@zupertramp Hmmm... my guess — it’s the fact that “deaths” are represented by a crucifix? Perhaps it’s a little presumptive and insensitive for all the non-Christians who’ve succumbed to COVID.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
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@Th3solution@zupertramp Oh wow, being the incredibly lapsed Catholic I am, I did not pick up on that. Crosses are always used for deaths because I assume it’s supposed to look like a Christian grave. Although it’s only a crucifix if the big man’s on there. The Vatican’s pretty cool though, other than the preserved bodies in glass caskets. Which I asked my RE teacher about back in high school and he had no idea what I was talking about. I’m pretty certain I didn’t make it up.
@nessisonett Ah, yeah, so it is - ‘crucifix’ does mean the cross has the image of Jesus on it; that’s simply a cross. Which is confusing because the [formerly blue, now monotone] X button on the PS controller is called the ‘cross’ button, so I wasn’t sure if other cultures called the Christian cross a ‘cross.’
@zupertramp I agree the image of the cross for a death marker is a bit narrow-minded in the multicultural and diverse world we live in, although I’m trying to think of another icon they could have used. Other images representing death would probably come across as even more insensitive. 🤔 Perhaps some flowers or the image of a setting sun...
I also find it weird how they have ‘net active cases’ as a minus (-) sign, and it took me a second glance to figure that out. And the ICU is represented by the image of a doctor, which is also a little strange given doctors are involved at all levels of the disease.
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As far as vaccines and COVID activity, it is encouraging how much more accessible the vaccines have become and that things really have calmed down. I suspect there will be a booster shot within the next year which will have to cover the new variants though. I wonder if we’ll ever have live as “normal” again. I’m willing to wear masks in public for the rest of my life, but I kind of want to have big sporting events and large public gatherings (concerts, conferences, parties) again at some point.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@Th3solution I think the need for a mask will lessen the more people get vaccinated. I certainly hope so and will be glad to see the back of them. Last I heard was 60% of the people have recieved their jab over here.
In the UK a series of test events have been planned, allowing a few thousand people into stadiums for certain sporting events. I can't see myself going to anywhere like a pub or anything like that for a good while yet. I just don't trust the people that operate these places or the general public to adhere to whatever rules are in place.
@Kidfried eh, if it’s a requirement I’ll do it but I don’t want to wear a hat every time I go out the door either so if it’s not compulsory I won’t do it unless I feel like it.
Yeah even in a country-bumpkin place like this we have synagogues and mosques. I only know Ramadan just started because my kids go to school with people who observe it. And regarding Covid deaths, presumably not every death has been a Christian one so to default to a cross feels disrespectful, even moreso for those of the Jewish faith imo. Not to mention heathen atheists. And on a government publication no less. Sigh.
But what to put in it's place I'm not sure. Maybe don't put any icons as they are all a little bit nonsensical anyway like @Th3solution pointed out. Maybe just some blue stars or round bullet points. You could even just put the text in circles to highlight it and separate it. Graphic design isn't my forte but I'm thinking there's hundreds of ways to do it.
I pretty much spit up my cereal in laughter at the grim reaper. Just wow. Good call @kyleforrester87 I mean, it's at least equally insensitive to everyone and frankly, drives the point home even more. No sugar coating. I like it lol.
@JohnnyShoulder 60%!? That's really impressive. I'd feel much safer venturing out if we were just somewhere near there. I'm an unapologetic introvert who loves nothing more than to be at home but even I'd really appreciate a break from all... this.
"One of the unloveliest and least enlightening aspects of contemporary discourse is the tendency to presume that whatever one disagrees with must be very simple—not only simple, but also simply wrong." - Elizabeth Bruenig
@Rondoooo9 Herd immunity is a bit pointless now though. We have several vaccines, might as well minimise deaths and maximise vaccine outreach instead of purposefully throwing vulnerable people under the bus in efforts to reach herd immunity.
Don't see the issue with using a cross, and I'm probably the least religious person you can find. I'm not offended
@nessisonett Still doubt most of those bodies in the Vatican/Rome are even real. I've seen them up close, and they look like terrible mannequin dolls from a century ago.
@Octane idk, imagine having a deeply held belief in Judaism and your loved one dies and they are represented with a cross. I'm not at all religious either but I also understand some people are, and therein lies the rub. Here's just one of the many articles that come up when you do a search on Jews and the Christian cross.
"One of the unloveliest and least enlightening aspects of contemporary discourse is the tendency to presume that whatever one disagrees with must be very simple—not only simple, but also simply wrong." - Elizabeth Bruenig
Oh and totally unrelated but absolutely more on topic, this is an interesting article about our, I guess, misplaced obsession with keeping surfaces clean.
"One of the unloveliest and least enlightening aspects of contemporary discourse is the tendency to presume that whatever one disagrees with must be very simple—not only simple, but also simply wrong." - Elizabeth Bruenig
@nessisonett seems more pointless to get a vaccine when you havent been sick in years and to force that upon people.
Whats up with Johnson and Johnson? Pulled the vaccine back after 6, SIX, not 6,000 or 600, S-I-X people reported having blood clots. Something else is going on. Was it rushed too quickly? Sure doesn't give one much trust to go put a mystery formula in their body. When people were already skeptical, they just made it much worse. What an effin mess. "GD wear a mask a tho". We will break every suggestion the cdc makes unless its the blessed masks lol. Soda? Nope lardass is still chugging. Smoking? Nope iron lung is still huffing. Masks, we will police each other over though. LOL!
Good luck putting the toothpaste back in the tube.
@Rondoooo9 The vaccine isn’t just to protect you though. Even if you personally don’t have much trouble with the virus, you could walk past a person with asthma on the street while you flaunt your maskless ‘freedom’ and essentially be responsible for them being in intensive care.
@Rondoooo9 As far as I know, J&J hasn't pulled their vaccine. (Some) States are probably doing it because although thousands of people safely get it people focus on the few with complications. At least that's the situation stateside. I admit to knowing nothing about what vaccines are available elsewhere.
Also this can't possibly be the first vaccine forced on you so not sure why this one is so much of an exception. In fact some of the compulsory vaccines you got when you were younger probably have helped you lead a life free of sickness.
Edit: I do admit to having some skepticism about this vaccine tbf. I just think the overall benefits outweigh the possible harms that probably only exist in my mind.
Edit 2: my bad, guess there's a recommended pause on the J&J vaccine from FDA and CDC.
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