let it stop me from eventually playing what is supposed to be an otherwise great game, but I agree that the trophy list should augment and as you say “compliment” the experience, rather than just serve as a frustration or hindrance.
Interesting note though — when I looked at the trophy list for TLG after reading your comment, I noticed that it says only 28.6% of people achieved the trophy for finishing the game, and yet 29.3% of people achieved the trophy for completing the game in under 30 hours. Uh... I’m no mathematician, but how can the achievement rate for completing under 30 hr be higher than just completing the game at all? 😂
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TLG trophies aren't hard as they are poorly conceived. There is one that basically has you listen to all the hints the narrating voice gives you when you seem to be stuck. The problem is that sometimes it takes forever or you just naturally go past a point and void the trophy...painful XD
@Feena Yeah, in my mind, a game should have most of the trophies unlock fairly naturally and then have some as a reward for those playing the game more closely and spending a little extra time exploring, then maybe a just a few harder one that take a lot of extra effort for he highly dedicated to get the platinum. I don’t mind an easy platinum now and then though. But trophies that require bizarre acts or are dependent on rng events can be super annoying and detract from the experience. If I finish a game and actually spent time exploring, doing side quests, and not just rushing through and I end the game with less than 40-50% trophy completion I’m thinking, what gives? I should at least get close to half the trophies without having to bend over backwards.
Of any game I’ve played, Nier Automata handles trophies in the most innovative and cool way, imo. My platinum there took a fair amount of effort and there was some grinding involved but it came as part of the natural diving into and spending time having fun with the game and it didn’t feel like a chore, more like a cool reward for making it to the true end and delving into the world. But, oh ... I won’t go any further since that’s right, you haven’t played it yet.
@Th3solution The InFamous plat was the first one I went out of my way for, to make a ‘milestone trophy’.
I sync my trophies maybe once a week & realised I was only 15 trophies of #4000, but had 10 trophies left for InFamous SS...so I quickly beat InFamous FL which gave me 4 story trophies + 1 other .
I kept thinking I was going to pop a random trophy and ruin everything😢😅.
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@Kidfried Nice one! I'm doing terrible personally, but you just reminded me that I should probably update that thread sometime soon-ish.
Maybe once I beat MGS4 .
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