@andreoni79 They're on 1.02 at the moment and I'm playing on an old base model PS4 with no problems in the early game.
I'm only just into chapter 2 but first impressions are pretty good. I'm not so sure about this whole having to eat etc in order to maintain stats as it feels like it's going to be a chore more than anything already. Being forced to walk at a snails pace around camp is also quite frustrating.
I've spent most of my time in chapter two just tracking and hunting animals so far though.
@andreoni79 I only managed to play about an hour last night, because we decided to finish watching The Haunting At Hill House first. Nothing against that show, but that final episode felt like a long, long hour. no glitches to report. Played the first two missions and then wandered about in the snow like an idiot for a bit.
Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.
One of my bigger concerns going in unfortunately holds up. The game clock is way too fast for what the game's trying to do. You can walk into the general store in the morning, have a browse through the excellently in depth catalogue and by the time you're finished it's night time, or maybe even the next morning. That's just ridiculous and completely ruins some of the immersion for me. I really don't understand why they haven't fixed that or at least added an option to change it depending on your play style.
Look, I love the game and there's no doubt I'm gonna spend dozens of hours in it so it can't be that bad but there's a ton of annoyances that I feel could've been avoided.
I think it's all the more frustrating because this game is so close to being as perfect as I'd hoped, there's just a lot of little things holding it back.
@hulkie either it doesn't really matter. Both are good fun to look through imo. It's really cool that you can look through the catalogue online as well and buy in-game items from it while you're away from the game
@LN78 Most of the issues with 'washed out' HDR comes from the PS4 Pro settings and in particular, the RGB setting. Washed Out is a result of a miss-match between Full and Limited RGB. A lot of TV's only offer limited RGB as TV, Blurays etc are all using Limited but Games and PC's can offer Full RGB as do monitors and some TV's. The Pro too can output in both limited and full but there seems to be some issue with having this set to 'Auto' on the Pro. It seems to restrict the games to Limited but tell the TV its sending 'Full'. The way around this is to set this manually on both the TV and Pro (if you can). It doesn't really matter if you set it to full or limited but its most important to set both to the same value. Uf you set one to full and the other to limited, you will get washed out colours and/or crushed blacks. It maybe better to set it to limited if you also use your Pro to watch HDR on Netflix or whatever other App offers HDR TV/Movie content.
Most games these days have some form of HDR setting built in. One of the best is GTSport (according to DF as I don't own the game myself) but that game was also built to work with TV's that could be 10000nits (the target for HDR). I believe RDR2 has quite a basic slider option for setting the level. Its quite important for games to have an option to adjust settings as the performance of HDR TV's vary a LOT. There are some HDR TV's that only offer around 300nits and don't even offer the Wider Colour Gamut and others that offer 2000nits and 100% DCI-P3 colour gamut (wider than REC709 - the standard for SDR but not as wide as REC2020 which is the target for the future).
These sliders tend to be a lot like we have seen in games before for setting brightness and dark levels - a white logo on a white background or black logo on black background and these logo's go 'grey' if not set quite right. The idea is that you adjust the slider until the logo is barely visible which, if you are in a HDR setting on your TV, generally means your TV is set at the brightest it can be.
To access the settings on RDR2, go to the Main menu and then select Settings > Display > HDR Calibration. Adjust according to taste - They recommend 300 for OLEDs and 100 for LED's but OLEDs are pretty consistently between 600-750nits and LED's can vary from 300-2000nits so if you own an LED, you may need to adjust this depending on the 'quality' of your LED TV.
Anyway, hope that helps...
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@LN78 the colours seen to pop a bit more with it off but you lose a lot more detail in the highs and lows obviously. I dunno, I quite like it on, you could call it washed out I guess but it seems more natural and realistic to me.
I haven’t started the game yet, as I’m still finishing up some other games first, but I’m curious — has anyone who’s playing this also played Kingdom Come Deliverance? I have not played it either but have been eyeing it for a deep sale price. It apparently is a large open story drive RPG with deep simulation mechanics also. Obviously it’s set in Medieval Europe and not the 1900s American Frontier, but I was curious how the two compare strictly gameplay-wise.
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@beemo I see. Thanks, I was curious because of the life sim elements (bathing, shaving, eating, etc) and how with KCD it was said that it was impressive but quite tedious. I’m under the impression that the sim mechanics are a little less critical in RDR2. I’m not sure how I feel about them yet, but we’ll see. Some people enjoy the immersion, some people feel it monotonous and detracting from getting to the ‘fun’ parts of the game. Another recent example is Shenmue. Also a game I’ve held off getting due to people say it’s ‘boring’ if they don’t enjoy the intricate world building and simulation.
If I was to guess, RDR2 seems to strike a pretty good balance between immersive simulation and not getting lost in the tedium.
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@Th3solution I think I might fall into that group of people. As much as I liked the first RDR, a lot of the side activities felt like a chore to do. I was the same with the stuff in Skyrim too. There is finding a right balance of being realistic v being fun to play. And I see all the things you can do in RDR 2 and get a bit intimidated by it all.
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@Kidfried Great thoughts! I've still been on the fence about getting it, but what you described actually sounds very fun to me. I'm glad the camplife holds up, since it's one of the main reasons I was interested. I haven't seen much talk on the main story overall though. How is your experience with the main story so far? Does it add to the camplife or is it more a distraction from it? I appreciate any thoughts, as the quality of the main story is still one of the things that's keeping me on the fence for now.
Also, could I play this without playing the first one? I'm assuming you can since it's a prequel. I was actually thinking I'd try the franchise in chronological order for fun, but obviously I don't wanna ruin my experience with RDR2 by doing so.
I'm reading elsewhere of a poor wanted system, where main missions can be screwed, for example, just by an animal crossing the road: if your horse accidentally kill it, then you get bullets on the back by officers even in a deserted road... I bet it's a 0,01% chance, but how good/bad really is the wanted system?
@andreoni79 This has happened to my wife several times. We're doing a sort-of joint playthrough, by that I mean she occasionally jumps in and plays for a bit. Whenever she takes over, the sort of event you've described happens. I don't think I've ever seen anyone cause so much unintentional chaos in a videogame.
She's an experienced gamer, she's no noob (as the kids say) but she tends to play games at a quicker pace than me. I think the game perhaps rewards slower play. For example, a situation escalated after she accidentally trampled someone's dog with her horse (don't ask). Whereas with me, I'd have properly hitched my horse at the hitching post on the edge of the settlement, like a good, responsible cowboy.
It's one of the most immersive games ever and I love it for that, but it could be too immersive for some. It makes for some hilarious moments when she's playing, although I imagine it wouldn't be quite as hilarious mid-mission.
Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.
@Gremio108 Thanks! I'm not scared by slow paced games (I slowly crawled through all the air conducts and under all the desks in the superb Alien Isolation) but I fear at the moment the wanted level is held hostage by all the many parameters that rules the RDR2 world. I'll wait for some other patches because I don't want minor issues to ruin the magic...
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