It's been years in the making, and frankly long overdue, but Sony's finally launched the DualSense Edge, a pricey pro-controller made for those competitive PS5 players out there. With a bunch of added features on top of those from the DualSense controller, there was already a lot to like about the Edge from the get go. But with its purse-tightening £210/$200 price tag, are all those extra bells and whistles really worth the hassle?
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Sony was kind enough to send us along a unit, and we’ve spent the last week bringing that pro experience to titles such as Fortnite, Apex Legends, and Gran Turismo 7. So with all that experience, would we recommend this pricey pro controller? Let’s find out.
What's the DualSense Edge?

The DualSense Edge is Sony’s answer to the Xbox Elite Controller, bringing a more competitively tinged gaming experience to the PS5. The Edge features trigger depth settings, replaceable stick modules, customisable back paddles, and replaceable thumbstick caps, all of which are features you can find on other third party pro controllers.
The selling point of the DualSense Edge however, is that it also comes with those immersive DualSense features such as haptic feedback and adaptive triggers. Putting both those immersive and customisable qualities together in theory is a winning combination.
What's in the Box?
With its pricey entry point you'll be glad to know that the DualSense Edge experience starts out rather boujee, with a slick black and white carry case. We were genuinely impressed by the quality on show with the case’s hard shell exterior fitted with PlayStation shapes, symbols, and even branded zip pads. It even has a small opening flap meaning you can charge the controller nestled inside, without having to remove it.
Inside the case is really what you are after, though, and in here the Edge likes to keep things simple. With the controller taking up the majority of the space, you will find four metal back paddle buttons, four convex styled thumbstick caps, a charger wire lock bracket, and a lengthy braided USB-A to C charging cable stored in a netted compartment. It’s all neatly kept together, however, we did find that the longer paddles were a little difficult to keep in place once they had been taken out for the first time. You can see our first impressions of the case and its content over on the Push Square YouTube channel with our DualSense Edge unboxing video.
How Does the DualSense Look?

At first glance, the DualSense Edge just looks like a new colour option for the original DualSense. However, get up close and personal with this thing and you’ll realise that it has a few nice design tweaks that make it stand apart from its PS5 brethren.
For one, across the front panel the matted finish is replaced with a glossy black, to tie in with the black and white contrasted design of the d-pad and face buttons. Personally, we preferred the original matte finish, but of course, each to their own. The touchpad is the most notable change, however, as it now hosts a more angular design and the small PlayStation shapes across its face. Once you turn the controller on, you’ll also notice that the light bar has been removed from the bottom of the panel, and is replaced with three small lights fitted into the touchpad. However, you still have your boot-up lights that cover both the left and right side of the touchpad that emphasise this new design.
Put all of that together and you have a far sleeker and more aggressive looking DualSense, that overall we enjoyed. It might not stand out in the way that the Elite controller does over on Xbox, but those familiar with the DualSense will notice the design changes on show with the Edge.
How Does the DualSense Feel During Gameplay?

You’ll feel right at home when you first pick up the DualSense Edge, as despite the slimmer feel to the controller grip, this is largely an identical experience to the original DualSense. However, across both physical and in-console customisation options, you’ll quickly have your Edge fine-tuned in a way that transforms how you game.
The physical options such as adjusting trigger depth and even replacing stick modules is pleasingly accessible. And the latter means you’ll never have to worry about your money being flushed down the toilet when stick drift comes knocking. The back paddles feel natural under your hands, which is only complemented by the satisfying magnetic click that snaps them into position effortlessly. They may seem a little fiddly to start and they certainly aren’t the sturdiest, but once you get into the habit of switching them out, it'll become second nature.

Once the physical customisation is out of the way, the in-menu options on the PS5 are relatively simple, allowing you to mess around with stick and trigger dead zones and button remapping. The back paddles of course are your MVPs here and they can make a substantial difference to any game you are playing.
Flicking through our inventory on Fortnite by remapping the L1 and R1 buttons or mapping the slide/crouch to the right paddle on Apex Legends simply streamlined our gaming experiences, and we can’t really imagine going back to a controller without these options. To make things better you can save up to three unique gaming profiles, which you can toggle by holding one of the Fn buttons and tapping an assigned face button. It’s all really well thought out, and allows you to spend less time messing with the controller, and more time playing the games.
Speaking of time with the controller, there has been a lot of discussion surrounding the Edge's smaller battery life over the original DualSense. During the review period, we managed to play about six hours from full charge before the battery was completely drained. Those six hours were made up of a variety of games with pretty intense haptic feedback, and both the haptics and adaptive triggers were left at full strength. It isn't miles away from what you'd get on your standard DualSense, but realistically with the charger lock bracket, a lot of enthusiasts looking to get the most of this controller will play it wired, countering any potential battery issues.
Should You Buy A DualSense Edge?

For as much as we love this new controller, it's undoubtedly a hard sell for some. Coming in at three and a half times the value of the default DualSense, are those additional customisation options really worth the money? Truthfully, for most gamers out there, no.
However, this isn’t marketed for the casual gamers. This is for those of you who love to fine-tune and streamline your gaming experiences, to ensure you are getting the competitive edge. On that basis, the DualSense Edge may be one of the best pro controllers out there, as it not only comes with customisable features, but also those impressive next-gen haptics. Pairing these up, and you have a controller that amplifies both the competitive and the immersive capabilities of the PS5, something that is often missing in controllers of this ilk. Sure, we’d love to see the price drop a little, but when you partner up these features with the ways in which it actually improves over the original DualSense, and you have a controller that is premium in every sense of the word.
Will you be upgrading to the DualSense Edge when it launches on 26th January? Let us know down in the comments.
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Whereas I didn’t hesitate to give Sony £550 for their phenomenal VR headset, I would laugh in their face if they asked me to pay a couple of hundred for the mediocre upgrades in this controller.
But then I guess this is for the wannabe pro crowd.
So no, I won’t be upgrading. Won’t even consider considering it, lol.
I really want paddles but not at this price point wish they just brought the back button attachment out for the dual sense would of definitely snapped one of them up
Part of the selling point for me is obviously the back triggers but being able to swap out & replace the stick modules £20.I already had drift on one of the stick on the DaulSense luckily I got my PS5 with two DaulSenses, I would rather spend £20 on a stick modules than £59.99 everytime I get drift.
Please. PLEASE can we get that deadzone adjustment feature for normal DualSense controllers Sony. The deadzone range is just too small and is what is causing drift for so many.
@banacheck You shouldn't need to do either if Sony would just allow us to adjust dead zones as we can on this pro controller.
I'll wait for a sale. I got a regular controller and Horizon Forbidden West for £45 before Xmas which makes the cost of this seem even more ridiculous.
$200 to solve the stick drifting pandemic , well i’ll be damned
I already have seven controllers and I don't care about the extra buttons or customisation options this one has, and I think it looks worse than the standard controller, and it costs £200 so I can't think of a good reason to ever buy one of these.
If it's ever on sale for £100 I'll buy it. More than that is ridiculous.
Mine came yesterday.
It looks so nice I've been half afraid to touch it.
Getting my daily Forspoken run in atm. Once that's done I'll give the controller a proper go with some Century: Age of Ashes and Back 4 Blood.
Got mine this morning. Mighty fine controller but 6 hours battery life is a major bummer. I have no intentions of using it wired…
Does it fit on the official DualSense charging station? It looks like it would.
@Loamy I plugged my DualSense's into a PC, as well as various other controllers, to do some diagnostics. The sticks are actually off by less than my PS4 and XBO pads that don't show drift, yet the PS5 ones do.
It's so frustrating as this is all a software problem and now they even have the software tool to fix it... just not for stock controllers yet.
I already paid for one overpriced controller with my Elite 2 that came with a bundle. Admittedly I like it a lot but I don’t need or use most of the features. Battery is awesome and it’s very comfortable. I hope those who get this enjoy theirs. That said, I think the standard dual sense stands up fine against the Elite ergonomically….
It sounds great but the price is just too much to justify it imo. And it looks even uglier than the original design with the shiny plastic. It might look better if they release an all black version.
@Relygon @Shepherd_Tallon may i ask a question that has me on the fence, you can help swing that. One of my many issues with Dual sense even tho overall, it is my favorite PS controller ever, as controllers has been a long going issue with me and PS . That is do the rounded grips at the end feel better than the squared off ones on Dual sense? I don’t like the squared off ends, i noticed on this it is more rounded like a xbox controller which i prefer. Also in this article is states a slimmer feel in hand, what do you make of those two things?
@Shepherd_Tallon I’ve just started playing Forspoken and I’m really enjoying it. The first hour or so is a bit shaky but once you get the freedom to explore the open world its quite good. Much better than I was expecting given all the drama about it online.
@thefourfoldroot1 wow. Talk about not understanding what you're talking about. Smh
On topic, I would like one, but not at the price. But I spend more than that on other hobbies. But the have to come down for me to indulge.
Shame they kept the awful PS shaped button tho instead of going back to the much nicer feeling round one from the dualshocks.
Have had my PS5 since launch day and still hate the horrible feel of the edges of that 'button' under my thumb.
Thanks for your impressions, Aaron. First thing I'd do is swapping the analog sticks for the domed ones. Yes, I am that 0.1% who prefers them.
As much as I do game it's not often enough that I could justify $200 for a controller. The Dualsense, as it is, works perfectly fine and, imo, is the best controller there's ever been. Still, the extra bells and whistles added to this are nice and for a slightly lower cost I would consider making an exception to my rule of not going over $90 for an extra controller.
@johncalmc. I agree with you.the dual sense controller is already amazing.and this controller price is ridiculous.and im not a fan of the back buttons and customisation also.word up son
It's not for me, I have two DualSenses that are perfectly fine and I don't need the extra functionality. It looks pretty good for what it is, though.
I can't argue that its 'probably' the best controller for Playstation 5 and brings 'pro' gaming features to their controller but I do think they are somewhat over-priced for what extras it offers and the battery life is not good enough.
From my perspective, My Xbox Elite is my #1 controller on Xbox/PC and I cannot 'justify' paying that much to get something 'similar' just to use on PS5. I shouldn't have to pay £20 to 'fix' thumbstick issues, but I guess it does open up the potential to sell 'upgraded' thumbsticks in the future. I also think ALL controllers should be 'customisable' to allow individuals to choose what every input does, reassign them to suit their preference. If you want 'X' where 'Square' normally is or vice versa, you should be able to reassign regardless - not have to buy a 'Pro' controller...
The few standard DualSense I have I'm perfectly happy with and don't feel the need to fork out £200 for a slightly better version of the existing £65 or £70 standard DualSense. I'm glad to see the Edge exists just not at 200. If or when Edge 2 happens I'll most likely get a new Edge 1 on a half price discount maybe. All about them games
Simply to expensive for what it is and what it offers ,if it was half its retail price I'd consider it but at 200odd quid no thanks I'll stick with the brilliant dualsense,I'm sure the edge is a great controller but I'd much rather put that 200quid towards psvr2
Can we please stop saying this is a "slight change" or "mediocre upgrade"? Even the most Jaded PS5 owner can see with their one good eye closed that there are a lot of upgrades and improvements with this controller.
If you don't want one or don't want to spend the money...FINE...but it doesn't mean the product doesn't have substantial changes.
Edit: I won't be buying one either as I cannot justify spending the money. But I can see its value beyond my tiny scope of reality.
@banacheck £20 to change sticks due to drifting is still the price of another game you could get off a sale. It's a waste. They need to find a solution to these hypersensitive controls employed in today's games.
Looking forward to unboxing mine when I get home.
For those moaning about the price of this, have you compared it to the other pro controllers for PS5, many with fewer features
Look at the options from Scuf, Razer and Hex gaming, to name 3 alternatives.
Lower the price a bit and i am game
@Shepherd_Tallon
Congratz mate, I'm a little jealous! I cant justify the cost as I went £10k over budget last year (Hi Fi addiction is dangerous), but I'd be all over it if it didnt risk my marriage! I also have have four Dualsense already....
I hope to see you give some feedback on it once you've had it a week or two. Enjoy!
I haven't actually used mine yet, but I did get a chance to do my own "hands on first impressions" holding it this morning and can at least immediately point out a few things that really seem not to be covered in the various reviews. I get the impression most of the reviews and previews of these have been from people that honestly just don't think about their controllers much and really don't care about the premium controllers because I haven't seen one review that covers the details that the people who actually buy these things are looking for!
OVERALL impression so far is ergonomically it has done everything I wanted it to do. It's still a total rip-off at $200, and it's a tweakable, refined DS5 rather than a total premium build like the Elite (but with fixable drift unlike Elite.)....definitely a PS Tax. Is it worth $200? Hard no. Is it worth upgrading if you're a controller obsessive that likes but doesn't love DS5 ergonomics and can justify the spend? Possibly. Though we all know the battery that I haven't tried yet is the weak point for massive damage.
@TheArt @banacheck in TheVerge's preview they specifically asked their Sony handlers if Hall effect sensor sticks are a possible future upgrade, and Sony refused to comment on future stick modules. I suspect if it sells decently they may plan to sell other tech stick modules later on.
@Green-Bandit Short answer, yes they feel a lot better. Very similar to the Xbox controllers. I’m not a huge fan of the original DualSense, never felt comfortable in my hands. But the Edge with its “tighter” body and rounded grips feels real comfy even for me.
I have several DualSense controllers and will never justify this purchase. It looks worse and doesn't warrant its price.
Are they gonna sell the stick replacements on their own?
@DualWielding They do, $20 each (US) currently, and they'll arrive in stores along with the controller late Feb around the same time VR2 launches. It's overpriced, you break even vs throw-away DS5's after the 3rd stick replacement... But at least you don't lose a $200 controller to drift and it's just $20 to repair.
I was debating on pre-ordering one but decided not to. With 7 Dualsense controllers, I can wait a little while on this.
I will admit that when I play games on my Series X with the Elite Series 2 or PS4 games with a Dualshock 4 and back button attachment, I miss the back buttons after picking up a Dualsense.
I don't play games competitively, so I don't take advantage of everything a Pro style controller has to offer (trigger stops, thumb stick tension, ect), but the back buttons and premium feel is great for someone like me who games multiple hours a day.
I'll eventually pick one up, but for now, the standard Dualsense is fine.
@Titntin I'll be honest - I pre-ordered it with the option to cancel it if I didn't like what I heard about it, then completely forgot I had ordered it until I got the dispatch email 🙃
I had no intention of cancelling it though so all good.
The package itself is absolute class. It all feels very premium, which is what I want at that price.
I'm going to get stuck in to it now for the evening to see how it plays. I won't be going to the pub or doing much else for a long time after paying for this so I'll have plenty of time to test it...
@Green-Bandit I just picked it up to see how it felt.
I hadn't noticed any issues with the original Dualsense regarding the squared off ends of the hand grips.
However, holding the Edge in my hands after reading your comment, I can say that the rounded ends definitely allow for more comfortable placement of my pinkie fingers.
It's such a small thing, and this is not something I had considered until I read your comment, but now I can't stop noticing it.
It definitely feels like a better fit.
Also, the inside surface of the hand grips on the Edge feel a little rubbery, which improves the grip nicely. Although I may be wrong about this. It may just be because the controller is new and it hasn't been polished by 100s of hours of gameplay yet.
I just want the undeneath paddles as an addon on the base ds5. 25$ would be a good price.
Oh, one other detail worth mentioning is there's no way it's not a dirt magnet and kinda gross after a while, I'm sure. The rubberized interior grips were one of my key features and I was prepared to be disappointed that it wasn't rubberized based on other reviews not talking about it, so I'm super glad it really is. But. It's white rubber/silicone. No way that passes the Dorito test, or doesn't look kind of grimy and blackened after a short while of use, where even the black silicone on the Elite tends to get a weird gray-white grimy band after a while, white silicone is just going to stain/blacken, and that's that. And the glossy plate, we all know what the scratches and finger oils that's going to attract. It may become the favorite PS controller for people who buy them, but it's not the controller you're going to want to be handed by the person who bought it as player 2
@Shepherd_Tallon Yeah, it's definitely a silicone or rubber insert in the interior bottom of the grip. That's one of the key features I ordered for referenced in an early preview, and then no preview or review mentioned it again. I almost cancelled, and definitely expected nothing but deeper XODA pattern molding in the plastic when I got it after that. I nearly squee'd when I picked it up and found it really is rubber/silicone after all! Failure of the Dorito Test(TM) aside.
@Relygon thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my question. I know going on a Pro PlayStation site and saying i prefer the Xbox Controllers since 360, isn’t making me popular, which is sad cause i am just saying what works better for me, not saying I haven’t own every PlayStation and ton’s of accessories. But it was the squared off bottom that i thought made the controller rest weird in the hands and was just an odd decision to do honestly. There is likely no way i will ever like the thumb sticks or their placement better than xbox, nor the triggers or bumpers. But i do really enjoy the controller compared to anything Sony has had before it. So much so i am thinking of dropping the money on one. Your help along with others will push me one way or the others, so again thank you for you time and help. Enjoy your Edge and all games that you play 😊
@Shepherd_Tallon
Dude this pad is for ppl playing competetive FPS online games
@johncalmc How many rakned PVP FPS games do you play? This gamepad is basically strictly for that and the price is comparable with AimControllers, Turtle Beach or SCUF. If You want to play Tomb Rider on that then you are overpaying a lot of monery.
@NEStalgia much like i thought it would, your attention to detail and passion for controllers like me would be the deciding factor i would use. Battery aside i am 60/40 in favor of getting one. But think i will wait for more hands on time review from you. I know you will have more to say about the trigger stops and feel of it once you put 3-5 hours playtime. So far what you said was more helpful than all the reviews i read and thank you for taking the time to give me such detail. For as much as i hated the Six axis and Dual shock 4, this is the first sony controller that is mostly right for me. So i am very interested.
@Shepherd_Tallon first of thank you for taking the time to reply to me. I know most of you on here know i am more a Xbox guy. Tho i have owned every PS ever made and love them, one thing always made me go back to playing xbox and that was the controllers. Sony controllers just never felt good in my hands for long, and not good for the games i prefer to play. Dual Sense is the first controller they have made that i really really like, however and i know its small detail and comes off nit picky, but the squared off corners of the Dual sense kinda bothered my pinkie and rest in the hand feel, compared to the rounded Xbox. I noticed this in the first Sony video showing of the Edge, i was like it’s rounded, i have to feel that. So thats why i asked and again thank you for not only saying it does feel better, but for not giving me a hard time that to me the squared was a slight issue. I am at the moment 60/40 in favor of getting an Edge. Enjoy the new controller and all the games you care to play, this industry is about fun, excitement and passion, not about cutting into others for what they like that others don’t. I will always be a Xbox and Playstation guy 😊
@Tr3mm0r I would argue that it's for whatever I want it for, but I got it for Century, a game that I play a lot of PvP in. Also for Factions when it arrives, and whatever other online games Sony release in the next few years.
I'll definitely use it in GT7 too.
Having said that, I've already started mapping more convenient controls for exploration in Forspoken. It works perfectly.
@Green-Bandit "...this industry is about fun, excitement and passion, not about cutting into others for what they like that others don’t."
I couldn't agree more 😊
Mine randomly went to the wrong depot, so have to wait until tomorrow for it to arrive. Really looking forward to getting it. Since getting rid of the series X I've missed the elite series 2 for FPS games. This being a combination of both is like a dream.
@Green-Bandit Hah, don’t sweat it my guy. You’ve got nothing on me. I main PC (currently), prefer Xbox controllers, love Sony’s excellent first party titles and Push Square is still my go to site for gaming news. Oh and I’m enjoying Forspoken. The horror!
I’m sure you’ll love the Edge as long as you can put up with the mediocre battery life.
I have SCUF controller for PS5 and i regret i didn't wait for the Edge. SCUF is amazing for CoD and other competitive FPS games BUT i had to design it (https://scufgaming.com/fr/playstation5-scuf-reflex-fps) to have no trigger travel just a click so if i am playing games i want adaptive triggers i have to switch to normal DualSense. Edge has the ability to just switch from one to another and it is awsome.
I cannot see myself getting one of these. The Dual Sense is probably my favourite controller ever! How would you feel this upgrade may improve my time with fighting games?
@Relygon HAHA that awesome, i main Xbox, PS5 for exclusives, Switch for Nintendo exclusives and use this site along with Pure Xbox. I wish i liked PC more. I could see myself enjoy a gaming PC some days. I am an exclusive Apple household. But a gaming PC would be rad i think. I know the battery life is bad heading into it. I will deal with that as long as i like the feel of everything else.
@Chessboxer the price is stupid no matter how you try to spin it . at the end of the day it’s just a damn controller
Some more observations after using it for a good while for anyone curious including @green-bandit:
Overall it's great in my hands, I really enjoyed using it today and it does definitely make me enjoy playing ps games more which I hoped. However the Xbox controllers still have the..... Edge...... Heh..... For ergonomics to me personally, but this brings ps pretth close. A bit of a shame it takes $200 to get the ergonomics to match and the feel still doesn't match elite 2, but, for me, I'm satisfied with my purchase and glad I bought it, at least until the battery conks out....
Hopefully someone will find all this useful because of all the reviews of all the publications I've seen for it I'm convinced not one of the authors has ever bought a pro controller before or even knows what details people that buy them are looking for!
@NEStalgia doing God's work here! Thank you 🙏
I still don't understand who signed off on the glossy plate. It quite clearly looks worse than the original controllers which is just weird and, although silly, kind of puts me off from the start
To the people complaining about the price of the controller: you clearly aren’t the market for this.
Just because a Ferrari is expensive doesn’t mean that you have to complain. There’s plenty of other cars that can get you from a to b.
As a competitor to the Xbox elite controller and other custom high end controllers, this is awesome to see.
In Sweden its €279 cuz a lot of BS taxes, so it’s not for me at this time.
@NEStalgia so i want to thank you for the detailed review and more real life experiences compared to just the vanilla reviews I’ve read. Your attention to detail is second to none, and I have OCD, so thats a compliment HAHA, well friend, i must admit as someone that has said and shared my many dislikes of Sony controllers since PS3, i am buying an EDGE Dual sense. Between my own interests and your reviews i am sold on it. I just think it will make me enjoy playing on PS5 more and while $200 sucks to spend to enjoy my experience more, it’s what i have accepted to do. A lot of people actually heard and accepted my remarks about the squared off ends of DS and how i was happy to see rounded on the EDGE. It was like they didn’t even think about that until they held it and then comment back to me saying hey you were right this does make a difference, that made me happy as many on here and Pure Xbox probably think my passion and details are nit picky and not worth their time. The squared off ends were my first impressions with DS that i didn’t like at first touch, and find it an odd design choice. I would like to see Sony make other stick caps in the future as their caps have never been my favorite shape, size or feel, compared to xbox. Battery life aside, i think this is a solid step for Sony and puts the PS5 even more into luxury, then consoles before it. Thank you again for your time and well written review, trust me i have been waiting for your replies before impulse buying it, so you were 50% of my buying decision. I only say that to ensure you I trust your word.
@Green-Bandit Glad to hear my writeups helped you decide! I'm positive you're going to like it a lot! It's not for everyone, it's overpriced by far, and it's not going to make you suddenly prefer using the PS controller over the XB controller, but for those of us who are very very particular about our controllers, it has enough of an upgrade in the feel of actually using it that it's going to make the many hours that will be spent even on exclusives alone that much more enjoyable.
The squared off edges is really a weird design. Even I didn't even realize it was annoying me until I read the first Edge preview and it clicked. I think I know why they did it. That black bezel that wraps around (the matte black plate under the sticks down to the squared ends) all snaps out as one piece to open it up. It's a design based on production efficiency, it lets them assemble it in the shell, then snap the black cover on without having any particular rough seam sticking out if it doesn't match 100%, and by squaring it off means it's not going to have a bad rough edge or a sharp angle sticking up at the end, making it more likely to pop open or irritate fingers. I think if they made the grips longer it would have been fine, but as is, for people that hold the controller a certain way it means your pinky is always hanging off the end trying to fumble for purchase against that end. The Edge has a more traditional costly build that can't be assembled that way, it has to be assembled in halves and closed up because the modular stick mounts and removable panel make the "band" unnecessary. So DS5 shaved some cost corners and the result is a weird cut-off-end design that most seem to not notice, and controller obsessives are driven crazy by. Still a decent controller, but one of those nagging complaints.
I was thinking I'd like to see stick cap kits as well, if only because replacement sticks come with the stock cap and as of now I don't think there's a way to get replacement domes when they wear down. Other shapes would be nice though probably tricky with patents for so many shapes with so many companies to avoid. The caps are cheap stuff. Plastic snap-on shafts, not metal magnetics like MS, Razer, and Scuf. They feel solid and fine, but I see no reason they can't offer cap kits to refresh it. I'm assuming they will if Edge sells a certain threshold. It's eSports geared so if it takes over in competition from Scuf as the dominant on PS, I think they'll make more accessories in the future.
The price is ridiculous for what you get, no question, but in
perspective it's the price of 2.8 day one games to enhance the tactile feel of all the games you play it with. It won't be your favorite controller. I really like it but it's not my favorite. But I don't think you'll regret buying it at all. It definitely enhances the time playing PS. Even if it's only 1/10 of our library, that still represents hundreds of hours of our lives holding these things!
I think it would have been almost perfect (for those that prefer the parallel sticks anyway) if they hadn't made a bad compromise on battery.
@NEStalgia i agree if it takes off on Esports or just sells well, we will see more accessories sold, as that is high profit for Sony and pleasing gamers desire to use the controller as they intend. Honestly i find the DS to be a solid 8 in design and comfort, up from a 4 from Six Axis and a 6 for DS4. So they are going up 2 points a gen for me. I’d give the xbox a 9 if not a 10, again this is just feel in hands and how quickly i can aim and perform the way i intend too. This is for sure subjective as many will say different and i understand why. I think the Edge will be great for Street Fighter 6 and many others, Sony is looking to make more shooters and multiplayer games it seems this gen so Edge will get me it’s money’s worth and more. I am now awaiting to see what Xbox does with Elite 3. It could be there answer to not only the edge but to some of Elite 2’s issues. This gen is starting to heat up finally, i would like to see some Ui improvements to both and then just drops the games and we are there. Thanks again for your time on it, i am a controller snob for sure, have been most my gaming life, to me it’s one the most important features of the whole setup, i struggled with the amazing PS3 games using that controller. Then i would pick up my 360 and just love the controller all over again. I went to PlayStation Direct and they still had edges in stock, I have the Inzone H9’s also and love them, so this will match nicely. My PS5 setup is complete 😊
@Green-Bandit Generally I never trust Sony to properly support new products long term and add a lot of obvious replacements/accessories. But since this is connected to eSports, and that's a huge marketing potential to get more of their product out there, I think they'll support it well IF eSports adopts their controller over the conventional Scuf/Razer lock on that market. The replaceable sticks, annoying as the concept is, is the big draw there. Every eSports player has a box full of dead Scufs. Popping out stick modules is huge for that market, and that alone might see it become the defacto competition controller for PS comps.
Even if they only sell replacement packs, though, I'd hate to think you just get one shot at the convex domes but can't replace them with anything but stock when they wear down.
One weakness of the Edge for the target market is only having 2 paddles. I personally usually only use 2 paddles anyway but for anyone that uses the 4 paddle mapping it's a non-starter.
The 4 paddle configuration is mostly used for a certain comp play style in which you do not use the face buttons AT ALL, the face buttons, not stick buttons, are mapped to the paddles, so that the thumbs NEVER leave the sticks ever. I don't play that way so I don't often use the second set of paddles, and am not missing them on Edge, but, not having the option is still a negative. Not sure why they didn't include the option, but I suspect it has to do with the mounting for the paddles taking up a lot of interior space. Their starting design goal was to not change the form factor at all based on feedback of the eSports players they interviewed for the design. That really limited what they could do with it.
IDK what to expect on Elite 3, I think the pro controller landscape is pretty much a mature landscape at this point, and all the entries generally have the same overall product. Edge's main selling points are that it's the exact same profile as the stock controller with all the features, and the replaceable sticks to address stick wear.
I think the only meaningful changes for Elite 3 would be if they switched to microswitch buttons like Razer (mouse clicky buttons rather than soft rubber dome buttons) and FINALLY put in Hall or Optical sticks and did away with the need for modular sticks at all. I still don't know why Sony overengineered modular sticks instead of just using Hall, it had to have cost 4x more in R&D and a LOT more in mfr costs. AND took up valuable space inside the unit. I can only imagine it's to sell the sticks as an ongoing revenue stream, or it's for the marketing "cool" factor of little moving parts instead of just a fixed device that works forever. The same reason why Swiss movement spring-wound watches sell for $1,000+ while a quartz electronic clock sells for $5, keeps more accurate time, and requires no maintenance... It's just not as sexy.
This is definitely a product for controller snobs, so it's totally appropriate here! Most people don't seem to be too fussy about controllers, but it's the only tactile part of playing games, your only physical connection to it. I'm surprised more people aren't as fussy about it TBH.
Your PS5 setup won't be truly complete without VR2 though.....and the other new controllers....
@NEStalgia great points around Esports and edge along with Inzone is Sony’s attempt there at that market. Having replacement sticks is a huge draw. But yes i agree 2 back buttons vs 4 could spell some doom, time will tell with that. I had my eye on a Scuf Xbox controller, but to many bad customer service reviews scared me off. Otherwise i really like the setup Scuf has. My outdoor hobbies are Fishing and hunting, i know not many one here are probably into that, but it’s the first example that came to me for me, so try and go along with it. There are 1000’s of fishing rods and 1000’s of shotguns and rifles. But each brand make a slight custom to the reel seat and that affects how the reel sits on the rods and affects your grip, sensitivity and hook sets. Guns are the same they make the stocks and triggers and safeties etc etc different and it all adds up to the experience with the tool and before i make my point yes i am OCD about my Rod and reels and guns, i prefer high end for those as well. But for video games it’s the controller that connects me to my experience. As close as the xbox controller is at being great at all genres, i find myself liking the Dual sense now for some games. Hard to believe i am 50/50 now where to buy and play Diablo 4. But point is the controller is and has been for decades for me the most important piece of the new generation of hardware. The Edge is the next step for Sony and i think it’s fair to say minus the obvious misses, they have done a great job. As for PSVR2, i am on the fence there as well. My wife has META 2 and i mess with it from time to time, i would much prefer PSVR over META. If they brought out Time Crisis and house of the dead i would buy it HAHA. But overall the Edge has me more of a PS5 fan than before it and that is Sony’s job there. To include and bring in all gamer types. In year 2 i already like my PS5 more than 7 years of PS4 and PS4 PRO. Series X at the moment is my main, but i will chat with you on Pure Xbox as to what annoys me there and needs lots of work in 2023. One hint Ui, those adds and clutter are finally on my nerves. Can’t not see them anymore. Can’t wait to get my edge and think i will get RE4 and SF6 now on PS5, thats a big deal for me, seeing as i haven’t bought a 3rd party game on PS since early PS3 days. Diablo 4? Where do i buy that will depend on how much i prefer the edge, and that in itself is saying something as the Diablo franchise is a cornerstone of my collection. Diablo is a top 5 franchise all time for me. I bought Diablo 3 for Mac and Xbox at launches. So to say Sony is close to it’s A game as it been in a while would be a understatement. PS4 was my God of War and Last of Us console.
@Green-Bandit I think it's a big shame that more people don't really think more about their controller and put more importance on the tactile experience. For the mfr's part, they want to push that, otherwise we wouldn't have the HD Rumble/Sense haptics, adaptive triggers etc, but by and large gamers just don't seem to be all that interested in the tactile experience, or put much importance on it. And that's a shame because that's the very reason we're stuck with needing to pay $200 to get a slightly improved version of a basic controller. The market for it is just so small, because so few care, that it's just an expensive demand to cater to, and most of the market for it is "professional" players, playing as a business, that will pay virtually anything as a business expense. If it were popular and a lot of people really put a lot of thought into the tactile experience, Edge would be a $100 controller at best, and there would be lot more competition out there for varied input peripherals. Look at PC mice where there's a ton of competitors and while the prices are high, they don't approach the eye watering prices of "pro" controllers for consoles. Because more PC gamers think about their input peripherals more personally and there's a ton of competition.
But I agree about the importance of controller. The existence of Elite V1 is one of the very reasons that I bought back into Xbox with the 1X when I was PS+Ninty only last gen. I really wanted in on that controller, and nobody was making a PS controller that compared (I considered the Scufs that Layden infamously pimped at his last E3, and it just was a non-starter.) Now i'm kind of following discipline to manage my digital ecosystems and making sure to stick to XB for digital third parties where possible, and sticking to exclusives on PS unless it's something much cheaper, but yeah, now that there's Edge, it absolutely improves my general impression of approaching a title on PS.
For me it's a bit of a different thing on fighting games. I, obviously, care about input methods very much and....no gamepad controller will ever do it for me on fighting games....I have my big arcade stick for that! Currently I have the big Hori stick for Switch and the X1 version of the Razer stick, and a PS4 adapter for it, so the peripheral BC just makes life easier getting all the FG I can natively on XB. I THINK the adapter will also work on PS5, not sure, but life is just easier that way. I can't play FG on anything but full size stick. I learned in the arcade....can't break that habit!
@cjay_001 it’s definitely for me since i play fps & fighters and almost exclusively multiplayer games . it’s overpriced , i don’t get the cheerleading for the price of a controller
& this is coming from somebody on their fourth dualsense because of the garbage stick drift
@NEStalgia i played a lot of fighting games in the arcade and to master them you need a stick, for me i will start casual on SF6 on controller and if i love it, then i will buy a stick. Here’s a thought thats been in my mind when they first showed the edge and i forgot to share with you. What if since the whole part comes out, if they made different inputs that could turn your Edge into a different control scheme? Not sure what that would entail on the technical side of it. But they could get fancy with it and charge for the different parts to modify the controller. I agree with the mouse and keyboard comment. PC gamers care down to the little inch of the full experience more than console players. Console players are more plug and play and not as attention to detail driven. If i threw the money at the gaming PC i would want to own, i would be super involved in the mouse and keyboard and every last detail of it i could be. If Edge was even $150 i think it would have a slightly more interested following. $200 is just a hard sale for the average gamer that thinks these pro style controllers only work for FPS games. Not seeing how much they can customize the experience for any genre of game. Honestly my Edge won’t even play much FPS games as i will use the Xbox Controller for those. Funny how me and you used to comment on here about how much dead zone there was on PS sticks and now that they have the feature to tweak it i am reading lots of people talk about that. PS controllers were so hard to be good on for FPS for me that i quit using them completely. However I am so out of touch on playing with mouse and keyboard, i would get it handed to me for the first few weeks. The Last of us multiplayer game will be the first PS shooter I’ve played in years, if it even is a shooter since we know nothing about it. But Edge for that game i am sure will be a huge win for me.
@Green-Bandit FYI got the battery low warning today. It was a long session but I've never got that on ds5 except binging stray all day at thanksgiving. So it's definitely a limited battery and that's for a PS4 game.
Horizon is such a good test for it though. IMO that game IS an fps. Technically third person but nearly first person when aiming and every bit as frantic. Moreso because you're not aiming while dodge rolling in fps. And you can feel the killzone shadowfall heritage in the combat imo.
I do suspect they may have alternative stick modules, but since only the stick comes out, I'm not sure there's much the can add really.
@nomither6 The Scuf custom controller for PS5 STARTS at $200 USD before some of the options, like adjustable trigger travel that comes already installed on the Edge. They aren't trying to upsell for the sake of controller sales, that's literally what the market is.
Although that deadzone adjustment better get rolled out to all controllers because that would solve a lot of drifting issues.
@NEStalgia yeah there is no way around it, the battery life stinks. At least sony is consistent with bad battery life, they don’t care what the cost of the controller is, you ain’t getting much haha.
My only concern is i just don’t love the stick placement, it hurts my hands after a while. I will play GOWR for an hour or two and my left hand is stiff. I can play on the series X controller for 4X that and barely feel anything. Think the DS should have been a hair smaller in the paddle area. I’ve joke on here before and said if the Edge had the option for off set sticks i would pay $300, will you pick up the rumored Horizon zero Dawn for PS5? Seems to me the PS4 Pro version that runs on PS5 is good enough.
@Green-Bandit heck id be happy with an official battery bank cable lock for the back. The existing lock is huge enough anyway, why not? 😂
I second the eventual hand strain....I do notice that still with the edge, though the session is overall much more comfortable, and not having to click the sticks absolutely helps. That's awkward on my wrist with the parallel stick layout. I do really like it, but it's still number 2.
I'm so hoping there's no hzd "remake", that would be absurdly wasting guerillas time. The game looks phenomenal on PS5 and absolutely does not need a "remake". Unlike the tlou remake fans, even though hzd is my favorite of modern Sony , the game is huge and I'm absolutely not replaying the whole thing just for slightly shinier shinnies. I have hfw if I want same gameplay with shinier shinnies. If it's true, it mostly tells me Sony is not committed to BC and intends to cut loose PS4 games next gen and intends to be like Nintendo, padding their library by reselling the same games every gen, and would reinforce that I'd never buy a non exclusive game on ps even if I have to wait a year or two to buy it elsewhere.
@NEStalgia Hand strain is still real for me as i mentioned. It’s an odd thing to drop $200 on, knowing my hands hurt using that layout. Yeah i think if Sony does start to bring over the PS4 games to PS5 it does show they want the Nintendo effect and thats sell you the same game with slight improvements over and over and it tells me creativity they are out of idea’s internally with the studios. Which isn’t an insult, it happens to all artist, actors and game creators, call it a writers block if you will. Sony has pressure to live up to its AAA success and if a multimillion dollar project fails for Sony they don’t have that write it off money, like say a Microsoft. A few misses will hurt their bottom line quickly. Nintendo can take a few more risks as their development cost isn’t a PS or Xbox level. I just played 2 hours of xbox before writing this message and my hands hurt 0%, about to play some GOWR and see if i can say the same. The game is awesome, if i could play it on a Series X controller i would be in love with it. I suppose it will come to PC one day, if i ever decide to pony up and build one.
@nomither6
Do you think the same for people who spend similar amounts of money on mice/keyboards/headsets for their PC's?
@Chessboxer mice and keyboards are used for more than just playing video games & works with virtually any computer & can be used on consoles. as for headsets, they have multiple uses too, a controller is just a controller. the dualsense edge is nothing more than a fix for garbage analogs with a worse battery, the dualsense does almost what the edge does with longer battery life. if they fix the stick drift in the standard controllers, then there's no need for an ''edge''. the dualsense is a perfect controller, ruined by weak sticks
so yea, the $200 for it is still stupid.
Really appreciate the stiffer harder to accidentally hit track pad. Not so sure about options. It's raised higher and it's harder to press. Sitte better for shooters but a little annoying for games that heavily use it for inventory and options.
@Green-Bandit The hand strain is partly from the layout but there's a bigger factor, the pretty high tension set on the sticks for Sony. X360 had high tension, x1 had lower tension, and xsxs has very low tension. The elite 2 has adjustable tension between all 3 where light is the default and max is similar to Sony. Personally I find the force of moving those sucks under high resistance is the most straining part and that is one big miss on the Edge, the lack of adjustable tension the elite 2 has. For $20 sick modules this should be a given.... But they didn't bother. If they ever sell light tension sticks I'll flip them the double finger for charging $40 for that but I'll preorder...
I don't think they're out of ideas. I think business has constrained them to make only box office blowout games, or else. We saw what happened to Japan studio and bend when they didn't make it an instant blockbuster. And they're focusing on mixed media brand franchises now so they'll milk brands to infinity from now on rather than taking risks. I'm sure Horizon Unnamed Sequel, Ghost of Harajuku and spiderman 14 will be just dandy.... Unless they just make socom infinite to coincide with the movie starting the rock... Probably that....
At least with gow you only hold up on the left stick, it never needs to go backwards or sideways 🤣. I'm definitely loving the edge for the intense hzd combat though. The stick tension will sucks, but the paddles, grips, customization (precise curve on right stick), took down a storm bird and trying to hit the canisters as it flies around is a pita and the edge really is a treat. On overpriced $200 treat with a bad battery, but it is that it is...
@NEStalgia yeah heck even Twisted Metal is only getting a game cause it has a series coming. I mean it’s smart business for Sony to do this with some games, but the do need to remember they need to make games that gamers want and take a few risks. Granted Sly Cooper isn’t going to sell 11-20 million copies, but the PS fan base wants it and would still buy it up and make back dev cost. Yeah i too would have liked to seen tension adjustment with the Edge, seems like a miss for a pro controller, Elite 3 better keep that feature. I also hope Elite 3 has software that you can download controller pre sets. You can see what your favorite pro over watch player uses and download the whole pre set right into the console and load it into the controller. Cause at this point Elite 3 will have to think about little things and the hardware itself will be largely the same. Seems like you are starting to like the Edge and thats good to hear, makes me feel better about it since we largely feel the same way about the stock DS.
@Green-Bandit Yeah that's the thing with this leadership, they don't care about the core fans, the core fan isn't where the big money is. They seem more that willing to jettison the core fan in exchange for this big big blue ocean of mixed media brand property and mass market media. Much like Nintendo did with Wii. Of course that backfired, but it made big money enough that it didnt matter that's where matrick tried to go, and that's where Jim is going. Who cares if it sacrifices the future, it makes next quarter look good and Jim gets his bonus .
Yeah pro controllers, Sony's big misses side, really don't have much evolution left, it's all in the details at this point. Though if the changes are mostly software there's no need for a 3 at all, they could deliver that in the os. I think using Hall sensors is the main thing they can do hardware wise. It's outrageous Sony didn't, and they didn't have selectable tension.
But yeah, I'm loving using it. I know it was overpriced going in, so while I don't like that I'm not holding it against it. But if I ignore price and only look at how much I like using it vs stock, it's definitely a good purchase.
I still have zero interest in owning one of these, the standard controller is more than enough.
@NEStalgia i think Xbox has to go to Hall Sensors, it just makes sense, then again they always make more sense and yet none of the big 3 use them. I think Elite 3 has to happen, as the shell of the Elite 2 is built off Xbox One, granted all the features i would like to see center around software enhancements and that could work with any of the Elite controllers. But i think it’s time for the Elite 3 in mid to late 2023. I sold my Black Sony plates and Black Sense for $100 bucks, so i am back to stock white and got the Edge for $100 out of pocket, so i am more than happy, the white plates will look great with the Edge, and i wanted to off those extra plates for when Sony slims this model down and makes it look better. It should come in a few days it says, so i will give my impressions. As for Sony creating more blockbusters than taking risks, i think there is Pro’s and Con’s to that, Con’s us hardcore gamers get the shaft. Pro’s sony is able to make sure PlayStation carry’s the Sony brand and keeps the business side floating upwards. Spin those into shows, movies and Series and thats extra money coming in that no other Sony division has at the moment. Game development is expensive and i understand this isn’t the PS2 day’s however i found the PS4 to be BORING, when it came to genre selection. I called my PS4 Pro the Ubisoft machine. It played Sony’s take on Ubisoft coding with better characters and upscale in polish. I am not one to play all the RPG’s, racers , sims, sports and strategy games. But dang, Sony was like COD got us covered so we ain’t making nothing that can’t spin a movie. That annoyed me and while Xbox struggles at times to get out games, I appreciate them for diversifying genre’s. Sony know’s the industry is shifting and they know hardware wise even tho 100 million consoles sold seems like a lot, they know thats not 100 million different people and they know that’s a fraction of the bigger market, at some point they have to want more than the PS console crowd, Xbox has shown that active users in a ecosystem is pretty lucrative, and thats with software that pales in comparison to Sony’s at the moment. The industry is healthy, gaming is here forever in some shape or form, but if it really cost to much to make a Sly Cooper game and not make the money back 4X, then it’s time to rethink the strategy. This is where MS is ahead, cause they will continue to build development tools and have the cash on hand to take risks.
One other juicy detail is even the "stock" stick cap appears to have the gripper rubber than the stock DS5. I didn't notice that at first, but I was comparing the two and realized all the stick caps have the classic grippy rubber, not the smooth, slippery hard rubber then DS5 comes with. I'm not sure if that's an Edge difference, or if all new production DS5 changed the rubber (that happened last gen with DS4), so I'm not sure if that's an enhancement on the Edge, or if that's just all Sony sticks now.
The R1/L1 bumpers are also more tactile and snappy for sure, vs the stock mushy buttons.
I do hope they sell replacement dome stick caps eventually, though, as right now when they wear, you have to replace them with stock caps that come with the stick modules. The replacement stick box says something about "Contents: 1 stick module (standard cap)" so it implies they may sell modules with alternate caps later. I hope beyond hope they sell alternate stick modules with different tensions as well, as I really really want low tension sticks, like I have on XB.
@Green-Bandit I mean Sega did in '98 what Microsonytendon't. Even what Razer/Scufdon't. Obviously these companies see money in the controllers dying and being replaced in most cases, or replacement sticks being sold in Edge's case. It's sad. The correct stick tech was IN USE on a production console in the late 90's (Dreamcast). Sega was soooo ahead of the curve. How did we go back in time? Money. Nintendo has a patent on optical thumbsticks. Are they making them? No. Might they make it on Switch 2? Maybe. But my bet is they hold the patent to prevent anyone from making it so they can keep selling $80 replacement Joycon forever and ever.
I don't think Elite 3 really "has" to happen, unless it's to introduce Hall sticks. Or modular sticks. The hardware of the 2 really has everything and is the benchmark, stick durability aside. The only other thing a 3 would be needed for is if they reintroduced all new controllers to add gyros. The Elite 2 being based on the X1 is only partly true. In fact the Elite 2 was a modification of the X1 into a new, better form, and then the XSXS controller was based on the Elite 2 in a cheaper form. So since it's the origin of the XSXS controller it's more like the XSXS than the 1. The only real difference is that Elite 2 is still superior, but also lacks the "share" button (can we please be done with share buttons?!?!)
That's just it with the mainstreaming of gaming is our market gets shafted to cater to "their" market. Which should be nothing but bad for us, as it's not our market anymore. Hard to figure out what sub-market we get shoehorned into. I agree PS4 bored me to tears, though I love Ubisoft format games. More online shooters does nothing for me, odds are I won't touch any online game they make, so I'm not quite sure what direction I really want them to head. Made-for-TV games isn't for me. But neither is the online/competitive/GaaS realm either. TBH, MS's focus on RPGs + Smaller brilliant indie-likes with higher budget is pretty much the ideal mix for me. Sony USED to be like that in the PS2/PS3/PSP/Vita days. It's what I came for.
@NEStalgia nice to know the L1 and R1 feel better, that alone makes me even more excited to get my hands on it. this is the best Sony controller maybe ever. Can’t wait to see what they do to extend it, which different caps and what not. I like shooters, but i don’t want that to be all a console has, PS4 just had none for me, i like Ubisoft game styles to but i think PS4 had a few to many and not enough variety. I got a little bored with it in years 3-6. Happy to see the PS5 will at least try some other stuff, but agree i don’t want it to be all online service games, just so they can take a shot at the next Fortnite cash cow. Bring back Resistance, Sly, make a strategy game or try something that isn’t a movie like game. I want variety and Xbox right now has more variety and that is kind of a good thing. Tho Xbox is in need of a good single player story driven game with high production like a Sony game. That would do the console well. Sega was a forward thinking company and you would think in this industry that would be looked at as a good thing, but it’s normally not. Lots of what Sega did and provided could have been more accepted. I really enjoyed and supported my Dreamcast. All the FPS games put a huge strain on the thumb sticks, Hall is the way to go, but as you said, money. They are taking a loss on the hardware and want to sell as many controllers as they can.
@Green-Bandit Yeah, to recap the subtle differences (not the core features of the Edge, but the subtle things that nobody talks about in reviews:)
It's kind of funny but Sony seemed to put a little more attention to detail on what "pro" gamers want in the design than what they actually market. I feel like if MS made this controller there'd be a trailer showing faux schematics showing activation pressure numbers and the like to highlight those differences.
There's no question it's the best Sony controller ever, to me. Obviously the added features make that an absolute, but even if we ignore the paddles, software features, etc, and just focus on the raw, plain controller it's easily the best since the original PS controller (Before it had analogs and got the DualShock name and was just an SNES pad with handles.) Should it cost $200 or anywhere near $200 to get what's on offer here? Absolutely, unequivocally not. And I'm sure in a year or two at normal retail you can get it for $175 or so regularly, but that's still far, far too much. For $200 the thing should be made of magnesium-alloy like an SLR camera, or Surface kickstand.
Honestly MOST of the features of the Edge should just be part of the standard controller. Rear paddles, especially just two should have been standard a generation ago on all controllers INSTEAD of clicky sticks. The nubs on the triggers, the rubber on the rear grip, the full length grips instead of the cut-off angles, the better buttons and trackpad. All that stuff should be stock. The trigger locks, customization software, replaceable sticks, etc should be the stuff that's an upgrade, but, if the stock controller had Hall sticks that wouldn't even be necessary.
Personally I'd like to see unused gimmicks that eat up production cost on DS5 - the track pad, the speaker, the illumination, the silly adaptive trigger motors and gearing that add little to nothing to most games and are detrimental to some, remove all that and just improve the grips, buttons, comfort and stick durability with that money. They won't, but the best parts of Edge are things that should be standard. I would not mind "force feedback sticks" instead of the adaptive triggers though. Sticks that actually move and resist force would be game changing, triggers that resist you really are not. If you've ever played a force feedback PC flight stick or racing wheel, it's a whole other dimension.....the active sticks seem like a weird half-way measure.
I could go for that variety! You're right they used to have it. And they used to have those Japan Studio games that really fit into no genre and invented their own. Ico, SotC, TLG, Gravity Rush, Echochrome, etc ,etc....they were such unique games and the main reason I loved PS....and they've abandoned it all to go for more Naughty Dog movie-you-play-while-you-wait-for-the-movie-version-you-don't-play.
Sega was so ahead in so many areas.... I don't know that the industry doesn't favor their forward thinking so much as they just made a lot of deadly mistakes without the budget to correct for them. Arrogance in Japan, impatience in the US, so many big mistakes that just put them in a tailspin they couldn't get out of. Had they not done that, and had they not been at a mfr cost disadvantage to Sony, I think they'd probably be the dominant player PS is today. The DC was an amazing machine sabotaged by the messy Saturn and the directionless 32X and Sega CD. But DC had it all. Online before online, Durable sticks before....well...ANYONE even in 2023. The VMU had potential. Even had MS backing it. It actually sold ok, too, it's main problem other than the piracy issue was just that they were so deep in the hole even a big success couldn't really turn them around, and Sony undercutting them at a loss nailed the coffin.
Fast forward to 2023, and we have our $200 Hall-less Sony controller with paid online and what's the big news of the week? LaD Ishin and upcoming Granblue....from Sega....while Sony's Squaresoft exclusive circles the drain.
So that was a amazing review of what isn’t said online and i want to add, i am going to sell or trade in my launch white DS and buy a new DS to see if some of these are production across the board or exclusive to the Edge. I am curious enough to find out and a new controller with warranty won’t hurt the collection. Most of what you found i agree should be standard, but if it’s not then they put even more thought into this, but YES YES and YES it is overpriced. $150 max for this and it would have sold to a few more people that wanted to try a Pro style controller. Especially cause at $150 it could go on sale closer to $120 and now many more people snag one. I am really excited to get my hands on it. Think i will really like it from what you have said is different. Sega , i think the Dreamcast turned out to be a love letter goodbye to Sega fans, the missteps they had with other consoles, and losing the faith of the mainstream, Dreamcast was a good send off console for fans of Sega, i liked Sega and got the Dreamcast at launch, day one, played the heck out of it. But Sega was just another console maker for me, i always own them all, regardless of how much i like them as a company or the games they produce. So Sega wasn’t a have to have as much as it was something i knew I’d buy if that makes sense. But you are right with what you said about it and i wish they were still part of the industry today. People that whine today about MS having money and using it to get ahead in the industry forget the undercutting and buying of studios that sony did to smaller companies in the PS1-PS2 days. Throw in the 360 scared Sony to death and they really started to protect the PS brand. Which is smart and fair play. It’s just i dislike the whining of what MS is doing now that they want to compete and protect Xbox. Of course MS will use it’s strength and thats cash and infrastructure, cloud, services etc etc. really happy with what i am hearing from you on the Edge tho. Mine should be here in less than a week. You caught me off guard saying the touchpad is smaller, not sure I heard anyone else say that, but i have heard some say it feels slightly smaller in hand and just better overall, so that should take away some of my issues with it alone.
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